You won’t want to miss Lord Christopher Monckton (Former advisor to UK Prime Minister Thatcher) on Glenn Beck – Today Friday, October 30th!
Monckton as many WUWT readers know, is a prominent skeptic and has been making presentations around the USA at college campuses, similar to what Al Gore does. Monckton recently criticized the Copenhagen Treaty and the potential for President Obama to sign it as possibly ceding US sovereignty to the UN on the issue.
Times below:
Monckton will be on Fox News Glenn Beck Show, with former UN Ambassador John Bolton, for the full hour. The topic will be all aspects of the Global Warming Scare and the push for a “new world order” to “deal” with it.
Expect fireworks!
FOX cable news Glenn Beck Show
Time: 5:00pm Eastern time zone
For viewers that don’t have Fox News, check this page afterwards and we’ll put up links to the recoreded video when it is available.
For now, this video of his recent presentation can be seen here
UPDATE:
Video of the interview is now available here
Eddie Murphy (15:27:43) : [dozens of links, all way off topic -SNIP]
That’s fine, I understand, I didn’t think you would post it. The truth that’s buried below the surface is… I wouldn’t want to get you shut down.
@ur momisugly Ron de Haan (15:32:00) :
I’d love to see this Treaty or Agreement, or whatever they want to call it, go up in CO2 laden smoke. Ditto the Cap &Tax bill. But at best, as Bolton said; “they will simply kick the can down the road” , pat each other on the back and declare success. And we’ll have to wrestle with this pig again later on. Trouble with wrestling pigs is you both get filthy dirty, but the pig likes it. As for Becks segment, consider who watches it. Not the oinkers that’s for sure. And even if they did, you ever try to change a pigs mind? Doesn’t work. Better to do him up as a Christmas ham.
Actually his demographic is much broader than most people think. Moderate democrats and libertarians/independents make up a significant fraction of his audience, and it is growing all the time. The term Main Stream Media is actually exactly backwards. His viewership is higher than all the other networks combined in the same time slot. He is the main stream show, not the old legacy networks.
You change public perception by inches not by miles, it a few moderate democrats, libertarians and independents (republicans almost universally discount AGW) take the arguments presented seriously and began to question the prevailing view, then they will over time, convince others in their peer group to take a second look at the facts. Over time that creep in perception will bleed across the majority of the population but it takes time, and the most effective advocates are people you already agree with on most other things. It gives them credibility you would never assign to some TV commentator, especially if he has been summarily dismissed by the local pundents as a whacko.
Larry
I don’t think (hope) that our country (U.S.) will commit to anything at Copenhagen, it’s just not Obama’s modus operandi to make realtime decisions. I agree with Bolton that he will just kick the can down the road. I am more fearful that the Cap and Trade bill will get passed here as it won’t take as many Senators to pass and those Senators “see” it as keeping American money in America. But in reality it would be a horrible first step in a track towards the global agreement that is going to be pushed at Copenhagen.
With the masses focused on the healthcare bill and the scraps being thrown to the moderate Republicans on the Climate Bill, it just might pass!
Dave…
Thanks for the comment… I love to make people laugh!!
Mike
Here is a Guardian article. They had someone standing by to post it immediately. That’s how much of a gift Monckton is to the opposition
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/oct/30/lord-monckton-glenn-beck-copenhagen?commentpage=1&commentposted=1
Even a rabid neocon like John Bolton apparently thinks Monckton is too extreme.
Let me make it clear. I believe everything he says, INCLUDING the world government stuff. However, it isn’t at all helpful to mention it.
American right wing politics is poison outside a small section of the USA population. My comment is there but I couldn’t defend Monckton in that arena. The climate stuff is irrelevant. What a missed opportunity, He is a brilliant speaker and educator.
Stephen Brown (13:35:48) :
Makes Moncktons mocking of Gores accent pale in comparison LOL
DaveE.
“Strictly in this context it should be just “Lord Monckton” or “Lord Monckton of Benchley” but if a first name is used, it goes before “Lord.” That form is appropriate for the son of a Viscount.”
Let’s just call him Chris.
(Incidentally, I have the impression that in the bad old days, lords and kings referred to themselves by their locale. In Shakespeare, the King of France just calls himself “France.” So maybe he’d have called himself “Benchley” back in the day.)
Regarding the question of whether treaties can over-rule the constitution; in my opinion the founders never intended that. If they had they would have included treaties in Article V as a means of amending the constitution. But they didn’t do that. Bear in mind though that many of the people in power today don’t give a rat’s petuti about the constitution and will interpret it to mean whatever they want. A case in point; Heller vs DC where 4 of the 9 Supreme Court justices could not correctly interpret the simple phrase “… the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
“And this coming from a Lord with the Plummiest accent I have ever come across.”
His is far from the plummiest accent I’ve heard. It’s pretty middle-of-the-road, for a “U” (Nancy Mitford’s term) speaker.
Lord Monckton challenges Al Gore to a debate.
See the video and sign the petition.
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/algoredebate.html
A collection of Monckton works, speeches, and debates that I’ve put together.
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/LordMonckton.html
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/monckton2.html
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/moncktonav.html
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/moncktontheater.html
http://www.hootervillegazette.com/moncktonletter.html
Monkton/Lindzen seem a little wrong to say that Longwave radiation has increased.
“Here we analyse the difference between the spectra of the outgoing longwave radiation of the Earth as measured by orbiting spacecraft in 1970 and 1997. We find differences in the spectra that point to long-term changes in atmospheric CH4, CO2 and O3 as well as CFC-11 and CFC-12. Our results provide direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth’s greenhouse effect that is consistent with concerns over radiative forcing of climate.”
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v410/n6826/abs/410355a0.html
Put simply the paper shows a significant decrease in the relevant LW radiation.
…….Mike Bryant (16:22:43) :
I’m not sure why, but the truth does sound so much better in an English accent:…….
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I’d be willing to listen to that in any accent or language, up to and including Swahili. He was telling the simple truth and it was quite obvious that they didn’t like it.
If Copenhagen fails and people start waking up to how much they’ve been deceived, Monckton can personally take a great deal of the credit. He is out there talking to anyone who will listen with the very latest science in a form anyone can understand. He makes it impossible to fudge the figures and be uninformed. Maybe its too late, but if we can dodge this bullet the climate itself may bring down the curtain on this nonsense.
Why doesn’t the U.S. have an “English” accent but the blokes in Australia do? Think about it and read about it. And then, on a side not, think about why our football championship gathers so much attention and your’s doesn’t.
Curiousgeorge (17:02:44) :
“As for Becks segment, consider who watches it. Not the oinkers that’s for sure. And even if they did, you ever try to change a pigs mind? Doesn’t work. Better to do him up as a Christmas ham”.
That’s a dangerous remark Curiousgeorge.
What if a situation occurs where the pigs take over power and decide to do you up as a Christmas ham?
History bears many such occasions and it even happened in “Animal Farm”.
Besides that, the taste of such a Christmas ham must be horrible.
I just watched the older debate between Lord Monckton with Rayner, a political climate scientist.
http://www.fcpp.org/mediamap.php/5
Lord Monckton wiped Rayner from his feet, but at the end of the debate, Rayner kept pushing for the precautionary principle approach.
As soon as these guys are in an isolated environment like any UN IPCC meeting, they will continue their own way.
The huge problem we are facing today is that most of the negotiators and politicians believe that the effects of AGW already have arrived and they have to act.
That is why it’s important they are stopped at the political level which is the US Senate for now.
Therefore sign the Instrument of Repudiation her:
http://www.webcommentary.com/signrep.php
4 billion (22:08:22) :
Monkton/Lindzen seem a little wrong to say that Longwave radiation has increased.
“Here we analyse the difference between the spectra of the outgoing longwave radiation of the Earth as measured by orbiting spacecraft in 1970 and 1997. We find differences in the spectra that point to long-term changes in atmospheric CH4, CO2 and O3 as well as CFC-11 and CFC-12. Our results provide direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth’s greenhouse effect that is consistent with concerns over radiative forcing of climate.”
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v410/n6826/abs/410355a0.html
Put simply the paper shows a significant decrease in the relevant LW radiation.
This thing is still behind the paywall at Nature and I didn’t think it justified spending 32 bucks to read it. I was able to find several papers of more recent vintage that covered the same ground. The abstracts had extravagant claims for having shown that AGW was proven by their work and they did mostly show the claimed differences in the specific GHG LW fluxes, but what seemed to receive much less ink was that just the variations in the LW flux from H2O was often 2-3 times the total of all the others put together, which would seem, at least to me, to make the claim that anthropogenic CO2 is the primary driver of the climate a little hard to justify.
4 billion (22:08:22) wrote: “…Monkton/Lindzen seem a little wrong to say that Longwave radiation has increased.
…Put simply the paper shows a significant decrease in the relevant LW radiation…”
The Lindzen paper says otherwise, maybe the science isn’t settled?
maybe the data is noisy and ambiguous?
maybe CO2 has no significant effect on climate?
“….Yep, roughly 40-45% of the colonists supported the revolution.
‘A companion to the American Revolution’
By Jack P. Greene, Jack Richon Pole
http://tinyurl.com/yca8m5a….”
I didn’t read the entire book at that link, but how the f would they know?
it’s not as if they had representative sampling opinion polls in those days.
There wasn’t even much of a postal service.
Dave Wendt (02:48:55)
“but what seemed to receive much less ink was that just the variations in the LW flux from H2O was often 2-3 times the total of all the others put together, which would seem, at least to me, to make the claim that anthropogenic CO2 is the primary driver of the climate a little hard to justify.”
Decreasing LW flux in the H2O band shows that atmospheric water vapour has increased, contrary to what some say.
Atmospheric gases that create greenhouse effect,
* water vapor, which contributes 36–72%
* carbon dioxide, which contributes 9–26%
* methane, which contributes 4–9%
* ozone, which contributes 3–7%
People are proposing that it is the increase in CO2 has increased the GH effect, not that CO2 has become the primary driver.
@ur momisugly Ron de Haan (00:14:13) :
…………………That’s a dangerous remark Curiousgeorge.
What if a situation occurs where the pigs take over power and decide to do you up as a Christmas ham?”
Then that would also settle the matter wouldn’t it? As I’ve said many times before; “The most committed wins.”
We’ll see who is the chef and who is the entree before much longer I think.
will (03:24:50) :
The Lindzen paper says otherwise, maybe the science isn’t settled?
maybe the data is noisy and ambiguous?
The ERB Satelitte that Prof. Lindzen obtained Data from was later to shown to have faulty data due to not properly compensating for orbit degrading
http://eosweb.larc.nasa.gov/PRODOCS/erbe/quality_summaries/s10n_wfov/erbe_s10n_wfov_nf_sf_erbs_edition3.html#Cautions
Plse, just go back to infowars.com, Alex Jones is calling … (my perspective anyway, others YMMV)
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will (03:27:08) :
Proxies? Of course, maybe they switched a sign someplace, and the study is not inconsistent with 40-45% opposing the revolution, especially with the error bars.