Scientists seek to remove climate fear promoting editor and ‘trade him to New York Times or Washington Post’

An outpouring of skeptical scientists who are members of the American Chemical Society (ACS) are revolting against the group’s editor-in-chief — with some demanding he be removed — after an editorial appeared claiming “the science of anthropogenic climate change is becoming increasingly well established.”
The editorial claimed the “consensus” view was growing “increasingly difficult to challenge, despite the efforts of diehard climate-change deniers.” The editor now admits he is “startled” by the negative reaction from the group’s scientific members. The American Chemical Society bills itself as the “world’s largest scientific society.”
The June 22, 2009 editorial in Chemical and Engineering News by editor in chief Rudy Baum, is facing widespread blowback and condemnation from American Chemical Society member scientists. Baum concluded his editorial by stating that “deniers” are attempting to “derail meaningful efforts to respond to global climate change.”
Dozens of letters from ACS members were published on July 27, 2009 castigating Baum, with some scientists calling for his replacement as editor-in-chief.
The editorial was met with a swift, passionate and scientific rebuke from Baum’s colleagues. Virtually all of the letters published on July 27 in castigated Baum’s climate science views. Scientists rebuked Baum’s use of the word “deniers” because of the terms “association with Holocaust deniers.” In addition, the scientists called Baum’s editorial: “disgusting”; “a disgrace”; “filled with misinformation”; “unworthy of a scientific periodical” and “pap.”
One outraged ACS member wrote to Baum: “When all is said and done, and you and your kind are proven wrong (again), you will have moved on to be an unthinking urn for another rat pleading catastrophe. You will be removed. I promise.”
Baum ‘startled’ by scientists reaction.
Baum wrote on July 27, that he was “startled” and “surprised” by the “contempt” and “vehemence” of the ACS scientists to his view of the global warming “consensus.”
“Some of the letters I received are not fit to print. Many of the letters we have printed are, I think it is fair to say, outraged by my position on global warming,” Baum wrote.
Selected Excerpts of Skeptical Scientists:
“I think it’s time to find a new editor,” ACS member Thomas E. D’Ambra wrote.
Geochemist R. Everett Langford wrote: “I am appalled at the condescending attitude of Rudy Baum, Al Gore, President Barack Obama, et al., who essentially tell us that there is no need for further research—that the matter is solved.”
ACS scientist Dennis Malpass wrote: “Your editorial was a disgrace. It was filled with misinformation, half-truths, and ad hominem attacks on those who dare disagree with you. Shameful!”
ACS member scientist Dr. Howard Hayden, a Physics Professor Emeritus from the University of Connecticut: “Baum’s remarks are particularly disquieting because of his hostility toward skepticism, which is part of every scientist’s soul. Let’s cut to the chase with some questions for Baum: Which of the 20-odd major climate models has settled the science, such that all of the rest are now discarded? […] Do you refer to ‘climate change’ instead of ‘global warming’ because the claim of anthropogenic global warming has become increasingly contrary to fact?”
Edward H. Gleason wrote: “Baum’s attempt to close out debate goes against all my scientific training, and to hear this from my ACS is certainly alarming to me…his use of ‘climate-change deniers’ to pillory scientists who do not believe climate change is a crisis is disingenuous and unscientific.”
Atmospheric Chemist Roger L. Tanner: “I have very little in common with the philosophy of the Heartland Institute and other ‘free-market fanatics,’ and I consider myself a progressive Democrat. Nevertheless, we scientists should know better than to propound scientific truth by consensus and to excoriate skeptics with purple prose.”
William Tolley: “I take great offense that Baum would use Chemical and Engineering News, for which I pay dearly each year in membership dues, to purvey his personal views and so glibly ignore contrary information and scold those of us who honestly find these views to be a hoax.”
William E. Keller wrote: “However bitter you (Baum) personally may feel about CCDs (climate change deniers), it is not your place as editor to accuse them—falsely—of nonscientific behavior by using insultingly inappropriate language. […] The growing body of scientists, whom you abuse as sowing doubt, making up statistics, and claiming to be ignored by the media, are, in the main, highly competent professionals, experts in their fields, completely honorable, and highly versed in the scientific method—characteristics that apparently do not apply to you.”
ACS member Wallace Embry: “I would like to see the American Chemical Society Board ‘cap’ Baum’s political pen and ‘trade’ him to either the New York Times or Washington Post.” [To read the more reactions from scientists to Baum’s editorial go here and see below.]
Physicist Dr. Lubos Motl, who publishes the Reference Frame website, weighed in on the controversy as well, calling Baum’s editorial an “alarmist screed.”
“Now, the chemists are thinking about replacing this editor who has hijacked the ACS bulletin to promote his idiosyncratic political views,” Motl wrote on July 27, 2009.
Baum cites discredited Obama Administration Climate Report
To “prove” his assertion that the science was “becoming increasingly well established,” Baum cited the Obama Administration’s U.S. Global Change Research Program (USGCRP) study as evidence that the science was settled. [Climate Depot Editor’s Note: Baum’s grasp of the latest “science” is embarrassing. For Baum to cite the June 2009 Obama Administration report as “evidence” that science is growing stronger exposes him as having very poor research skills. See this comprehensive report on scientists rebuking that report. See: ‘Scaremongering’: Scientists Pan Obama Climate Report: ‘This is not a work of science but an embarrassing episode for the authors and NOAA’…’Misrepresents the science’ – July 8, 2009 )
Baum also touted the Congressional climate bill as “legislation with real teeth to control the emission of greenhouse gases.” [Climate Depot Editor’s Note: This is truly laughable that an editor-in-chief at the American Chemical Society could say the climate bill has “real teeth.” This statement should be retracted in full for lack of evidence. The Congressional climate bill has outraged environmental groups for failing to impact global temperatures and failing to even reduce emissions! See: Climate Depot Editorial: Climate bill offers (costly) non-solutions to problems that don’t even exist – No detectable climate impact: ‘If we actually faced a man-made ‘climate crisis’, we would all be doomed’ June 20, 2009 ]
The American Chemical Society’s scientific revolt is the latest in a series of recent eruptions against the so-called “consensus” on man-made global warming.
On May 1 2009, the American Physical Society (APS) Council decided to review its current climate statement via a high-level subcommittee of respected senior scientists. The decision was prompted after a group of 54 prominent physicists petitioned the APS revise its global warming position. The 54 physicists wrote to APS governing board: “Measured or reconstructed temperature records indicate that 20th – 21st century changes are neither exceptional nor persistent, and the historical and geological records show many periods warmer than today.”
The petition signed by the prominent physicists, led by Princeton University’s Dr. Will Happer, who has conducted 200 peer-reviewed scientific studies. The peer-reviewed journal Nature published a July 22, 2009 letter by the physicists persuading the APS to review its statement. In 2008, an American Physical Society editor conceded that a “considerable presence” of scientific skeptics exists.
In addition, in April 2009, the Polish National Academy of Science reportedly “published a document that expresses skepticism over the concept of man-made global warming.” An abundance of new peer-reviewed scientific studies continue to be published challenging the UN IPCC climate views. (See: Climate Fears RIP…for 30 years!? – Global Warming could stop ‘for up to 30 years! Warming ‘On Hold?…’Could go into hiding for decades,’ peer-reviewed study finds – Discovery.com – March 2, 2009 & Peer-Reviewed Study Rocks Climate Debate! ‘Nature not man responsible for recent global warming…little or none of late 20th century warming and cooling can be attributed to humans’ – July 23, 2009 )
A March 2009 a 255-page U. S. Senate Report detailed “More Than 700 International Scientists Dissenting Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims.” 2009’s continued lack of warming, further frustrated the promoters of man-made climate fears. See: Earth’s ‘Fever’ Breaks! Global temperatures ‘have plunged .74°F since Gore released An Inconvenient Truth’ – July 5, 2009
In addition, the following developments further in 2008 challenged the “consensus” of global warming. India Issued a report challenging global warming fears; a canvass of more than 51,000 Canadian scientists revealed 68% disagree that global warming science is “settled”; A Japan Geoscience Union symposium survey in 2008 reportedly “showed 90 per cent of the participants do not believe the IPCC report.” Scientific meetings are now being dominated by a growing number of skeptical scientists. The prestigious International Geological Congress, dubbed the geologists’ equivalent of the Olympic Games, was held in Norway in August 2008 and prominently featured the voices of scientists skeptical of man-made global warming fears. [See: Skeptical scientists overwhelm conference: ‘2/3 of presenters and question-askers were hostile to, even dismissive of, the UN IPCC’ & see full reports here & here – Also see: UN IPCC’s William Schlesinger admits in 2009 that only 20% of IPCC scientists deal with climate ]
h/t to ClimateDepot.com go there for links to the above referenced stories.
The ACS letters to the editor are here: http://pubs.acs.org/cen/letters/87/8730letters.html
“If you are a nonscientist, science to you, should be what scientists say it is.”
A scientist is anyone capable of rational thinking, so if a scientist tells you a load then tell him, he isn’t a priest.
This attitude is alarming.
eric (10:09:51) :”If you are a nonscientist, science to you, should be what scientists say it is. ”
This would be true if everyone had an IQ of 80, but that isn’t the case. There are plenty of intelligent people with math, physics, and other scientific/technical backgrounds who have the time to learn about something that isn’t in their field. This is what is happening with people like Ryan O, McIntyre, etc. But there are also active, qualified, climatologists that don’t believe CO2 is a threat to our well being. If you are intelligent, you can study the issues and draw your own conclusions. That is what many of us here do. Your appeal to authority is hollow.
eric the not-B,
It is you who are not making sense. Or more probably, you are naïve.
The Wegman Report to Congress shows clearly how the climate peer review system has been gamed by a smallish clique of rent-seeking gatekeepers, who play favorites regarding who is published and who is denied. The climate peer review system has been corrupted by people who use their positions to support each other in their grant applications.
Some of them lie to keep their jobs. Wouldn’t you? Agreeing with your boss is prudent, even if you privately disagree.
Most who are published are hand-waved through the process; they are given a free pass if they’re considered one of the “good guys.” But if they are a true skeptic, they have a much harder time getting past the self-appointed gatekeepers.
There is so much evidence of this that you must be deliberately ignoring it. A typical example is this account by Bishop Hill, which shows the lengths to which dishonest people will go to keep the tax money flowing into their pockets, and away from anyone who questions AGW: click. Read it, then get back to us about “who has the right answer.”
Let me add, that I am one of those who sent him an email that blasted his editorial and challenged him to a debate. I got a rather snotty response in which he said it would not be worth it (debate) as I “already have all the answers.”
Update: Scientist Accuses American Chemical Society Editor of ‘censoring of articles and letters’ that reject man-made global warming claims!
For those that have not seen this on ClimateDepot.com.
I have been a member of ACS since 1976 when I started my Ph.D. program at the University of California, Irvine where Sherry Rolland did the work on CFC’s. So I was exposed to atmospheric chemistry from an early age. I hope the Science prevails. Hype is not a constructive activity.
CodeTech,
Late to the party, so you may miss this, but while DDT has no impact on quail egs, DDE a variant of DDT appears to have a very real shell-thinning effect on Raptors and other sensitive species.
The thing is, a little DDE doesn’t do it. Clearly, we could and should be using careful dosing in serious infestionation and high risk situations.
More on this here: http://www.reason.com/news/show/34742.html
Sorry Eric you’re right, I don’t call myself a scientist. But having been a member of the research society in graduate school. Having done research. (multi-variant complex systems.) Having written research policy in my professional caree. Having been a member of a state research task force.
Allow me a few indulgences. I would say the idea of what science is, is what “scientists say it is.” Or, what you say it is; is funny.
Science is about a proceedure, method and evidence, You and the AGWing have failed in those.
In grad school and in my professional career I saw a lot of bad science. Sorry I can’t do as you say, and listen blindly. You and AGWing have failed in procedure, method and evidence. And I’ve seen a lot of bad science masquarading as truth.
I’d get into the rest but it looks like others did it.
BTW My graduate training wasn’t in medicine. But I did work with a number of MD’s. Including med school professors. If I’m told I have cancer. I’ll look for someone whose judgment I trust. I’ve seen questionable MD’s. And MD’s with their own agendas, biases and blind spots.
L (23:33:41) :
“Amidst all the hoo-ha, has anyone noticed that nine of the ten warmest years of the 21st Century have occurred since 2000, and the tenth is happening as we write?
On the other hand, that’s equally true for the nine coolest. Go figure.”
Stastically speaking, of course.
BTW, did you notice that the average temperature of the nine coolest and the nine warmest years of the 21st century were exactly the same!?!? What are the odds of that? ;o)
Jimmy Haigh (19:02:32) :
John A (18:53:13) :
“I personally think we should leave statistics and statistical models to statisticians, but that’s just me.”
The thing is statistics is just playing around with numbers. And numbers can be made up…”
To right about numbers. But statistics are very useful, I used them to figure out which lab techs are falsifying data… Unfortunately falsifying data seems to have increase over the years. Mann and Hansen have not helped matters by making science a political football.
Can someone please explain to me how every media editor, institution executive and senior politician is singing the same tune on AGW? – a tune that is increasingly out of touch with the wider readership and population.
Is this a classic case of group hysteria?
Is there a global puppet master with his/her hand up everyone’s back?
Is there an international CIA or KGB with a gun at everyone’s head?
If there a giant slush-fund somewhere that I have been excluded from?
How has all this been achieved??
.
>>>If we were doing a list of magazines I can’t and won’t
>>>subscribe to any more I would add Discover and
>>>Skeptical Inquirer
And New Scientist.
>>>It all began when some green idiot described something
>>>he/she supposed in his/her empty skull to be bad, as
>>>being “bad because it is a chemical“.
We had a laugh a few years back in the UK, when one green organistion made a sincere complaint about food companies starting to use chemicals like sodium chloride in their products.
Shock horror, salt is a chemical.
.
>>>This decade, it appears, will go in the books as the
>>>warmest year on decade. The 90’s rounds off the top two.
And an hour after the tide has turned, the sea-level with still be ‘the second highest recorded that day’ – but you can bet your bottom dollar it is all downhill from there.
Hadcrut – global temperatures already past the peak…
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:1998/offset:-0.1/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:1998/offset:-.2/trend
.
“When all is said and done, and you and your kind are proven wrong (again), you will have moved on to be an unthinking urn for another rat pleading catastrophe. You will be removed. I promise.”
LOL this is surely the tipping point of the debate, My BBQ with my MP is going to shock him. All pol’s had better wake up before the down draft of public opinion suck them down and spit them out.
I have been in science. I’ve experienced the extreme pressure to play the game in order to keep the job or get the funding. I have witnessed the I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine gate keeping during proposal review before it gets passed on to the funding stage. I know the road of a new scientist who must earn their keep before they can disagree. It is a trial by fire and usually what gets burned to ashes is your notion of idealism regarding following the observation and experimentation to let it speak on its own terms. That illusion disappears by the second week on the job. It is the rare exception to find a lab that is without agenda.
With that background, do you know why the editor of the above rag was surprised by the back lash? One of the planks of the organization espouses the rhetoric of global warming and the call to arms against it. Yet there are still members who pay dues that do not believe in the alarmism that is in their own organization’s position statement. So why do they not vote with their dollars and remove themselves from membership? Let me count the ways. It is a bitter pill that is swallowed every day.
********************
ralph ellis (01:37:09) :
Can someone please explain to me how every media editor, institution executive and senior politician is singing the same tune on AGW? – a tune that is increasingly out of touch with the wider readership and population.
*************************
IMO, it started with the environmental movement. Saving the planet sounds like such a good idea!! Left wing idealists, many with ideological roots in the 60s and 70s, came to power as they got older. They then directed state and other resources towards environmental studies and other projects. Love Canal and other environmental problems pushed this along. Because of all this, money was made available to environmental researchers. They chase this money to this day.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/07/23/climate-science-follow-the-money/
There are also people who passionately believe in environmental issues like global warming. They don’t have a scientific or technical background and don’t really understand the science, but believe what people like Jim Hanson have to say. They create political support. There is no conspiracy – except maybe from people like Al Gore. I do believe he and his buddies do what they can to promote these ideas, but that does not amount to a “global” conspiracy.
************************
Ern Matthews (02:15:45) :
“When all is said and done, and you and your kind are proven wrong (again), you will have moved on to be an unthinking urn for another rat pleading catastrophe. You will be removed. I promise.”
LOL this is surely the tipping point of the debate, My BBQ with my MP is going to shock him. All pol’s had better wake up before the down draft of public opinion suck them down and spit them out.
*************************
Actually, I hope the pols die a political death on the hill of global warming. We need some new blood in government, all over the world!
Pamela Gray (06:15:15) :
That is a good question. Speaking personally, through the years, I have often thought of “making a statement” and resigning my membership, but there are good solid “nuts and bolts” types of benefits that the Society does provide. Things like life insurance and investment opportunities available under favorable terms to the membership, along with substantial discounts for members attending National Meetings. Also, if I’m not mistaken, membership is required by at least one co-author to present at a meeting. I really have no problem with those requirements, since it is supposed to be a “professional society”.
The problem comes, like with many large organizations, when a management “class” takes over. Like a successful, well-run private corporation founded by the surly crusty guy who puts his heart and sole into the business and then turns the reins over to the Harvard MBA’s who promptly lose sight of the original mission, professional organizations have a similar problem with being taken over by a bureaucratic class who see them as a good opportunity for a “career” (read <i really, really, really good paycheck.
If they can earn a lot more money within this bureaucracy than anywhere else <i and stand on their soap box too, hey, what’s not to like?
The people that don’t like it tend to have real jobs and don’t have the time and vested interest to fight the system like those entrenched in this good-life, so the bureaucratic class gets to continue with their sweet existence as long as they’re not too disconnected from reality.
In my opinion, this sad episode, along with hard economic times will soon cause some real changes at the ACS.
http://reedgrouplab.ucr.edu/documents/Executive%20Compensation%20and%20Transparency.htm
http://www.chemistry-blog.com/tag/madeline-jacobs/
dang html commands. You’ll have to guess where those itallics were meant to be.
I sincerely hope members of the ACS don’t resign – I hope they stay and get Baum to resign.
Jim, the left/right divide is a mirage. See through it. It makes good people insult other good people, and, hence, we are much easier to manage. Saving the planet from real pollution (burning rivers, remember???) is certainly not a bad idea no matter from whence it came. The vast majority of AGWers are being managed by being fed misinformation. This is certainly not the only area that this type of pied piperism happens. The politicians and media (All — left, right and center) has perfected the technique and as long as you look to it for general information you will be misled.
has = have
it = them
RE:
Eric B (16:38:59) “……First off, it’s a theory, not a hypothesis. ……”
Theory and hypothesis are roughly synonymous, Eric.
RE:
eric (10:09:51) :
“If you are a nonscientist, science to you, should be what scientists say it is.”
Ooooooohhhhhhhhhhh. I don’t think so, kiddo. Not when it’s my money; not when it’s my future or the future of my country or of my kids.
Furthermore, who are you to say who is or is not a scientist with valuable knowledge in any given field. As you and the other Eric have so kindly pointed out, fields overlap, knowledge, in general, overlaps.
An online acquainence of mine claims to be friends with an associate editor for ACS and claims that the “lunkheads” are the minoroty and the vast, vast majority of ACS members are in agreement with Baum.
I have asked for the name and title of this individual so I can verify that he is indeed an Associate Editor for ACS, and not suprisingly, was told he wished to remain anonymous.
Right…
So until I see otherwise, I will assume that those that care ehough are writing in, and I see a whole bunch writing in against Baum.