Scientists seek to remove climate fear promoting editor and ‘trade him to New York Times or Washington Post’

An outpouring of skeptical scientists who are members of the American Chemical Society (ACS) are revolting against the group’s editor-in-chief — with some demanding he be removed — after an editorial appeared claiming “the science of anthropogenic climate change is becoming increasingly well established.”
The editorial claimed the “consensus” view was growing “increasingly difficult to challenge, despite the efforts of diehard climate-change deniers.” The editor now admits he is “startled” by the negative reaction from the group’s scientific members. The American Chemical Society bills itself as the “world’s largest scientific society.”
The June 22, 2009 editorial in Chemical and Engineering News by editor in chief Rudy Baum, is facing widespread blowback and condemnation from American Chemical Society member scientists. Baum concluded his editorial by stating that “deniers” are attempting to “derail meaningful efforts to respond to global climate change.”
Dozens of letters from ACS members were published on July 27, 2009 castigating Baum, with some scientists calling for his replacement as editor-in-chief.
The editorial was met with a swift, passionate and scientific rebuke from Baum’s colleagues. Virtually all of the letters published on July 27 in castigated Baum’s climate science views. Scientists rebuked Baum’s use of the word “deniers” because of the terms “association with Holocaust deniers.” In addition, the scientists called Baum’s editorial: “disgusting”; “a disgrace”; “filled with misinformation”; “unworthy of a scientific periodical” and “pap.”
One outraged ACS member wrote to Baum: “When all is said and done, and you and your kind are proven wrong (again), you will have moved on to be an unthinking urn for another rat pleading catastrophe. You will be removed. I promise.”
Baum ‘startled’ by scientists reaction.
Baum wrote on July 27, that he was “startled” and “surprised” by the “contempt” and “vehemence” of the ACS scientists to his view of the global warming “consensus.”
“Some of the letters I received are not fit to print. Many of the letters we have printed are, I think it is fair to say, outraged by my position on global warming,” Baum wrote.
Selected Excerpts of Skeptical Scientists:
“I think it’s time to find a new editor,” ACS member Thomas E. D’Ambra wrote.
Geochemist R. Everett Langford wrote: “I am appalled at the condescending attitude of Rudy Baum, Al Gore, President Barack Obama, et al., who essentially tell us that there is no need for further research—that the matter is solved.”
ACS scientist Dennis Malpass wrote: “Your editorial was a disgrace. It was filled with misinformation, half-truths, and ad hominem attacks on those who dare disagree with you. Shameful!”
ACS member scientist Dr. Howard Hayden, a Physics Professor Emeritus from the University of Connecticut: “Baum’s remarks are particularly disquieting because of his hostility toward skepticism, which is part of every scientist’s soul. Let’s cut to the chase with some questions for Baum: Which of the 20-odd major climate models has settled the science, such that all of the rest are now discarded? […] Do you refer to ‘climate change’ instead of ‘global warming’ because the claim of anthropogenic global warming has become increasingly contrary to fact?”
Edward H. Gleason wrote: “Baum’s attempt to close out debate goes against all my scientific training, and to hear this from my ACS is certainly alarming to me…his use of ‘climate-change deniers’ to pillory scientists who do not believe climate change is a crisis is disingenuous and unscientific.”
Atmospheric Chemist Roger L. Tanner: “I have very little in common with the philosophy of the Heartland Institute and other ‘free-market fanatics,’ and I consider myself a progressive Democrat. Nevertheless, we scientists should know better than to propound scientific truth by consensus and to excoriate skeptics with purple prose.”
William Tolley: “I take great offense that Baum would use Chemical and Engineering News, for which I pay dearly each year in membership dues, to purvey his personal views and so glibly ignore contrary information and scold those of us who honestly find these views to be a hoax.”
William E. Keller wrote: “However bitter you (Baum) personally may feel about CCDs (climate change deniers), it is not your place as editor to accuse them—falsely—of nonscientific behavior by using insultingly inappropriate language. […] The growing body of scientists, whom you abuse as sowing doubt, making up statistics, and claiming to be ignored by the media, are, in the main, highly competent professionals, experts in their fields, completely honorable, and highly versed in the scientific method—characteristics that apparently do not apply to you.”
ACS member Wallace Embry: “I would like to see the American Chemical Society Board ‘cap’ Baum’s political pen and ‘trade’ him to either the New York Times or Washington Post.” [To read the more reactions from scientists to Baum’s editorial go here and see below.]
Physicist Dr. Lubos Motl, who publishes the Reference Frame website, weighed in on the controversy as well, calling Baum’s editorial an “alarmist screed.”
“Now, the chemists are thinking about replacing this editor who has hijacked the ACS bulletin to promote his idiosyncratic political views,” Motl wrote on July 27, 2009.
Baum cites discredited Obama Administration Climate Report
To “prove” his assertion that the science was “becoming increasingly well established,” Baum cited the Obama Administration’s U.S. Global Change Research Program (USGCRP) study as evidence that the science was settled. [Climate Depot Editor’s Note: Baum’s grasp of the latest “science” is embarrassing. For Baum to cite the June 2009 Obama Administration report as “evidence” that science is growing stronger exposes him as having very poor research skills. See this comprehensive report on scientists rebuking that report. See: ‘Scaremongering’: Scientists Pan Obama Climate Report: ‘This is not a work of science but an embarrassing episode for the authors and NOAA’…’Misrepresents the science’ – July 8, 2009 )
Baum also touted the Congressional climate bill as “legislation with real teeth to control the emission of greenhouse gases.” [Climate Depot Editor’s Note: This is truly laughable that an editor-in-chief at the American Chemical Society could say the climate bill has “real teeth.” This statement should be retracted in full for lack of evidence. The Congressional climate bill has outraged environmental groups for failing to impact global temperatures and failing to even reduce emissions! See: Climate Depot Editorial: Climate bill offers (costly) non-solutions to problems that don’t even exist – No detectable climate impact: ‘If we actually faced a man-made ‘climate crisis’, we would all be doomed’ June 20, 2009 ]
The American Chemical Society’s scientific revolt is the latest in a series of recent eruptions against the so-called “consensus” on man-made global warming.
On May 1 2009, the American Physical Society (APS) Council decided to review its current climate statement via a high-level subcommittee of respected senior scientists. The decision was prompted after a group of 54 prominent physicists petitioned the APS revise its global warming position. The 54 physicists wrote to APS governing board: “Measured or reconstructed temperature records indicate that 20th – 21st century changes are neither exceptional nor persistent, and the historical and geological records show many periods warmer than today.”
The petition signed by the prominent physicists, led by Princeton University’s Dr. Will Happer, who has conducted 200 peer-reviewed scientific studies. The peer-reviewed journal Nature published a July 22, 2009 letter by the physicists persuading the APS to review its statement. In 2008, an American Physical Society editor conceded that a “considerable presence” of scientific skeptics exists.
In addition, in April 2009, the Polish National Academy of Science reportedly “published a document that expresses skepticism over the concept of man-made global warming.” An abundance of new peer-reviewed scientific studies continue to be published challenging the UN IPCC climate views. (See: Climate Fears RIP…for 30 years!? – Global Warming could stop ‘for up to 30 years! Warming ‘On Hold?…’Could go into hiding for decades,’ peer-reviewed study finds – Discovery.com – March 2, 2009 & Peer-Reviewed Study Rocks Climate Debate! ‘Nature not man responsible for recent global warming…little or none of late 20th century warming and cooling can be attributed to humans’ – July 23, 2009 )
A March 2009 a 255-page U. S. Senate Report detailed “More Than 700 International Scientists Dissenting Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims.” 2009’s continued lack of warming, further frustrated the promoters of man-made climate fears. See: Earth’s ‘Fever’ Breaks! Global temperatures ‘have plunged .74°F since Gore released An Inconvenient Truth’ – July 5, 2009
In addition, the following developments further in 2008 challenged the “consensus” of global warming. India Issued a report challenging global warming fears; a canvass of more than 51,000 Canadian scientists revealed 68% disagree that global warming science is “settled”; A Japan Geoscience Union symposium survey in 2008 reportedly “showed 90 per cent of the participants do not believe the IPCC report.” Scientific meetings are now being dominated by a growing number of skeptical scientists. The prestigious International Geological Congress, dubbed the geologists’ equivalent of the Olympic Games, was held in Norway in August 2008 and prominently featured the voices of scientists skeptical of man-made global warming fears. [See: Skeptical scientists overwhelm conference: ‘2/3 of presenters and question-askers were hostile to, even dismissive of, the UN IPCC’ & see full reports here & here – Also see: UN IPCC’s William Schlesinger admits in 2009 that only 20% of IPCC scientists deal with climate ]
h/t to ClimateDepot.com go there for links to the above referenced stories.
The ACS letters to the editor are here: http://pubs.acs.org/cen/letters/87/8730letters.html
Waxman will see about this! LOL
Eric B (16:49:01) :
The credential of every signee of the petition project is independently verified.
And it’s interesting that the letters to the editor overwhelmingly rejects Rudy Baum’s editorial. If the ACW view are prevalent in the ACS society, why haven’t the proponents expressed their support of Baum’s article and stance by the boatload? Maybe the people (ACS members) who actually work in a scientific field know more and think more than those who blindly believe the hysterical propaganda spewed out by Al Gore and the like.
Eric B: So you are another guy of that gang who think CO2 is a black nasty gas. No, it is the gas YOU exhale and plants breath…and, BTW, it is heavier than the air so seek it down by your feet… (confused?)
Easy on Eric B people he started on the wrong foot right from the get go. I promised to be much more respectful toward people with a different view recently in the after effects of a heated dinner party discussion.
So in light of that I would simply say that Eric B started with a comment [ Eric B (15:03:36) ]that that made no sense when taken in context of this blog posting and has simply supported the initial impression I got and that was a appeal to authority message desperately trying to not appear as one. (Second one this week I might add ).
The Society’s official position was not the subject of this post, it was the actual editorial and it’s non-scientific position and remarks that sparked off the responses. These types of comments from the AGW supporters are the last tread on the stair when being pushed off the stage or the first step when trying to get on it.
I for one welcome Eric B and look forward to the comments he will make in the future because sometimes watching someone flounder around is far more fun than rescuing them right away.
I personally think we should leave statistics and statistical models to statisticians, but that’s just me.
This has been an awesome week… between ThinkLife or whatever and Eric B, I’ve had lots to entertain me on these windy, cool evenings… too windy to safely fly my R/C planes, too wavy on the lake to run the boats.
I would like to take this opportunity to publicly thank these two individuals for providing a fairly good body of material for my upcoming book 🙂
When ACS put out the “official” position on climate change, have they (the management of the Society) conducted a survey on what the members really think of the issue? If they have not, it is save to assume that the “official” position does not truely reflect the members’ view whatsoever.
Of course, after this fiasco, if the majority of the ACS members are supportive of the AGW theory, one would expect some kind of petition made by them that shows their collective stances. But so far it is the skeptical view that dominate the Letter to the Editor column. All six columns indeed.
not that climate change deniers are unfamiliar with underhanded mathematics.
Too funny! Considering the reluctance of AGW scientists to release their algorithms.
Easy on Eric B people he started on the wrong foot right from the get go. I promised to be much more respectful toward people with a different view recently in the after effects of a heated dinner party discussion.
I agree. He is posting in “hostile territory”. (Though less hostile, perhaps, than he might believe; there are a number of pro-AGW posters here whose comments are welcome.)
When one is in an environment one perceives as hostile, one is more likely to come out swinging.
OTOH, Eric, beware . . . many scientists are becoming skeptical. Few are going the other way. And there are those among us who came to scoff, but stayed to pray!
John A (18:53:13) :
“I personally think we should leave statistics and statistical models to statisticians, but that’s just me.”
The thing is statistics is just playing around with numbers. And numbers can be made up… You can even make hockey sticks out of them.
While several of your points are reasonable, the consensus is a fabrication Eric.
Anytime you see people in agreement about everything, look for an outside source. In this case it’s staring you right in the eyes. RC is a group of advocates who were once scientists. A point which has been demonstrated by their continued support of the clearly false Mannian reconstructions, among other things.
Sorry for the OT Anthony. It’s a sticking point for me. I’ll leave the thread alone now.
John A — I’d like to leave cooking to cooks, but I can’t afford it.
The thing is statistics is just playing around with numbers. And numbers can be made up… You can even make hockey sticks out of them.
Particularly if you overweight them with bristlecone pines.
Pops (15:25:23) :
Consensus – Agreement in the judgment or opinion reached by a group as a whole.
What’s the distinction between Consensus and Group Think?
“Eric B (16:04:32) :
These people resent being called ~snip~ yet they recycle the same Rush Limbaugh rhetoric about volcanoes spewing more CO2 than humans and the lack of a tropical tropospheric hotspot disproving AGW. Mr. Baum is just calling a spade a spade.”
And then there’s the truth. Krakatoa is spitting chunks again.
I have asked this question before and I will ask again: what will constitute a legitimate disproof of AGW/ACC? Name them and start from there. Otherwise, any empirical observation that contradicts climate models’ predictions can be dismissed as “oh it’s just weather” or “oh it’s natural variability; the long-term trend hasn’t changed”. Or is that the intent?
Oh my goodness.
It’s out of the bag now.
What, no consensus?
The fun is just beginning.
gt,
AGW does not have to be disproved by skeptics. Rather, the purveyors of the CO2=AGW hypothesis must be able to falsify the long accepted theory of natural climate variability.
Otherwise, mainstream theorists would have to falsify every crackpot hypothesis that comes along. It would be like saying that I have a hypothesis that gravity will reverse, and we will all fly off the Earth.
It’s not up to the mainstream scientists who accept the theory of gravity to disprove every wacky hypothesis. It is up to the promoters of the AGW hypothesis to falsify the theory of natural climate change. So far, they have failed.
I’m a Ph.D. chemist and 26 year ACS member. I began doubting AGW about 3 years ago when President Bush jumped aboard the bandwagon. More than anything, I can’t comprehend the “it’s settled” attitude from anyone with a scientific background.
Rudy Baum’s opinions burn me up sometimes. Now it appears that he and ACS are neither good for chemists or America. Each year ACS raises dues by a few dollars to help offset loss in membership and journal subscription revenue. What do we get besides a weekly chemical propaganda magazine and a cheap 25th anniversary pen?
It saddens me that my dues are really just supporting the jet setting fat cats of ACS, like Baum. For me this settles it. I’m going to contact ACS tomorrow and ask if I can get a prorated refund for canceling my membership now instead of at the end of the year. Then I’ll explain that Rudy Baum is the reason why I can no longer support ACS.
@DaveE (18:19:24) :
“Roger Sowell (17:28:12) :
I just LOVE Temple’s “Climate scientists do not measure a “global temperature,” but instead use deviations from historic averages, from a massive number of stations. This is an extremely accurate and reliable method of measurement.”
Mmmmmmmmmmm
How do you measure a deviation without measuring a temperature? I’ve often asked myself that!”
Not sure what you are getting at, Dave E. Temple is firmly in the AGW camp and trying to discredit Dr. Latour, and fails miserably. It appears to me that both the baseline temperature measurement, and deviations from that baseline are seriously suspect, as Anthony Watts and team have demonstrated.
The very notion of GISS (and possibly others) adjusting temperatures that were taken long before any of us were born is not science, it is making up data. My grandfather read a thermometer on his ranch daily and recorded the number in a log, by hand, with ink pen. He used care in both the reading and the recording. There were no urban heat island issues on the ranch, and no improper siting issues, either. The fence post on which the thermometer (and the rain gauge) were mounted was about shoulder height for him, almost exactly 5 feet above ground. The fence post with his thermometer and rain gauge were more than 50 feet from the house, because he wanted an accurate measure of the rain and did not want wind blowing around the house affecting the rain gauge.
For any modern “scientist” to take such raw data and change it through computer manipulations to suit a political agenda is wrong, and a slap in the face of those who recorded the measurements.
I am sure that there are thousands of WUWT readers who have ancestors who were just as meticulous as my grandfather, or who recorded such data themselves.
The chemical engineers know that the A in AGW is a farce, and laugh about it loudly and often. So do the chemists that I know.
As a 15-year member of ACS, I can state that I have never been asked for my views on climate change. I consider the “Official Position Statement” as a jump on the bandwagon to steer more grant money to chemistry. This is a very political statement – not scientific. Their statement starts by referencing other professional scientific organization’s statements. Their recommendations center around additional research.
People need to realize that the majority of chemists do not work in fields that are relevant to climate science. The basic chemistry of atmospheric CO2 is well known – it is the cross-disciplinary application of this science that is questionable.
Gary Lund
Please post here the letter you sent to ACS.
That would be fine, but they tend to get other people involved.
Both groups do.
[REPLY – Indeed. And they do tend to run up the expenses, do they not? And we cannot do without them. However . . . ~ Evan]
For what it is worth, I’m a PhD chemist and I was an ACS member for many years. I quit my membership about 3 years ago, because of the political activism of the Society. The “Society” used to be scientific; now they are nothing but political hacks who have totally abandonded science, and I will not support that chicanery. As with the MSM, they are slowly committing suicide by letting the morons withiin the DC Beltline dictate “attitude” and “policy” for the rest of the Nation. I predict that they will be bankrupt by 2011, just like NYT, etc. Unfortunately, the chemists of the Nation have allowed supercillious MORONS to control their once very proud association. VERY SAD! It is just like the current POTUS, and it is travesty. BYE, ACS!
I don’t know how many times you have to say it, Smokey, but apparently the previous 200 weren’t enough.
I expect the only reason many “scientists” either have accepted the AGW hypothesis or have no opinion on it (ie they allow organizations like a ACS to make a statement on their behalf) is that they have assumed that all of the voices yapping about it have done the same due diligence on data collection and science that they would do.
It is almost universal that once anyone with any sort of science background starts investigating, they quickly realize that there is no real science backing this hypothesis. And hypothesis it is… AGW is NOT a “theory”, which would require some degree of evidence.
I’ve noted before: in order to push an agenda, it is a typical tactic of one particular side to create a dichotomy and frame the excuse for the agenda as left vs. right, which is definitely what we are seeing here. It’s also their typical tactic to marginalize and mock any dissenters on a personal level.
Well so much for James Hansen the astronomer and almost the entire IPCC then…