Study: Media and environmental doomsday – like peas and carrots

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In TV there’s been this saying forever: “if it bleeds it leads” referring to what story would be the lead story in the TV newscast. It stands to reason then that “environmental catastrophe” would get more airplay and print. This study confirms what I’ve known for a very long time – chaos sells newspapers and makes ratings. Except…now people are getting saturated. AGW has become the O.J. Simpson story of our time, it has worn out its welcome. – Anthony

Media Tend To Doomsay When Addressing Environmental Issues

A reporter takes notes during a demonstration for the enforcement of the Kioto protocol in in Calgary (Canada). (Credit: ItzaFineDay (Creative Commons))

ScienceDaily (July 9, 2009) — This study, undertaken by researchers from the University of the Basque Country (UBC), analyses the role played by the media in creating and spreading a stance regarding the protection of the environment, sustainable development and natural heritage.

This research, published in the latest issue of the Revista Latina de Comunicación Social (Latin Journal of Social Communication in English) proposes and performs an analysis of the dialectic strategies used by the daily press to treat environmental information. Jose Ignacio Lorente, a lecturer at the UBC and one of the researchers who participated in the project told SINC that the study was concerned with “the way in which social communication media, particularly news media, contribute to creating and spreading social visions of sustainable development and the conservation and protection of the environment in general and natural heritage in particular”.

The research team studied the information published in connection with the environmental summit held in Bali in 2007. Apart from this analysis, the researchers complemented this information with a survey carried out in Urdaibai the Basque Country. The questions referred to the perceptions, attitudes and willingness to participate in mitigating the adverse effects of climate change, aspects in relation to the social representations identified in the analysis of the contents of the study.

The extensive analysis of the dialectics included an evaluation of the so-called news agendas, as well as framing procedures (the way in which the media determine how they will consider and publicly present information) and priming procedures (which ensure the relevance of certain aspects of the news that sustain the reasoning behind a given interpretation of the facts).

Lorente believes the conclusions of this study suggest that “the media make an active contribution to tackling the complexity of the sustainability crisis of the current model of development, by confining their interpretation to environmental problems, but also fail to consider the social, economic and cultural aspects of a production system based on growth and the massive exploitation of natural resources”.

What Happens and What the Media Says

According to the results of the study, the news agenda that the media developed regarding the Summit in Bali focused on scientific evidence of the global dimensions of climate change, the fact that its potentially devastating effects could be immediate and its anthropogenic nature. However, according to the researchers, this agenda “avoided addressing the real reasons behind the political argument in detail, by means of a narrative strategy in which dramatising conflicts, threats and delays regarding CO2 quotas prevailed,” becoming the top priority for the Bali Summit.

However, Lorente adds, “the emphasis the media placed on scientific evidence regarding the human nature of the causes for climate change was not linked to citizens’ sphere of activity, despite fact that their everyday decisions and behaviour – transport, energy saving, recycling – account for 20% of the problem”.

According to the research by the UBC, alarmist and catastrophist news focusing on the risk of natural disasters and the urgency of political and economic action “places the emphasis on the heroic efforts of abstract and distant individuals whose motives are not always clear”. This approach, they say, appears to lack references to or be based on citizen’s everyday life.

Furthermore, the prominence of the eco-efficient approach (based on expectations that techno-scientific development is enough to mitigate the effects of climate change) results in the media not covering the debate in connection with the social, economic and cultural model that citizens are willing to assume and share, reinforcing instead, according to Lorente, the perspective that our current way of life, production and consumption is the only option available when it comes to interpreting development and sustainability.”


Journal reference:

  1. José Ignacio Lorente; José Enrique Antolín; Francisco Javier Doblas. La construcción mediática de lo ecológico. Estrategias discursivas en la información de actualidad. Revista Latina de Comunicación Social, Number 64, pages 315-327
Adapted from materials provided by Plataforma SINC.
h/t anonymoose
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87 thoughts on “Study: Media and environmental doomsday – like peas and carrots

  1. To be honest, this is not a surprise. How often do you read an article about the climate in the MSM which was written by a meteorologist?
    If anyone were to measure such a thing, I feel sure that the majority of climate column inches in the MSM these days would turn out to be penned by writers who hold positions along the lines of “Environment Editor/Correspondent”. Where did they come from and, equally important, where will the future “Environmental Correspondents” come from?
    The University of East Anglia (coincidentally the home of the UK Met Office’s Hadley Centre) now offers a 1-year course to obtain an MSc in “climate change and development”.
    http://www.uea.ac.uk/dev/MScCCID
    Applicants for the MSc programme should have a good first degree in “either the social sciences or science” (note the juxtaposition of these two!!). The course will cover, inter alia:
    • Conflict, Peace and Security
    • Contemporary World Development
    • Educational Policy and Practice in Development
    • Food Systems and Rural Development
    • Gender, Difference and Social Policy
    • Globalisation, Industrialisation and Development
    • Health and Development
    • Policies and Issues in Environment and Development
    • Rural Policies
    Oh, and there are optional modules covering:
    • Development Perspectives
    • Gender Concepts for Development
    • Governance, Democracy and Development
    • Gender and Rural Livelihoods
    • Introduction to Education and Development
    • Introduction to Social Development
    • Research Techniques and Analysis
    Hang on! Where’s the meteorology in all that?
    This course almost guarantees an alarmist, non-science, outcome.
    I would expect that anyone who successfully obtains an MSc in Climate Change and Development from the UAE would easily beat a meteorologist, no matter how qualified or experienced, if competing for an editorial position in the environmental section of a mainstream media outlet.
    Thus we can expect no change, I’m afraid.

  2. Sounds like a study lamenting the way the media presents the AGW story and not whether there’s even a real story to present. And how can you blame the media when folks like Gore & Hansen keep feeding the media gloom and doom spin on the supposed dangers of AGW?
    As for real folk (forget the silliness of celebrities), most people have to live within a modest income, pinching pennies – they’re quite aware of sustainability (though they might not use such terms).

  3. There ain’t no news like bad news. Don Henley wrote a song about this in the 80’s. It was called Dirty Laundry. Is it any wonder why TV news and newspapers are losing ratings and subscribers rapidly? People now know they can get more objective and better news through the internet.

  4. The mainstream media is just an arm of the government.
    The government is an arm of the Democrat party.
    In a nutshell.

  5. This article makes a valid point. Recently a good friend of mine was interviewed regarding his company’s efforts in carbon capture and storage. His view is that he is not scientifically qualified to offer an opinion as to whether AGW is real, but that if society wishes to address that issue, he can help in a meaningful and verifiable way.
    The reporter tried many times to lead him into making an outrageous or catastrophic statement. When he refused, the interview ended up on the cutting room floor.
    So much for unbiased media treatment.

  6. This is why the AGW storyline is basically an IQ Test. If you fall for the bamboozle and propoganda, you are said to “care” about the environment. If you see through this scam, you sir, are a denialist and worse than Hitler and should resign. We are witnesses to the use of a lie to create a national ponzi scheme of rationed energy to enrich Algore and his merry band of thieves.
    Algore should either be prosecuted or put in a straightjacket. And our laws should not be based on a foundation of lies. No matter how big the lie or how often it is told.

  7. The mainstream media will go to any length to feed the 24 hour news cycle. the Alarmist and Green propaganda is easy fodder for the masses to digest in quick easy soundbites.
    But if one major outlet would get off it’s butt and devote the resources, effort, and political will it would take to truly investigate the question without preconcived biases, and with all of the resources available, the wheels would come off the AGW wagon…..sigh just a pipe dream.

  8. One can yell “Fire” just so many times until it gets boring and no one cares anymore especially if the fire happens to be a small camp fire rather than an enormous inferno.

  9. In this same issue of Science Daily(which appears to feature mostly pro-AGW material) there is another article on the media:
    “Climate Change Is Not Taken Seriously Because Media Is Not Highlighting Its Significance, Expert Says”
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090225073213.htm
    Possibly the one you featured Anthony, is a “token” to show balance?
    Doug Ferguson
    Mankato, MN

  10. “places the emphasis on the heroic efforts of abstract and distant individuals whose motives are not always clear”.
    This evidently refers to NGOs that play a main role on these matters, so the problem is greater as far as “doom” or, more generally, scandal sells, but to those cases where the media is actually paid by NGOs, journalists belonging to NGOs payroll, or NGOs directly being the owners of media.

  11. If I was a reporter I would never get the story from a guy dressed in a polar bear costume. Obviously, that guy has no clue that the polar bear population is doing better than ever.
    This morning, on the radio (radio-canada), the first piece of news was about the RETURN of EL NINO (or “Enano Nino” – http://pichicola.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/enano.jpg for D. King) but they never said anything about the frost in PEI or all those other places with unusual cold weather. Pathetic!

  12. One can yell “Fire” just so many times until it gets boring and no one cares anymore especially if the fire happens to be a small camp fire rather than an enormous inferno.
    i sure hope the “fire” we’re seeing here in Texas abates soon! i can hardly bear the thought of August after a June and July like we’ve had!

  13. Back when I was in journalism classes in college I was told “Dog bites man is not news, but man bites dog is.”
    What that means is that stories saying the climate changes, just like it always has, and there are few if any indicators of human caused influences on it are not news. But Gore,because of his public stature (which is getting bigger all the time) and Hansen with his NASA (the rocket guys) credentials make news by opening their mouths.
    This study is not news because it tells us what we already know.
    Mike

  14. Pearland Aggie (09:18:58) : Pray Saint Gore. If he appears around temperatures will drop at least 50 degrees, for sure.

  15. “i can hardly bear the thought of August after a June and July like we’ve had!”
    not too different from every other june and july we’ve had. It comes down to rain each year – if we have a wet June, it’s pretty nice. If we’re dry, we fry. Now do you remember the summer of ’80? THAT was one for the record books!
    In Texas and most of the south, almost every high temp for the month of June was set in that infamous summer of ’80. nearly 30 years of supposed warming later, and we still haven’t got close to that one. Thank god!

  16. Pearland Aggie (09:16:27) :
    I fear the worst with those electric cars. We all know that now and then cell phones and laptops spontanously burst in flammes because of faulty batteries. The risk of combustion increases with the packing of more energy in smaller batteries. Is it going to be safe to park your electric car in a garage or close to your home? What about when you are actually driving the car or incolved in a crash?
    You can bet that the MSM won’t ask those questions anytime soon.

  17. Don’t forget that some media outlets have a vested interest in pushing this theme to promote their business connections. Case in point is NBC, MSNBC. Some of the most over-the-top coverage of climate change, anywhere in TV news, comes from Ann Thompson, their environmental correspondent. NBC is owned by GE, which has been pushing green technology in a major way in the last several years. I think this is the core of Immelt’s corporate strategy at GE.

  18. July 05, 2009
    History Unfolding
    Wil Wirtanen:
    Don’t think he is far off in his assessment.
    This is a must read. What a parallel he is describing. God help us.
    David Kaiser is a respected historian whose published works have covered a broad range of topics, from European Warfare to American League Baseball. Born in 1947, the son of a diplomat, Kaiser spent his childhood in three capital cities: Washington D.C., Albany, New York, and Dakar, Senegal. He attended Harvard University, graduating there in 1969 with a B.A. in history. He then spent several years more at Harvard, gaining a PhD in history, which he obtained in 1976. He served in the Army Reserve from 1970 to 1976.
    He is a professor in the Strategy and Policy Department of the United States Naval War College and has previously taught at Carnegie Mellon, Williams College and Harvard University . Kaiser’s latest book, The Road to Dallas, about the Kennedy assassination, was just published by Harvard University Press.
    Dr. David Kaiser
    History Unfolding
    I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.
    Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it.. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.
    We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?
    We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has “loaned” two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of “we the people,” who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.
    We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy.. Why?
    We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?
    We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?
    Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I know precisely what I am talking about) – the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten…And we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.
    And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska . All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)
    Mr. Obama’s winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?
    I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.
    This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.
    And that is only the beginning..
    As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s In those times, the “savior” was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative “losers” read it right now.
    And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his “brown shirts” would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did – regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand – the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,
    How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world. He did it with a compliant media – did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and …. . .. change. And the people surely got what they voted for.
    If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It’s all there in the history books.
    So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.
    Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.
    As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..
    I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.
    I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our vote in the next elections.
    David Kaiser
    Jamestown , Rhode Island
    United States

  19. “i sure hope the “fire” we’re seeing here in Texas abates soon! i can hardly bear the thought of August after a June and July like we’ve had!”
    Sorry, PA.
    Anecdotal and therefore meaningless.
    Andrew

  20. Dr. Hansen spoke in my hometown last night. Here are his comments in today’s Corvallis Gazette Times newspaper regarding the media’s treatment of the global warming issue:
    “News releases, he said, were tossed in the trash can or edited to make the issue seem less serious.” – Dr. James Hansen
    That’s not been impression of media coverage of this subject.
    Here’s a link to the full article:
    http://www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2009/07/10/news/community/3aaa04_climatechange071009.txt

  21. Thanks to NickB (08:12:03) for revealing that amongst other things, climate change and development is considered a gender issue by the University of East Anglia. The mind boggles at any causal links here – would anyone care to speculate?

  22. For a variety of reasons, I’ve been interviewed by the media many times. Several news print, one radio show, I’ve even been on a few TV shows. I was put through an intensive training program by one organization (I was on the board of directors) on how to deal with the media.
    The bottom line:
    The media comes in with a pre-written story in mind. Sometimes they may change a bit of it, but not often. The entire goal of interviewing someone is to create enough volume that they can edit it down to the story they want.
    For that reason, the training included how to ALWAYS stay “on topic” for what YOU wanted to communicate and NEVER “reflect” the leading question point of view of the media interviewer (since you know which soundbite will be cut…). It is harder than you might think.
    For example, if I were an oil driller doing an environmentally responsible drilling plan with 100% capture of all pollutants, I would only EVER say things like “We capture and treat all drilling effluents”. You would NEVER say “Yes, you are correct that most drilling operations release lots of pollutants, but we capture and treat all drilling effluents”. Since all that would be aired is Oil Driller Says: “most drilling operations release lots of pollutants”!!!
    If you are a normal human being, it is very hard not to “reflect” your opponents position prior to responding to it or for contrasting your position. It takes specific training and practice to never screw up and do it even when under the pressure of being on stage.
    FWIW, I now will not do any press interview at any time (unless, of course, someone wanted to pay me enough to do it… since it is work). The risk is just not worth it and the media experiences I’ve had have convinced me that you are just raw material for them to cut and paste into a “collage” of their preconceived story.
    There may have been “news” at one time, but now it’s all just “infotainment” (yes, that is the term of art used by the media to describe what they do on the ‘nightly news’…) Everything is “tabloid journalism” these days.

  23. OK, so this is off topic, but the google ad that popped for me with this article was for a book titled:
    “More than another warning: A user’s guide to a warmer world.”
    The best part was the caption below it which read “Now 35% off.” I wonder when that book will be on a fire sale at 90% off, or given away and burned to heat up our recently cooling world?

  24. Ron de Haan ~
    You are correct sir. Since the 1940’s the communists have plotted to take our liberties. In the 1950’s they started infiltrating government and the press. In the 1960s radical communist’s message was “don’t trust anyone over 30.”
    These radical communists are in power now. They plan to have their socialist utopia, envisioned for decades, implemented. Today’s communists are called liberals, progressives, and socialists. They have taken over the Democrat party, the press, and the “environmental movement.”
    You are not going nuts sir. You are witnessing a counter-revolution that wants to take our GOD given rights away by the denial of GOD. No God, no inalienable rights given to us by God.
    They are not called “Godless commies” for nothing. The lie of AGW is just a means to their stated ends and goals.

  25. Pearland Aggie (09:16:27) :
    “but, but, but…i thought those electric cars were the panacea!”
    Nope not a panacea. A panacea requires a pandemic (or something equally terrifying.) What we have is a naturally varying climate and an addiction to foreign oil @ $700B annually. The fix, is not rocket science. Transition to domestic energy resources. Cheapest resource immediately available? Electricity. Yes, 50% from coal (at present.) The Chevy Volt will go 40 miles on a single charge. Cost of that charge is about $1.50. GM research shows that 75% daily commutes in the U.S. are under 40 miles per day.
    This has nothing to do with AGW, climate or CO2. Just plain old fashioned common sense. Want to break addiction to foreign oil? Quit using it or replace it with domestic resources. U.S. generates 986k MW – nearly half unused overnight. Today, it’s all about Energy Independence. Like I said… It’s not rocket science.

  26. Peter Plail,
    I am just guessing here as to how gender issues relate to climate change, but it might be along the lines of Male = agression, raping of Mother earth, versus Female = nurturing. If so, then they should rewrite their entry requirements to serious scientists not welcome on this course.
    BTW, does passing this qual get you a job as an IPCC committee member? Might join myself then, if I am able to not vomit in the class.

  27. Ron de Haan (09:43:22) This is more probably a world conspiration than a local problem, as professor Kaiser tell us. However if it does not succeed in the most powerful country it will be easier to be defeated everywhere else, provided you do something about it.

  28. OSUprof: Was Hansen’s lecture announced in advance? Do we know where he will be next?

  29. Small point about Ron de Haan’s post re Dr. David Kaiser’s ‘History Unfolding’ – Winston Churchill never sat in the House of Lords; he was proud of being a commoner and member of the House of Commons, and later in life he had too much self-respect to accept a peerage.

  30. One problem with going en mass to electric vehicles. The bottleneck resource will then be lithium (for advanced batteries). We have enough for research, but mass deployment will require more than domestic sources can supply. Look up where the lithium resources are distributed.

  31. A couple of cultural notes:
    As many people may know, Nevada is Spanish for Snowed, so the second picture fits more with the name of the state. It reminds me of Greenland, It seems to me that the medieval explorers didn’t like Hansen’s hockey stick, or that they tried to fool us by giving funny names to the places they discovered.
    Las Vegas means “the river banks” and somehow it relates to the place where the survey was taken:

    Apart from this analysis, the researchers complemented this information with a survey carried out in Urdaibai the Basque Country.

    Urdaibai is Basque for pork river, (urdai = pork, ibai = river)
    BWT, my nick, Urederra, is also basque, It means fresh water, (ura = water, ederra = good) It is also a river that flows from the Spanish region of Navarre, not too far away from Urdaibai.

  32. Ron de Haan (09:43:22) :
    Ron,
    Last time I asked you why, you said population control. It appears
    that there is more to it than that. May I suggest it is boredom;
    people with too much time on their hands, no real direction, and
    the power or money to force a change. I think that’s why we don’t
    get the process. We are, for the most part, motivated to discover
    the unknown, to advance the society through advancements in
    technology and to make our collective situation better. They are
    motivated by self interest, power and the control of others. Kind of
    a gated community that has spilled over the gates. They are never
    honest in divulging their motivations, nor is honesty a particularly
    important trait to them. I have noticed that they will say or omit
    whatever is necessary to obtain their goal. I believe there must be a
    few in the media that have yet to succumb. Anyway, if nothing else,
    this should highlight the necessity and importance of history as field
    of study.
    Dave
    Ray (09:17:59) :
    Torturous!

  33. E.M.Smith (10:14:10) :
    “For a variety of reasons, I’ve been interviewed by the media many times (…) Everything is “tabloid journalism” these days.”
    I just want to say that I truly appreciated these comments and know exactly what you mean having had similar experiences as have some friends of mine a few years ago to whom I will send copies of your post, if you don’t mind. Your analysis of the situation is valid. A press release is important too and to go to an interview well prepared with a “press release” in your head.
    You are right, it certainly is hard to pull off.

  34. Ray (09:32:21) :
    very true, which is why we really need a quantum leap in battery technology.
    Indiana Bones (10:31:25) :
    I couldn’t agree more…
    Conservative&denialist (09:27:36) :
    LOL…i hear the Gore Effect is in full swing at his next appearance site!

  35. The real journalists that decided to uphold the profession are either dead, retired, working for the independant press or blogging.

  36. Campbell’s Condensed Cream of Crisis: Just add 1 can of FUD, stir while bringing to a boil.
    Sprinkle with panic Greens and serve.

  37. Regardless of the attribution of the Kaiser item, it seems to stand on it’s own merits. I’ve not researched all of the details mentioned in the piece, but most have been discussed at one time or another in the news, and on-line. The one part of it that disturbs me, is the obvious appeal to fear of the unknown.
    On the other hand, there are many well documented examples throughout history of entire civilizations essentially disappearing. The precise cause of those falls of empire are the subject of much debate, and range from environmental to religious. I would suggest, to anyone who may be interested, that a informative read is “Cannibals and Kings”, by Marvin Harris, a noted cultural anthropologist. It’s a discussion of human cultural evolution, and provides a framework in which to understand current events. As with most books, it is easily available from Amazon, and well worth the few $$ .

  38. April E. Coggins (11:12:31):
    Yes, Dr. Hansen’s lecture was announced in advance. I learned of his presentation via posters here on the campus that appeared a few weeks ago. His seminar was part of a conference that was held on the Oregon State University campus. It was a smallish turnout considering his influence in this field.
    I do not have any information about his next public appearance.

  39. Of course it’s now Climate Change instead of AGW.
    And it’s now G8 Pledge Drives instead of Cap & Trade.
    Pay no attention to the angry crowd wearing sweaters in July.

  40. Pearland Aggie (12:07:55) :
    Linda Nazar from the University of Waterloo, Ontario, might just be on the right path. http://news.therecord.com/article/542189
    I used to use her x-ray powder diffraction instrument when I did my PhD there (in the lab above). At the time she worked on polymer batteries, and I think she still does.
    The sudden dischare of energy in ALL energy storage systems was always and will always be a problem, it does not only apply to batteries. But the more energy you pack in smaller storage systems, the bigger the boom when it goes wrong… the best example is the hydrogen bomb…. lots of power in such small volume.

  41. “Vincent (10:48:23) :
    Peter Plail,
    I am just guessing here as to how gender issues relate to climate change, but it might be along the lines of Male = agression, raping of Mother earth, versus Female = nurturing. If so, then they should rewrite their entry requirements to serious scientists not welcome on this course.
    BTW, does passing this qual get you a job as an IPCC committee member? Might join myself then, if I am able to not vomit in the class”
    I have the dubious priviledge of teaching a little bit about environmental ethics and can back up the point about ‘man’ raping the earth as a main theme. Check out the main journal for an insight into how a lot of environmentalists think.
    http://www.cep.unt.edu/vol/vol30.html
    cheers David

  42. Telboy (11:17:26) :
    Small point about Ron de Haan’s post re Dr. David Kaiser’s ‘History Unfolding’ – Winston Churchill never sat in the House of Lords; he was proud of being a commoner and member of the House of Commons, and later in life he had too much self-respect to accept a peerage.
    Telboy,
    I have posted your remark at the site where I found the article.
    Thanks.

  43. The University of East Anglia – a disguised setting for Malcolm Bradbury’s ‘The History Man’. A novel that will tell you all you need to know about the amoral and unscrupulous methods of the leftwing intellegensia, to further their interests via non existent ‘issues’. Published 35 years ago but as true today as ever.

  44. Curiousgeorge (12:25:03) :
    Regardless of the attribution of the Kaiser item, it seems to stand on it’s own merits. I’ve not researched all of the details mentioned in the piece, but most have been discussed at one time or another in the news, and on-line. The one part of it that disturbs me, is the obvious appeal to fear of the unknown.
    On the other hand, there are many well documented examples throughout history of entire civilizations essentially disappearing. The precise cause of those falls of empire are the subject of much debate, and range from environmental to religious. I would suggest, to anyone who may be interested, that a informative read is “Cannibals and Kings”, by Marvin Harris, a noted cultural anthropologist. It’s a discussion of human cultural evolution, and provides a framework in which to understand current events. As with most books, it is easily available from Amazon, and well worth the few $$ .
    Curiousgeorge,
    I think the fear of the unknown future is not the point.
    It is the comparison between what happened in Germany and what happens now.
    One thing is for sure, the current forces in Government are not working on our behalf (the should be).
    They serve a totally different Agenda.
    I recently posted a link to an article which provides an anayses of the recent G8 meeting, published at Lubos Motls site: http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/07/g8-err-g7-ban-ice-ages-and-order-global.html
    It is worth reading.
    Although the they do not get to the essence of what really drives the decision making process it provides some strong indications what the consequences of the planned policies will be.
    Thanks for the book tip, I will try to get this title from the city library and read it.

  45. TomLama (10:30:40) :
    Ron de Haan ~
    You are correct sir. Since the 1940’s the communists have plotted to take our liberties. In the 1950’s they started infiltrating government and the press. In the 1960s radical communist’s message was “don’t trust anyone over 30.”
    These radical communists are in power now. They plan to have their socialist utopia, envisioned for decades, implemented. Today’s communists are called liberals, progressives, and socialists. They have taken over the Democrat party, the press, and the “environmental movement.”
    You are not going nuts sir. You are witnessing a counter-revolution that wants to take our GOD given rights away by the denial of GOD. No God, no inalienable rights given to us by God.
    They are not called “Godless commies” for nothing. The lie of AGW is just a means to their stated ends and goals.
    TomLama,
    If your conclusions are correct, we are at war now.

  46. Headline of the year to date: CAN BARACK OBAMA SAVE US FROM HELL? (apologies for the caps.)
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthcomment/geoffrey-lean/5789961/Can-Barack-Obama-save-us-from-hell.html
    Ron de Haan is right to keep pointing out the conspiracies and it mostly boils down to the UN, the NGO’s and the eco-billionaires: There is an
    interesting essay here: http://www.ecofascism.com/article18.html
    Waldheim’s Monster: United Nations’ Ecofascist Programme
    A brilliant analysis on the growth of the UN can be found here, ironically on a conspiracy web site.
    Global Governance: Why? How? When?
    http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Global_Governance_1.htm
    Then check out http://www.glogov.org, a grouping which includes Stern’s LSE, Schellnhuber’s Potsdam, reps from UEA etc. etc. This is a quick sample of papers:
    36. Regime Conflicts in Global Environmental Governance – A Framework for Analysis. By Fariborz Zelli. Global Governance Working Paper No 36. 2008.
    34. Fragmentation of Global Governance Architectures – The Case of Climate Policy. By Frank Biermann, Philipp Pattberg, Harro van Asselt, and Fariborz Zelli. Global Governance Working Paper No 34. 2007. (accepted for publication with Global Environmental Politics)
    33. Preparing for a Warmer World. Towards a Global Governance System to Protect Climate Refugees. By Frank Biermann and Ingrid Boas. A shorter version of this paper has been published in Environment, November-December 2008.
    32. Remapping Global Climate Governance: Fragmentation beyond the public/private divide. By Philipp Pattberg and Johannes Stripple/ Global Governance Working Paper No 32. 2007.
    But it is all about “The Science”, isn’t it?

  47. It really made me think of this:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/just-96-months-to-save-world-says-charles-1738049.html
    Increasingly irrelevant, facing the fact that his mother will not die in his lifetime so he will never be “king”, he’s trying to create some relevance for himself in his lifetime, clinging to the hope that if he can scare somebody, they might pay attention to him. Just like Hanson and Gore, and…well… the rest of the increasingly irrelevant mainstream media.
    Well, we are paying attention to them. And it is rather like paying attention the village idiot….

  48. Cronkite: “I think being a liberal, in the true sense, is being nondoctrinaire, nondogmatic, non-committed to a cause – but examining each case on its merits. Being left of center is another thing; it’s a political position. I think most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they’re not liberal, by my definition of it, then they can hardly be good newspapermen. If they’re preordained dogmatists for a cause, then they can’t be very good journalists; that is, if they carry it into their journalism.”

  49. Indiana Bones (10:31:25) :
    “The Chevy Volt will go 40 miles on a single charge. Cost of that charge is about $1.50.”
    This assumes no Taxman/Malarkey bill. Then it becomes windmill science– at 4 times the cost per kilowatt/hr.

  50. LarryD (11:19:32) :
    One problem with going en mass to electric vehicles. The bottleneck resource will then be lithium (for advanced batteries). We have enough for research, but mass deployment will require more than domestic sources can supply. Look up where the lithium resources are distributed.
    Yes, we will end up in Columbia thus changing dependence from resources from one dictatorship to the other.
    Electric cars based on the current battery technology will stay a niche market application.
    The technology is too expensive, not flexible and not redundant cold climates.
    I really think all suitable applications are already available.
    Golf buggies, electric bicycles, invalid buggies, all are in production for years now and no real innovation has taken place.
    We have sufficient fossil fuels available to last the next 150 years.
    We will make new inventions and find a viable alternative but not because Government says so.
    Whatever they put on the market by 2012, from Chevy Volt to Electric Mini, they won’t sell it in real numbers.
    So GM, BMW, Lotus, Toyota, Nissan/Renault, Tesla, Lightning, and all those other car producing opportunists, dream on.

  51. Sorry, basqueboy – Las vegas means the palms. Also lowlands or plains.
    I would use orilla for bank of a river

  52. Ron, thanks for the link. I’ll take a look. I do realize the point was the Nazi Germany comparison, although I think that is a somewhat overworked context, and ignores the longer view.
    Many words have been written about what motivates decision makers, but in my experience they are driven by the same thing as everyone else – that being self interest. Which is not the same thing as selfish interest btw, and is often subconsciously disguised as caring for their people. Noblese oblige if you will. They truly believe they know what is best for everyone. Which is the very thing that makes them so dangerous.
    In my reading and experience, most of history’s greatest rulers ( the great Khans, Caesars, Pharaohs, etc. ) truly believed that they had the interests of their tribe, clan, state, etc. at heart. Which also meant that those outside of their group suffered the consequences. I think this is also prevalent in today’s world. If you really listen to Obama and other contemporary leaders you can detect the same attitude, only differing in geographic and demographic scales.
    Practical evolution at work, since humanity as a species has no natural enemies other than each other (viruses excluded of course ).

  53. D. King (11:45:02) :
    Ron de Haan (09:43:22) :
    Ron,
    Last time I asked you why, you said population control. It appears
    that there is more to it than that. May I suggest it is boredom;
    people with too much time on their hands, no real direction, and
    the power or money to force a change. I think that’s why we don’t
    get the process. We are, for the most part, motivated to discover
    the unknown, to advance the society through advancements in
    technology and to make our collective situation better. They are
    motivated by self interest, power and the control of others. Kind of
    a gated community that has spilled over the gates. They are never
    honest in divulging their motivations, nor is honesty a particularly
    important trait to them. I have noticed that they will say or omit
    whatever is necessary to obtain their goal. I believe there must be a
    few in the media that have yet to succumb. Anyway, if nothing else,
    this should highlight the necessity and importance of history as field
    of study.
    Dave
    Ray (09:17:59) :
    Torturous!
    D.King,
    I think you overestimate the boredom aspect.
    People who are bored are no initiators.
    The are “followers”.
    The current clan of politicians, environmental groups, non profits, consulting organization, universities, all pulling the same plug on our economies are not bored.
    They are obsessed, indoctrinated, corrupt, deceitful and they don’t like people, the achievements of mankind or nature.
    They believe humanity is a threat for the future and they have to stop it’s development.
    That is where this is about.
    It’s a sick ideology.

  54. I am so tired of hearing the word green that I wish people would go to nazi.org to see EXACTLY what it means. Then maybe we’ll see the word dropped from the current newspeak, even by those socialist inclined journalists who are trying their hardest to feed a new political-religious system into the minds of our youth.

  55. Ron de Haan (14:20:34) :
    No matter what kind of innovations they do for electric cars, you still have to generate the electricity to charge the batteries.
    Ditto for hyrogen.
    The cars still need to be fueled, no matter if it’s a battery storing the power or a hydrogen cell holding the power.
    Unless we are about to turn into Morlocks, charging our batteries during the day and travelling at night, there’s not much point without more power sources.

  56. OSUprof (12:25:32) :
    Thank you. I live in Pullman, WA, home of WSU (Go Cougs) and I would really hate myself if Hansen came to lecture at the school and I didn’t show up. I looked around at WSU’s usual lecture announcements but I didn’t see anything.

  57. Ray (12:31:23) :
    Pearland Aggie (12:07:55) :
    Linda Nazar from the University of Waterloo, Ontario, might just be on the right path. http://news.therecord.com/article/542189
    I used to use her x-ray powder diffraction instrument when I did my PhD there (in the lab above). At the time she worked on polymer batteries, and I think she still does.
    The sudden dischare of energy in ALL energy storage systems was always and will always be a problem, it does not only apply to batteries. But the more energy you pack in smaller storage systems, the bigger the boom when it goes wrong… the best example is the hydrogen bomb…. lots of power in such small volume.
    Ray, thanks for the link.
    I try to track all kinds of technological developments including batteries for several years now.
    I have a whole collection of press releases that promise exciting new battery technology.
    Two years ago a press release was issued by a company stating they were on the brink of producing a battery with 10 fold capacity, three minutes charging time and unlimited discharge time, ideal for electric car propulsion.
    WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE FIRST BATTERY.
    All those companies, universities and even Government Labs. all are looking for development budgets.
    The final product that meets the specifications mentioned in the initial press release however never materialize.
    Sure, progress is made but high (er) capacity batteries come at a much higher price.
    Despite all the efforts and the incredible pressure from the producers of a.o., lab tops and cell phones producers for better batteries, I think the results are rather disappointing.
    My latest lap top can be operated for 8 hours but as soon as I use the wireless connection it is reduced to 3 hours.
    The big gain in battery endurance was made by new electronic components that use less energy rather than by new battery technology.
    And that is the reality of the day.

  58. Ron de Haan (14:50:45) :
    The current clan of politicians, environmental groups, non profits, consulting organization, universities, all pulling the same plug on our economies are not bored.
    They are obsessed, indoctrinated, corrupt, deceitful and they don’t like people, the achievements of mankind or nature.
    They believe humanity is a threat for the future and they have to stop it’s development.
    That is where this is about.
    It’s a sick ideology.
    —————-
    It all boils down to this pseudo science they all believe in – Eugenics. Oh, they beleive in humanity, but only certain kinds including theirs.

  59. Just in from Climate Depot:
    Gore: U.S. Climate Bill Will Help Bring About ‘Global Governance’
    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1893/Gore-US-Climate-Bill-Will-Help-Bring-About-Global-Governance
    “I bring you good news from the U.S., “Gore said on July 7, 2009 in Oxford at the Smith School World Forum on Enterprise and the Environment, sponsored by UK Times.
    Gore touted the Congressional climate bill, claiming it “will dramatically increase the prospects for success” in combating what he sees as the “crisis” of man-made global warming.
    “But it is the awareness itself that will drive the change and one of the ways it will drive the change is through global governance and global agreements.”

  60. OUR AUSTRALIAN FRIENDS DON’T TAKE IT ANY LONGER AND START TO PROTEST.
    Australians protest july 13th against Al Gore and Government Climate Policies:
    * Dedicated to expose the fallacy of Anthropogenic or man-made Global Warming (AGW)
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    +++ Join the educational protest against Al Gore on 13th July in Melbourne! +++
    Dear Fellow Australians
    “Scepticism is the highest of duties, and blind faith the one unpardonable sin.”
    So wrote Thomas Huxley, one of the great minds of the scientific age.
    Anthropogenic or man-made Global Warming (AGW) alarmism is the biggest con, fraud, hoax, swindle, deception and mass hysteria in the history of modern civilization, because climate changes naturally.
    The Climate Sceptics support all practical measures to prevent environmental degradation. We support the development of cleaner and more efficient sources of energy. Unfortunately governmental taxes to stop climate change are a colossal diversion of funds from core obligations, and Emission Trading Schemes (ETS) will do absolutely nothing for the Murray-Darling basin, the Great Barrier Reef, or land degradation – just as it will do absolutely nothing to stop climate change.
    The Climate Sceptics are here to demand rational debate and responsible leadership. We reject the extremist views that now threaten what Australians have sacrificed to achieve in living standards, rights and freedoms.
    If you want your own children and grandchildren to enjoy these values as you do, click here to join, and get in touch with your kindred spirits in your local area. There are a lot more of you than some might want you to discover.
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    President
    Leon and thousands of other Australian landholders have lost property rights due to the Kyoto protocol and other environmental laws.
    See a video explanation: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3
    http://www.climatesceptics.com.au/

  61. Without any comments:
    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1893/Gore-US-Climate-Bill-Will-Help-Bring-About-Global-Governance
    This is another indication that the UN initiated World Revolution is much more than a conspiracy theory. http://green-agenda.com and http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/
    I wonder how the Chinese and the Russians think about the idea of Global Governance.
    I think they love it as long as they are in power.
    Our politicians are really demented and we have to stop this charade.

  62. A reporter takes notes during a demonstration for the enforcement of the Kioto protocol in in Calgary (Canada). (Credit: ItzaFineDay (Creative Commons))
    I was shocked when I saw this graphic. I just hadn’t realised just how far North humans had migrated until I saw that poor girl in the red-jacket talking to a polar bear. If Global Warming continues to advance at this rate it can only be a matter of time before mankind reaches the North Pole!

  63. Ron de Haan (17:19:35) :
    “I think they love it as long as they are in power.”
    I think that’s what each player in the AGW scam is let to believe, with all that strange talk about leadership and what not.
    It’s more about power to control people than money relay ever noticed how Al’s eyes glaze over every time he does say control or leader in witch position he thinks he is in.

  64. David Corcoran (16:05:03) :
    Ray, speaking of Eugenics, you should read about our current Science Czar:
    Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet
    Thanks for the link David.
    This Holdren guy is a genuine SOB
    How is it possible we have this kind of lunatics in Government positions?
    The quotes made in the linked publication are absolute horror.
    I wonder if this guy got his education from Dr. Mengele.

  65. Someone asked about UEA’s inclusion of gender studies in their course on climate change. This is obviously a matter of language — ‘gender’ is a grammatical term which has become conflated with the word ‘sex’. Sex and temperature in reptiles is a vital study — see
    http://www.reptileconservation.org/ for more information.
    As an East Anglian I resent the idea that our major science institution would be so dim as to dilute an important course with sociological claptrap about ‘gender’ relationships in a warming world. They know that science is above such nonsense. They are also committed to free and open sharing of all their science, data and methods.
    And I am Marie of Romania.
    JF

  66. David Corcoran (16:05:03) :
    I read that link out of curiosity, and had a realization. The Chinese don’t trust global warming because of the drum beating on the population surge. They actually followed through and made people have only one child.

  67. There are a few salient points to make:
    1. Would you expect calm and reasoned analyses from hypochondriacs, those suffering from manic depression (journos) and those with egos larger than a whale’s penis (editors)?
    2. The whole thing is ‘shaping the market and shaping the products’. It’s a well known business tactic, perfectly legitimate if a genuine need has been identified (e.g. a new drug treatment for an incurable disease). It’s just that here, the market should be securing reliable affordable power for the forseeable future, not phantom scaremongering about climate (which is generally aiming to blind, not to inform).
    3. In capitalism, you only tell the truth when the opposition is dead and you will enjoy superprofits for decades. That’s reality…….so wait until the war for new market share is completed before you expect truth: we’ll all be long dead by then, I’m afraid……
    4. I’m coming increasingly to the conclusion that the traditional media is actually contributing significantly to ill-health. I’m seriously wondering about stopping worrying about news and finding a life where ‘news’ isn’t necessary. If enough of us do that, maybe news will return to reality?
    5. There seems a small possibility that our ‘energy guy’, Ed Miliband, may try some sensible sustainable energy projects, championing microgeneration locally. He’ll be fighting huge bureaucratic inertia. I truly wish him well – it’d be truly great for Britain to actually do something sensible for once……
    6. Whether we’ll also be doing CCS large scale I don’t know………R+D in the next economic cycle, me thinks……….

  68. I got a letter into our local newspaper in Wallowa County (The Chieftain). It provided the link to the House role call vote on the energy bill and my admonition of any politician, red, blue or multi-colored, who voted yes. It also stated that I would work to see that these politicians, whether they were from my state or not, were kicked out of office next election and that I would never again vote the “democratic ticket”. If there is one thing that will stop this madness, it is the idea that the party in power could very quickly lose that power.

  69. Ron de Haan (17:19:35) :
    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1893/Gore-US-Climate-Bill-Will-Help-Bring-About-Global-Governance
    This is another indication that the UN initiated World Revolution is much more than a conspiracy theory. http://green-age

    What this last link provides is an inconvenient list of those who should be prepared to answer for the damage AGW has inflicted. They need not answer queries about agenda – that is clear – they need to tell the world why they chose to fabricate a lie and destroy honest science (and scientists) on the way. They will need to answer. If only before the court of public opinion. But likely before a more ominous court.

  70. TomLama —
    During the 30’s & 40’s the communists took over most of the media and infilterated many parts of the federal government as well as much of the CIO unions. In the late 40’s I wa unable to work as an electrical engineer since I refused to join a union that supported the communist international org.
    OT—
    For years I considered the JackAss as the perfect symbol for the Democrat Party, but now I’m not too sure. The leadership, (to twist a book title) is “Not Stupid Just Evil”, so I would borrow an acronym from our friends “down under” and name them the “American RAT* Party”.
    * RAT = “Regulate And Tax” or “Ration And Tax”

  71. A Democratic representative from the I-5 Oregon corridor voted against the bill. Target individual people with a very sharp lazer beam. You will be far more effective than trying to use a broad soft paint brush. Get rid of the Democratic Party? Won’t happen. Vote out specific individuals and de-stablize the party? Very much could happen. And did. Just to the wrong party. And I am partly to blame for that.

  72. Pamela Gray (07:48:53) :
    It also stated that I would work to see that these politicians, whether they were from my state or not, were kicked out of office next election and that I would never again vote the “democratic ticket”.
    I’m with you on this issue. I faxed my reps stating that I would work ever hard to make sure they do not return to Washington if they voted for the Cap and Tax Bill. Mary Jo Kilroy voted for the Cap and Tax. I didn’t help send her to Washinton to be stupid.

  73. Returning to the topic…
    The man-in-the-street rarely stops to think too deeply about issues like global warming.
    He’s heard a barrage of propaganda – and if he lives in the UK, his children have been exposed to colossal volumes of propaganda in schools. He feels “there may be something in this”.
    So he’s already doing many of the gestures.
    Recycling bus tickets. Check.
    Sitting in the dark for an hour every year. Check.
    Tried some organic food and it was OK. Check.
    He’s doing these either because he believes in it all or because he wants a quiet life. And it’s not a big sacrifice.
    But in spite of doing all the right things, and his friends and neighbours are also all doing the right things, he hears every day that the problem is now worse than ever.
    So he tunes out.
    And if he stops to think he quickly realises that these gestures are not going to make any difference. If we really are going down the gurgler then drastic action is needed right now – not gestures and not conferences about conferences and reports about reports and vague plans for 2050.
    So he tunes out again.

  74. Here’s a story about how foreign lawyers use the media and environmental laws to game the international legal system: click

  75. Smokey (07:06:15) :
    Here’s a story about how foreign lawyers use the media and environmental laws to game the international legal system:
    Actually the case you link to conflicts the U.S. press. On one hand they love to slam international corps like Dole on pesticide and pollution issues. But they cannot afford to alienate their biggest advertisers. Looks like both sides have dirt all over them on this one. No doubt Nicaragua is tipping the scale. But Judge Chaney has a major problem with her reliance on secret/sealed testimony.
    Secret testimony in civil cases does not pass “rule of law” scrutiny anymore.

  76. July 13, 2009
    Laugh of the day
    “The days when science was blighted by a press interested only in “scare stories” are over, according to the Science Minister.
    Most coverage of science by the media is now balanced, accurate and engaging, Lord Drayson said. …
    In a debate staged at the World Conference of Science Journalists last week in London, Lord Drayson argued that the British media were the “best in the world” at covering science. …
    “Sensational science reporting is fine as long as it is accurate and it is good science,” he said. “We need good reporting that also transmits the ‘wow factor’ of science … We need a society that is awestruck by science, not dumbstruck by it.”
    Lord Drayson’s positive view was countered by John Martin, an expert in heart disease from University College London, who argued that the headlines and sensationalism in science journalism could have an “incredibly negative” effect.
    He told of having to inform 160 people who had written to him in the hope of getting treatment that their expectations had been “raised inappropriately” by press accounts of his work.
    Professor Martin argued that such sensationalism was the result of a “structural problem” in the media caused by profit motives driving the news agenda. He also accused some scientists of hyping their own stories to receive coverage.
    “I think scientists are driven to overexaggerate the possibilities and their results in order to get limited funding,” he said.” “Official: scientists no longer need fear the press” http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycode=407327&c=1

  77. I agree with you Wade. Bad news gets attention faster than good news. The Internet is a wonderful place; there are more objective and better news sources if people take time to find them. For every one bad printed article or TV news segment, there are dozens and probably hundreds circulating in the Internet thanks to social bookmarking sites.
    ASTM D6866

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