SEE UPDATE BELOW FROM MONCKTON
I’m out of the political loop, and have no way of judging the merit of the claim, so I’m just going to link to this story. If it is true, it shows just how bad the treatment of different viewpoints has become in Washington. Perhaps Lord Monckton can give a comment or two here to either bolster or refute this story.
Report: Democrats Refuse to Allow Skeptic to Testify Alongside Gore At Congressional Hearing
Thursday, April 23, 2009 By Marc Morano
‘House Democrats don’t want Gore humiliated’
Climate Depot Exclusive
Washington DC — UK’s Lord Christopher Monckton, a former science advisor to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, claimed House Democrats have refused to allow him to appear alongside former Vice President Al Gore at high profile global warming hearing on Friday April 24, 2009 at 10am in Washington. Monckton told Climate Depot that the Democrats rescinded his scheduled joint appearance at the House Energy and Commerce hearing on Friday. Monckton said he was informed that he would not be allowed to testify alongside Gore when his plane landed from England Thursday afternoon.
“The House Democrats don’t want Gore humiliated, so they slammed the door of the Capitol in my face,” Monckton told Climate Depot in an exclusive interview. “They are cowards.”
UPDATE 8:30PM PST Lord Monckton weighed in on this story in comments. I thank hi for his candor and for telling his story firsthand here. He writes:
Once again I’m most grateful to Anthony Watts and his hard-working team for their kindness in exposing the less than democratic tactics of the Obama Democrats. The story circulated by the indefatigable Marc Morano is – as one would expect – accurate in every particular.
Early this week the Democrats told the Republicans they would have a “celebrity witness” for this morning’s hearing on the Waxman/Markey Bill, but they would not say who. The Republicans immediately contacted me and asked if they could tell the Dems they too were putting forward an undisclosed celebrity witness – me.
When the Dems eventually revealed that their “celebrity” was Al Gore, the Republicans told them I was to testify at the same time. The Dems immediately refused to allow the Republicans their first choice of witness. By the time they had refused, my jet was already in the air from London and I did not get the message till I landed in the US.
At first the Dems tried to refuse the Republicans the chance to replace me with a witness more congenial to them, but eventually – after quite a shouting-match – they agreed to let Newt Gingrich testify. The former Speaker of the House gave one of his best performances.
I attended the session anyway, as a member of the public, and tried to shake hands with Gore when he arrived, but his cloud of staffers surrounded him and he visibly flinched when I called out a friendly “Hello” to him.
His testimony was as inaccurate as ever. He repeated many of the errors identified by the High Court in the UK. He appeared ill at ease and very tired – perhaps reflecting on the Rasmussen poll that shows a massive 13.5% swing against the bedwetters’ point of view in just one year.
My draft testimony will be posted at http://www.scienceandpublicpolicy.org shortly, together with a brief refutation of Gore’s latest errors.
Finally, I have never said what one of your less polite correspondents has said I said about HIV. However, in 1987, at the request of the earliest researchers into the disease, I wrote articles in journals on both sides of the Atlantic recommending that AIDS should be treated as a notifiable disease, just like any other fatal, incurable infection. Had that standard public-health measure been taken – immediate, compulsory, permanent, but humane isolation of the then rather few carriers – many of the 25 million (UNAIDS figures) who have died and the 40 million who are currently infected and heading for death would have been spared. Sometimes, unfashionable points of view are right, and sometimes ignoring them can be a matter of life and death.
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Fuelmaker,
Your post is interesting. Can you please be more specific in your search directions?
stun (09:14:41) :
“He has never seen a science course he couldn’t run away from. In college, he majored in his native language ”
“Wow, I didn’t realise that you can do a degree in bol**cks over there!”
Funniest thing I heard all week. And I really needed cheering up. Thank you stun, Anthony and all here whose good nature in the face of deception and deceit is a credit to you all. Still laughing.
They are so desperate right now that they are really going at it with the insults.
Next step for Gore is to drop on the floor, cry like a baby and kick his feet…
“Indiana Bones (11:46:49) :
…This committee now ruled by Dems is acting out of extreme cowardice. There can be no expectation of truthful findings if the Committee Chair refuses the testimony of competent witnesses. A joke. A clown jape. Hardly worthy of the invective “a kangaroo court!” I am ashamed to be from California.”
How can Waxman wax so eloquently against obvious scientific facts? Is he even approaching the mindset of the Ministry of Truth? Will this comedy of errors be allowed to continue?
Three questions… my answers…
1) The kindest answer… He is deluded.
2) Yes, he is.
3) Sadly, yes it will.
Of course Gore is so in a hurry to pass this bill, he wants to get all the credits for the temperature decrease that has been happening naturally… but in 5 to 10 years it will be so obvious that it was natural… but he will claim otherwise.
@ur momisugly Ron de Haan (11:42:23) :
The Dutch Flight-tax to force people to fly less is a shining example in how to turn your average population in to skeptics.
The gist of Gore’s response to the Congresswoman was basically, “How dare you ask me if I am profiting from my testimony. I give it all to charity.” You have to wonder how he managed to increase his net worth from a million or two in 2000 to a reported 100 million, now giving it all to a charitable non-profit? Isn’t Gore a recipient of charity disbursements?
Well, since the Dems blocked Monckton from testifying, the GOP replaced him with Newt Gingrich. His testimony is posted here:
http://newt.org/tabid/102/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4169/Default.aspx
I think he did a good job.
hunter-
I am hot on the trail of this and would welcome anything else you can find. The only detailed paper I have seen so far is this one.
http://www.friendsofscience.org/assets/files/documents/CO2%20Gas%20Analysis-Ernst-Georg%20Beck.pdf
I find it fascinating that the ambitious alarmists have gotten away with the manipulation of CO2 data. Of course it was harder to cover up the historical temperature manipulation and they got caught pretty quickly by McIntyre. CO2 is a lot harder to find good short term proxies for, so they thought they were safe.
I find it especially offensive that the statisticians (that call themselves scientists) ignore the real science starting from 150 years before that show elevational, diurnal, seasonal, decadal, and regional CO2 variations. It is not just expeditious t to splice ice core data with 500 year averaging and a low bias to modern intruments over a Hawaiin volcano, while ignoring previous intrument and wet chemistry data, it is FRAUD!!!!
This has just got to be the tackiest Congress of all time – they should have had the decency to rescind the invitation before Monckton left home! How embarrassing for the US!!!!!!!!!
Slightly OT: Here come the AGW lawsuits. The town of Kivalina in Alaska is attempting to sue the entire US energy industry for “damages” caused by global warming. Here is a copy of the complaint:
http://www.adn.com/static/adn/pdfs/Kivalina%20Complaint%20-%20Final.pdf
Read the whole thing. If this lawsuit is successful, it will really signal the beginning of the end of the US as we know it today…very frightening stuff.
I hope all of the AGW types out there realize the damage they are doing to society in the name of Global Warming. The political theater on Capitol Hill is just the tip of the iceberg…
The “smoking gun” that exposes the AGW hoax…is FUN
And..not surprisingly they don’ t like it.
The Polish Academy of Science is suggesting a multi-disciplinary approach to understanding climate. It is becoming skeptical of AGW theory…
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/Examiner-Opinion-Zone/Polish-Academy-of-Sciences-Questions-Gores-Man-Made-Global-Warming-Theory-43618922.html
Jim
Interesting Fuelmaker
I found this googling CO2 History
http://www.biomind.de/nogreenhouse/daten/AIGnewsNov06.pdf
Page 7 is interesting.
BTW there’s even a comment in the Kivalina complaint about us skeptics (p 47):
“191. The tactics employed in this campaign include the funding and use of “global warming skeptics,” i.e. professional scientific “experts” (many of whom are not atmospheric scientists) who regularly publish their marginal views expressing doubts about numerous aspects of climate change science in places like the Wall Street Journal editorial page but rarely, if ever, in peer-reviewed scientific journals. The skeptics are frequently quoted in newspapers such as the Washington Times and are offered up to numerous mainstream, unsuspecting, news outlets as scientific experts in order to sow doubt among the public about global warming.”
Here is what the Canadian national newspaper Globe and Mail editor video picks contain for today’s edition:
“Gore’s impassioned climate plea
AP Video – Friday, April 24, 2009 at 1:52 EDT
Former U.S. Vice-President urged lawmakers to overcome partisan differences and take action to reduce greenhouse gases, calling the climate issue the most important ever put before Congress”
The AGW propaganda is alive and well at Thomson-Reuters-CTVGlobemedia…
May AlGore be reduced to living in a single-wide mobile home without cable TV and air conditioning – in Florida. There should be consequences to fraud, and Algore is the champion of global warming fraud. The Environmental Protection Agency listing carbon dioxide as a pollutant is equally as fraudulent, and should be dealt with in the same way. In a lawsuit, both sides are capable of presenting all the evidence they need to convince a jury. I’d LOVE to see several tens of tons of evidence presented that anthropogenic global warming is a myth, and those pushing it are frauds. I don’t think anything less than a court of law would actually allow ALL the evidence to be presented. It’s obvious the Democratic Party isn’t interested.
JohnD (23:48:03) :
CO2wards
Timeless!
Joseph (12:44:09) :Well, since the Dems blocked Monckton from testifying, the GOP replaced him with Newt Gingrich. His testimony is posted here:
http://newt.org/tabid/102/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4169/Default.aspx
Newt certainly did his homework. I was impressed with his take on the complexity of the whole energy situation, even without sounding like a skeptic. Without the emotional theatrics of Gore and his ilk, he probably put everyone to sleep with his sound thinking.
The AGW lobby is funded by a network of funds and individuals having a net worth of more than 90 billion dollars. Many of the shell and front organizations funded by these political networks hire activists to blog and protest in favor of Gore and the AGW fraud. See craigslist for lucrative offers of paid employment to serve as green activists, writers, bloggers, filmmakers, and lobbyists. Scientific findings contrary to the message of Global Warming and Climate Change is quite unwelcome with these employers.
After reading Newt’s testimony, I was left with a distinct impression that he also does not understand the issues of AGW. I wish Anthony would make an attempt to contact Fox News and ask for an on air discussion of how CO2 is not the cause of global warming. At least a few million more people will hear the truth. Most people have no idea that a carbon tax is about to be laid upon them and what it will do to their lives.
Maybe Fox would give Monckton some decent air time if Anthony talked to them.
Rude; and crude; thaqt is how I would characterize the behavior of the US government in this instance; and I deliberately include both the Congress and the White House, because you can bet that President Obama put the Congress up to this.
The President has said he will not compromise on the CO2 tax; that after all is how he plans to fund his entire Marxist totalitarian agenda.
I watched some of these hearings over lunch on that boring network that shows these brainiacs droning on reading from a prepared script. I caught Walter Reuther’s dynastivc brat whining on behalf of the United Auto Workers, to get the taxpayers to bail out their golden parachute retirement club. He followed somebody from the auto dealers association; again whining because nobody is buying the junque cars Detroit builds.
Both of these guys were kissing the feet of the Congress, mentioning global warming at every available opportunity.
This has nothing to do with science; or the environment, or the Constitutional authorities of either the Congress or the white House.
Every day we hear pleas for “Bipartisanship”; what a joke; what an insult to the American Citizenry.
A congress that will allow No Republican to introduce ANY legislation; that will not allow a Republican to present a witness to the Congress.
Don’t bother me; my mind is made up; we are going to tax the people to pay for our slushfund largesse; and we aren’t going to let any facts get in the way of that program.
But the real Criminals, are the public media, who will let these buffoons in Washington do this to the American people; and never call for an acocunting of their behavior.
The United States Constitution authorizes the Congress to collect taxes (uniformly across the entire nation (not from just the rich States); and for the purpose of 1), paying the debts of the United States, and 2) to provide for the common defense and general welfare OF THE UNITED STATES.]
And not for anything else. And the “United States” is that political entity headquartered in Washington DC. it is not every tom, Dick, and Harry whose welfare is to be provided for with the taxes Congress is allowed to collect.
Nowhere is the Congress authorized to buy up companies; fund bankrupt Union pension funds, or involve itself in any energy or environmental business..
But let’s face it; if they will pass a multitrillion dollar unconstitutional spending spree, without ANYBODY ever reading one word of the bill; why would we expect them to let a British Viscount; with a good track record, address them on the false claims of that pied piper algore.
If you haven’t read Saul Alinski’s “Rules for Radicals”; then you haven’t a clue what the American Electoral College has turned loose on the American People.
George
Can someone please point me to a reasonable source for historical real-time CO2 concentrations? I have discovered that the E&E magazine is not so diligent. I still think that there is a pony in there somewhere. Any of the ocean records are useless for atmospheric CO2. Reading the attacks of the paper in Deltoid left me unconvinced. The major complaint was the impossibility of such large natural rises in CO2. It seems to me that undersea volcanoes could pump a whole lot of CO2 into the atmosphere while no one was looking.
Now that you are entangled in this GW business. How will you disentangle the tangle?
You are trapped in the climate cage, prisoners of Al´s will, subjected to his nightmarish allucinations, slaved by his dreams, driven by his desires…
Drowned under his imaginary tides, dried to the bones by his fantastic droughts, torn to small pieces by his most powerful hurricanes…appalled by his gutural voice… OMG!! You are really doomed!!
Oh, and another thing.
Even if the historical CO2 measurements were not directly comparable and may have been affected by local factors, I smell a big rat that ice data which has a low bias and averages over 500 years is the best that the modelers could do.