Image from WUWT reader “Boudu”
This QOTW is from Pen Hadow, leader of the now farcical Catlin Arctic Ice Survey:
“It’s never wise to imagine that either man or technology has the upper hand in the natural world.”
That’s probably the only true statement published from the expedition.
BTW I was planning on using Steve Keohane’s art this time, but his “tinypic” links expired. Steve if you want to submit again (or if anyone wishes to) I’ll be happy to use the artwork submissions posted here.
Robert Bateman (11:55:47) :
Carsten:
I have also done some histogram & image processing analysis on the April 6
2009 spot :
http://www.robertb.darkhorizons.org/DeepSolarMin2.htm
see bottom of page.
It probably did not last long enough to pass SIDC muster, which is 30 minutes of visibility. The visibility at 1.07 contrast is the troubling part.
I have serious doubts that it was visible to the eye, showing itself only upon image processing.
Who takes the image, and how long to process it?
Are not sunspots supposed to be physically visibile, and not just CCD detectable?
Is this a case of the observer being unsure but CCD aided?
It would be fair for both parties to tell the story, what really happened, and go from there.
I agree with you 100% But according to SIDC, are we ate 42 days or 24 days (as spaceweather.com claims)? It does not matter for the reality of things, but breaking records like we are doing now (if you disregard the Catania tiny tim) may be of some importance wrt. media.
I have observed sunspots myself, and I cannot see how that thing could have been visible to the naked eye or on projection. CCDs should not be used for this purpose if long term consistency of data has any meaning.
Thanks for the link.
I took my open water test for my PADI certification in 42F water wearing a wet suite. After approximately 30-40min., I was mild hypothermic with purple lips and almost no feeling in my arms and legs. It took at least an hour to properly warm up again. Some years later, I was on a dive in Lake Superior in 34F water in a dry suite, dive time was about 1.5hrs, result was just about the same. Of course, I don’t have a whole lot of natural insulation. But, I cannot imagine immersing in water at the Arctic. I would never make it (meat Popsicle).
Reply: I’ve been skinny dipping along the Antarctic Peninsula, but not for very long. Get your head under water. Then run screaming to shore. ~ charles the unfortunately well-insulated (it was not a pretty sight) moderator.
Charles, (in reply to Squidly (14:01:24) 🙂 that was WAY TOO MUCH information. In a desperate attempt to get that image out of my head, I clicked on “View Map” here:
http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/live_from_the_ice.aspx
What a strange map that is. The sea ice extent shown is quite small — I’m guessing it’s the 2007 minimum.
Once again, they present a misleading image. It looks like they started near the edge of the ice, when, in fact, the ice extends (at 100% coverage) out into the Bering Sea. Then they write about all this open water — giving the impression that the ice is vanishing, day-by-day.
They are the perfect representatives of the whole AGW fiasco. I can’t find a single deception-free thing from them.
It looks like the sea ice extent is the highest it’s been on this date for the years covered in the graph…
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/AMSRE_Sea_Ice_Extent.png
thanks..
Rereading their latest update, I don’t think they swam across the 40 and 10 metre stretches. They found refrozen areas that allowed them to cross the gaps.
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Robert Bateman (13:11:56) :
A wetsuit in that water sounds like an invitation to disaster. How’s about a dry suit? There is a big difference between a wet suit and a dry suit.
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This maybe what they are using
An immersion suit, or survival suit (or more specifically an immersion survival suit), is a special type of waterproof dry suit that protects the wearer from hypothermia from immersion in cold water, after abandoning a sinking or capsized vessel, especially in the open ocean. They usually have built-on feet (boots), and a hood, and either built-on gloves or watertight wrist seals.
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I can’t find the thread to post this, so OT here. It is reported that the most deadly fire during the recent Victorian bush fires in Australia was *deliberatley* started by someone from the CFA (Fire autority). Crazy…but as I said to mates, it was either someone like a “fireie” (CFA) or an environmentalist.
What I can tell you about local weather in Victoria and New South Wales in recent days is that, unusually, I had to buy a fleese jacket as it was *VERY COLD* in both states. Do you hear that Hansen?
May I inquire why you have pulled this post?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/19/the-role-of-carbon-dioxide-in-the-origin-of-hydrocarbons/
The Role of Carbon Dioxide in the Origin of Hydrocarbons
Posted: April 19th, 2009, 9:49pm CEST by wattsupwiththat
This essay was sent to me a couple of weeks ago, and I thought it was interesting. But it also goes against the grain of consensus on hydrocarbon formation. Not being a geologist, I can’t comment much on the validity of the idea, but since we have some geologists in our group, I’ll leave it […]
REPLY: The author’s email address bounced when I sent him a question, since i have no way to contact him to ask a question raised about the article, I cannot keep it published. – Anthony
kim (16:44:47) :
Rereading their latest update, I don’t think they swam across the 40 and 10 metre stretches. They found refrozen areas that allowed them to cross the gaps.
Kim, I swear that I’d read over the weekend that they’d actually donned their dry/wet suits and swama gap in the lead. Anyhow I’ve emailed the caitlin website last night to see if this was so, and how do they accomplish this feat with all that equipment needing to stay dry. Have’nt had a response yet, but we’ll see.
If you leave Nature do its thing and learn to adapt, then Humanity will be wiser. It’s trying to change the climate that is stupid.
Didn’t have time to read the other posts, so apologies to whomever might have already said this. It seems to me that belief in man-made GW is doing precisely what the quoted author is warning against. I wonder whether he sees the irony.
Bedava Film izle (15:01:42) :
“It looks like the sea ice extent is the highest it’s been on this date for the years covered in the graph…
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/AMSRE_Sea_Ice_Extent.png
thanks..”
Bedava, that’s only because Man Made Climate Change has altered the wind patterns established in 2007 so that ice is no longer being driven to warmer, southerly latitudes!
🙂