"The good news is, if this sucker blows, global warming is not going to be a problem. "

Some worrisome news from Greg Laden’s Science blog, also in the running for Best Science Blog

Note: Image below was not part of the original story

This images indicates Yellowstone earthquake from the past week. One of the most intense siesmic "swarms" in the national park's history has been shaking the north end of Yellowstone Lake. Since Dec. 26, 900 quakes, 111 measuring magnitude 2.0 to 3.9, have been recorded. Image by the U.S. Geological Survey.

Seismic Activity at Yellowstone by Greg Laden

You have already heard that there has been increased seismic activity at Yellowstone National Park over the last few days. Since December 26th, there have been several earthquakes a day, some jut over 3.0 magnitude, in the vicinity of the north side of Yellowstone’s lake. This is a seismically active region, but the level of earthquake activity being seen now is much greater than seen in perhaps decades (though the data are still not sufficiently analyzed to make positive comparisons yet).Volcano experts have absolutely no clue as to what this means. A major reason for virtually total uncertainty is that Yellowstone sits on top of a very large caldera of the type that is formed by a so-called “super volcano” and the last super volcano to erupt was a few years (like, 70 or so thousand years) before any seismic or other geological monitoring station were set up anywhere. Indeed, the first really serious data collection at Yellowstone began just over 30 years ago.

Anyway, I’ve got a few resources for you in case you want to explore this further. To begin with, I recommend a look at my earlier post on this matter:

The Yellowstone Problem

As you have surely heard, the Yellowstone Caldera … the place where Old Faithful and the Geyser Basin reside … has been undergoing increased “activity” including some earthquakes and a rising up of the land. Is this a big problem? Should the evacuate? Should those of us living only a few states away start wearing earplugs?

My sister, Elizabeth, publishes a newspaper in the vicinity of Yellowstone and they’ve got a very comprehensive piece on he caldera. In fact, my sister’s nickname is Caldera Girl. So she really knows her Calderas.

Tracking Changes in Yellowstone’s Restless Volcanic System

…Since the 1970s, scientists have tracked rapid uplift and subsidence of the ground and significant changes in hydrothermal features and earthquake activity. In 2001, the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory was created by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the University of Utah, and Yellowstone National Park to strengthen scientists’ ability to track activity that could result in hazardous seismic, hydrothermal, or volcanic events in the region…

Finally, we’ve got this somewhat hokey but still fun to watch movie of how we are all totally doomed (h/t Caldera Girl).

The good news is, if this sucker blows, global warming is not going to be a problem.

I am personally keeping close watch on the seismic activity in the area and if I see anything ominous I’ll let you know. As soon as I finish packing and driving about 2,000 miles to the south of here.

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crosspatch
January 9, 2009 7:42 pm

Karl, more reference for you:

The Sun is not exactly constant. After some hydrogen is used up at the center, the hydrogen fusion must proceed more vigorously to provide enough pressure, and the Sun becomes slightly more luminous with time . When the Sun was young 4x109years ago, the Sun was less luminous than now by 30%

A star spends most of its time getting brighter as it ages. The Earth is about 80% through its span of time where it will be a habitable place for life. It is probably much beyond that, maybe 95% through its span if time where it is a habitable place for life like us.

hotrod
January 9, 2009 7:51 pm

Thanks for pointing out that great typo courtesy of Hotrod.

I’m glad I injected some humor into your day!
😀
It was not intentional, (although a Freudian slip cannot be ruled out, being well within my normal typing error range). Sometimes my keyboard has a mind of its own, and the mind is frequently well ahead of where the fingers are typing. I am not used to posting a no-edit environment, and need to keep that in mind as I proof read my posts.
Larry

J.Hansford.
January 9, 2009 7:51 pm

Jokes aside…. It must be an interesting time for vulcanologist’s at the moment…. It’s not everyday that the site of ancient super volcano becomes peculiarly active…. And of course, after the 2004 tsunami, I don’t really count the probability of possibilities out anymore… as long as they are scientifically feasible that is. Catastrophic AGW is bizarre.. No science nor observation to back it up… But a super volcano… We’ve had ’em before, we can have ’em again.
It’d just be that we’d be the unluckiest generation around if it happened now, ’tis all.

crosspatch
January 9, 2009 8:17 pm

“It’s not everyday that the site of ancient super volcano becomes peculiarly active”
We have one in California that becomes active from time to time. We had a swarm of quakes there in the late 90’s. Long Valley caldera near Mammoth Lakes. There are a lot of hot springs in that area, too, and even an area where camping is not allowed because so much CO2 leaks out of the ground that it might kill anyone who decided to sleep on the ground in any kind of a depression. The CO2 level is so high in the soil that it has killed the trees in the area. I believe I read that the last time Long Valley erupted, it spread a layer of ash as far as Nebraska. It has erupted since with the Mono Craters, I think, being the latest eruption some 600 years ago.
We might be due for some fireworks there, too:

During the past 3,000 years the Mono-Inyo Craters have erupted at intervals of 700 to 250 years, the most recent eruptions being from Panum Crater and the Inyo Craters 500 to 600 years ago (Miller, 1985; Bursik and Sieh, 1986), and Paoha Island about 250 years ago (Stine, 1990)

VG
January 9, 2009 8:30 pm

VG (01:26:04) :
looks like NCEP has suddenly lost interest in comparing past snow cover LOL
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/snow/ anyone know why?

E.M.Smith
Editor
January 9, 2009 10:05 pm

While touring: http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/
I ended up at:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090107/oddities/france_weather_snow_offbeat
Europe seems to be getting walloped! And TWC is saying midwest to N.E. USA to get noze froze Real Soon Now…
Is there a canonical record of these ‘odd’ events anywhere? And has anyone bothered to notice the frequent ~20-30 year ago pattern in when last seen? Almost like it was a 30 year weather cycle…

Aviator
January 9, 2009 10:43 pm

E.M. Smith – …”And TWC is saying midwest to N.E. USA to get noze froze Real Soon Now…” Any chance it will hold until 20 January and cause a major freeze at the inauguration? Frostbite for the true believers would be an interesting diversion and perhaps lead to some realistic policies.

deadwood
January 9, 2009 11:33 pm

Crosspatch:
Mammoth Lakes Caldera is 6 miles in diameter while the Yellowstone Caldera is 45 miles across. Not at all in the same class.

crosspatch
January 10, 2009 12:12 am

“Almost like it was a 30 year weather cycle”
PDO

Pierre Gosselin
January 10, 2009 1:33 am

According to this German news report, in Spain it’s the coldest winter in 35 years.
http://klimakatastrophe.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/kaltester-winter-in-spanien-seit-35-jahren/

January 10, 2009 2:18 am

Just looked at the sun, and we have 4 or 5 modest spots in one group, and a real tight splortch on the magnetogram.
Fox News story on NASA report –
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478024,00.html
” … Obviously, the sun is Earth’s life blood,” said Richard Fisher, director of the Heliophysics division at NASA. “… it is vital that we better understand extreme space weather events caused by the sun’s activity.”
“Space weather can produce solar storm … extreme currents … disrupting … blackouts … [end of world, etc, etc],” the report states. “Severe space weather also produces solar energetic particles and the dislocation of the Earth’s radiation belts, which can damage satellites … ”
The race is on for better forecasting abilities, as the next peak in solar activity is expected to come around 2012.
While the sun is in a lull now, activity can flare up at any moment, and severe space weather — how severe, nobody knows — will ramp up a year or two before the peak. Some scientists expect the next peak to bring more severe events than other recent peaks.

Sorry, I can’t dwell on Jellystone; I have to worry about the sun, like, you know, 2012 is like tomorrow, just later.

SunSword
January 10, 2009 3:10 am

“A fake website bearing the USGS logo claims that an evacuation order has been issued for the park and surrounding area due to concern over the supervolcano erupting…” From here: Website Hoax

MA
January 10, 2009 4:25 am

Sorry if I’m just one of these evil sceptics that tries to calm down …serious things, but in an American lifetime the possibility that this will happen shold be 1/6000 if it happens every 600 000 years… Or? If it’s much more likely that this happens now, because it has not happen in a long time, let’s say 1 in 1000 during an Americans lifetime. But all Americans will not die from a super volcano. (The risk of dying may be 1 in 100 000.)
At the same time the risk to die in a car accident for a man/woman in the Western world should be approximately 1 in 500 (in Sweden) and probably 1 in 200 in Greece (although this isn’t destroy nature and force ppl from their homes).
Ah! Evil me (if the 1 in 1000 occurs).

William Teach
January 10, 2009 4:25 am

Somehow, this will all be blamed on Bush 😀

Peter
January 10, 2009 5:26 am

MA:

At the same time the risk to die in a car accident for a man/woman in the Western world should be approximately 1 in 500 (in Sweden) and probably 1 in 200 in Greece

Furthermore, your chance of dying from any cause within the next 70 years is approximately 1 in 1.
Doesn’t worry me in the slightest.

Peter
January 10, 2009 5:33 am

Stephen Schneider:

“We cannot pin down whether sea levels will rise a few feet or a few meters in the next century or two”; that there is a “potential for up to 7 meters of sea-level rise stored as ice on Greenland”

Then again, perhaps it will have the opposite effect.
The Earth’s crust is considerably thinner below the oceans than below land, so any extra weight of water in the oceans may depress the crust more than the equivalent weight of ice over land, and so lead to a drop in sea levels.

Frank Lansner
January 10, 2009 6:01 am

UAH jan 2009 for now seems to find jan 2008 level. Its not that likely (?) that this would hold the rest of the month as it would be the biggest fall in UAH global temperatures in one month for several years. But still, interesting to follow.
Graphic:
http://www.klimadebat.dk/forum/attachments/janfirst.gif
Source: http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/

January 10, 2009 6:33 am

And of course, after the 2004 tsunami, I don’t really count the probability of possibilities out anymore…
Just as a point of information, not trying to make any claims, but this event also occured at a time when the moon was full at the same time perigee occurred.
Dec 27 19:16 406487km Full+1d 4h

RICH
January 10, 2009 6:47 am

Let’s try a reverse form of psychology, to see if it helps our alarmist friends;
TEST:
Q) Why are polar bears endangered?
A) Because their population is increasing???
—————
Q) Why is CO2 a toxic pollutant?
A) Because it’s essential to life???
—————
Q) Why are glaciers retreating?
A) Because of 10,000 years of global warming???
—————
Q) Why will Florida soon be under water?
A) Because of 1-2 mm rise in sea level???
—————
Q) Why is warmth bad?
A) Because it sustains life???
(Note: Look inside an actual GREENhouse.)
—————
FAILURE.
Whenever you alarmists want to SNAP out of whatever trance you are in, please feel free to join the rest of us in reality.
CONCLUSION.
There is no impending climatic dooms day. You are sheep being tended to by deceptive and delusional shepherds. Man is {prophecizing} through the use of computers. Got that?
Instead of wasting hundreds of billions of $dollars in climate research, why don’t we spend the money on realtime pestilence… cancer and disease.
And the lunacy continues…

Douglas DC
January 10, 2009 7:04 am

I’ve done a lot of Snowpack surveys in that area as a Pilot, then fought several fires in
Yellowstone (after ’88 -I missed the big circus) also as a Tanker Pilot. Has anyone noted anything unusual around and in the lake like ah, a rise in temperature?Melting
snow and ice?…

Mike Bryant
January 10, 2009 7:13 am

WUWT and Climate Audit currently have about half the votes. Pharyngula, about half of what’s left. Real Climate is declining…
Don’t forget to vote…
I hope Hansen doesn’t get ahold of thos numbers.

Mike Bryant
January 10, 2009 7:50 am

Does anyone have any news about the glacier on Mt St. Helens?

January 10, 2009 7:52 am

Frank Lansner
WE know the reasons that Hansen wants to bolster the GISS figures, but how is he explaining ‘scientifically’ why his graphs are going in completely the opposite direction to everyone elses?
tonyB

Editor
January 10, 2009 9:48 am

Aviator (22:43:28) :

E.M. Smith – …”And TWC is saying midwest to N.E. USA to get noze froze Real Soon Now…” Any chance it will hold until 20 January and cause a major freeze at the inauguration? Frostbite for the true believers would be an interesting diversion and perhaps lead to some realistic policies.

It’s time to start the Inaugural Weather Watch. The GFS model for Jan 20 1200UTC (7 AM) at http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/images/gfs_ten_240m.gif shows temps near freezing and a coastal storm forming to the SW.
I don’t have time to dig deeper at the moment, but interested geeks can go to http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/model_m.shtml and click on the leftmost column on the 240 hour row.
Forecasts 10 days out are mostly fiction, so there will be lots to speculate over and argue about. 🙂

Tim Clark
January 10, 2009 9:51 am

I went on a Chevy Chase family vacation to Yellowstone in 2005. I had last been there in 1965 with my parents. After 40 years, what surprised me the most (outside of a lackluster morning glory pool and dry mudpots) was the absolute devastation of Mammoth Hot Springs by the large numbers of unrestrained elk invading the Springs. They were there as we toured and approached within ten feet of us. I asked the available Park Ranger why they didn’t do something about them. He said regulations prohibited them from interfering with the wildlife (shortened abridged version). Yellowstone National Park is in greater of being destroyed by environmental wackos with fuzzy notions of Yogi and Bubba than by vulcanism.