Only 18 percent of survey respondents strongly believe that climate change is real, human-caused and harmful.
Yes you read that correctly, it is all in this article on the Nature Conservancy webpage. And that goes along with what was discovered in June this year by the newspapers UK Guardian and Observer, which reported that:
The majority of the British public is still not convinced that climate change is caused by humans – and many others believe scientists are exaggerating the problem…
The Nature Conservancy story citing 18 percent, is citing the American Climate Values Survey (ACVS), conducted by the consulting group EcoAmerica It also found that political party affiliation is the single largest indicator as to whether people see climate change as a threat.
It seems it is all political, as there are some other fascinating tidbits. For example:
- Convinced it’s happening: 54 percent of Republicans, 90 percent of Democrats.
- Think that weather has gotten more severe: 44 percent of Republicans; 77 percent of Democrats.
- Noticed the climate changing: 54 percent of Republicans; 84 percent of Democrats.
- Trust Al Gore when he talks about global warming: 22 percent of Republicans; 71 percent of Democrats.
- Trust environmentalists who talk about global warming: 38 percent of Republicans; 71 percent of Democrats.
- Trust anyone who talks about global warming: 39 percent of Republicans; 75 percent of Democrats.
h/t to Tom Nelson
“Silent Majority”
hummmm
Dangerous concept.
Percentage of people who believe:
God 92%
Heaven 85%
Miracles 82%
Angels 78%
Hell 74%
The Devil 71%
Ghosts 34%
UFOs 34%
Astrology 29%
Reincarnation 25%
Witches 24%
Real, Harmful, Human-Caused Climate Change 18%
I guess the same 18% also believes in the boogeyman.
Consider me a skeptic to both parties.
So how does the thin ice from:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7692963.stm
correspond to “low-area” ice?
Well, it’s about time someone noticed that the majority of dems don’t believe that global warming is man-made and a serious threat. Hell, even ultra right-wing conservative farmers who are still looking for their slaves understand when global warming occurs. That’s when they are taking more trips to the bank to deposit money instead of going to the bank with hat in hand after their crop froze. I will capitulate that ultra left-wing greenies are a rather stupid narrow minded bunch. Bout as stupid and narrow minded as ultra right-wing wackos. We all have our burdens to bare. Wonder what kind of questions we could pose to these idiots that would allow us to see they are more alike than different. But just you wait, someone here will say that their fringe idiots are somehow smarter than my fringe idiots.
lucia (06:16:34) Have they invited a dog to speak? Woof!
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The US government is about to be taken over by a group 100% sold on catastrophic global warming. Hopefully snow at the World Series will make a few people think before they vote.
Pamela…give yourself a warm fuzzy…you nailed it…thanks for saying it so well…cdl
One alarmist with whom I argued kept saying that the 2008 cooling should not be considered because we are not at the end of the year yet. Using GISS data, the 2007 J-D average is 56.33. For 2008 to meet that, the average anomoly for Oct-Dec would have to be 106. It is now safe to say that 2008 is cooler than 2007. The probability of reaching such extreme record temperatures in light of a strengthening La Nina is remote. It would be the 18% diehard AGW believers that deny 2008 furthered the global cooling. — John M Reynolds
Pamela Gray (06:50:08) Here’s a good question for them: Why would you rather bare your burden than bear it?
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TerryBixler (22:13:16) :
“He will vote Obama to help his 401k, IRA and fix AGW as well.”
The Democrats have some great plans for 401(k)s: House Democrats contemplate abolishing 401(k)tax breaks http://www.investmentnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081012/REG/310139971
2008 has brought the second coldest NFL game and possibly the first snowed out World Series game in over 100 years. It brought the first snow to Baghdad in 100 years. Proof positive that global warming is spiraling out of control.
More evidence “global warming” is not now and never was about climate or science.
It is the manipulation of public opinion to achieve political aims.
Polls and “psychographic” studies such as these are analogous to military BDA – “Bomb Damage Assessment.” You can bomb a target until you think you’ve destroyed, but then you need to send in reconnaissance to determine how much actual damage you’ve done.
For the billions they’ve spent on the “global warming” bombing campaign, it appears they’ve only convinced the already-credulous.
Not to worry though. You don’t need a majority when you rule people “for their own good.”
Regulations, taxes, subsides, and the old standby, lawsuits, get the job done for a fanatical minority.
Well, I used to be a Republican, but now I claim to be a Libertarian. How many IQ points did I get for making the change?
My beliefs are similar to those of Dr Pielke Sr at ClimateScience.org. Yes, there is warming, and yes, some of it is human induced, but it is NOT all a result of human produced CO2. It has more to do with land use changes (irrigation, de-forrestation, UHI, etc.) than the relatively minuscule human CO2 contribution.
I won’t say that, Pamela. I just think there ought to be some effort to “see to our own houses.” It seems that the left fringe idiots have a lot more pull within their party than the right fringe idiots. Of the presidential candidates, who is more centrist? Even if the AGW whackos are in the minority, they seem to be pulling the strings. “Tolerance” shouldn’t extend so far that we can’t speak out against one type of whacko just because another type of whacko also exists.
The Nature Conservancy article just proves that all they care about is improving how they sell AGW ideology to “dumb” Americans who “still don’t get it”. Tie it in with jobs, clean environment, energy independence, all wrapped neatly in the American flag, and voila. It’s all about sleight of hand, and we are the marks. Hold onto your wallets, folks.
Dee Norris (06:18:40) :
@Pierre Gosselin (05:57:03) :
“Conferences cost money to attend and funding for AGW supporters far exceeds funding for AGW skeptics. We don’t all get to go to Bali.”
“The issue of international participation may very well be one of international researchers not being able to afford to attend the conference rather than the conference organizers not seeking international participation.”
If the UN was true to its charter, both sides of the GW/CC issue would be equally supported and the skeptics could hold their conferences in Bali. Only one side of the issue is supported by the UN (tax-payer money), so, the UN is more appropriately called the Unilateral Nations.
Classic taxation without representation.
My fringe’s better then your fringe!
My fringe’s better then your’s.
My fringe’s better cause he eats Kennel Ration.
My fringe’s better then your’s.
Good evening friends.
Leon Brozyna (21:08:16) :
That explains this new article in TIME:
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1853871,00.html
Leon,
In the very first sentence of the article you linked it states “… I come across a lot of scary facts, like the possibility that thawing permafrost in Siberia could release gigatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere…”
Doesn’t permafrost release methane (CH3) and not CO2. Not just “scary” facts but no facts at all. I wouldn’t use TIME or the NY Times to to soak up the methane from the bottom of a birdcage.
Here are some “facts” on methane and permafrost.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060907102808.htm
CO2 taxes and bottom up economics…followed by Revolution
The Global Cooling Deniers, that’s the best name for them.
The problem with being a Capitalist is no one likes what you believe.
Alas, it appears that our wallets may get a lot thinner in the coming years. We are promised new taxes (at least cap & trade), more spending and regulation. Big Al will make sure we see the light. That’s if McC wins.
As for Americans being less stupid, I point out that over half of us (self excluded) get some government subsidy. Social Security, welfare, direct paycheck, contracts, etc. So those folks aren’t about to bite the hand that feeds them. What Government wants, they’ll support.
Bashing Big Business has always been popular, whether they are exploiting the workers or trashing the environment.
Same song, second verse. Nothing to see, move along.
Well, no big surprise here. Most people I talk to are not very concerned about global warming (or cooling). The few who are do not put up much of an argument and would rather not talk about it.
Which leads me to ask. How does AGW get so much traction anyway?
This whole debate seems to be more political in ‘science’ than anything else. Most of it is spoon fed garbage given to us by the ‘unbiased media’.
So be GREEN everyone. Emit GREENhouse gases. You are helping the earth by doing so. But how much can a ‘trace’ amount really help anyway? Not much. FYI – it will still be a ‘trace’ once we burn the remaining 80% of our fossil fuel reserves.
Can we worry about more important things now?
Mike Bryant (06:45:34)
Where does Santa Claus rank on your list?
andyw35 (03:13:35)
So you bought a new car and went from well below the EU standard to above it and seem to think that is a well spent sterling? How much did your payments go up on the new car, how much more is the insurance?
So now tell the truth, how much did it cost to insulate? The Gov program is a rebate is it not? So you had to pay out of pocket.
How much is it saving you, 5% ?
Your sentiment is fine if you are doing OK in this Global Economic situation but many cannot afford the changes you advocate.
Just a comment, in the 80s I was in the energy conservation business, the bottom fell out when we updated all the old houses with owners that had the money to spend, there were industry and Gov incentives then too. New houses always get built with a better standard, existing houses get updated when sold as a matter of practice, since home sales are in the tank so is the Industry.
Green updates are unsustainable economics, lots of players making money for 5-6 years then going broke, been through it. Energy updates are a once or twice a generation expense.
For those of you who are “down-in-the-dump” over the prospects for AGW relief after the election next Tuesday, I can offer no hope.
Lunch-losing video: Gingrich and Pelosi tag-team for Al Gore
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/22/lunch-losing-video-gingrich-and-pelosi-tag-team-for-al-gore/
I sent an email to Newt asking why he had joined the Al Gore global warming scam. His return form email said that he wanted to be a part of the debate. For Newt the debate is not about AGW, but is about determining the best way to make We the People pay for our transgressions against Nature.