Mauna Loa CO2 January to July trend goes negative first time in history

RSS and UAH data for August comes out in the next day or so…it will be interesting to see if there is another drop. If the temp continues to fall, then this could be the begining of the end of AGW hoax.
An interesting note – imagine how much the CO2 level has ACTUALLY fallen – considering that human CO2 emissions are adding quite a bit of CO2 – the real decline of that natural background level must be quite significant.

Me no like.
Temperature changes PRECEDE atmospheric CO2 changes.
Anthony’s point…
“It may be an effect of increased ocean CO2 solubility due to the global cold snap we’ve been having the past few months”
is worrisome. If the recent “Failure to Warm,” i.e. cooling trend, is large enough affect mean atmospheric CO2 concentrations, the oceans may indeed have switched to their longer term cool phases, e.g. cold PDO & AMO.
At the same time, Solar Cycle 24 continues to sputter – that is, when it does ANYTHING at all.
Yesterday a BMR (bipolar magnetic region) emerged on the sun, with a Cycle 24 signature (leading negative polarity in the northern hemisphere).
It was fairly large and looked as though it had the potential to produce a sunspot.
Once again, within 24 hours, that potential had faded away, and the BMR continues to weaken without having produced a spot.
This same pattern seems to happen about every 2 to 3 weeks. Solar Cycle 24 just can’t seem to get ‘er done.
So whether cause and effect or coincidence, we seem to be already in a period of cold oceans and deep solar minimum, simultaneously.
This is not good.

Dee Norris (00:47:00) :
“It will be interesting to see if it drops below the Sept 2007 annual low (380.74) in a couple of months.
It if turns out that this is driven by the colder SST, it will help establish that the horse goes before the cart and that rising SST of the warm PDO phase drove the CO2 increase of the latter 20th Century.”
I wouldn’t expect it to actually drop below last years value. If you compare SST with growth rate of CO2 each year it correlate pretty ok. If you then make a diagram with SST on Y-axis and CO2 growth rate on X-axis it and make a linear trendline it will cross Y-axis at -0.3C roughly. That means IF the temperature is causing the whole CO2 raise, CO2 will stop raising when we reach a global temperature anomaly of rouglhy -0.3C, give or take some. I do not claim this is some peer reviewed sience but the correlation strikes you when you see it in a diagram.
When this year ends, if global temperatures stays at it’s current levels, I predict the CO2 raise for 2008 will be 1.4 +/-0.4 ppm.

Who is John Galt?

@Patrick Henery
100% correct.
It says a lot about society when science textbooks are written by Hollywood producers.

369.33 May, 1998
369.35 Feb, 2000
La Nina

380.42 Apr, 2004
379.70 Feb, 2005
La Nina
I think I’m seein a patturn, here

Lest anyone forget, the warming folks aren’t buying into the satellite data at all these days. They stick to the adjusted data. After all, appearance is everything.

Re statePoet1775 (01:28:02) :
According to sat data sea level has been flat or falling for the last couple of years
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Francois Ouellette (07:11:39) :
I believe the sat data is showing a “greening” which one would expect from an increase in CO2

Besides the oceans, the big CO2 sinks are plants.
The usual seasonal drop from May-June to September-October is the response of growing vegetation in the more-land-weighted northern hemisphere.
Maybe we are starting to see increased plant growth responding to more CO2. In fact, if we extend the trends, maybe plants will help start to stablize CO2 levels.
With these latest number, humans are adding about 8.0 billion tons of Carbon to the Carbon cycle each year right now and oceans and plants are sinking 6.0 to 8.0 billion tons of it.
Note: CO2 levels should increasing by about 4 ppm per year with the amount of CO2 we are adding each year. Plants and oceans were previously absorbing about half of that. Maybe it is higher now, enough to almost stabilize CO2 levels. Ahh, the negative feedbacks that are not supposed to exist.

I have never read such twadle. To add the measurment of one site for what is effectively one time (month) and draw any conclusion at all is as unscientific as one can get. There are all kinds of things that can be surmized from this, not the least of which is a change in the output of local volcanoes…
To put this information against significantly longer trends is nothing less than stupid.

John Galt is a male protagonist in ‘Atlas Shrugged’. “Who is John Galt?”, is an often poised question in the story.