Who knew? Rachel Carson – climate change expert

NOTE: For those of you who don’t know, Rachel Carson has often been hailed as the “mother of the environmental movement” due to her book, Silent Spring.  Before that book, she wrote another, The Sea Around Us, in which she proposes mechanisms for climate change.

The mechanisms she proposes are all natural, all cyclic variation. No human created chemical influence (CO2) is mentioned. I wonder what she’d say today? Would she flip-flop and go with the flow of the current CO2 movement?

From Ed Sanders website, with some slight editing for readability and removal of the maddening glowing red background. (h/t to Steve McIntyre for the link) – Anthony

UPDATE: I removed a sentence above, because it was spawning debate in an off-topic area that I don’t wish to go into. – Anthony


From the book, The Sea Around Us.

Copyright 1950, 1951, by Rachel Carson.

Reprinted by permission of Oxford- University Press, Inc.

The old-timers are right–winters aren’t what they were. And the reason may be gigantic tides deep under the sea that apparently change the climate of the whole earth.

The ocean comes alive in one of this year’s most fascinating books. This article is condensed from The Sea Around Us by Rachel Carson.  A lilelong student of nature, Miss Carson is editor-in-chief of the U. S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

Day by day and season by season, the ocean dominates the world’s climate. Can it also be an agent in bringing about the long-period swings of climatic change that we know have occurred throughout the long history of the earth-the alternating periods of heat and cold, of drought and flood? There is a fascinating theory that it can.

This theory links events in the deep, hidden places of the ocean with the cyclic changes of eliminate and their effects on human history. It was developed by the distinguished Swedish oceanographer, Otto Pettersson, whose almost century-long life closed in 1941.

To review the Pettersson theory is to review also a pageant of human history, of men and nations in the control of elemental forces whose nature they never understood and whose very existence they never recognized.

Pettersson’s work was perhaps a natural outcome of the circumstances of his life. He was born-as he died 93 years later-on the shores of the Baltic, a sea of complex and wonderful hydrography. In his laboratory atop a sheer cliff overlooking the deep waters of the Gulmarfiord, instruments recorded strange phenomena in the depths of this gateway to the Baltic. As the ocean water presses in toward that inland sea it dips down and lets the fresh surface water roll out above it; and at that deep level where salt and fresh water come into contact there is a sharp layer of discontinuity, like the surface film between water and air.

The Atlantic is slowly rising, and there’s enough water frozen in land ice to raise it 100 feet. If ALL that ice were to melt, which is unlikely, New York would be flooded as shown on the left.

Giant Waves Under the Sea

Each day Pettersson’s instruments revealed a strong, pulsing movement of that deep layer – the pressing inward of great submarine waves, of moving mountains of water. The movement was strongest every twelfth hour of the day, and between the 12-hour intervals it subsided. Pettersson soon established a link between these submarine waves and the daily tides. “Moon waves,” he called them, and as he measured their height and timed their pulsing beat through the months and years, their relation to the ever-changing cycles of the tides became crystal clear.

He had found that the submarine waves varied in height and power as the tide – producing power of the moon and sun varied. From astronomical calculations he learned that the tides must have been at their greatest strength during the closing centuries of the Middle Ages – those centuries when the Baltic herring fishery was flourishing. Then sun, moon and earth came into such a position at the time of the winter solstice that they exerted the greatest possible attracting force upon the sea. Only about every 18 centuries do the heavenly ‘bodies assume this particular relation. But in that period of the Middle Ages, the great underwater waves pressed with unusual force into the narrow passages to the Baltic, and with the “water mountains” went the herring shoals. Later, when the tides became weaker, the herring remained outside the Baltic, in the North Sea.

Then Pettersson realized another fact of extreme significance – that those centuries of great tides had been a period of “startling and unusual occurrences” in the world of nature. Polar ice blocked much of the North Atlantic. The coasts of the North Sea and the Baltic were laid waste by violent storm floods. The winters were of “unexampled severity” and in consequence of the climatic rigors political and economic catastrophes occurred all over the populated regions of the earth. Could there be a connection between these events and those moving mountains of unseen water? Could the deep tides affect the lives of men as well as of herring?

Tides Affect Climate

Marshaling scientific, historic and literary evidence, he showed that there are alternating periods of mild and severe climates which correspond to the long-period cycles of the oceanic tides. The world’s most recent period of maximum tides, and most rigorous climate, occurred about 1488, its effect being felt, however, for several centuries before and after that year. The minimum tidal effect prevailed about A.D. 550, and it will occur again about the year 2400. Surface waves are mild compared to great submarine waves found at mouth of Baltic where salt water meets fresh. Such tide waves are thought to explain long-range climate changes.

During the latest period of benevolent climate, snow and ice were little known on the coast of Europe and in the seas about Iceland and Greenland. Then the Vikings sailed freely over northern seas, monks went back and forth between Ireland and “Thyle” or Iceland, and there was easy intercourse between Great Britain and the Scandinavian countries.

Storms and Floods Wreak Havoc

But these bland climatic conditions began to deteriorate in the thirteenth century. The seacoast of Holland was devastated by storm floods. Old Icelandic records say that, in the winters of the early 1300’s, packs of wolves crossed on the ice from Norway to Denmark. The entire Baltic froze over, forming a bridge of solid ice between Sweden and the Danish islands. Pedestrians and carriages crossed the frozen sea and hostelries were put up on the ice to accommodate them. The freezing of the Baltic seems to have shifted the course of storms originating in the low-pressure belt south of Iceland. In southern Europe, as a result, there were unusual storms, crop failures, famine and distress. Icelandic literature abounds in tales of volcanic eruptions and other violent natural catastrophes that occurred during the fourteenth century. Glaciers show effect of rising temperatures: they melt back faster than they are renewed by snow, so that they are shrinking. Many smaller ones have already disappeared.

All those ancient records of climatic variations seemed to Pettersson an indication that cyclic changes in the oceanic circulation of the Atlantic had occurred. Applying the discoveries in his laboratory on Gulmarfiord, he believed that the climatic changes were brought about as the tide-induced submarine waves disturbed the deep waters of polar seas. Although tidal movements are often weak at the surface of these seas, they set up strong pulsations at the submarine boundaries, where there is a layer of comparatively fresh, cold water lying upon a layer of salty, warmer water. Less ice is drifting down from the frozen top of the world, opening far northern seas to fisheries and navigation – all signs of the warming up of subarctic regions.

Warm Water Thaws lce

In the years or the centuries of strong tidal forces, unusual quantities of warm Atlantic water press into the Arctic Sea at deep levels, moving in under the ice. Then thousands of square miles of ice that norreally remain solidly frozen undergo partial thawing and break up. Drift ice, in extraordinary volume, enters the Labrador Current and is carried southward into the Atlantic. This changes the pattern of surface circulation, which is so intimately related to the winds, the rainfall and the air temperatures. For the drift ice then attacks the Gulf Stream south of Newfoundland and sends it on a more easterly course, deflecting the streams of warm surface water that usually bring a softening effect to the climate of Greenland, Iceland, Spitsbergen and northern Europe.

Although the really catastrophic disturbances of the polar region come only every 18 centuries, according to Pettersson, there are also rhythmically occurring periods that fall at varying intervals-for example, every nine, 18, or 86 years. These correspond to other tidal cycles. They produce climatic variations of shorter periods and of less drastic nature.

Fish Failed and Ships Sank

The year 1903, for instance, was memorable for its outbursts of polar ice in the Arctic and for the repercussions on Scandinavian fisheries. There was “a general failure of cod, herring .and other fish along the coast from Finmarken and Lofoten to the Skagerrak and Kattegat. The greater part of the Barents Sea was covered with pack ice up to May, the ice border approaching closer to the Murman and Finmarken coasts than ever before. Herds of arctic seals visited these coosts, and some species of the arctic whitefish extended their migrations to the Christiana Fiord and even entered into the Baltic.”

This outbreak of ice came in the year when earth, moon and sun were in a relative position that gives a secondary maximum of the tide-producing forces. The similar constellation of 1912 was another great ice year in the Labrador Current – a year that brought the disaster of the Titanic.

Now in our own lifetime we are witnessing a startling alteration of climate, and it is intriguing to apply Otto Pettersson’s ideas as a possible explanation.

It is now established beyond question that a definite change in the arctic climate set in about 1900, that it became astonishingly marked about 1980, and that it is now spreading into subarctic and temperate regions. The frigid top of the world is very clearly warming up.

Ships Sail Farther North

The trend toward a milder climate in the Arctic is perhaps most strikingly apparent in the greater ease of navigation in the North Atlantic and the Arctic Sea. In 1982, for example, the Knipowitsch sailed around Franz Josef Land for the first time in the history of arctic voyaging. And three years later the Russian ice-breaker Sadko went from the northern tip of Novaya Zemlya (Northern Land) to 82 degrees 41 minutes, north latitude – the northernmost point ever reached by a ship under its own power.

In 1940 the whole northern coast of Europe and Asia was remarkably free from ice during the summer months, and more than 100 vessels engaged in trade via the arctic routes. In 1942 a vessel unloaded supplies at the west Greenland port of Upernivik (latitude 72 degrees 43 minutes N) during Christmas week “in almost complete winter darkness.” During the Forties the season for shipping coal from West Spitsbergen ports lengthened to seven months, compared with three at the beginning of the century. The season when pack ice lies about Iceland became shorter by about two months than it was a century ago. Drift ice in the Russian sector of the Arctic Sea decreased by a million square kilometers between 1924 and 1944, and in the Laptev Sea two islands of fossil ice melted away completely, their position being marked by submarine shoals.

Birds and Fish Move Poleward

Activities in .the nonhuman world also reflect the warming of the Arctic – the changed habits and migrations of many fishes, birds, land mammals and whales.

Many new birds are appearing in far northern lands for the first time in our records. Some high-arctic forms, which thrive in cold climates, have shown their distaste for the warmer temperatures by visiting Greenland in decreasing numbers.

As the chill of the northern waters has abated and the fish have moved poleward, the fisheries around Iceland have expanded enormously, and it has become profitable for trawlers to push on to Bear Island, Spitsbergen and the Barents Sea. These waters now yield perhaps two billion pounds of cod a year – the largest catch of a single species by any fishery in the world. But its existence is tenuous. If the cycle turns the waters begin to chill, and the ice floes creep southward again, there is nothing man can do that will preserve the Arctic fishcries.

Glaciers Are Receding

The recession of the northern glaciers is going at such a rate that many smaller ones have already disappeared. If the present rate of melting continues others will soon follow them.

The melting away of the snow fields in the Opdal Mountains in Norway has exposed wooden – shafted arrows of a type used about A D. 400 to 500. This suggests that the snow cover in this region must now be less than it has been at any time within the past 1,400 to 1,500 years.

The glaciologist Hans Ahlmann reports that most Norwegian glaciers “are living only on their own mass without receiving any annual fiesh supply of snow”; that in the Alps there has been a general retreat and shrinkage of glaciers during the last decades, which became “catastrophic” in the summer of 1947, and that all glaciers around the North Atlantic coasts are shrinking. The most rapid recession of all is occurring in Alaska, where the Muir Glacier receded about 10 kilometers in 12 years.

The milder arctic and subarctic climate seems already to have resulted in longer growing seasons and better crops. The cultivation of oats has improved in Iceland. In Norway good seed years are now the rule rather than – the exception, and even in northern Scandinavia the trees have spread rapidly above their former timber lines, and both pine and spruce are making a quicker annual growth than they have for some time.

The World Is Warming Up

The countries where the most striking changes are taking place are those whose climate is most directly under the control the North Atlantic currents. Greenland, Iceland, Spitsbergen and all of northern Europe, as we have seen, experience heat and cold, drought and flood in accordance with the varying strength and warmth of the eastward – and northward – moving currents of the Atlantic.

It is interesting to calculate where our twentieth – century situation fits into the cosmic scheme of the shifting cycles of the tides. The great tides at the close of the Middle Ages, with their accompanying snow and ice, furious winds and inundating floods, are more than five centuries behind us. The era of weakest tidal movements, with a climate as benign as that of the early Middle Ages, is about four centuries ahead. We have therefore begun to move strongly into a period of warmer, milder weather. There will be fluctuations, as earth and sun and moon move through space and the tidal power waxes and wanes. But the long trend is toward a warmer earth; the pendulum is swinging.

Ed Sanders’ Comment:

If in fact the earth is getting warmer, I believe this is the explanation for it. Little we puny humans do will have much of an effect. Rachel Carson was the hero of the environmentalists, and perhaps rightly so back in the 60s. How about listening to her now? Or is the real agenda of the environmentalists to destroy the free enterprise system?

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Clark
July 25, 2008 11:47 am

I remember some serious “audits” of Carlson’s egg-thinning data that she claimed was caused by DDT, and the conclusion was that this claim was unsupportable. I think one should be very skeptical of anything she wrote. Looking through what’s posted above, I only see anecdotes and just-so statements, no actual science.

Richard deSousa
July 25, 2008 12:01 pm

I believe the oceans play a dominant role in shaping our climate. The energy carrying capacity of a liquid will trump a whimpy trace gas like CO2 any day. William Gray says it better than me:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/acvp/gray.htm

WWS.
July 25, 2008 12:33 pm

the cosmic answer to climate change is… A HERRING!!!

July 25, 2008 1:02 pm

I think that the reason for climate change is going to be debated for some time to come. The popular thought is to blame it on humans, is that the real cause..I don’t know…

July 25, 2008 1:06 pm

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Bill Marsh
July 25, 2008 1:17 pm

Clark,
It was misrepresentation of science (something like what goes on in Climate Science)
“Rachel Carson sounded the initial alarm against DDT, but represented the science of DDT erroneously in her 1962 book Silent Spring. Carson wrote “Dr. DeWitt’s now classic experiments [on quail and pheasants] have now established the fact that exposure to DDT, even when doing no observable harm to the birds, may seriously affect reproduction. Quail into whose diet DDT was introduced throughout the breeding season survived and even produced normal numbers of fertile eggs. But few of the eggs hatched.” DeWitt’s 1956 article (in Journal of Agriculture and Food Chemistry) actually yielded a very different conclusion. Quail were fed 200 parts per million of DDT in all of their food throughout the breeding season. DeWitt reports that 80% of their eggs hatched, compared with the “control”” birds which hatched 83.9% of their eggs. Carson also omitted mention of DeWitt’s report that “control” pheasants hatched only 57 percent of their eggs, while those that were fed high levels of DDT in all of their food for an entire year hatched more than 80% of their eggs. ”
“The environmental movement used DDT as a means to increase their power. Charles Wurster, chief scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund, commented, “If the environmentalists win on DDT, they will achieve a level of authority they have never had before.. In a sense, much more is at stake than DDT.””
http://www.junkscience.com/ddtfaq.htm#ref1

Burch Seymour
July 25, 2008 1:30 pm

A DDT/Malaria link:
http://www.junkscience.com/ddtfaq.htm
Off the climate topic, but referenced in the note for this posting.

Burch Seymour
July 25, 2008 1:31 pm

Bill beat me to the posting of link… D’Oh!!!

July 25, 2008 2:02 pm

I suppose humans are being blamed now, because there are more humans around than before. Advancements in technology and medicine have increased the world’s longevity (in general), which means we stick around on Earth much longer. xD
But are we to blame for the climate change? God knows…

July 25, 2008 2:05 pm

[adds nothing, not even humor, to the discussion~Charles the moderator]

Stan Williams
July 25, 2008 2:17 pm

Rachel Carson also said that DDT would cause cancer without supportive data. The link has never been proven. Banning DDT in Africa did more to promote the rise of malaria there since that people lost a weapon in the fight of malaria They didn’t spray it all over the place, but painted it on there door frames to keep the mosquitoes out. Dan Gardner, an Ottawa journalist has written about it here: http://www.dangardner.ca/Colmay2507.html
Today, there is also a report released done by “credible” climate scientists that climate change is going to cause all kinds of illness. The story is blow. Where do these people come from? Do they think that being alarmist is good science? Where is the data to back it up, or where is the data that proves the climate is changing at all? We have only the IMPRESSION that climate is changing becasue we have 24 hour weather news, satellites to track storms and weather by the second and a camcorders in the hands of millions of people. We didnt have that even 25 years ago. The only thing that is changing is our increased ability to OBSERVE and document climate.
Global warming has been happening for 18,000 years (in the latest glacial cycle) and so we should blame our caveman brothers for producing too much CO2?? It is just unimaginable how much science has been thrown out the window to form these climate change “ideas.” They should be relegated to the realm of science fiction! Think people, THINK!!
Expert warns about climate change health effects
Updated Fri. Jul. 25 2008 9:43 AM ET
CTV.ca News Staff
The federal government needs to put more resources into both preparing for and preventing the health effects of changing weather, says one of the authors of an as-yet-unreleased Health Canada report on climate change.
Nobel Prize-winning climate change scientist Gordon McBean told CTV’s Canada AM on Friday that the federal government needs to have a co-ordinated national warning system for potentially hazardous weather patterns such as extreme hot or cold temperatures.
“There’s a need for more warning systems,” McBean said. “We have heat alerts in some cities and not in others. I’d like to see some more national co-ordination and leadership on a warning system across the country that integrates all these things rather than having it piecemeal here and there.”
McBean, a professor at the University of Western Ontario, released his chapter of the report on climate change and health to The Canadian Press this week.
In the chapter, McBean warns that extreme weather conditions will put Canadians at greater risk of injuries, illness and mental-health problems related to stress, CP reported.
The chapter also says that the elderly and young children face the greatest risks for developing adverse health effects from climate change.
McBean said weather patterns can have devastating consequences on human beings, including a wide range of physical and mental illnesses and even death.
Events such as floods and tornados can not only kill or injure people, but they can also have long-term health effects, he said.
For example, major storms can contaminate water systems — such as the storm that led to Walkerton, Ont.’s E.coli outbreak in 2000. The outbreak killed seven people and made more than 2,000 others sick.
McBean also said that living through a terrifying event could cause psychological trauma.
He would like to see a system similar to those in some European countries, which post health advisories if weather conditions may trigger certain health problems, such as migraine or an asthma attack.
Quentin Chiotti of the environmental think-tank Pollution Probe collaborated on the report, and told CP that it is a “wake-up call . . . that climate change is going to have a significant impact on the health of Canadians.”
McBean released his chapter of the report, which was written by a number of leading scientists, to spur the government to take action now. He said he hopes the recent government announcement of new funds for infrastructure will include money to improve emergency preparedness.
He said that infrastructure needs to be able to “withstand the changing climate events” so people’s health is not impacted.
McBean said he began work on the report back in 2003 and completed most of his work in 2006.
At a press conference earlier this week, Health Minister Tony Clement was asked when the report might be released. Clement said that he hadn’t yet read it, but it would be released to the public after he reviews it and then develops any necessary policy recommendations based on the findings.

M. Jeff
July 25, 2008 2:28 pm

Bill Marsh (13:17:15) : “Quail were fed 200 parts per million of DDT in all of their food throughout the breeding season.”
For comparison purposes the FDA action level for DDT in eggs for human consumption is 0.5ppm and much lower for most other foods.
See: http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/fdaact.html#ddt

Gary Gulrud
July 25, 2008 3:00 pm

OT double pleasure:
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/UpdatetoIcecap23rdJuly2008.pdf
This is the end of GW, not to say AGW.
FreshBilge and Volcanism blogs have more such goodness, an imminent encore from Chaiten (tune unknown).

Patrick Hadley
July 25, 2008 4:33 pm

Tim Lambert has started many threads on his Deltoid blog trying to get Rachel Carson of the hook for starting very effective green campaign against all use of DDT. He has a real bee in his bonnet that in many countries DDT was not actually banned. As if it makes any difference to a poor family whether it is not illegal to use DDT if the governments and aid agencies had been persuaded by the green lobby not to provide it. Is someone on two dollars a day whose children are at risk of malaria supposed to buy DDT off the internet?
Some people on Deltoid even argue that Carson was not actually in favour of a ban on all use of DDT, but anyone who reads Silent Spring knows that is nonsense. Of course back in 1964 Carson could be forgiven in making an honest mistake, but it is a scandal that there are still millions suffering from malaria because the enviromental movement will not admit that she was wrong and support the use of DDT spraying inside the home

Dodgy Geezer
July 25, 2008 5:18 pm

Umm… this is an interesting essay, but it is not a scientific paper.
I think in the sceptic movement we are on stronger ground when we emulate Steve McIntyre and try to do ‘proper’ science. There have recently been several papers suggesting that oceanic cycles may be responsible for Earth temperature cycles – I would love to see these subjected to the same rigorous investigation that Steve has pioneered.
Science is in a dangerous state – it has become heavily politicised. The dark wing of climate science is spreading over many other areas – some leadership is needed. The Hockey Team would look at the heading of these papers – if it agreed with their hypothesis they would accept them without question; if it disagreed they would produce some reason to ignore them – a lack of ‘peer review’ perhaps.
What should happen is that constructive criticism should be applied, to papers on all sides of the argument. We should not pick papers which agree with our beliefs and praise them – this is climate science. Instead we should be looking for firm data, supporting those of us competent enough to write papers, and then examining them critically – not ‘believing that this is the explanation’ or ‘listening to Rachel Carson’….

Syl
July 25, 2008 6:00 pm

I found this a great read. I was Pettersson, contemplating Nature, the sea, and the tides from my perch on a high cliff overlooking the sea–then inside a cold room, pen in hand, writing my thoughts.
No matter what one thinks of Rachel Carson, she writes persuasively with good imagery. I do wonder about the edits or am I just confused? It says the book was copyright in 1950,51 so why is there a mention of something that occurred in 1980 and 1982?
But I always love to read older references to conditions occurring during the time of the LIA and MWP because today’s habit of rewriting history to fit an agenda makes me nuts. And it’s very compelling thinking about the conditions back then in terms of mariners, the sea, sea ice, and fisheries.
I know there is so much more written history about this area of the world during that time than there is about, say, California 1000 years ago. And the warmers know that too and take advantage by calling those climatic periods local rather than global. So they ignore the 1100 year old dead trees found well above the current treeline in the sierra nevadas. But when one attempts to rewrite history, it’s just so easy to get tripped up by little bitty details, isn’t it?
REPLY: It was “reissued” in 1982, see the Amazon link from the book title

Hew W
July 25, 2008 6:32 pm

The implication of this post is that it is a long quote from a book by Rachel Carson and from it I take the following quote:-
“It is now established beyond question that a definite change in the arctic climate set in about 1900, that it became astonishingly marked about 1980, and that it is now spreading into subarctic and temperate regions. The frigid top of the world is very clearly warming up.
Ships Sail Farther North
The trend toward a milder climate in the Arctic is perhaps most strikingly apparent in the greater ease of navigation in the North Atlantic and the Arctic Sea. In 1982, for example, the Knipowitsch sailed around Franz Josef Land for the first time in the history of arctic voyaging. And three years later the Russian ice-breaker Sadko went from the northern tip of Novaya Zemlya (Northern Land) to 82 degrees 41 minutes, north latitude – the northernmost point ever reached by a ship under its own power.”
Not bad for someone who died in 1964. Perhaps a better heading would be “Who knew? Rachel Carson – climate change expert and psychic”

crosspatch
July 25, 2008 6:34 pm

And all this time I thought compund interest was the cause of global warming.

Retired Engineer
July 25, 2008 6:44 pm

Something that has changed in recent years is the need to blame someone. Nothing happens by itself, or as a result of natural causes. Perhaps this is to to trial lawyers or a growing social insecurity. If we can place the blame, that removes uncertainty. It doesn’t matter if it has no basis in reality.
We saw something similar at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. There was a backlash, as many could not understand, nor accept the changes. Now we want security. The world is too complex for most. Blame it on education if you like. Our math and science performance is dismal. Touchy-feely subjects flourish. We don’t teach students to think, we teach them to conform.
I have no idea where this will lead, nor how to change direction. Without solid science, we will certainly make bad decisions. “Silent Spring” scared the daylights out of me 45 years ago. Al Gore tries to do the same today. If it takes another 45 years to defuse him, we may not have anything left at all. I’m not at an age where I want to live in the world the current crop of alarmists want to impose on me.
So, what should we do? How much of the world is already on the bandwagon?

July 25, 2008 7:01 pm

I encountered this curious reference googling Otto Petterson, whose name had been mentioned in another context. Petterson’s theories are referred to in two articles by Keeling and Whorf (that’s the Keeling of the CO2 measuements):
Keeling, Charles D. and T. P. Whorf. 1997. Possible forcing global temperature by oceanic tides. Proceedings, National Academy of Sciences of the United States. 94:8321-8328.
Keeling, Charles D. and Whorf, Timothy P.: 2000. The 1,800-year oceanic tidal cycle: A possible cause of rapid climate change . Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2000 April 11; 97(8): 3814–3819. Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego, La Jolla, CA 92093-0244.
Ynestad publishes on this sort of stuff – see bibliography http://ansatte.hials.no/hy/climate/litterature.htm
I have no opinion on this particular theory; I just thought it was intriguing to see Rachel Carson’s name turn up in this context.

Syl
July 25, 2008 7:10 pm

“REPLY: It was “reissued” in 1982, see the Amazon link from the book title”
Ah. Missed that. Thanks.
“In 1982, for example, the Knipowitsch sailed around Franz Josef Land for the first time in the history of arctic voyaging. And three years later the Russian ice-breaker Sadko went from the northern tip of Novaya Zemlya (Northern Land) to 82 degrees 41 minutes, north latitude – the northernmost point ever reached by a ship under its own power.”
But we know now that American subs surfaced at the North Pole even earlier in the 1950’s. I’m assuming that info was still classified at the time this part was added. Perhaps the Russian’s did too and didn’t tell anyone either. 🙂

Leon Brozyna
July 25, 2008 7:51 pm

After reading this, I am reminded of poor Alfred Wegener. That chap had it easy, it only took a few decades to locate the mechanism for continental drift and now plate tectonics is well established.
Now here we are, faced with yet another cyclic event used to postulate how climate changes. The question is, what’s the mechanism?
With all these cycles I keep reading about, I wonder, is there a commonality? Pity the poor climatologist. Peer pressure is great to latch onto CO2 as the forcing mechanism that’s responsible for the recent warming. It’s so simple; no need to look at tidal surges, solar variability, orbital mechanics, the alphabet soup of ocean events (PDO, AO, etc), cloud variations, Galactic Cosmic Rays, aerosols — and the list goes one.
Set ’em up Sam and keep ’em coming till my climatologist friend here is on the floor — he really needs it!

Pekkke
July 25, 2008 11:56 pm

Extract from a biography about Otto Pettersson.
http://ioc.unesco.org/icho/article/Svansson.pdf

July 26, 2008 2:23 am

Bill Marsh,
Junk Science gets the DeWitt stuff exactly wrong. As a general rule, you’d do well not to put credence in a site that advertises its work as junk.
Turns out that in DeWitt’s experiments, even the grain-eating birds that were fed DDT died in significant numbers. Of those that managed to lay eggs, most of the chicks died. Milloy cut the quote from Carson — DeWitt said that 80% of the eggs hatched in one group, but all the chicks died within a week.
Turns out that nothing Rachel Carson said about DDT and birds has ever proven to be in error. Discover magazine counted, and noted last November that more than 1,000 peer-reviewed studies had been done on the stuff Carson cited, all of them supporting her claims.
You can get the dope here:
http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/100-things-about-ddt-dissecting-10/
See especially the comments by Joshua Buhs, and a commenter named Soso.

July 26, 2008 2:26 am

Rachel Carson also said that DDT would cause cancer without supportive data.

Stan Williams, bet you can’t cite any page in Silent Spring that doesn’t have supportive data. Try it with your claim above.

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