BUMPED for visibility. Originally published on 6/24. Bumped on 6/28 and again on 6/30
This poll will gauge reader perception to the issue that Dr. Hansen of NASA has recently raised that I cover in my post here. One vote per computer, and please spread this permalink to the poll far and wide to get a good mix of input across the blogosphere.
Click on a dot, then click the little yellow vote icon. Poll closed.
I will run this poll 1 week until next Wednesday at 9AM PST, at which time it will close. The results will be submitted to a member of the U.S. Senate for distribution, NASA’s director, and will also be mailed to Dr. Hansen at NASA GISS.
You can subscribe to the results of this poll by RSS. Simply copy the link below into your RSS reader.
http://polldaddy.com/pollRSS.aspx?id=49940E93EC30ACAF
NOTE: A couple of Pro-Hansen sites have staged a “crash party” for this poll. This has accounted for a huge increase in the votes for the first question overnight. This sometimes happens with online polls when agenda driven activists decide to skew it, which is the biggest weakness of online polls.
Addendum: Some other sites that are not Pro Hansen have also now linked to this poll, so I suppose it is becoming a battle between opposing views now. Agenda driven activists on both sides are at work now.
Update 7/1 It appears that about 8000 votes were added for question 1 overnight. -Anthony
Update 7/2 9 AM PST Poll is closed, more here
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bigcityfib is another “progressive” type who is constantly outmatched by Kate.
You have to laugh at the AGW side if trying to stuff this poll is their big stand. Are they admitting that the debate isn’t over, hmmm?
Now that there apparently is a battle of the bands going on with this poll, it would be interesting to see how voting patterns changed over time based on timestamps of the votes. Sociologists love this kind of behavioral data.
Anthony notes:
“A couple of Pro-Hansen sites have staged a “crash party” for this poll.”
What a great hack to increase readership – The more acolytes sent by the priesthood means more people are reading your blog and getting the other sides of the story. With a little luck, you’ll get some more converts.
The poll was never up to standards of good political polling, probably not even up to that of bad political polling. (The University of NH was very good at getting the poll results they wanted and getting them on the the main TV station here.) I view polls like these mainly as entertainment, and this one just became more entertaining, and maybe more worthwhile.
Has the US Supreme Court found “drawing and quartering” to be cruel and unusual punishment? If not, it gets my vote.
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HEAT OF THE MOMENT
31,000 scientists reject ‘global warming’ agenda
‘Mr. Gore’s movie has claims no informed expert endorses’
All 31,000 ACCREDITED scientists have signed a petition.:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/2053842/Scientists-sign-petition-denying-man-made-global-warming.html
Hello again Anthony,
I’ll confess this up front, I’ve now voted twice, using the Google image page put up by Glenn. It’s not malice, I just wanted to check if this really did break the software.
I wasn’t familiar with PollDaddy’s security features, and I hadn’t come across it as serious polling software before. I’ve checked it out now, and PollDaddy seems to be a “just-for-fun” polling feature whose only discernible benefit is that it’s available for free on WordPress.
I’m afraid I have a criticism to put to you. If you’re planning to run a serious poll to submit to the U.S. Senate, the onus is on you to select the right tool for the job. Technical competence is an issue with these things.
REPLY: Unfortunately, the fact that the blog exists on WordPress.com limits my ability to place quite a few things. This is the only approved polling software they allow.
Why do people think that 12 people, who probably believe that Hollywood is the source of all wisdom on the planet, will do a better job of judging the facts, then they did in the OJ trial.,/i>
Yeah, Hollywood found OJ “guilty”.
RobJM, are you kidding or you just don’t know? Eli votes for kidding, the other choice is too depressing.
For those that think getting oil execs on trial would be a good thing …
clearly you don’t know how quickly litigation can become a train wreck. It is slow, cumbersome and expensive … precisely what busy productive people (like those running an oil company) don’t want or need to get entangled with. A perfect venue for useless opinionated people with nothing better or more productive to do with their time. And since the government has virtually unlimited legal resources to through at it … inherently one-sided, even against oil companies and their legal and financial resources.
It will become a battle of articulating a “crime” for something society has previously encouraged, deemd legal, and rewarded, fighting over whose experts are expert and in what area, what data is admissible and what is not. A court is not the best place to decide scientific facts … legal facts perhaps, but not scientific ones.
And that doesn’t even get in to the jury versus bench trial issue.
Whomever is put on trial has nothing to gain, and virtually everything to lose. Let’s put Hansen on trial instead. It would theoretically serve the same purpose. And I think it is much more apparent that he has overstepped his authority, violated his duties and responsibilities, and behaved in an unethical manner. (Even if he’s right about AGW, which I seriously doubt is the case.)
As stated, this is now battle of the blogs. As such, the outcome means about as much as who ends up being Homecoming Queen, for the same reasons.
to RobJM who said “if they refuse to consider the opposing views then they are not conducting science.”
No one on the AGW side is conducting science anymore. They are conducting religion with religious methods. As such, hoping that you could say or show them anything at all that would change their beliefs is futile. Convincing a muslim to become a baptist would be much, much easier.
Hansen is in gross violation of the Hatch Act. The only reason he hasn’t been fired is because of political cover from Gore and Soros.
Let’s call Hansen’s bluff. He needs to fold or show his cards.
Hansen needs to publish everything on the Internet. He’s a “public servant” so any work done while in government service belongs to the public. Publish his notes, journals, data, emails, source code, etc., etc. on the Internet and we can really determine if the science really supports his conclusions.
I highly suspect Hansen’s science is as weak or weaker than it appears to be. That’s why Hansen wants to silence his critics instead of engaging them.
Does anybody else suspect the man’s ego is the biggest part of him? He was on the forefront in the 1970s talking about the next ice age and within a few years he made himself a very public proponent of AGW. He also likes to claim censorship yet makes 100s of public interviews which are published world-wide.
Exactly. I would support putting Hansen on trial because it wouldn’t interfere with the economy and might improve the efficiency of NASA.
I don’t believe that anyone is free from investigation, however Congress is not a court of law. Congress should spend their timecoming up with ways to make the energy markets more competitive and finding solutions to future problems, rather than reacting to problems of the past. We need to move forward.
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They should just ignore him…and, in all reality, that’s the most probable outcome. Firing him or supportng him doesn’t really make any difference.
It’s the indifference that will make a difference.
It is really the PEOPLE who should be put on trial.
It is the 6.5 billion PEOPLE on the planet who are using and demanding the products that produce green house gases.
Now one could argue the people are being mislead that these products don’t produce green house gases or that green house gases are not a problem. But the people are being blasted every day by the horror stories surrounding global warming and are made to feel guilty on an hourly basis about green house gas pollution.
We should prosecute James Hansen for all the green house gases he personally emits every day (with the 60 mile commute he travels and all the air travel and the electricity his models consume every day and the amount of electricity his global warming horror stories consume every day across the planet. )
Hansen and Gore and some of the biggest emitters of anyone.
Anthony –
You know I love you – but web polls aren’t worth the electrons that distribute them. They’re fun, but like an amusement ride, they’re there for the thrills…
But now I’m getting motion sickness! 😉
Pro-Hansen’s are winning. LOL!
You shouldn’t post link embeded polls anymore Anthony. Think of all the traffic you could get!
Congress should spend their time coming up with ways to make the energy markets more competitive and finding solutions to future problems, rather than reacting to problems of the past. We need to move forward.
Well, the best way I can think of if for Congress to get the heck out of the way and let the private sector do its stuff.
That’s the way to move forward. It’s worked every time it’s been tried.
Anthony, I think you should delete the poll. It’s obvious people can vote more than once and the results will be used to further the Hansen cause.
This ‘poll’ needs visibility? It looks like Hansen’s supporters have no problem finding it.
I happened to check on the numbers yesterday while there was another surge in voting happening. It was unbelievable – how can anyone keep punching in 20-30 votes a minute? Now that’s putting faith-based action on a whole new level.
I see Hansen as a Pied Piper of arrogant scientists who think they know enough about reality to leap to conclusions. At least that is my hope.
I saw this poll last week and “Fire Hansen” barely led “Congress Ignore”. “Charge Oil Execs” didn’t register.
So, the lesson here? Climate realists don’t cheat well.
Anthony.
Next time you post such a poll, you should find a programmer that would program you a special script: to answer the poll, someone should be able to answer a few climatology-101 questions. People who fail should be refused to access to the poll.
Questions should be fished out of a databank of easy climatological questions so that answers could not be memorized by activist morons.