More Carbon Dioxide, Please

From the National Review I don’t don’t know about you, but I’m going to crack open a lovely carbonated beverage and raise it in salute to Roy for having the courage to say this. Salud! (burp).

By Dr. Roy W. Spencer

There seems to be an unwritten assumption among environmentalists — and among the media — that any influence humans have on nature is, by definition, bad. I even see it in scientific papers written by climate researchers. For instance, if we can measure some minute amount of a trace gas in the atmosphere at the South Pole, well removed from its human source, we are astonished at the far-reaching effects of mankind’s “pollution.”But if nature was left undisturbed, would it be any happier and more peaceful? Would the carnivores stop eating those poor, defenseless herbivores, as well as each other? Would fish and other kinds of sea life stop infringing on the rights of others by feasting on them? Would there be no more droughts, hurricanes, floods, heat waves, tornadoes, or glaciers flowing toward the sea?

 

In the case of global warming, the alleged culprit — carbon dioxide — just happens to be necessary for life on Earth. How can Al Gore say with a straight face that we are treating the atmosphere like an “open sewer” by dumping carbon dioxide into it? Would he say the same thing if we were dumping more oxygen into the atmosphere? Or more nitrogen?As a climate researcher, I am increasingly convinced that most of our recent global warming has been natural, not manmade. If true, this would mean that global temperatures can be expected to peak in the coming years (if they haven’t already), and global cooling will eventually ensue.Just for the sake of argument, let us assume that manmade global warming really is a false alarm. In that case, we would still need to ask: What are the other negative effects of pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere?Well, plant physiologists have known for a long time that most vegetation loves more carbon dioxide. It grows faster, is more drought-tolerant, and is more efficient in its water use. While the pre-industrial CO2 concentration of the atmosphere was only about 280 parts per million (ppm) by volume, and now it is around 380 ppm, some greenhouses pump it all the way up to around 1,000 ppm. How can environmentalists claim that helping vegetation to grow is a bad thing?The bigger concern has been the possible effect of the extra CO2 on the world’s oceans, because more CO2 lowers the pH of seawater. While it is claimed that this makes the water more acidic, this is misleading. Since seawater has a pH around 8.1, it will take an awful lot of CO2 it to even make the water neutral (pH=7), let alone acidic (pH less than 7).Still, the main worry has been that the extra CO2 could hurt the growth of plankton, which represents the start of the oceanic food chain. But recent research (published on April 18 in Science Express) has now shown, contrary to expectations, that one of the most common forms of plankton actually grows faster and bigger when more CO2 is pumped into the water. Like vegetation on land, it loves the extra CO2, too!It is quite possible that the biosphere (vegetation, sea life, etc.) has been starved for atmospheric CO2. Before humans started burning fossil fuels, vegetation and ocean plankton had been gobbling up as much CO2 out of the atmosphere as they could, but it was like a vacuum cleaner trying to suck through a stopped-up hose.Now, no matter how much CO2 we pump into the atmosphere each year, the biosphere takes out an average of 50 percent of that extra amount. Even after we triple the amount of CO2 we produce, nature still takes out 50 percent of the extra amount. Climate Confusion: How Global Warming Hysteria Leads to Bad Science, Pandering Politicians, and Misguided Policies that Hurt the Poor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think it is time for scientists to consider the possibility that more CO2 in the atmosphere might, on the whole, be good for life on Earth. Oh, I’m sure there will be some species which are hurt more than helped, but this is true of any change in nature. There are always winners and losers.For instance, during a strong El Nino event, trillions of animals in the ocean die as the usual patterns of ocean temperature are disrupted. When Mother Nature does something like this it is considered natural. Yet, if humans were to do such a thing, it would be considered an environmental catastrophe. Does anyone else see something wrong with this picture?The view that nature was in some sort of preferred, yet fragile, state of balance before humans came along is arbitrary and philosophical — even religious. It is entirely possible that there are other, more preferable states of balance in nature which are more robust and less fragile than whatever the state of nature was before we came along.You would think that science is the last place you would find such religious opinions, yet they dominate the worldview of scientists. Natural scientists tend to worship nature, and they then teach others to worship nature, too… all under the guise of “science.”

 

 

 

And to the extent that this view is religious, then making environmental laws based upon that view could be considered a violation of the establishment of religion clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution.

The automatic assumption that mankind’s production of CO2 by burning of fossil fuels is bad for the environment needs to be critically examined. Unfortunately, scientists who question that point of view are immediately branded as shills for Big Oil.

But since I am already accused of this (falsely, I might add), I really don’t mind being one of the first scientists to raise the issue.

— Dr. Roy W. Spencer is a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. He is author of the new book,

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Jack Walker
May 1, 2008 5:56 pm

Thank you Dr Roy et al, I have been a fan of beer for a long time and now everything makes sense, I like cold beer because it retains it’s co2, I like the beach because the sea is like beer full of co2, I hate the desert because it’s too hot and does not retain co2 or beer..
I knew it the eco freak nazis are attacking beer (by the way I like trees and am a bit green, especially if I have too much beer, trees are very usefull for having a beer under on a hot day). Actually there is nothing better than beer and nature and all of it’s glory.
I knew if I hung around here long enough, I’d get educated.

May 1, 2008 5:56 pm

I drank 8 Bud Lites last nite, all of them really bubbly and just loaded with CO2!
Does that make me a bad person?

No, it just means you have no taste!!! 🙂

Evan Jones
Editor
May 1, 2008 6:20 pm

Surely the CO2 content of the oceans is affected by the temperature of the oceans much more than how much CO2 we release into the atmosphere. The warmer the oceans the less CO2 and vice versa. (Or the warmer the beer, the flatter it gets.)
I hate to disagree, but I must, I must.
Yes, CO2 is more soluble in water, the colder it gets, but the swing is (so far as we can measure by proxy) only c. 10 ppm per degree Celsius.
Industry puts out c. 6.5 BMTC (bil. Metric Tons Carbon)/year via industry. Ocean and land absorbs about half of that.
There is a much larger exchange back and forth between land-atmosphere and sea-atmosphere. But those exchanges result in more carbon absorption than output (even our agriculture). In all, c. 3.2 more BMTC/year is absorbed from the atmosphere than exuded by soil and sea.
Total atmospheric sink contains c. 750 BMTC. So, yes, atmospheric carbon has been rising by half a percent or so per year (assuming the measurements are correct).
My own belief is that Atmospheric carbon does indeed cause a (very) slight temperature increase, but the IPCC positive feed back presumption is all to hell (as revealed by the Aqua Satellite), so it carbon emissions don’t matter worth a damn.

Evan Jones
Editor
May 1, 2008 6:25 pm

I drank 8 Bud Lites last nite, all of them really bubbly and just loaded with CO2!
Does that make me a bad person?

BUD LIGHT?!
BAD person! ( rolling up newspaper) *WHACK*
BAD! BAD!
(But no value judgement.)

Evan Jones
Editor
May 1, 2008 6:26 pm

save the world, pls
Well, okay. But we’ll have to work it into our schedule.

Tom in Florida
May 1, 2008 7:56 pm

Evan: “Industry puts out c. 6.5 BMTC (bil. Metric Tons Carbon)/year ”
Can someone put that as a ratio to the total BMT of the entire atmosphere. Is this significant or just a truck load of sand in the Sahara?

Tom in Florida
May 1, 2008 8:15 pm

Thoughts from a layman:
Scenario 1: Suppose the 1970’s consensus about global cooling was true and only masked by the buildup fo man made CO2. Because the cooling happens slowly over a long period the flood of additional CO2 had greater effect early in the process. Now, as cooling continues it’s relentless march and becomes increasingly stronger, we become more away of it. The proper course of action concerning CO2 would be to continue to allow an increase in the ppmv in the atmosphere to help mitigate the coming ice age. Do nothing and spend our resources learning to adapt would be the correct course of action.
Scenario 2: Suppose the 1970’s consensus about global cooling was wrong and the cooling followed by warming followed by cooling is due to natural cycles. That would imply that man made CO2 emissions had so little effect that you could ignore them. Do nothing about CO2 and spend our resources learning to adapt would again be the correct course of action.

old construction worker
May 1, 2008 8:25 pm

Gary says “Let’s not use natural environmental system variability as an excuse for irresponsible disposal of our wastes.”
What does irresponsible disposal of our wastes have to do with CO2 drives the climate theory or more CO2 may be benefical to the planet?
Don Healy writes “If CO2 levels have increased from 180 ppm to current levels of 384 ppm recently, then theoretically we should have experienced an increase in vegetative production………….”
So that why I have to cut the grass at least once a week. I’m going to stop using weed & feed.

Bruce
May 1, 2008 9:05 pm

The figure floating around is 150 BMTC from natural sources per year.
Versus 5.5 BMTC from manmade sources like burning fossil fuels.
Around 1 BMTC is caused by changes in land use. Like agriculture.

Mike from Canmore
May 1, 2008 9:06 pm

Sonic Frog:
I USED to respect what you had to say. Bud light. Nuf said.

Jean Meeus
May 2, 2008 12:10 am

It is very possible that increased CO2 is a positive thing as it would favorize plant-growth, but I think this is not to the point.
What the IPCC and other alarmists pretend is that more CO2 means more greenhouse gas, resulting in higher temperature, resulting in the melting of glaciers and of polar ice, resulting in the increase of sea-level, resulting in the inundation of the lower countries. This is why so many people, at least here in western Europe, are so obsessed with CO2.

May 2, 2008 12:50 am

The PH of ocean water may fluctuate 2 units (of PH) up and down completely naturally within short period of time (close to land that is). It is hard to make a claim that much smaller variations in the larger oceans would have catastrophic impact.
I long for the day when CO2 is no longer an issue and the very real environmental threats still unsolved recieve the attention they deserve.

vaguest
May 2, 2008 4:56 am

I was wondering about this recently myself, and I am glad to see that it has occurred to someone else too. Plants LOVE co2, it’s what they make their food from. Duh!

Tom in Florida
May 2, 2008 5:09 am

Question:
What happens to the ingested CO2?
As I understand Algorean science, it will accumulate inside the body ( with only small sporadic releases via our nature check valves) where it will trap incoming solar radiation that penetrates the skin. Our body temperature will eventually reach a tipping point which will cause runaway fever and death. Models using the average temp of a human at 98.6 (with statistical adjustments made for those having “a cold heart”) indicate that it shouldn’t take long before all beer drinkers reach the deadly 106 degrees. How does Anheiser Busch stay in businesss?

kim
May 2, 2008 7:28 am

TiF et al; unending glory to those most intrepid of warriors, the Moms threading the frontlines of the Carbon Liberation Wars in their Suburban Ursault Vehicles.
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May 2, 2008 7:49 am
deadwood
May 2, 2008 7:58 am

Avfuktare krypgrund vind:
Its worse than you think. The current obsession with CO2 has a greater potential to harm the environment.
When folks wise up to the scam that is perpetrated on them, they will lash out against all environmental policies – including those that are responsible for the clean water and air we enjoy in western countries today.

Evan Jones
Editor
May 2, 2008 8:25 am

Can someone put that as a ratio to the total BMT of the entire atmosphere. Is this significant or just a truck load of sand in the Sahara?
Here are the figures (a coiple years old:
Input to Atmosphere/Output from Atmosphere:
Ocean: To Atm.: 88 BMTC, From Atm.: 90 BMTC, Difference: -2
Vegetation/Soil (Natural): To Atm.:119 BMTC, From Atm.: 120 BMTC, Difference: -1
Vegetation/Soil (Man): To Atm.:1.7 BMTC, From Atm.: 1.9 BMTC, Difference: -0.2
Industry: To Atm.: 6.3, From Atm.: 0, Difference: +6.3
Total: To Atm.: 215 BMTC, From Atm.: 211.9 BMTC, Difference: +3.1
So yes, industrial output is only 6.5 BTMT/yr out of 215 BMTC total world output.
But nature drains off 211.9 BMTC. And if there were no industrial input, CO2 accumulation would not be occurring.
So it’s sort of like a bathtub that is filling up 1.5% faster than it is draining.
My own belief is that the bathtub has MUCH higher sides than the IPCC supposes, and that, in practical terms, the tub will never overflow. But that’s a different argument. Long before that point, man will have moved on to some other (as yet unknown) technology.

Evan Jones
Editor
May 2, 2008 8:30 am

The above, courtesy of my handy-dandy “postcard” setup.
Errata: Acc. to the DoE figures cited above, industial output is 6.6 BMTC/yr, not 6.5. But by now it has probably increased to 6.5.

Evan Jones
Editor
May 2, 2008 8:31 am

AARGH! 6.3 BMTC = industrial output
6.3.
6.3.

Evan Jones
Editor
May 2, 2008 8:34 am

Re oceans. The CO2 results in a teeny amount of carbonic acid.
But that’s a ph of 4.1 or so, which is VERY weak for an acid.

Pierre Gosselin
May 2, 2008 9:23 am

Evan Jones,
Yuk! That stuff is nasty. That’s not beer.
In fact, you don’t want to know what it is.

Retired Engineer
May 2, 2008 9:58 am

If I were stranded in the desert, dying of thirst, and came across a bottle of Bud Lite…. I’d have to think about it. Sam Adams Lite is another story.
On a slightly more serious note: Just what does CO2 do to the environment? It absorbs light in a couple of wavelengths in the infrared, re-emits at around 10 microns. Water vapor absorbs similar wavelengths. None of the incoming solar radiation at those wavelengths reaches the surface, those evil GHG’s get it all. The earth absorbs other wavelengths, and re-emits energy at the points in question, CO2 gets about 97% of that. And it isn’t linear. If your sunglasses absorb half the incoming light, putting on a second pair doesn’t block 100%, just 75. Diminishing return. So how can we be facing a climate disaster at 97? Can’t get much more. Which may be why the planet survived 4000 ppm.
One serious side effect (of biofuel) is a shortage of hops. As I have noted before, this has caused an increase in the price of beer. If that’s al-Gore’s legacy, history may not treat him kindly.
All this has made me thirsty. I think I’ll have another beer.

May 2, 2008 11:22 am

Wait… should I switch from beer to liqour to go green?

Bill Illis
May 2, 2008 11:23 am

Carbonate shell-based animals such as Trilobites and Ammonites dominated the oceans at a time when CO2 levels were as high as 7,000 ppm. Some Ammonites grew to be 6 feet across.
So increased CO2 leading to increased ocean PH leading to the death of shell-based organisms is completely baseless.