A non panicked public says “where’s the fire”? Amazingly, “Global Warming” scores a ZERO in the latest ABC News poll.
ABC and the Washington Post polled Americans about the most important issue to them in the upcoming elections. The economy ranked #1 with 41%, Iraq #2 with 18%, Health Care #3 with 7%, Terrorism/National Security #4 with 5%, Immigration and Ethics followed with 4%, Education and Morals with 2%, Environment and Global Warming continue to receive a 0%.
See full size table here
(Direct link to ABC Poll, page 6 has global warming zero result) http://www.abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/1063a4EconomyandIraq.pdf
h/t to ICECAP and reader Mike Bryant.
Gotta agree with Gary G here. Maybe that $300M will put some people to work without changing anybody’s mind.
I’d much rather be a shill for Big Oil. (I need to eat but I’m happier if I can sleep at night.)
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Of course you forgot AGW hysteria in your list.
Interesting polls and equally as interesting comments.
I spoke before a group of college students over the weekend and not a single one believed in AGW. They did agree with me that we should all be stewards of our environment, but not to the extent the envirowhackos suggest.
I also visited a Starbucks in upscale Lake Forest Illinois where one would expect to run into some of the more intellectually inclined individuals (Captains of Industry and all that). As I walked towards the entrance, there were approximately 40 people sitting around the outside tables, shivering their butts off (the inside was packed). As I walked past them, I casually mentioned “Thank God for global warming, can you imagine how cold we would be without it? It was all that it took to get a good group conversation started as one person after another made jokes about Goofy Gore and the gw nonsense.
Now that gave me a great warm feeling!
Jack Koenig, Editor
The Mysterious Climate Project
http://www.climateclinic.com
Sure, keep on heating the planet and call the science nonsense, just as long as your can keep on drillin’ and drivin’ for Jesus and the American way.
Denial accelerates the inevitable. AGW is a real problem. The sun and the pacific ocean have an effect, but the contributions of pollutants is now undeniable.
tuibguy said: “Sure, keep on heating the planet and call the science nonsense, just as long as your can keep on drillin’ and drivin’ for Jesus and the American way.
Denial accelerates the inevitable. AGW is a real problem. The sun and the pacific ocean have an effect, but the contributions of pollutants is now undeniable.”
I understand Depends are on sale throughout the world this week. You might want to stock up.
Jack Koenig, Editor
The Mysterious Climate Project
http://www.climateclinic.com
Tuibguy? What evidance do you have to support your claims. This page is full of scientific evidance that, if GW exists, it is not AGW. So, unless you want to give us some counter evidance, keep your insults to yourself.
I have to aggree with ‘braddles’. This question does not represent the peoples overall concerns. But it is interesting none the less.
Sure, keep on heating the planet and call the science nonsense, just as long as your can keep on drillin’ and drivin’ for Jesus and the American way.
Wow, that’s a slap in the face. Ow, ow, ooh! Can’t stand the pain.
Where did you dig that gem up, notuibrightguy?
AGW is a real problem. Only for drooling pablum-gobbling climate alarmists like you, tuibguy. Instead of AGW pseudoscience, you might give actual science a try: The Great Global Warming Hoax? is a good place to start.
Tell me, then, why you haven’t given up your technological lifestyle? The only way to get rid of the human industrial influence is to forgo ALL human activities beyond hunting/gathering. Agriculture? Sorry, not natural, plants do grow in straight lines unless planted by humans.
No amount of switching light bulbs or driving hybrids will make a whit of difference. So I ask you what I ask everyone else who preaches the doom and gloom and science is settled. Why are you still here? They never have an answer, they just cast insults.
tuibguy: The question is not whether CO2 has the direct effect the IPCC says it has. The question is whether the positive feedback equation is correct. If there are no positive feedbacks, AGW is a near-nonissue, perhaps a 0.1 to 0.2C effect at most.
Most skeptics do not deny CO2 warming, but we question the feedback equation.
I commend you for admitting the possibility of ocean oscillations and solar factors having an impact. Most AGW proponents dismiss both the “sea witch” and the “sun worshiper” out of hand.
Oops, that should have said “plants do not grow in straight lines…”
Given the American public’s recent track record in identifying what’s going to hit it (dot-com bubble, 2000 elections, 9/11, Iraq, housing bubble)
I will grant this is true in the realm of economics (though the economy over the last half-century, on the whole has been a miracle).
But every environmental panic over the last half-century has been a very shrill, very wet firecracker. And the proposed radical “solutions” to the nonexistent crises have been draconian and–extremely–costly. For a small example, look at the horrible suffering and many deaths that the biofuels “solution” has already inflicted upon the pooest people the world over.
I wonder if Al Gore will ask for a recount on this poll?
Well, if I read this graph correctly, it shows that CO2 levels can be thousands of times above today’s levels and average temperature of the planet never rises above 22C.
It is from an article on the IPCC and their apparent inflation of CO2 feedback over the years. It seems that with every passing year the IPCC inflates the climate feedback numbers. Trouble is that when climate isn’t warming in response to increased CO2 in the atmosphere as has been the case over the past decade, the inflation results in their predictions being increasingly wrong with every passing year.
Global Warming would be much easier to sell if the climate was actually warming globally. That is hard to do when you have a state like today where we have about 3 million kilometers more sea ice globally than we had a year ago … over both hemispheres. In Gore’s world of runaway warming and temperatures that spike higher and higher and higher with each passing year, that sould be impossible.
tuibguy
Undeniable yes. Also unquantifiable, potentially trivial. That is the point.
“the science” is shoddy, done behind closed doors, and based primarily on computer models which currently have predictive power approaching zero.
Why do all of you enviro-alarmists like tuibguy above relate us sensible, skeptical scientists with Jesus, flat earthers, conservatives, SUV drivers, industrialists, and creationists? I am none of those things and you don’t know me or other people chatting on here. I care about the environment, but I care about truth and good science even more. People like you are a testament to the alarmist, propaganda junk that you spew and possibly believe.
Montana just set new weather records for this date. From the NWS:
Statement as of 10:45 am EDT on April 21, 2008
…Latest Below Zero Temperature For The Season In North Central
&Nbsp;&Nbsp;&Nbsp;Montana…
Location new record old record year set
Great Falls Aprt -8 on Apr 21 -1 on Apr 20 2008
… Record low temperatures for Apr 21 in north central and
southwest Montana…
Location new record old record year set
Great Falls Arpt -8 11 1951
Belgrade field 15 (tied) 15 1951
Lewistown 0 1 1967
Helena 6 14 1951
04/20/2008 0733 am
7 miles N of Gold Butte, Toole County.
Heavy snow e16.0 inch, reported by trained spotter.
Total snow accumulation of 12 to 16 inches… with drifts
up to 7 feet. Strong northwest winds occurring… with
snow continuing.
Denile is a river in Egypt. Go cry in it.
tuibguy,
CO2 is not a pollutant. It is necessary for life. More the better.
Tuibguy,
CO2 is not a pollutant. I exhale it everyday. Actually, the lack of real pollutants have warmed the planet. Less volcanic ash, less aerosols emitted by the Former Soviet Union, etc., in combination with a warmer sun have caused surface temperatures to rise. This is why troposhere temperatures have not risen faster than surface temperatures, in direct contrast to GW theory.
If only it were science in the true sense…
Tuib:
Undeniable to whom?
Can you show me your evidence (and models are NOT evidence, they are mechanisms of hypothesis)?
Perhaps the increasing satellite temperatures over the last 10 years?
Perhaps the warming of the oceans?
tuibguy says
AGW is a real problem.
How many parts of the CO2 drives the climate theory must be falsified by observed data before you understand that CO2 does not drive the climate!
1) CO2 lags temperture.
2) The upper part of the troposhere is not warming faster than the surface.
3) oceans evporation is not causing heat trapping clouds.
4) oceans have been cooling for the last few years eventhough CO2 have been increasing.
5) global tempature have not been increasing since 1998 eventhough CO2 have increasing.
The EPA has every right to deal with harmful pollution. But CO2 is a non harmful gas. Without it we would die.
After this past winter there is no one left who is willing to believe it is a problem. On top of it, Gore’s campaign is doing a terrible job of getting good endorsees. Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson. Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi. These people are liked by few and disliked by many. The message “from the left and right” is being rejected by that all important middle, especially middle America who is tired of shoveling snow.