Live at the conference, Day2 – Success

You know your presentation was successful when:

1) Nobody threw rotten fruit

2) People came up to me afterwards and said “I have photos I can get to you”

3) A high level official at NCDC requests a copy of my presentation “as soon as you can get it to me”

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August 28, 2007 3:43 pm

Congratulations. I think things are really going to start popping now.

August 28, 2007 3:48 pm

Very very cool! Bravissimo!

Don Weirauch
August 28, 2007 3:48 pm

Awesome Anthony! Congrats on not getting pelted with rotten fruit!
Hope you can share some more highlights of the presentation when time permits.
Work well done and Attaboy’s all around!

August 28, 2007 3:55 pm

Congratulations! Put me and the rest of your blog readers on the list with Mr. NCDC. We want a copy of your presentation “as soon as you can get it to [us]”.

Bill F
August 28, 2007 4:31 pm

My only worry is that the observers at the various locations will get self conscious about their sites if your work gets too much publicity and will start doing housekeeping before all the sites are surveyed. While they can’t do much for the big things like asphalt parking lots, they can certainly move burn barrels, bbq pits, and ore carts full of rocks away from the sensor. While doing so will be an improvement in the long run, it is important for them to document such things if they do it, so the potential impact to the historical data can be evaluated. The last thing we need is to start a “global cooling” panic if too many bbq pits get moved in a short period of time.

Chris D
August 28, 2007 4:39 pm

Go Anthony! Well done, sir. I’m sure I’m not alone wishing I could’ve been a fly on the wall there in Colorado today.

August 28, 2007 4:53 pm

Does rotten fruit add or subtract to your carbon footprint?
Congrats and get that ppt up ASAP.

Larry Sheldon
August 28, 2007 6:30 pm

I dint say “Good Luck” because in show biz, it is bad luck to say “Good Luck”.
And I forgot to say “Break a leg” until you were already “on”.
But you dint need me.
If somebody could pick you out of a crowd, that means they were paying attention.
People can throw rotten fruit with no cognitive participation what ever.
Good show, and a video or the slide-show and paper would be very nice.

Retired Spook
August 28, 2007 6:52 pm

I just think it’s great that respected members of the scientific community are taking you and your work seriously.

August 28, 2007 7:17 pm

I while driving I stopped at the Florence Natural Resources & Wild Rivers Interpretive Center, Florence Wisconsin mostly to strech my legs.. When I got I of the car the first thing I saw was a weather station that looked like it was well sited and maintained. Since I was driving my employers vehicle I did not think it a good idea ask to take pictures for your project.
The station is on top of small grassy knoll with good air flow It is well away from paveing, buildings etc. About 20 or 30 feet to the south is tree line that looks like it will block the worst of direct solar radiation. The only potential problem is there is an antenna tower that looks like it has low voltage antennas top and side mounted. The closest one would be 20 feet above the station.
If you have a volunteer in the area to check it out they should also check out their high quality exhibits.

Russell Steele
August 28, 2007 7:20 pm

Anthony, Congratulations on your succesful presentation! Glad our late breaking pictures help in the audience understanding to the problem.

August 28, 2007 7:44 pm

i Think this is it. There is a dam down the road. It is close to the lat long I got from Earth Google and the post office direction distance is the center of the town.
475516 MINOCQUA DAM 1 WNW WI 45.88 -89.73 72741004 1580

Evan Jones
August 28, 2007 9:04 pm

Congratulations, Rev.!
That last bit about the NCDC sounds particularly encouraging. (But I still say you shouldn’t drink anything with them unless they’re williing so switch glasses.)
“Does rotten fruit add or subtract to your carbon footprint?”
It adds to your footprint.

August 28, 2007 9:52 pm

Congrats Andrew… but you have to realize that this is a roller coaster. Prepare for the attacks, that will soon follow. I am sure you are aware.

August 28, 2007 9:53 pm

Thanks everybody! I could not have done it without all of you that helped with site surveys advice and support.
Hank- thats it for sure, I hope you can get pictures.

Frank K.
August 29, 2007 6:19 am

Hi Anthony,
I’d like to add my congratulations for the fine job you’ve done with the surface stations project. Hopefully, you can follow up your presentation when you reach the 100% mark! Also, I hope you can post the presentation on your site when you have the opportunity.
I would love to see this project replicated world wide. Heaven knows what kinds of siting issues will be discovered in other countries (hmmm…climate monitoring station located next to Yak barn in outer Mongolia…:^).

Evan Jones
August 29, 2007 7:15 am

I agree with Bill F.
I even posted a passionate appeal over in C-Sci for NCDC volunteers not to “clean up” the sites, as it would put irreplaceable historical data beyond the possibility of correction. (And it would directly sabotage the surfacestations effort; oh, yeah.)
You’ll have to watch for that.

August 29, 2007 9:03 am

Why not recruit NCDC staff as volunteers to document the as yet unsurveyed sites? Better to be part of the solution than add to the problem.

August 29, 2007 10:33 am

Gary has the right idea.
Anthony. Use your contact with NCDC to get the job completed.
There are a good number f FAA sites and AFB sites that volunteers may have a tough time getting to.
Further, the CRN needs to be integrated and correlated with the good sites. So USHCN site documentation actualy serves the interest of CRN.
Baker for one should be all over your study.

Tom Thatcher
August 29, 2007 10:33 am

Anthony, can you format your presentation as a PDF and make it available?

August 29, 2007 12:48 pm

Well done Mr Watts!

August 29, 2007 7:38 pm

That is six hours driving time from home. I probally won’t be up that way until next year. There must be people closer. If it still hasnt been done…

Bill F
August 29, 2007 7:43 pm

If there are any Air Force or Army weather sites in Texas that need surveys, I may be able to help with some of them. Let me know which ones you might need and I will see what I can do.

Armand MacMurray
August 29, 2007 7:51 pm

Congratulations, Anthony!
Since you obviously have copious free time 🙂 here’s another suggestion for the site: add an explicit mechanism for recording the dates of photos/reports, so that one can add e.g. historical photos of a site or photos of previous locations, and have the system “know” what time period is represented.
For example, in the UofA Tucson station thread on climateaudit, Steve and others have posted links to historical photos of the station and/or campus region.

August 30, 2007 8:49 am

Bill F.
pull down this file.
Lots of AFB in texas, FAA as well.
ANTHONY, perhaps we could do a specialized list for the AFB and FAA sites.
Those will be the tough ones.

Bill F
August 31, 2007 1:20 am

alot of those bases aren’t restricted access anymore due to BRAC. Kelly and Brooks in San Antonio shouldn’t be hard to get, unless the Kelly station is in the part that got transferred to Lackland. Ellington is also open access I believe. I either work directly or have coworkers who do field work on Laughlin(TX), Vance(OK), Columbus(MS), and Reese(TX), as well as several other Army and AF sites. I will start asking around and see what it might take to get access to those stations.

Leon Palmer
August 31, 2007 10:46 am

California and other states have free copies of aerial photographs (DOQQs) taken by the USGS. In california, these are dated in the mid 1990’s, and can give a 10 year old comparison for current google or microsoft maps to see what’s changed in the last 10 years. I’ve done a comparison for Newport Beach and e-mailed it in to (haven’t heard if they got it), but it shows removal of trees, expansion of parking lots, more cars, etc… For california DOQQ’s can be obtained FREE from
click on
Calsil geofinder
to locate DOQQ’s in all counties of California. The DOQQs are big (45 MB) but can be downloaded, then trimeed in photoshop to area around a station site, and compared to a google or microsoft maps image of the same site. DOQQ’s are about 1 meter resolution.
The USDA also has a website for accessing their DOQQ library, haven’t had time to check it out yet. It’s at
Accessing these DOQQs is one way to identify what’s changed in the last 10 years at a station site.

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