SEA LEVEL! EVERYONE PANIC!

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

Well, I see that the climate hypemeisters are at it again. Here’s Google News on the subject.

Figure 1. The usual, from the usual suspects.

So I thought I’d take a look at some of the claims. To start with, here’s an overview of the sea level rise around the US coasts.

Figure 2. US relative sea level trends. Red is fastest rising, then orange, yellow, green, and finally blue for areas where relative sea level is falling. SOURCE: NOAA

A few notes of interest. First, look at the east coast / west coast differences in relative sea level rise. This is generally not because sea levels are rising at different rates on the east and west coasts. It’s because the land is generally sinking on the east coast and rising on the west coast. Nothing to do with the ocean.

Next, check out the local differences. At Grand Isle, Louisiana, the big red arrow in the Gulf of Mexico, the relative sea level is rising at 9.2 mm per year … while only a short distance away, the green arrow to the right of Grand Isle shows that Pensacola, Florida has a relative sea level rise less than a third of that, 2.7 mm per year.

Why different sea level rise rates? Again, it has nothing to do with the ocean. It’s because Grand Isle is a silty barrier island in the Mississippi Delta, and like all such islands, it’s slowly sinking into the briny blue.

So … guess which areas of the US the serial sea level doomcasters are focused on?

Well, here’s the Washington Post’s poster child for the “catastrophe” … Dauphin Island, Louisiana.

Figure 3. Dauphin Island, Alabama

And guess what? It’s another slowly sinking barrier island. Here’s what they claim is happening there.

Figure 4. The WaPo’s graph of the horrible, terrible sea level rise at Dauphin Island. Note that it is cut off at about 2022 … SOURCE: Washington Post

However, here’s what NOAA says about the sea level rise there.

Figure 5. NOAA relative sea level trend, Dauphin Island, Alabama. SOURCE: NOAA

Note that the Washington Post has cut off the last part of the data, which shows that Dauphin Island sea level rates are back to historical norms … bad journalists, no cookies …

And in the other Washington Post article, they go on about how terrible things are because of the recent rate of sea level rise in Charleston, South Carolina. Here’s the NOAA data for that tidal station.

Figure 6. NOAA relative sea level trend, Charleston, South Carolina. SOURCE: NOAA

Yes, there has been a recent increase in sea level rates in Charleston. But is it historically unusual? Well … in a word, no. I downloaded the data to take an accurate look at the rates of rise.

Figure 7. Comparison of recent and historical sea level rise rates, using the NOAA Charleston data linked above.

[CODA] And after writing the above, as Michael Corleone said, “Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!”

I closed the page on this post and resumed wandering the web, and then I have the misfortune to see the Boston Globe is up in arms about sea levels. They say (emphasis mine):

Last year, sea levels along the Boston coastline were, on average, higher than at any other point in recorded history: about 14 inches above levels in 1921, when records began.

“This hasn’t stopped or slowed down yet,” said Rob DeConto, a climate scientist who studies ice sheets in a warming climate and a professor at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

The record-breaking sea level is yet another data point showcasing a decades-long trend that is accelerating at a startling pace. As climate change worsens, the shoreline along much of the city will need new flood protections, such as berms, sea walls, and restored marshlands, as early as 2030, the latest available data provided by Boston plainly show.

As 2030 approaches, climate resilience experts told the Globe, the rapidly accelerating pace of sea level rise necessitates action.

Hmmm, sez I … so I got the Boston data from NOAA.

Figure 8. Boston sea level trend

Hmmm, sez I … not seeing the dreaded rapidly accelerating pace of sea level rise” there. So I downloaded the data and analyzed it for acceleration. Here’s the result. Each point shows the acceleration over the thirty years previous to that date.

Figure 9. Trailing 30-year sea level rise acceleration rates, Boston Massachusetts.

As you can see, the acceleration of Boston sea level rise over the last 30 years has been … well … not to put too fine a point on it … basically zero. Zip. Nada. Nothing.

You can also see the alternating acceleration and deceleration of sea level rise over time, which is visible in all the sea level records around the world. And so we can be sure that at some time in the future, sea levels in Boston will actually begin to accelerate again.

And when that happens, be prepared for the climatastrophist hype to hit new highs.

Forewarned is forearmed …

TL;DR Version: The sea level rates are doing what they’ve always done. There’s been no unusual “acceleration” in the tide gauge measurements. The east coast land is still sinking, the west coast land is still rising, acceleration is still alternating with deceleration, and just like always, silty barrier islands in river deltas are slowly returning to the ocean …

… and when Bill Gates, Obama, and the rest of the pluted bloatocrats stop buying million-dollar beachfront estates, you might start thinking about sea levels.

Until then?

Chill.


And here in Northern California, where we were supposed to be in a permanent drought … it’s raining again. The view from here …

While that’s great for the forest, and the grass loves it, that also means I’m gonna have to mow our two-acre clearing again … my gorgeous ex-fiancee sez I should hire someone to do it, but I figure, why should illegal immigrants have all the fun?

Best to all, stay well,

w.

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May 5, 2024 10:10 am

The willingness to lie isn’t surprising to me as I see it all over the internet which indicate they are trying to drive a false narrative to what is really going on.

Reply to  Sunsettommy
May 6, 2024 6:11 am

Yes, the Washington Post writers definitely look like they are deliberately lying about sea level rise. It took a lot of effort to distort the data the way they did.

Willis set them straight by showing the actual data.

Scarecrow Repair
May 5, 2024 10:19 am

And at 4000 feet in the Sierras, six inches of snow, on the blossoming trees.

Milo
Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
May 5, 2024 10:33 am

Snow above 3500’ in Oregon’s Blue Mountains too.

Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
May 6, 2024 6:13 am

So I guess you guys are not experiencing unprecedented warmth there?

noaaprogramer
Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 6, 2024 10:09 pm

Nope, in the valleys, lows will be in the 30s F. But next week the highs are predicted to be in the 70s and 80s. If I can take that dramatic rise in temperature over a span of 5 or 6 days, I know I can handle a 1.1° F per century rise!

Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
May 7, 2024 8:20 am

Similar here in western Colorado at 6500′, snow all morning so far, not sticking though. They are predicting low 20°s for tonight which should eliminate fruit this year. This late of a hard freeze will also reduce the wild fruits for the bears, increasing human interaction. I’ve already had four in my yard this year. Had to move a bird feeder higher, out of their reach. Bears are pretty shy, easy to scare away, until they realize through more human interfacing that our yelling is really not dangerous. The snow is sticking now, should be interesting weather for the next day.

Milo
May 5, 2024 10:31 am

Two acres? Goats!

Joe Crawford
Reply to  Milo
May 6, 2024 8:53 am

No, goats can destroy the grass along with anything else that’s growing there by pulling it all out by the roots. The Air Force did a study many years ago and decided that sheep were the solution for nicely trimming the grass around the nuclear bomb bunkers.

viejecita
May 5, 2024 10:41 am

I love reading your pieces, because I understand them . ( Well, my old eyes have a problem with Multi Coloured charts, but the part about Bill Gates, and Obama, and all those “super ricachones” and their beachfront estates, is easy to enjoy for an old granny like myself ) . And I love it when you mention your gorgeous ex fiancée . And your garden looks great. Of course you are proud of it, and of doing all the work yourself.

I am old, but have not retired from work. And would hate having “help “? at home.
¡ Un abrazo !

Rud Istvan
May 5, 2024 10:57 am

Nice post, WE.

Sea level rise has been an alarmist bugaboo since Hansen first raised the alarm in a Salon interview in 1989. WaPo and Boston Globe newly prove this again.

He said Manhattan’s West Side Highway would be under water by now. Nope.

He said this would be because sea level rise would accelerate. It hasn’t.

He said small island nation populations would become climate refugees as their islands drowned. Tuvalu even held an underwater cabinet meeting demanding reparations. There are no climate refugees, altho one Tuvalu illegal immigrant tried claiming climate asylum in New Zealand—and was denied. Over the past 20 years, Tuvalu has in fact gained 2.9% in land area.

Yet even now, retired, Hansen is still at it. And Columbia U is still defending him because NASA GISS is at Columbia. Matters not that he has been wrong for 35 years.

Denis
Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 5, 2024 2:01 pm

Rud, You might be interested in a paper by Kurt Larson, a now retired USGS geologist written some 20 years ago. He evaluated data from core-sampled coastal river sediments and peat bogs along the east coast from Long Island Sound to Delaware and found that sea level rise in this region has been between 1 and 2 mm/year for the last 6,000 years with no evidence for acceleration during that time. The study is Larson and Clark. “A Search for Scale in Sea-level Studies”, Journal of Coastal research, July 2006.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Denis
May 5, 2024 3:22 pm

TY. Wilco.

Writing Observer
Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 5, 2024 2:20 pm

I had forgotten that GISS is at Hamas University. Yet another reason to remove any tax payer funding…

Reply to  Writing Observer
May 6, 2024 6:20 am

Columbia University gets hundreds of millions of dollars from American taxpayers.

I think Republicans are going to be looking into the funding these universities get.

I don’t want any of my tax money to go to supporting an organization that promotes terrorism and anti-semitism the way Columbia Univeristy does.

May 5, 2024 11:43 am

The sea is rising everywhere twice as fast as everywhere else. The science says so.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
May 5, 2024 12:06 pm

JZ, somewhere on my computer I have archived a peer reviewed sea level rise paper that found the rate in the southern hemisphere was twice that of the northern hemisphere. So you are sort of correct.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 5, 2024 1:02 pm

At the rate Southern Hemisphere sea level rise exceeds Northern Hemisphere rise, until a cliff appears at the equator, providing flat-earthers with the deadly edge they long ago claimed but never found.

ships-edge-earth
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
May 5, 2024 12:40 pm

Good one!

Actually, if it’s rising somewhere faster than somewhere else, the sea isn’t level.

Simon Science says, “Sea level is not ON the level at all. It’s crooked.”

Before you know it, shorelines everywhere are going to be three-dimensional, like corkscrews. But it will employ more scientists. They’ll be running every which way like rabbits, trying to get keep their instruments up to date with the ever-changing data.

Curious George
Reply to  tom_gelsthorpe
May 5, 2024 6:23 pm

Of course the sea level is not level. Satellite measurements show that it rises twice as fast as tide gauges show. I believe in satellites, so water is gathering in huge mid-ocean bulges. Once these bulges burst, there will be a Great Flood 🙂

Denis
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
May 5, 2024 2:02 pm

Kinda like Lake Wobegon where everyone is above average.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Denis
May 5, 2024 3:26 pm

Only all the children. I miss Prairie Home Companion and Garrison Keillor. Too bitingly funny to survive in today’s PC world.

cwright
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
May 6, 2024 4:06 am

The temperature records are perfectly consistent with that. The science clearly shows that everywhere is warming twice as fast as everywhere else. This must be true because the media are constantly reporting this….
Chris

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  cwright
May 6, 2024 8:08 am

If only the media would chill for a few weeks. Catastrophe would then be averted.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
May 6, 2024 8:06 am

So, the sea is rising faster than the land. Copy that.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
May 6, 2024 8:08 am

twice as fast 🙂

Bob
May 5, 2024 12:00 pm

Very nice Willis.

Duane
May 5, 2024 12:27 pm

It is not demonstrated by data that all or most barrier islands are “sinking”. Barrier islands erode, but they also do the opposite (deposit), depending upon local winds, currents, and storms. If any place is sinking or rising in absolute elevation, it is due to either tectonic action, glacial accumulation or melt rebound, or due to large scale extraction of subsurface water or crude oil, not due to being at the seashore.

Between ground level topographical survey and satellite measurements, the absolute elevation of any point can be determined and used to calibrate local sea level measurements. It is not difficult or challenging to geo-correct sea level measurements. If the warmunists and media choose instead to just cherry pick scarier seeming uncorrected sea level measurements, it is not scientifically valid.

Volcanologists routinely measure changes in surface elevation on the shoulders of active volcanos.

Writing Observer
Reply to  Duane
May 5, 2024 2:23 pm

Yep. Hurricanes have been known to wipe out some barrier islands – and nearly double the size of others. All depends on the way they strike.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Duane
May 5, 2024 2:28 pm

 Dauphin Island, AL likely has 30,000 to 50,000 feet of sediments under it. {I haven’t checked for a better number.}
Compaction happens.

sherro01
Reply to  John Hultquist
May 5, 2024 9:12 pm

So do processes related to the small particle sizes of sediments, in the colloidal size range. For example, a natural shock like a quake can cause liquefaction of very large masses of resting sediments, sometimes causing a landslide. Undersea telephone cables covering a large distance can be cut, e.g. see grand banks 1929.
If you are not into geology, you can be quite unaware of substantial geometric changes in solids under the oceans that have to have effects on sea level measurements. Geoff S

hdhoese
Reply to  Duane
May 5, 2024 4:04 pm

“At Grand Isle, Louisiana, the big red arrow in the Gulf of Mexico, the relative sea level is rising at 9.2 mm per year….” Grand Isle has been measured rotating slowly clockwise with the northeast end advancing, the southwest eroding, but nearly three decades ago was predicted to survive a millennium, so far so good. [McBride, R. A. and M. R. Byrnes. 1995. A megascale systems approach for shoreline change analysis and coastal management along the northern Gulf of Mexico. Transactions Gulf Coast Association Geological Societies. 45:405-414. ] I wouldn’t bet on it since it is close to a sinking delta. However, the eroding Chandeleur Islands east of the delta have lasted longer. I know two mid-90s year old gentlemen who grew up on the central Texas coast who are still waiting for the water to cover the road where one lives which was promised also about three decades ago.

Corrigenda
May 5, 2024 12:38 pm

Today’s climate science somehow omits the reality of the past and that of the present. Clearly we need to change current thinking so that it reflects reality.

May 5, 2024 12:53 pm

As you can see, the acceleration of Boston sea level rise over the last 30 years has been … well … not to put too fine a point on it … basically zero. Zip. Nada. Nothing.

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That’s pretty much true for most tide gauges with 100 years of data:

Acceleration-Distribution
Rud Istvan
Reply to  Steve Case
May 5, 2024 1:45 pm

Great chart. I am borrowing it for my own archive.

DD More
Reply to  Steve Case
May 5, 2024 8:19 pm

Steve, I see San Fran on your list. Ever see this write up?

SAN FRANCISCO / TIDES OF HISTORY / Presidio gauge has measured the bay’s rise and fall for 150 years
Over the years, the gauges also showed a gradual rise in the sea level — eight inches in 150 years. However, there was also a period of 38 years, ending in 1913, when the sea level declined

The San Francisco gauge also measured other phenomena — such as the effect of the El Niño condition on water levels. The highest tide ever recorded was on Jan. 27, 1983, when the surface of the water at the Golden Gate reached 8.78 feet above mean sea level, or zero. The lowest tide was on Dec. 17, 1933, with minus 2.9 feet. The 1983 high tide accompanied a downpour associated with the El Niño condition; the lowest accompanied a period of the exact opposite condition.

Run off the rivers appears to effect high and low tides as measured by the gages.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  DD More
May 6, 2024 8:10 am

Water and silt.

Hoffman
May 5, 2024 1:54 pm

It’s because the land is generally sinking on the east coast and rising on the west coast. Nothing to do with the ocean.” Obviously too many people are living on the east coast. We need to move some of them inland, quickly, before the country flips over.

Reply to  Hoffman
May 5, 2024 4:12 pm

USA is a bit bigger than Guam 🙂

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  bnice2000
May 6, 2024 8:12 am

But, but, but the tipping points are more severe!
Too may people on the east coast represents a precipice.
But if they fall in the ocean, the ocean level will achieve a run-away rising effect.

May 5, 2024 2:05 pm

A thousand years hasn’t effected this place much.

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sherro01
May 5, 2024 2:06 pm

It is still assumed too often that the rock walls and floors that contain the oceans have a fixed volume that does not change. But, it does change. Sometimes a small adjustment is made to cope with this basin change, but it cannot be measured accurately and so is inferred. We know that whole continents are moving sideways with respect to neighbours, that there is seafloor spreading, that seamounts are growing and popping out above the waves here and there and that the mighty Himalayan mountains are sediments that were once below sea level. They have uplifted slowly but certainly.
A sensible approach by scaremongerers would accept that tectonics do not support the assumption of a constant size of the ocean container.
The “news” reports that Willis mentions are not science because they contain a known error. They are uneducated gossip that should result in sacking and an apology from their former employers. It is that bad. Geoff S

MarkW
Reply to  sherro01
May 5, 2024 4:21 pm

Can we assume that the amount of dirt being eroded into the oceans is more or less constant, one year to the next?

sherro01
Reply to  MarkW
May 5, 2024 9:25 pm

Yes, you can assume that if you wish, but regard it as a hypothesis that needs testing and measurement as to magnitude and uncertainty. But then, underwater sediments in the big river deltas and other active places also change shape and size with known processes of compaction such as dewatering, low scale metamorphism and more that one might assume to affect sea level. While these can be slow on a scale of centuries and regarded as stable for sea level measurements, there are also fast effects like landslides within these sediments that might happen in those 100 year time slices. One must assign suitable uncertainty to random sharp processes. The 1905 San Francisco quake could have put a step change into local tide gauge measurements. A step is there, this attribution seems reasonable. Geoff S

Reply to  sherro01
May 5, 2024 11:50 pm

The 1906 San Francisco Earthquake moved the ocean side of the San Andreas fault 16 feet north as evidenced by railroad tracks offset by the quake. It also uplifted the shoreline by 1 foot as evidenced by mussels on pier pilings that no longer were submerged during high tide.

The same thing happened in1989 except for the northern slippage which was only 4 feet due to shorter quake time. But the poor mussels again lost a foot of water.

USGS reported on and published both observations in 1990 with photographs and charts, but since it’s inconveniently off narrative, no one talks about it.

Alastair Brickell
Reply to  doonman
May 6, 2024 9:30 am

Forget the grandkids…think of the mussels!

Alastair Brickell
Reply to  sherro01
May 6, 2024 9:34 am

I wonder if anyone has seriously considered or quantified the effect of a slight slowing or acceleration of the rate of mid-ocean spreading in the Atlantic or elsewhere. A small change could have a big effect on the volume of the ocean basin for a while I would have thought. Of course subduction somewhere will take account of that eventually.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MarkW
May 6, 2024 8:13 am

Fair question.
It also applies to subsurface volcanos and vents and other geothermal phenomena.

Writing Observer
May 5, 2024 2:18 pm

Just eyeballing the raw data – the current rate looks very much like similar periods in the 1940s (which were cooling from the 1930s hot period) and around 1970 (when the climatistas were yelling about a new ice age).

Looks very much like “global warming” DECELERATES sea level rise…

(Total nonsense, of course – but just as valid as the “scientists.”)

John Hultquist
May 5, 2024 2:21 pm

 Thanks Willis.
Seattle, WA was covered with 3,000 feet of ice about 17,000 years ago. As the ice melted, the ocean advanced. 3,000 feet equals 914,400 mm. That’s change!
A problem with knowing what sea level is doing along the OR, WA, & BC coast is confounded by the clock-wise rotation about a point near Pendelton, OR. Northeast-directed subduction of the Juan de Fuca Plate beneath the continent drags the leading edge of Oregon northward. Meanwhile the time since the last megathrust earthquake (1700) has extended 324 years. Should that happen now, the coast might jump up and down 7 feet in a matter of seconds. Unlike barely noticeable millimeters of change, the action of a >8 earthquake will be immediate and spectacular.  

Rud Istvan
Reply to  John Hultquist
May 5, 2024 3:37 pm

Worrisome. The geological periodicy of Cascadia fault major quakes is about 300 years. So a bit overdue.

And, as illustrated by a picture in essay ‘By land or by sea’ in ebook Blowing Smoke, the central Alaska shoreline has been uplifted about 6 feet over its last three major quakes.

Gilbert K. Arnold
Reply to  John Hultquist
May 5, 2024 3:50 pm

Hultquist

 May 5, 2024 2:21 pm I see you have been following the good folks at CWU and the PANGA array data…Good on my alma mater for this wonderful service

May 5, 2024 3:13 pm

I’m more worried about the hole in the bottom of the sea. As I recently learned from some 1st grade experts, there’s apparently a flea on a speck on a frog on a bump on a branch on a log in a hole in the bottom of the sea. If it continues to grow, who knows what could end up in that hole. I’ll need about a trillion dollars to study this.

SteveZ56
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
May 6, 2024 8:37 am

I heard about that when I was in first grade, back in the 1960’s. Some things never change! But if the hole ever opened up, maybe the sea level might go down (/sarc).

May 5, 2024 4:14 pm

In the late 1960s at school we were taught about the problems caused by the Aswan Dam. The biggest problem was the blocking of the annual flood which deposited rich mud onto the Nile river banks. In addition the Nile Delta was losing land because the annual floods were blocked while sea water was invading the ground water. This problem is the same for all river deltas where the natural flooding that happens on flood planes has been stopped. I’m not sure this is the same issue for Dauphin Island but isn’t the Mississippi heavily dyked to control flooding which restricts the amount of silt flowing downstream, which would then be deposited onto the delta?
The Mekong is heavily dammed which means the Mekong Delta gets very little replacement silt while there is also unrestricted ground water extraction. This is causing Ho Chi Minh city to subside. Guess the reason given by the BBC for the sinking land under Ho Chi Minh city?

May 5, 2024 4:26 pm

Please Willis.. do not mention “raining again” and “mowing grass”. !

Down here, it has been raining on/off for nearly a week, I can’t mow the grass, because it is too boggy and sodden.. thankfully growth is slowing a bit as we come towards winter..

….. and the mushrooms.. growing in the grass in semi-coastal NSW, which is usually fairly dry and the ground hard… what’s the word they use “unprecedented”.

DSC01817
Reply to  bnice2000
May 5, 2024 4:36 pm

In 2022 Tonga’s Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai volcanoIn shot approximately 146 billion kilograms of water into Earth’s stratosphere. That’s about 10% of the entire water content of the stratosphere. That water has to go somewhere?

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
May 5, 2024 5:44 pm

Odd that you never see numbers how much was put into the troposphere by HT.

It doesn’t rain from the stratosphere, and as Willis says, the amount pushed into the stratosphere, while a large amount for the stratosphere, is really a pretty small amount precipitation wise.

Where-ever this incessant rain is coming from… it unfortunately shows no sign of relenting.

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Phil.
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
May 6, 2024 9:36 am

But not in the stratosphere Willis, it added a significant amount there, above the noise.

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Phil.
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
May 8, 2024 10:59 am

Yes, the amount does but all that 0.2g/m2 is in the stratosphere where it isn’t precipitable.
The original poster said: “In 2022 Tonga’s Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai volcano shot approximately 146 billion kilograms of water into Earth’s stratosphere. That’s about 10% of the entire water content of the stratosphere. That water has to go somewhere?”

The answer is that the water doesn’t go anywhere, at least not for several years.

sherro01
Reply to  sskinner
May 5, 2024 9:30 pm

sskinner,
Pls check your numbers. Seems too much water weight by several orders of magnitude. Geoff S

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  sskinner
May 6, 2024 8:17 am

NASA claims the Tonga water disrupted the ozone layer and an increase between 5% to 40% more UV has penetrated.

rbabcock
May 5, 2024 5:30 pm

I’m looking out my back window at my dock that’s been there for 27 years and at high tide it still is well below the stringers. I’m on the western shore of the Chesapeake Bay just north of the Rhappahannock in an area that is supposedly sinking but I’ve yet to notice a difference from when I built it and today. There’s a deep water slip at the end for my sailboat and actually another 3″ of water would be welcome since on very low tides it’s possible to hit bottom, though I’ve never done it.

We do have flooding occasionally but it’s always wind driven. I’m certainly not panicking. Some areas around Norfolk, VA are having issues but if they stopped pumping water out of the aquifers underneath them, maybe it might not get worse.

eck
May 5, 2024 6:43 pm

Willis, I love your “fact-filled” posts. I often reference them to “low-information” friends, neighbors, etc.
One of these says I’ll get up your way again, from my south bay abode and perhaps chat in person.

eck
Reply to  eck
May 5, 2024 6:46 pm

Oh, and keep updating your “Where’s the Climate Emergency” post, it’s invaluable! (i.e., valuable. English is weird)

Keitho
Editor
May 5, 2024 10:29 pm

The alarmists fascination with “needle chatter” would be amusing if the media didn’t take it so seriously.

Richard Greene
May 5, 2024 10:53 pm

Sea level articles should always discuss Antarctica ice,

With up to 90% of land ice, most of Antarctica has a permanent temperature inversion, so does NOT get warmer from more greenhouse gases

Two ice shelves and the tiny peninsula do have some melting

The claimed loss of ice mass of 150 gigatons a year is very likely below the margin of error in the estimates. Total Antarctica ice mass is estimated at 24.4 million gigatons.

At 150 gigatons melting each year, all the ice would melt in 1.6 million years. That would only happen if the current interglacial lasted 1.6 million years.

Areas in pink on the chart below have a permanent temperature inversion

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Dandersan
May 6, 2024 12:44 am

Thanks for the post.
Periodic changes are mistaken for climate change due to CO2. Happens all the time.
Rain support greening witch can be turned into burning items during drier conditions.

May 6, 2024 1:17 am

…generally not because sea levels are rising at different rates on the east and west coasts. It’s because the land is generally sinking on the east coast and rising on the west coast. Nothing to do with the ocean…

YES, That’s repeated in places like the Pacific Islands. One even pushes soil down into the ocean below and they have water on their feet! –It’s gotta be CLIMATE CHANGE for reports by “experts”.
I turned down a Govt Job in Tarawa where the population should have been re-homed on the land available to them in Fiji!

Well Done Again, Willis Escenbach.

Boff Doff
May 6, 2024 5:22 am

When these “journalists” are tipped off about the Sargasso it will blow their minds!

Jeff Alberts
May 6, 2024 5:41 am

Sea levels, like temperatures, are always going up or down. It’s what they do. We’ve deluded ourselves into thinking that tiny blips on a meaningless graph (global whatever) are important somehow.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
May 6, 2024 7:27 am

Deluded so much that I believe the US military is spending millions of dollars to protect military bases along the Atlantic shore from future sea level rise!

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
May 6, 2024 8:22 am

While I am in agreement with the content of the article and many of the posts, I am a true skeptic and a skeptic never accepts conclusions without verification and always asks questions.

The tiny blips are probably meaningless, but they are important. It is the conclusions drawn from the blips that need to be challenged.

In fact, we need to also constantly question and challenge ourselves.
What if we have unidentified assumptions that bias our outlook?
What if we are missing a key piece of information.

Again, I am not challenging anything posted on this page. I am reminding myself that a major aspect of skepticism is due diligence.

ferdberple
May 6, 2024 8:44 am

Sea level rise stories appear whenever the rich and powerful want to buy up waterfront at a good price.

Reply to  ferdberple
May 7, 2024 10:00 am

Very cynical, but true!

RaAvim
May 6, 2024 9:33 am

I have a question, which may seem flippant, but I am truly trying to learn. If the sea level rises, does the water table also rise? Here in Texas, the water table is usually depleted faster than it accumulates during the summer months. And I know that most water tables are separated from salt water, or there would be big environmental issues. But thinking about the additional geographical pressures that would happen from a hypothetical 50 foot rise in sea level, would that impact the water tables at all?

Rud Istvan
Reply to  RaAvim
May 6, 2024 10:51 am

Can speak from south Florida experience. Where a fresh water lens floats over seawater in sand, if the sea level rises so will the fresh water lens. Like along our barrier island location. Otherwise, not at all.

The ‘climate’ fresh water problem you may have read about in the Pacific coral sand atolls—sea water intrusion into the fresh water lens—has nothing to do with sea level rise. As the growing islander population eventually consumes the fresh water faster than rain replenishes it, the salt water intrudes because the lens shrinks. Is a population problem, not a climate problem. There are two solutions. Reduce the atoll population to natural carrying capacity. Or introduce desalinization. The small island nations with this problem argue to the COPs (with a straight face) that they need climate reparations to pay for desal.

Really. See essay Carribean Water in ebook Blowing Smoke. In the Carribean Grenada leads the way, in the Pacific it’s Tuvalu. Climate nonsense.

May 6, 2024 10:38 am

The west coast of the the Americas’ lighter (alumino-silicate) continental tectonic plate is riding up over the denser (basaltic) Pacific Ocean basin tectonic plate. Not only is sealevel “dropping” along the western edge, but the Coastal Ranges and the Rockies/Andes, were even raised up from sealevel to their lofty peaks by this same tectonic mechanism operating over about 100 million yrs.

Iinitial breaking up of the single continent of Pangea began in the Permian 250 M ybp). The mountain ranges began as deep, large inland sedimentary basins under shallow seas. Horizonontal pressure of the push westward of the continental plates progressively squashed the basins and their sedimentary contents buckled and folded and were squished up into today’s western mountain ranges.

Ice melt today at this stage of the interglacial is a gnat on the bum of the tectonic elephant. Now is the time for beginning to worry about dropping sea levels and growth of global ice.

SteveZ56
May 7, 2024 10:00 am

[QUOTE FROM ARTICLE]”The record-breaking sea level is yet another data point showcasing a decades-long trend that is accelerating at a startling pace. As climate change worsens, the shoreline along much of the city will need new flood protections, such as berms, sea walls, and restored marshlands, as early as 2030, the latest available data provided by Boston plainly show.”

We should probably congratulate the Boston Globe for at least thinking of a practical solution to sea level rise, such as berms or sea walls. At a rate of 3 mm/year, they might have to build an inch-high (25.4 mm) sea wall over the next 8 years! If Boston could complete the Big Dig ten years ago, they could probably handle an inch-high sea wall. Maybe they should start with protecting Logan Airport, built right next to the shore.

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