Guest Post by Bob Tisdale
A study in Germany finds senior citizens are responsible for climate change. That’s right; they’re saying it’s all because of your (or you) grannies and gramps. From down under, a BBC editor in Australia believes her country warmed more than 90 deg C (160 deg F) since 1900. And back in Europe, in response to reports that climate change is the biggest global-health threat, there’s a new paper contradicting it. One paper says climate change is the worst thing for our future health and a rebuttal paper say nope, but they’re both science fiction. And then there’s the big goofiness taking place.
GERMANY
Pierre Gosselin of NoTrickZone reports on the news story that appeared in TAZ. (See the Google translation of the TAZ article Are seniors responsible for climate change?) Pierre writes in the opening of his post Germany’s Growing Green Dictatorship: Grandmothers Putting Climate Protection Targets “In Jeopardy”!:
Not only do the hysterical global warming bedwetters want us to do it with the lights off in unheated room with all our clothes on, now they are poised to request senior citizens to leave their cars in the garage and get around in the rain and snow by foot with their Rollators.
Read the rest here.
AUSTRALIA
In her post The Green Blob expands: BBC wants Australian ratings. Their editor Wendy Frew heats Aust by 90C., Jo Nova reports on a BBC News editor in Australia who managed to exaggerate the warming in Australia by a factor of 100. The BCC has corrected the story without noting the correction, so see the WaybackMachine archived version of the story Australia has hottest spring on record as temperatures soar (very slow to load.)
Jo Nova writes:
Their new Australian Editor, Wendy Frew, accidentally revealed that while she’s good at rearranging a press release and calling it news, she is not too good with numbers.
In a BBC article yesterday by Wendy Frew titled “Australia has hottest spring on record as temperatures soar” comes the extraordinary news that Australia has warmed by 90C since 1910.
“Australia has been warming up by about 0.9C [a year] since 1910,” Dr Braganza told the BBC.
That’ll hurt tourism down under. Read the rest here.
GREAT BRITAIN
Over at Bishop Hill, in his post Doctor, get a grip of yourself, Andrew Montford reminds us of the 2009 University College London (UCL) report Climate change: The biggest global-health threat of the 21st century, and then introduces a new paper contradicting the 2009 report, Is climate change the greatest threat to global health? with authors from… Well, I’ll let the Bishop tell it:
The health lobby’s contributions to the climate debate have been at best eccentric and typically irrational. Who can forget Andy Haines’ putting the cost of carbon at $1000 per tonne, for example? Or what about UCL’s Anthony Costello telling the world that climate change is the biggest threat to global health, sentiments echoed by Fiona Godlee at the BMJ here.
It’s amusing then to see a team of geographers from, erm, UCL, among them Mark Maslin, effectively telling the health lobby to get a grip…
Read the rest here.
So we have one report telling us that climate change is the biggest threat to our future health and another report contradicting it. That’s common place. Something else, though, is goofy about it.
Any and all prognostications of future climate are based on climate models. But the climate models used by the IPCC for their reports are not simulating climate on Earth. We know that because one of the lead authors of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th IPCC assessment reports confessed that back in 2007. See the post Seven Years Ago, An IPCC Lead Author Exposed Critical Weaknesses of the IPCC Foretelling Tools. Climate models are simulating climate on fantasy planets. Rephrased, they’re nothing more than computer-aided science fiction. They are definitely not simulating the planet we live on…the one we call home, Earth.
And we’re supposed to believe the foreseeings of future health that rely on science fiction?
I wonder what Star Trek’s Dr. McCoy would have to say about the hypothesis of human-induced global warming. Something along the lines of “…worse than dead…”
THE BIG GOOFINESS
The big goofiness is, of course, the UNFCCC Climate Change Conference taking place in Lima, Peru. Political delegates from countries around the globe have gathered in Lima to try to work out a new agreement to reduce emissions of greenhouse gas emissions…in an effort to limit global warming to a value established decades ago by politicians. Keep in mind, when the UNFCCC was created back in the early 1990s, the 1st IPCC Assessment Report was inconclusive about man’s role in global warming.
So what other global-warming goofiness from around the globe have you run across lately?
I have seen enough “goofiness” from the warmist brigade to last several millennia. I propose all Lima delegates leave by starship Enterprise to ‘boldly go’ to a planet of their elected choice.
We will have William “Bill’ Shatner (BS) to get Mk IX built real soon.
Ready to get going on a rescue mission in case you change your mind – which thankfully, you demonstrate ad nauseum is absolutely impossible. Cheerio!
‘So what other global-warming goofiness from around the globe have you run across lately?’
Nothing much, just the usual End-Of-The-World blatherings.
Is anybody reporting from Lima? I mean non-believers.
The UKMO has just claimed that 2014 will be the hottest year on record by 1.6C. Seems too early for such a claim to me and a bit too much. Perhaps that Australian BBC editor has done this report as well.
Just a clarification, that’s 1.6 deg for the UK, not the globe. Globally, only about 0.01 warmer. That’s one one-hundredth of a deg C:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2859232/2014-set-worlds-hottest-year.html
Bob, The satellites have this as a very warm year, but by no means the hottest. See http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/10/why-2014-wont-be-the-warmest-year-on-record/ All other things being equal, I’d be inclined to go with the satellite MSU data because of its global coverage. Am I missing something?
Or possibly the past is cooling faster than we thought
Love that!
It’s easy to proclaim hottest year on record before it happens when your cooking the books.
I have to admit that, now I am a gentleman of a certain age, I do have a regrettable tendency to contribute greenhouse gases to the atmosphere somewhat more frequently than I did when I was younger. I try to blame the cat.
Rubbish.
You have contributed the same amount at the same frequency all your life, you just notice it more now. Just be a man and own up to it – the poor cat doesn’t deserve the reputation you are giving it.
A pity the Mann won’t do the same thing.
The gentleman, RoHa, was told by his wife to get new hearing aids after loudly – in church no less — passing some of that gas and then telling her he had gotten a “silent one” out.
Does anyone know where to find the menu(s) for meals at the CONvention in Lima? I’m very curious to see what endangered species are being dined upon this year, at taxpayer expense.
Peru is known for its ceviche – tough on the fishes
Check the luxury hotels and first class flights.
Tofu, broiled in the open atmosphere using nothing other than infrared trapped by CO2.
… so cold, raw tofu and sushi’s on the menu.
CON-vention?
Je rigole…
Under every rock you find a crazy warmist. I found the Hannover bit just by entering “hannover Klima” in a searche engine – as Pierre was reporting about a climate-skeptical homeowner’s association congress in Hannover. And what do I find, the most marvelous bit of irrational lunacy. Bless their tiny minds.
…I wonder what Star Trek’s Dr. McCoy would have to say about the hypothesis of human-induced global warming. Something along the lines of “…worse than dead…”
Cap’n! This planet is infested with Global Warming fanatics! Beam me up!
Cue…..
This theory is simply not logical!
Ye canna break the laws of physics!
It’s worse than that – it’s disproved, Jim..
Make it go!
I’m getting a transmission from Michael Mann, but it doesn’t make sense…
Here in Santa fe our new Mayor wants to start a climate commission and on the commission is , of course, Sierra Club and other green group here…not one scientist…but the biggest joke..on the committee..a car dealer
Nothing like a used car salesman to sell an idea.
Denmark
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Klima-Energi-og-Bygningsministeriet/1470847959860982
“No Ice = no sex”-hear comedian Christina Sederqvists interpretation of climate change here:
video is a part of the project Global Weirding, which is funded by the Nordic Council of Ministers.
Read more here: http://www.globalweirding.is/here
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I kid you not. It is a very strange feeling living in this country.
“No ice = no sex” = (No sex = no children) = (no children = end of human race) therefore (No ice = end of human race). there is some nice warmist logic for you.
Absurd, never MSM-challenged conditional run-on sentences are alarmingly common in Climageddon theory.
I don’t know what is being said, but for the constant repetition of @barista@ I believe that he may be blaming Australia for Global warming, with the spread of coffee machines and baristas to all coffee shops in Australia. Gone are the days when they just put a spoonful of Nescafe into hot water – or a spoon full of Camp Coffee into a cup of very hot milk.
These coffee machines are warming the planet!
The video link above is wrong for some reason. I just copied it from the FB page.
The right one should be:
Could you change it and delete this post?
Nope, doesn’t work. Check the FB page.
More goofiness you may have missed.
I find this progression of ‘fear fables’ to be absolutely bizarre. Taller tales and more menacing conclusions. Well, If the warm folk can come up with this stuff, so can I (an admitted non-scientist). A few years ago, during a particularly cold winter. Al Gore stated (paraphrased) “Don’t you people know that global warming causes global cooling?!” Glory! The climate is self-correcting! Its true! The science really is settled. Let’s all go down to the pub, get outside of a couple of pints and enjoy a game of darts! (Or whatever they play in pubs these days.Is shove ha’penny still around?)
Its becoming very apparent that the desperation is increasing. They don’t want to debate or defend their hypothesis. Like an aggressive used care salesman, they want to close the deal TODAY – before any more true believers can change their minds.
JayB says: “I find this progression of ‘fear fables’ to be absolutely bizarre.”
And then the alarmists wonder why no one takes them seriously. Anyone with common sense laughs at them.
That would be a large part of the problem… sense isn’t all that common anymore and appears to be missing completely in both the media and political “classes.”
At the moment one of the most prominent bits of goofiness is the claim all over the media, blogosphere and twittersphere that 2014 is set to be the warmest year ever, beating 2010 by all of 0.01C. I have commented on this at
https://ipccreport.wordpress.com/2014/12/03/2014-might-be-0-01c-warmer-than-2010/
See also the blogs of Paul Homewood and Fabius Maximus.
I had forgotten the “worse than dead” line! ROFL! I have to remember that one for the alarmists!
“…brain’s missing…”Ooops. That should have read “…brain I gone…”
Antarctic melting…apparently.
http://uncovermichigan.com/content/22168-antarctic-ice-sheet-melting-faster-earlier-study
Ghost, did they specify a particular area of Antarctica or do they imply that the entire continent is melting? Although they seem to suggest that all of Antarctica is melting, I suspect they’re talking about the Thwaites Glacier in W. Antarctica. If that’s so, I miss the point of their alarm. Its been known for a while that this glacier is melting due to geothermal activity below the ice. If that’s true, they can ‘reduce emissions’ until the cows turn blue and it won’t make a bit of difference.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/09/uh-oh-study-says-collapsing-thwaites-glacier-in-antarctica-melting-from-geothermal-heat-not-co2-heat-effects/
I thought it was because old folks are gassy.
There is an awful joke in there somewhere, about final solutions for old people and being gassy. Don’t put anything past the leftists, it’s all been done before and will surely be done again.
With the solar minimum coming at us we will have to raise herds of
old people and force feed them large quantities of beans and sauerkraut
just to warm things up a bit.
Courtesy from my local council (the big green building in the background is the Belmont 16’s (sailing club). I live about 1km away.
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2738313/would-a-giant-prawn-help-us-see-levels-rise/?cs=2338
Germans are blaming grandmothers for global warming… now that is scary. I wonder what they plan to do about it?
But it didn’t work last time!
Over at phys.org today I see two articles almost side-by-side. The titles say it all: “UN weather agency: 2014 on track for hottest year” (Environment) and “New study explains the role of oceans in global ‘warming hiatus'” (Earth Sciences). Evidently the phys.org Environment desk is not on the same page as their Earth Sciences desk.
“Divide and conquer” – J. Caesar
Bob, you said “And then the alarmists wonder why no one takes them seriously. Anyone with common sense laughs at them.”
I’m not always able to find kids educated in the US with common sense. I would like to talk with some of Tony Phillips’ Earth To Sky Calculus group and find out what they’ve been taught on Carl Sagan (et al) and critical thought, and how they apply it to the information they are fed. Dr. Phillips has an obvious reason to parrot the warmist meme until NASA allows it’s scientists to get back to common sense research without penalties. My conscience would really bother me about programming these bright young scholars with unsound science that prepares them to accept and agree that destructive global policies be imposed on their generation
“A study in Germany finds senior citizens are responsible for climate change. That’s right; they’re saying it’s all because of your (or you) grannies and gramps.”
And the truly devilish part is, after grandma and grandpa are through with the climate, there won’t be any ice floes left to put them on.
I live in Oklahoma and crazy weather is part of everyday life. I lived through the drought and heat waves of the 1950s without air conditioning as a child and road my sled down the street for a week at a time several months later; then, that spring, I got to hide in the hall with police sirens wailing and golf ball sized hail pounding on the roof, as F5 tornadoes leveled whole communities and neighborhoods to our west.
A few years ago after a brutally hot summer with numerous 100 deg. F. days, the following winter my old home town got 24 inches of snow in one day and set an all time record of – 28 deg.F. Not much has changed. I’m, needless to say, not impressed by the panicky climate stories in the media.
Drunk birds are pretty goofy. And look Global Warming makes it worse!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/12/141203-drunk-birds-animals-science-winter-global-warming/
Believe it or not, this simple post is one of the ones that Sou (Miriam O’Brien) has chosen to comment on at HotWhopper. She must be really bored today. See my post at MoreOnMiriamO’Brien’sHotWhopper:
http://moreonmiriamobrien.wordpress.com/2014/12/04/miriam-obrien-says-the-unfunny-at-wuwt-and-australias-hottest-spring-on-record/
It includes a link to an archived version of Miriam’s post.
She is probably a closet skeptic, i think many of these warmies are questioning their whole belief system now.
Bob, this nobody has gotten under your skin. You are giving her blog too much of boost. If winning her soul over to the other side is your mission, it won’t work.
From the NoTrickZone piece:
“Meanwhile, German politicians, NGOs, and activists are all flying (some in first class) and burning tons of jet fuel (at taxpayer expense) all the way to South America – for the 20th climate conference which is aimed at finding ways to protect the climate….”
Quote:
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” — H.L. Mencken
Damned hypocrites….all of them.
“Australia has been warming up by about 0.9C [a year] since 1910,” Dr Braganza told the BBC.
I actually see this as hopeful. The newsperson has been steeped in a culture of imminent Climate catastrophe, Warmest Year Ever, potential extinction of the human race, etc. So, naturally she has internalized that this is a BIG BIG problem. Then she interviews this scientist, and he tells her that the earth as warmed 0.9 degrees since 1910. She dutifully writes it down, but then when she goes back to put together the story she sees the number in her notes and thinks “Huh? This isn’t scary Climate Doom.” So she connects the dots and thinks he must have meant 0.9 degrees PER YEAR, and inserts that into the story inside brackets.
I don’t see it as a story about ignorance or trying to scare people so much as a story where someone did a reality check and figured out for herself that the rhetoric didn’t match the data, leading to a bungled attempt to join the two together.
Now that her error was uncovered, I figure she has two paths to follow. Either she concludes that she has been duped by the alarmists and starts down the Skeptic path, or she suppresses her own common sense and jumps on the bandwagon where less than a degree of warming since 1910 guarantees certain death for humanity.
I wonder, has anyone told her that we are in an interglacial period and warming should be the norm?
when you say-
“Now that her error was uncovered, I figure she has two paths to follow”
you are thinking as a critical thinker. i doubt she is a critical thinker or she would have questioned the claims already. after realising her error, she would be thinking, well why does that not look right, the herd must be right so I will hop along to somewhere like BOM or sks with their multitude of half truths and cherry picked data to pick up some koolaid and drink liberally.
if the koolaid is strong enough, she will come out of it being annoyed only at the person/people that pointed out the error, and will be no less ignorant about the climate.
the start and end of the issue is the critical thinking which has been under sustained attack by many, and is in serious decline.
There are obviously valid scientific arguments about the truth or otherwise of the Global Warming question. If a theory that is making huge changes to the way we live (and die), you would think it would be absolutely worthy of a global conference devoted to scientific debate with opposing views presented.
That is what Lima should really be about.
Report warns of soaring risk of ‘mega-fires’ in B.C.
Firefighting won’t be enough to stop devastating fires; report calls for new emphasis on prevention
By Bethany Lindsay and Larry Pynn, Vancouver Sun December 4, 2014
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Report+warns+soaring+risk+mega+fires/10438378/story.html#ixzz3KyidzpxT
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Says 4C warming by 2050, report was written in April.
Garymount , please tell me that you dont take this front page on the cover of the Sun stuff seriously. Besides we will not be around to see if it pans out. This story will be buried in the archives and long forgotten about by then. The predictions are getting further and further away in the future for a reason. Linear extrapolation is only a theory in the climate domain.
Here is my comment to a comment on that post:
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Gary Mount · Simon Fraser University
Steve Brown It is provincial governments that are carbon taxing its citizens and not the federal government.
In 2 months it will be my 5 year anniversary of researching climate science full time. I know what the science says. My expert opinion; increasing CO2 is greening the planet, not causing global warming or climate change, and more CO2 is better.
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So Mike, no I don’t believe a word of it, but I do take it seriously as an affront to our freedoms… etc.
Here is some goofyness!
The Mayor of my earthquake ruined city of Christchurch is lobbying for more land confiscations, (a number of suburbs were cleared out after the earthquakes as the land was deemed to be un-buildable-although strangely most were riverside suburbs and not all properties were damaged. (Agenda 21 in action I believe )).
Now she is getting paranoid about sea level rise.
And so she should be as at 2 meters the CBD will be awash at high tide! Damn and they had a chance to move Christchurch when the earthquakes largely flattened it! (joke)
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/63768303/Christchurch-mayor-demands-sea-level-action
So reading carefully, you will notice that she feels the biggest problem will not be the confiscations, (the previous ones generally went without a hitch), but the possibility of legal action costing the council as it did in a similar case in another NZ city. I guess that city wasn’t inhabited by sheeple as Christchurch is.
My comment on the link points out how long it will be before a one meter rise will take effect – assuming that AGW and the melting of Greenland goes to plan.
All this leads to more certainty that Christchurch NZ is rapidly succumbing under the thrall of the UN under the IPCC and Agenda 21.
See my blog at http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com
Cheers
Roger
Roger – Maybe do some research on the New Orleans flooding experience. It sounds like a very familiar ‘takeover by the rich’ scenario.
Perhaps they want gran and gramps to opt for a Nembutal script a few decades earlier? … for love of Gaia … … well I suppose that’s one step-up from an Aztec pulling thousands of beating hearts out of the chest cavities for a Sun God … we are making progress.
With the solar minimum coming at us we will have to giant raise herds of
old people and force feed them large quantities of beans and sauerkraut
just to warm things up a bit.
probably the wildest claims about global warming were regarding the fish and squid etc
there are many here –
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
That AGW fraud has one beneficial side effect: “Global warming did serve a couple of useful purposes. The issue has been a litmus test for our political class. Any politician who has stated a belief in global warming is either a cynical opportunist or an easily deluded fool. In neither case should that politician ever be taken seriously again. No excuses can be accepted.” http://tinyurl.com/ptgrz34 & http://tinyurl.com/ot2hlp4
(I posted this on “Tips & Notes” earlier this week)
In BELGIUM, 11 local celebrities are planning to sue the government for not taking appropriate action against climate change.
The story is covered enthusiastically by the media, and on Tuesday morning Flemish state radio (!) was calling on the population to join the climate warriors (as they call themselves).
The celebrities say they are funded by “anonymous sponsors”. The government lawyers, of course, will be paid with tax money.
During the same broadcast on Flemish radio (VRT), one of the celebrities was confronted with a skeptic (Mr. Jan Jacobs if I remember well), who was not allowed to finish a single sentence, being interrupted all the time. When he finally raised his voice in an attempt to be heard, he was admonished (“you don’t have to shout”). The man was courageously trying to inject some science in the “debate”, but to no avail.
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In an Op-Ed on the blogsite of the same state broadcaster VRT (http://deredactie.be/permalink/1.2170779 ), an employee of the Flemish Green party states that “criticizing the climate activists is a form of denialism”. Actually, the word he uses is “negationism”, a Dutch word almost exclusively used in connection with Holocaust denialism. Mark how he extends his demonizing, not just to skeptics of global warming, but also to supporters who dare to criticize the methods of the activists.