The ‘Gore Effect’ Strikes Downunder

Craig Kelly, MP writes:

With Al Gore visiting Canberra today, it’s little surprise that the ‘Al Gore Effect’ has struck again.

The ‘Al Gore Effect’ is defined by the Urban Dictionary as;

“the phenomenon that leads to unseasonably cold temperatures, driving rain, hail, or snow whenever Al Gore visits an area to discuss global warming.”


There are countless examples of Al Gore visiting a city, only for freezing below normal temperatures to strike.

Simply the phenomenon of the ‘Al Gore Affect’ is Mother Nature laughing at Al Gore, as he jet sets around the world preaching that we are all doing to fry, Mother Nature turns on an icy blast of freezing weather.

In Canberra it was only last month that the Bureau of Meteorology foretold that Canberra was likely to experience “a dry and warmer-than-average winter”.

But as Al Gore rolled into Canberra – so to did blizzard conditions, icy temperatures and a big dump of snow in surrounding mountains.

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90 Responses to The ‘Gore Effect’ Strikes Downunder

  1. Al Gore may be the best thing going for skeptics. I think he damages the alarmist side more than anyone else. :-)

  2. Eric Worrall says:

    Freezing cold on the Fraser Coast up North of Canberra as well – normally I’m boasting about the T-shirt weather, but tonight, heaters going, wearing a wooly sweater…

    Thanks a bunch Al. America, you can take him back now.

  3. philjourdan says:

    Did not algore do one of those dog and pony shows last fall in Chicago? Maybe they will not let him back in after the winter they had this past year.

  4. MattN says:

    Can he please visit Virginia the 1st week of July?

  5. Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7 says:

    MattN says:
    June 25, 2014 at 6:49 am

    Can he please visit Virginia the 1st week of July?

    Now that Obama is out front on fighting climate change, perhaps AlGore should accompany POTUS on his next 7 or 9 golfing vacations, so they get a chance to discuss political strategy while waiting for the fairways to be cleared of snow.

  6. John says:

    I am sorry this dope is inflicting himself on Australians. Turn him back at the airport. Shameful man, making tons of money from pushing his lies like a drug dealer sells his wares.

  7. SIGINT EX says:

    Al still hasn’t figured out that Earth has two hemispheres and the one he is in is enjoying winter !

    Ha ha Al old boy. ;-D

  8. Ric Werme says:

    It seems to me that the Gore effect is spreading bot in area affected and in people infected. (My all time favorite instance was President Obama leaving the Copenhagen UN Climate COP a day early to get back to Washington before a blizzard shut down the airport.)

    I wish, I wish Al was speaking at the ICCC next month.

  9. JimS says:

    As long as Mr. Gore stays away from Canada, that will please me. We get enough cold snowy weather here as it is. I have been waiting for climate change for our nation for the last 30 years and have been thoroughly disappointed that it has yet to come. We do not need the kind of climate change Mr. Gore brings with him. Nosiree.

  10. H.R. says:

    Gore Effect: I’ve been following long enough that the first 2-3 times it was very, very funny. But it just keeps happening. It’s been several years now, and it is absolutely amazing the amount of times Al and cold weather blow into a town. I wonder if the bookies have stopped taking bets on the Gore Effect?

  11. Raven says:

    You think that’s weird.
    Al Gore today congratulated Clive Palmer (Palmer United Party) during a press conference announcing he [Clive Palmer] will be backing the repeal of the Oz carbon tax.
    It’s surreal.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-25/palmer-will-help-axe-carbon-tax-but-courts-gore-in-push-for-ets/5549938

  12. nc says:

    How much does Gore charge these days to save the world?

  13. ossqss says:

    The secondary Gore effect is a strong sense of nausea everytime I see his name. If inadvertently viewed, he can produce long periods of uncontrolled upchucking. Hearing the lisp can be deadly > sarc

  14. Ringo says:

    5 years or so ago, the wife and I went to Cancun in December for a vacation. Unbeknownst to us, the worldwide Global Warming Conference was being held at our hotel ( it was still called Global Warming back then). Lo and behold, a cold front comes through. It was the coldest week in Cancun in 60 years. Wind chills in the 30s. The sight of conference attendees walking around the grounds shivering brought a warm and fuzzy feeling to my heart.
    In the hotel bar one night, we met a totally intoxicated representative from South Africa. I laid my thoughts on him that it was all a hoax, he said ” It doesn’t matter, America must give us the money”. What else do you need to know?

  15. Resourceguy says:

    Invite him to the Outback. They could use some flash floods there.

  16. TJA says:

    You know that “algore” means “to cool” in Latin. As in the word Algor mortis.

  17. KenB says:

    Yes, though it will be interesting how the Media ends up classifying this strange alliance between Clive Palmer reputed multi millionaire with at least one law suit from the Chinese over a failed deal and Albert Gore standing shoulder to shoulder with Clive and then as usual Clive recants part of his speech in later news “clarification” on when and if the ETS will force the governments hand, but yes the Carbon Tax will provisions will be repealed. Al Gore may well regret this media event as Clive comes over as a very unpredictable tricky person who got into politics when his coal lease approvals did not come through as he expected and who knows what he will say or do in the future to embarrass big Al. Follow the action as this unfolds over the next few months. Who is using who in this political climate zoo!
    PS it is extremely cold, perhaps Big Al could head to Iraq and cool things down there next!!

  18. Mumbles McGuirck says:

    Resourceguy says:
    June 25, 2014 at 8:32 am

    Invite him to the Outback. They could use some flash floods there.
    —————————————————————————————————————–
    The only Outback he’s interested in is the steakhouse. “Double porterhouse, please.”

  19. Joel O'Bryan says:

    It would be fitting for Al Gore to find himself in a Castaway-like situation (The movie with Tom Hanks) on his long trans-Pacific flight to/from Down under. Having him re-enter society after 5 years of absence, only to find it no warmer.The best part would be when he asks about carbon fueled cap and trade and the IPCC. He would be told that unfortunate period when Alarmists attempted to destroy the world’s economies with their anti-carbon energy crusades, were just fading bad memories to be forgotten. Forgotten as a string of multiple bone chilling winters across the globe and growing cryosphere ice put all his Inconvenient Truths into the history books as Convenient Lies.

  20. CaligulaJones says:
  21. alexwade says:

    The obvious solution to global warming is send Big Al to every place where there is a heatwave. The heat will be so scared of his presence that it will want to leave days in advance of his arrival.

  22. Louis says:

    Al Gore may not have been the inspiration for “Love Story,” as he claimed, but is it possible that he inspired Al Cap to create the character Joe Btfsplk for Li’l Abner?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Btfsplk

  23. Berényi Péter says:

    @TJA

    You know that “algore” means “to cool” in Latin. As in the word Algor mortis.

    Wow. You are right. Nominative determinism rulez.

  24. Pointman says:

    Gott mit uns.

    Punktmann

  25. gary turner says:

    Eric Worrall says:
    June 25, 2014 at 6:47 am
    “Thanks a bunch Al. America, you can take him back now.”

    You’ve got him, you keep him.

    cheers,

    gary

  26. Resourceguy says:

    Put him to work shoveling coal.

  27. Richard says:

    And in the meantime:

    “US GDP shrinks 2.9% in first quarter

    The unusually cold weather in the first quarter of the year has been blamed for the poor performance of the economy.”

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28012760

  28. Mike H. says:

    What Gary said…

  29. Richard says:

    Al Gore – I invented the internet and Global Warming. Global warming has even effected my marriage. There was a pause followed by cooling. It has been named the “Gore Effect”.

  30. M Seward says:

    As an Aussie I have been worried at the mess that Clive Palmer and his little tribe of pet retard Senators might create in the Senate for the Government…. and then Clive turned up with Al Gore!! I am quite relaxed now, Palmer has found his level, like the water in the toilet bowl after flushing and the future is revealed.

    Since he takes votes from the right of our political spectrum, I am wondering what his constituency is thinking? (Well thinking in the sense that a rabbit or a sheep thinks – sorry rabbits and sheep, I know that’s an offensive association but unfortunately you are not great intellects and someone has to speak frankly)

  31. Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7 says:

    gary turner says:
    June 25, 2014 at 9:53 am

    Eric Worrall says:
    June 25, 2014 at 6:47 am

    “Thanks a bunch Al. America, you can take him back now.”

    You’ve got him, you keep him.

    “If you like your Al Gore, you can keep your Al Gore. And if you don’t like your Al Gore, you can still keep him”.

    Poor Al, he just don’t get no respect.

  32. Mac the Knife says:

    Richard says:
    June 25, 2014 at 10:06 am
    And in the meantime:
    “US GDP shrinks 2.9% in first quarter
    The unusually cold weather in the first quarter of the year has been blamed for the poor performance of the economy.”

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28012760

    Richard,
    The major ‘chill’ affecting the US economy is incompetent national leadership, driving incompetent monetary, energy, regulatory, and economic policies.

    The Weather Did It….” was the Obama excuse used today because absolutely no one will buy the “Bush Did It…. excuse anymore.
    Mac

  33. Janice says:

    Since it has been scientifically proven (correlation is causation) that the presence of Mr. Gore produces cold weather (weather is not climate), it is obvious what we must do. We must move Mr. Gore to the geographic North Pole. He will require some sort of shelter, of course, and some supplies flown in from time to time, weather permitting. But this will save the Arctic ice! No need to reduce or restrict carbon dioxide emissions or restrict the use of petroleum products. Just by placing Mr. Gore up at the North Pole, we will not only prevent the ice from collapsing further, we will probably see it grow and thrive (anthropomorphic allusion to satisfy the tree-huggers). We will save the world!!!

  34. Ben U. says:

    Ric Werme says:
    June 25, 2014 at 7:06 am

    My all time favorite instance was President Obama leaving the Copenhagen UN Climate COP a day early to get back to Washington before a blizzard shut down the airport

    Other big ones: In 2007, snow and ice storms across the US when Gore won an Oscar: Academy Warned
    In 2012, Gore, Branson, and others voyage to Antarctica and the temps in their vicinity plunge 27 F degrees below normal:
    The Gore Effect kicks in, plus ça change …

  35. jones says:

    Hmm..The Antarctic also seems a smidgeon on the large side too lately…………..

    .
    http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.recent.antarctic.png

  36. I have asked -
    Is Al Gore looking for a high political role post Obama in 2016?
    http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=3087

  37. Peter Ward says:

    Pointman says:
    June 25, 2014 at 9:52 am
    Gott mit uns.

    +1

  38. Jaakko Kateenkorva says:

    Did Al destroy Mike’s hockey stick by zigzagging the troposphere? Fortunately Aussies know how to construct Deepsea Challenger type submersibles and could ship Al back in one of those. The speed of about 3 knots (3.5 mph) should chase the missing heat back to the atmosphere.

  39. KNR says:

    If it makes anyone feel better St Gore’s private has not go the range to get to Australia so he would have to have gone commercial instead. First class of course after all you cannot expect him to ‘slum it ‘

  40. latecommer2014 says:

    The reason I first started investigating AGW was Al Gore. I KNEW that if he was supporting this idea it was a lie. When he claimed that he was the inventor of the internet , I knew that he couldn’t be trusted to tell the truth. At that point I began to read research being done pro and con, and it didn’t take long for me to understand that his “science” wash video games. The fact that anyone listens to him at all is an indictment against the education system and evidence of the lack of intelligent thought of all the “useful idiots”. It is a very sad commentary on our civilization that deceivers like him are believed by anyone.
    So in a strange way I am grateful to this moron for what I have learned in the last 15 years.

  41. AP says:

    Does a hooker charge more if you want to take them to dinner after your press conference?

    http://www.celebritytalent.net/sampletalent/3403/al-gore/

    Meanwhile Professor Clive continues to develop his 40 million tonne per annum coal mine…

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-21/waratah-coal-welcomes-approval-of-galilee-basin-mine/5170912

  42. Brendan says:

    This is hilarious. One can only surmise that Gore has been totally hoodwinked. He stood next to a celebrated buffoon of Australian politics, and endorsed that man repealing our carbon tax, and promising to bring in an ETS ‘when all our trading parties do’.

    And Gore was their to approve!

    Here’s just a couple of ‘Inconvenient Truths’ about Al’s new pal.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/a-couple-of-inconvenient-truths-mr-vicepresident/story-e6frg6n6-1226967014997

    Does Gore know that Palmer claims to have a deal to export $60 billion worth of coal to China over the next 20 years from his big holding in Queensland’s Galilee Basin?

    Does Gore know Palmer’s Waratah Coal was given approval late last year to build a thermal coal project near Alpha in central-west Queensland?

    Does Gore know Palmer operates a polluting nickel refinery, Queensland Nickel?

    Does Gore know Palmer incurred millions of dollars in penalties for refusing to pay his carbon tax bill on time?

    Does Gore know that Palmer owns a fleet of cars and planes, and it is doubtful that he counts a Toyota Prius among his collection, and it is unclear whether he claims carbon offsets when he flies in his private 19-seat Bombardier jet?

    Does Gore know that just three months ago his new-found green ally was declaring that there has been global warming for a long time and it’s all part of the natural cycle because “all of Ireland was covered by ice at one time, there were no human inhabitants in Ireland’’.

    Does Gore know that Palmer asked why carbon reduction had to focus on “the 3 per cent that’s contributed by man’’ instead of the “97 per cent that’s contributed by nature’’?

    Does Gore know that Palmer is in an alliance with Ricky Muir from the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party, which advocates more spending on roads, and relishes the odd burnout?

    Unbelievable

  43. David Chappell says:

    A fascinating what-if. What if algore had won instead of Dubya, would Florida now be deep under an ice sheet?

  44. Daisy of Tasmania says:

    When I turned on the tv and saw Gore and Palmer together I thought that the end of the world had indeed come. With two such oxygen thieves in the same room it’s a wonder everyone in the surrounding building didn’t suffocate.

  45. Plain Jane says:

    I had booked in to take a week and catch up on some horse riding in the Snowy Mountains this week. Now I know who to blame for my loss of holiday. There should be a website with Al Gore’s itinerary on it so people can check in advance and take preventative action.

  46. hp says:

    Anti-Semites! Anti-Semites! Anti-Semites
    Oh, whoops … wrong article. (you’re still anti-Semites)

  47. Goldie says:

    He the rain man of climate change….”it’s definitely going to be hotter, definitely, definitely……….definitely”.

    I trust he flew Qantas.

  48. Jean Parisot says:

    God is laughing, so am I.

  49. adam says:

    Did he travel economy class? Can somebody at wuwt who knows transport write about how much co2 he emitted and how much he spent on flights to deliver his stupid message.

  50. rogerthesurf says:

    We should invite Al to New Zealand! The skiing here this winter is lousey so far!

    Cheers

    Roger
    http://www.rogerfromnewzealand.wordpress.com

  51. clipe says:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/25/the-gore-effect-strikes-downunder/#comment-1669167

    Wasn’t it Peter Oosterhius who once referred to the” Outback Steakhouse” blimp during a PGA tournament as the Outhouse Steakback?

    Was Gore in town at the time?

  52. Gunga Din says:

    Eric Worrall says:
    June 25, 2014 at 6:47 am

    Freezing cold on the Fraser Coast up North of Canberra as well – normally I’m boasting about the T-shirt weather, but tonight, heaters going, wearing a wooly sweater…

    Thanks a bunch Al. America, you can take him back now.

    ===================================================================
    Thanks, but no thanks….but maybe we can send him to whichever pole is supposed to melting this week?

  53. bushbunny says:

    Don’t worry about Clive Palmer, he’s into mining etc., but he would have fun with Al Gore if they meet. He is a master of ridicule and he doesn’t care what he says. Role on July 1st when the new senators take over. But Gore will be aiming at the Greens and Labor who will vote against the repeal of course.

  54. lee says:

    Well it’s warmer here in the South west of Western Australia, relatively, 8 C. Thank you Al for taking the cold to Canberra.

    on another note-
    KNR says:
    June 25, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    If it makes anyone feel better St Gore’s private has not go the range.

    Way too much information ;)

  55. Mervyn says:

    Both Al Gore and Australia’s Tim Flannery are the best friends of skeptics. It can almost be guaranteed that when they make a prediction about global warming or about droughts or about hurricanes, or about whatever else tickles their fancy, they will almost always get it wrong! It’s as though Mother Nature is purposely being cruel to them… dishing them punishment for spreading climate alarmist nonsense.

  56. alexwade says:
    June 25, 2014 at 9:31 am

    The obvious solution to global warming is send Big Al to every place where there is a heatwave. The heat will be so scared of his presence that it will want to leave days in advance of his arrival.

    Hmm, Algore does travel around a lot. Could THIS be the reason for “the pause.”

  57. Henry chance says:

    Ric Werme says:
    June 25, 2014 at 7:06 am
    It seems to me that the Gore effect is spreading bot in area affected and in people infected. (My all time favorite instance was President Obama leaving the Copenhagen UN Climate COP a day early to get back to Washington before a blizzard shut down the airport.)

    WUWT had a contest to post the expression from Obama to post as a caption to the picture. The prize was a bag of salt. I won the contest and the salt prize was a lie I never got the prize. I am sure this won’t get posted.

  58. Lewis P Buckingham says:

    bushbunny says:
    June 25, 2014 at 7:42 Palmer and Gore were on the same podium.
    Palmer is to vote to abolish the carbon tax.
    Al thinks this is good because an emissions trading scheme will be the consequence.
    Our last one put carbon at $24 a tonne.
    The world price,European is $ 8.
    For China it is $o as they got their credits for free.
    Not sure where this is going.
    Carbon may well end up being worthless.
    To bring in such a scheme in Australia you need support in the lower house, which is not there for the ALP/Greens no longer hold the majority.

  59. bushbunny says:

    Doesn’t worry Gore, he has his own plane I think. He’ll suggest the cold reception in Canberra was because of extreme weather event caused by global warming. And Clive met the PM and it was considered a constructive meeting with no details. How can they discuss an ETS when it was abolished by K Rudd and Julia said in her political statements ‘There’ll be no carbon tax in any government I lead..’ The mind of Clive is hard to fathom sometimes, other than he isn’t to be trusted.

  60. Brent Walker says:

    Really how could he in all conscience stand on a stage next to Clive Palmer while Clive announces his Senators would repeal the carbon tax. In this single act Palmer has converted the Goracle to Goradill!

  61. Billmelater says:

    I wish Al Gore would stay in Australia. This year has been unseasonably warm, with birds never seen here before, coming down from the warmer climates, summer crops still producing well into winter and very low rainfall.

    I would particularly like Al to be here over summer. It has been getting that hot during the last few summers, my wife has wanted to get air conditioning. With Al around we won’t need it.

    Please stay Al you are needed here.

  62. bushbunny says:

    Blind ignorance or get in the press, Gore I can’t fathom why he even bothered to come to Oz, it seems to bring attention to the arse he is in supporting AGW and carbon credit schemes? If the carbon tax is repealed what would the point be for having carbon credits anyway.

  63. Cold in Wisconsin says:

    How can the tanking American economy be because of the weather? Has the economy tanked every time there was a cold winter? Are there proportional effects to the economy in a moderately cold winter, like decreasing by 1% per quarter if there are fewer cold days? Where is the scientific basis upon which this association is made? Is economics a science at all? Or have they just been cooking the books for the last few years telling us it was better than it actually was.

    And by the way, it is still cold in Wisconsin even though it is officially summer. I’m tired of this.

  64. puffytmd says:

    Changes in weather is not the same as changes in climate. So there is no comfort in cold weather as a rebuttal to the science of global warming.

  65. The Infidel says:

    OH al, don’t you know that God thinks you are his personal joke of the century?

    If you want to make God laugh, tell him what your plans are.

    Al says it’s going to boil, so God makes it freeze, rain, blizzard etc. so lets get Al to go to every drought area in the world, set up a stage with global video links, let him say it will never rain ever again, and vola the drought is finished.

    The Infidel

  66. PaulC says:

    Still no like button – some great comments here.

    Not sure if this was noticed, but today the

    “VICTORY! I – and the entire Liberal National Coalition – just voted in the House of Reps to repeal the carbon tax. It now goes to the Senate where it will also be passed in about 2 weeks’ time.”

    and

    “Another great piece of news! The MRRT repeal has also passed the lower house and is expected to pass the Senate when presented.”

    Interesting time ahead

  67. ozspeaksup says:

    the goracle is actually here to brainwash some 500 ecoloons to go preach the agword of gore to the iggerent masses..
    so he will earn himself another pile of green,and hopefully bugger off back asap!
    meanwhile
    aus needs to fund DEprogramming centres to fix the twisted minds of his converts:-(

  68. Erik Hansen says:

    Gore was in Norway a few years back to – as you perhaps know it’s not a joke – receive the Nobel Peace Price. After he left we had the Three coldest Winters for more than a hundred years. Being Norway that really says a lot! We hope he’ll never Return …

  69. David Chappell says:

    Brent Walker; “…Palmer has converted the Goracle to Goradill!”

    Or did you mean Goradildo?

  70. philjourdan says:

    @MattN – I second that! ;-)

  71. Resourceguy says:

    Send him out on a boat to Antarctica. I hear it’s just beautiful this time of year.

  72. Tanya Aardman says:

    Australian Snow Season started early and is already got very good coverage and they’re predicting a bumper season -so much for the death of the Skiing industry

  73. Ben U. says:

    TJA says:
    June 25, 2014 at 8:33 am

    You know that “algore” means “to cool” in Latin. As in the word Algor mortis

    This has been noticed before, that the ancients knew! Gore Effect Goes Way Back (trigger warning, Tim Blair). The ancient Latin word is algor, stressed on the first syllable like in “Igor” or “Alvin.” It means coldness or the cold. It is also the word from which we get “algae,” but Algore is not all washed up in any financial sense, despite the failure of his maniacal manbearpig efforts to prove that he is not boring. He hasn’t endlessly shuffled his papers for nothing.

  74. Billmelater says:

    I notice a lot of ad hom attacks on Al Gore on this thread. I think it is rather poor form allowing these comments to be posted on such a highly esteemed science blog.

    All it does is re-inforce the impression that the anti global warming movement have no other arguments and supporters of the anti AGW push are nothing than nasty name callers who cannot think through the scientific arguments. This is doing the cause a lot of damage as 97% of climate scientists are making great progress in collecting data and explaining the climate change we are experiencing. They must be challenged with good quality science and not abuse. Stick to the science and leave the abuse at home where it belongs.

  75. KenB says:

    Billmelater says:

    June 26, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    I like your “Bill me later” that really resonates with Australians, that is exactly what got us into the Labor Green Economic chaos, that the Abbott government is trying to recover, so that we wont suffer the Bill me later effects as unexpected expenses hit our doorstep. The Labor/green alliance spent on expensive schemes like the pink insulation batt rollout so rushed and badly administered that young Australians died to install the stuff. The green renewable energy subsidies that ran up everyones electricity bills to prop up this expensive power scheme that we didn’t need to have along with the lost monies on Flannery’s deep hot rock steam drilling project that collapsed, the list of waste is enormous and of course the bills are coming in for this and future generations to pay, in both state and Federal schemes we are still saddled with debt payments far into the future even after voting out the incompetents and we still have the legacy of unions and the socialist left of the greens noisily demanding that they are entitled to such largesse from the Australian taxpayer, and the same economy destroyers standing in the way of any recovery and productivity based job creation growth in this country.

    I think we well know that science as it used to be pre AGW has been corrupted with the false adoption and demonization of CO2. It is time to dump that warmist bunkum and yes get back to traditional and falsifiable science, as the other mealy mouthed substitute version has pointed us down a path of economic self destruction

    Al Gore and his celebrated lies to promote and protect the continued funding of that meme deserves all the condemnation and scorn we can muster!

    Paying our way and living within our means is a great step to rebuilding a sustainable economy and a great base to enable investment in research and education unfettered by climatology agenda and ideology and a return to the trust of science and scientists, and that should suit 100 percent of actual scientists.

  76. Billmelater says:

    KenB, I disagree with you. You are at home heaping scorn, but it is unbecoming of a scientific blog. ‘Terms such as ‘demonization of CO2′ has no currency in science. It is an anthropogenic projection on an inmate substance.

    I see that you have had some scientific training and understand the concept of falsifiable science (although not normally expressed that way, but I understand what you mean). Therefore statements such as carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is increasing. These two facts could explain the the increaseing trend in the surface temperatures. These are clear statements that can be challenged.

    While you hold very strong views which I applaud you for, but relying on abuse, scorn naming calling etc, doesn’t help,explain why your views are worth considering. It makes you look as looney as the fellow who claims the world is coming to an end. It is an unsubstantiated opinion.

    And by the way, you must not accept statements of people who want to scare you. A report this morning has declared the australian economy is very strong. Not the basket case Tony claims. Once again his claims rely on your ignorance or laziness not to check.

  77. dbstealey says:

    Billmelater,

    I agree 100% with your interest in falsifiable science. But I fear you are mistaking what scientific skeptics are saying.

    It is the climate alarmist crowd that demonizes “carbon” [by which they mean carbon dioxide, a compound]. They do the demonizing, not skeptics. They are the name-callers. They are the people who will not debate. They are the ones who will not show their data, methods, metadata or methodologies.

    Alarmists are pseudo-scientists. They do not want the truth, if it conflicts with their narrative. Skeptics would like nothing better than to get as close to scientific truth as possible — no matter where it leads. If CO2 is dangerous, we want to know. But if it is harmless and beneficial, we want to know that, too. We want knowledge, while they want power. And they will lie and demonize CO2 to get it.

    Sometimes we have to fight fire with fire. Because sometimes, there is no alternative.

  78. Billmelater says:

    Dbstealy, you state’They are the ones who will not show their data, methods, metadata or methodologies.’, yet they do publish their research their peer reviewed scientific publications.

    However if you can show me where they are hiding their data, methods etc, I am interested.

  79. bushbunny says:

    Obviously Gore into Clean or Green energy, and Clive did mention we should leave the clean energy commission alone. Well if Gore has interests why would he come all the way to Australia to protect his investments.

  80. el gordo says:

    ‘However if you can show me where they are hiding their data, methods etc, I am interested.’

    Its hard to know where to begin, as you appear to be a late starter. Have you heard of the East Anglia University emails or maybe the hockey stick graph?

  81. Billmelater says:

    El Gordon, yes and yes. The emails have been exonerated by three separate enquiries, and reading the smoking gun, I am surprised that they could be construed as anything significant. Not sure of the hockey stick business as I never looked into it. But out of the 12,000 articles published last year on climate change, not one was written by a skeptic!

  82. metro70 says:

    Bill me later—–if you’re for real…

    What do you call an inquiry to which a warmist government appoints as its head , a man with such a warmist bias that he has a massive personal vested interest in finding the charges against warmist scientists have no basis.ie his personal wealth will suffer if the inquiry finds the charges true?

    I call it a sham and a scam—along with the other two similarly questionable inquiries that the UK government should be thoroughly ashamed of—a disgrace to a government that purports to be democratic. There should be international inquiries into the UK inquiries themselves.

    But this is the hallmark of this CAGW issue.

    It’s supposed to be the greatest moral, scientific and economic issue of our times—and yet so many of its rabid proponents have a massive personal pecuniary vested interest in promoting only the answers that are helpul to their coffers, with complete disregard for science and for democracy .

    They want anything that interferes with their gravy train nobbled and neutralized , including alternative scientific opinion , and their ruthlessness to those ends knows no bounds.

    A week or so ago we here in Australia had Lord Deben, UK chairman of the Committee on Climate Change and honorary president of Global Legislators Organisation (Globe), defaming us and our Prime Minister , saying..

    [ "I think the Australian government must be one of the most ignorant governments I've ever seen in the sense, right across the board, on immigration or about anything else, they're totally unwilling to listen to science or logic," he said.]

    But the aforementioned Lord Deben has just a smidgin of a vested interest in CAGW being flogged to us all as an extraordinary threat requiring extraordinary measures—and he’s been given extraordinary licence in the UK to further his own personal ends.

    The tentacles of Lord Deben’s investments—and those of his wife and children reach into numerous companies in the UK and internationally, the fortunes of which depend very very largely on the whole world being alarmed and staying alarmed and hysterical about CO2-induced CAGW.

    He and his family stand to lose a lot of money should the alternative science be unshackled and should leaders like ours refuse to clobber our economies to make the likes of Deben and Gore richer than Croesus.

    Deben’s attack on Australia was then followed by the visit by Gore, who likes to come to Oz when he thinks he can sway our elections with his propaganda as he did in 2007—or in this case assist the Left to mount a virtual coup, in the interests of CAGW and his own coffers.

    His 2007 interference gave us six years of the worst government we’ve ever had to endure, and the world’s largest by far crippling carbon tax

    This time– luckily— he miscalculated , and looking decidedly green about the gills , and not in a nice way—did a runner after the press conference , just barely escaping our rabidly warmist ‘journalists’, terrified that he might be asked one inconvenient question. He needn’t have worried though—any questions from them would have been CAGW-serving, and right up his alley.

    Can’t be too careful when money’s at stake though—never mind about democracy and all that.

    The vested interests of these carbon-guzzling carpet-baggers must be outed before we go any further, because they’ll do anything —destroy any country—to fill their own coffers .

    And you appear to just be one of their useful and indispensable gullibles, Bill.

  83. Here in NY we had one of the coldest winters on record. If im correct it should be even colder this winter. This is just a BS Ponzi scam to make money using the air of all things. During the mid 70′s they said we were heading for an ice age. Then 10 years later were too hot. something tells me in 2 years or more we’ll be too cold again.

  84. Jeff Alberts says:

    That’s because Gore is so gigantic he blocks out the sun.

  85. John from Oz says:

    Al, please go away so that Global Warming can return. Queenslanders don’t do winter well and by visiting us you managed to get our overnight temps down to single figures.
    Thank goodness Queensland has Al Gore’s newest buddy, Clive Palmer, with all his coal mines. If Clive can just increase the production from his mines the local temperatures might return to a more acceptable level.
    Being cold is so uncomfortable.
    Bring back the warming!

  86. Johnnyg says:

    I would really appreciate it if Al would come to St. Louis for the 4th of July Holliday Weekend. It is typically a very hot, humid miserable weekend. We would like the Gore Effect cooling for a few days.

  87. Billmelater says:

    Metro70, what can I say, but you have definitely Sussed-out the conspiracies. Thanks for that.

    Oh by the way, I have something that May interest you, but I can’t talk about it on the Internet because I am scared they may track me down and I might disappear. you know what I mean.

  88. metro70 says:

    Very droll…Billmelater.
    It’s the refuge of the ‘oh so cool’ Left —we’ve seen it all before—you’re anything but original.

    You’re not so cool that you can refute the facts about those inquiries—and about Deben et al though are you?

    If you could you would.

    Too dangerous to go there—you might actually have to deal in facts–those pesky inconvenient things that are toxic to warmists—to be avoided at all costs.

    Better for a warmist to dodge and weave—manipulate—throw a few hand grenades here and there—even corrupt democracy—anything to avoid facing the dreaded reality.

    It must be really hard to maintain that tunnel vision your belief system imposes on you.

  89. bushbunny says:

    Billmelater, if you had such controversial information, they would have sussed you out already. There are too many bulshh artists around right now, and I fear you may be seen as one of them. So say your piece and worry about the consequences later.

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