Obama invokes ‘tauntology’ in discussing climate skeptics

There’s tautology:

In grammar, the use of redundant words. In logic, a tautology is a formula which is true in every possible interpretation. Philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein first applied the term to redundancies of propositional logic in 1921

and then there is tauntology:

The practice of making remarks in order to anger, wound, or provoke someone.

Which one do you think our ‘commander in chief’ prefers?  Obama gave a speech to an audience of college graduates at University of California, Irvine in which he expounded on his advanced views of climate change:

“They say, ‘Hey, look, I’m not a scientist.’ And I’ll translate that for you: what that really means is, ‘I know that manmade climate change really is happening but if I admit it, I’ll be run out of town by a radical fringe that thinks climate science is a liberal plot,’” he said.

“There’s going to be a stubborn status quo and people determined to stymie your efforts to bring about change. There are going to be people who say you can’t do something. There are going to be people who say you shouldn’t bother trying. I’ve got some experience with this myself,” Obama said.

“It’s pretty rare that you’ll encounter somebody who says the problem you’re trying to solve simply doesn’t exist. When President Kennedy set us on a course to the moon, there were a number of people who made a serious case that it wouldn’t be worth it,” he continued.

“But nobody ignored the science. I don’t remember anybody saying the moon wasn’t there or that it was made of cheese,” Obama said.

Wow, grade school level logical fallacy. How…unpresidential.

I’m sure Obama’s mind, the taunting of the significant percentage of people in the United States who don’t think climate change is a significant problem worth doing something about is a winning strategy.

worrying_topics

From: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/12/new-gallup-poll-shows-climate-change-near-the-bottom-of-things-worth-worrying-about/

 

Brookings-survey-results-issues

From: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/11/despite-climate-edicts-from-the-white-house-even-liberals-dont-think-climate-change-is-a-top-priority/

Except in this case, Obama isn’t smart enough to realize that divide and conquer isn’t a winning strategy. Of course when you feel like you can do things without a mandate, and just dictate policy instead of following the path of democracy, I suppose the phrase “what difference does it make?” might apply to unpresidential tauntology.

About these ads
This entry was posted in Climate ugliness, Politics, Satire. Bookmark the permalink.

163 Responses to Obama invokes ‘tauntology’ in discussing climate skeptics

  1. mwhite says:

    I’ll say it

    The problem you’re trying to solve simply doesn’t exist.

  2. Dan Sudlik says:

    A great description of the President. I wish I could remember who said it. He is a pyromaniac in a field of straw men.

  3. Dave says:

    Perhaps B Hussein doesn’t care about any of those issues listed above climate change.

  4. Joanna says:

    Sad really–has no intellectual tools to evaluate the science for himself and see how flawed it is, just jumps on the bandwagon and starts calling names. Useful idiocy goes all the way to the top.

  5. Gary says:

    I disagree with the President. Cool. He disagrees with me. Even cooler. In America it is cool to disagree with the status quo. One might say it’s my Patriotic Duty to disagree with the nation’s President, I mean, if the moon really really is made of cheese.

  6. ferdberple says:

    Climate Change is safe. It will take years before anyone finds out the effects of Obama’s policies. Climate is motherhood and apple pie, saving the future for the children.

    The other issues, they are a different thing all together. People find out right away if economic policies are failures. Thus Obama avoids talking about these items, hoping that everyone else will be distracted enough by Climate to not talk about them either. Especially with mid-term elections in the fall.

  7. Quinn the Eskimo says:

    He’s fixed the economy and health care and the Middle East, why not let him fix the weather?

  8. Box of Rocks says:

    ferdberple says:
    June 15, 2014 at 6:13 am

    But the economy is wonderful… the Dow Jones Industrial Average is over 16,000 with new highs!

    /sarc

  9. pat says:

    i just posted the Daily Mail version on the “lousy data” thread. i haven’t stopped laughing since i read it:

    15 June: Daily Mail: AP: Denying climate change is like saying the moon is made of cheese, argues Obama as he takes on global warming deniers at commencement speech.
    He says Congress is ‘full of folks who stubbornly and automatically reject the scientific evidence’ of climate change
    While in Orange County, the president also attended a closed-door fundraiser at the Laguna Beach home of Getty oil heiress Anne Earhart…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2658079/Denying-climate-change-like-saying-moon-cheese-argues-Obama-takes-global-warming-deniers-commencement-speech.html

    this guy wants people to pay skyrocketing electricity prices to keep the CAGW scam going!

    15 June: ABC: Obama Longs to Break out of White House Bubble
    RANCHO MIRAGE, Calif. By NEDRA PICKLER Associated Press
    “I think frankly we’ve all been through a cold and bitter winter and the bear has cabin fever,” said Obama friend and senior adviser Valerie Jarrett. “His cabin is a little bit bigger and harder to escape than most.”…
    Obama interspersed his four-day weekend with official duties, including Democratic Party fundraising, a speech on climate change and calls to his national security adviser discussing military options to stop a violent insurgency in Iraq…
    Obama has taken three weekends away in a golf-friendly place this year after kicking off 2014 on the links in Hawaii.
    The Obama family also is planning a longer-than-usual summer vacation to Martha’s Vineyard for two weeks in August, where last summer the president golfed nearly every day on the island.
    Obama has golfed every weekend since Washington’s weather got clear enough to allow it in April, save a week when he was in Asia…
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-longs-break-white-house-bubble-24144367

  10. I’ve never said record antarctic sea ice was made of cheese. What kind of drugs is Obama on if he thinks people are telling him climate data contrary to AGW is made of cheese?

  11. iron308 says:

    what Quinn said ^

  12. BoomBoom says:

    On JFK’s decision to go to the moon, Obama said, “I don’t remember anybody saying the moon wasn’t there or that it was made of cheese,” Sorry to say, Obama wasn’t even born when JFK made his request for the moon program before Congress and worse yet, Obama had just turned one when JFK made his famous Rice University “We choose to go to the moon” speech.

  13. iron308 says:

    What Quinn said.

  14. ferdberple says:

    When President Kennedy set us on a course to the moon, there were a number of people who made a serious case that it wouldn’t be worth it,” he continued.
    ===============
    same argument today. there are a number of people that argue that spending $50 billion dollars a year to save 0.02 degrees of warming over the next century isn’t worth it either.

    these people aren’t saying that 0.02 degrees doesn’t exist or that it is made of green cheese. only that it is so small as to not matter, while $50 billion dollars a year would be better spent fixing roads, building bridges, strengthening seawalls, etc. etc.

  15. Gary says:

    What Iron308 said Quinn said^

  16. You would make a better point if you could spell tautology right.

    [i think you missed the point of the satire, tautology is deliberately misspelled/changed to create a new word "tauntology", which is the satire. -mod]

  17. Frederick Colbourne says:

    I assume you spelled “tautology” deliberately as “tauntology”.

    It’s a new word. I like it.

  18. Scarface says:

    With so little to worry about, I would focus on climate too. No deficit, no unemployment, no poverty, no illegals, no atomic bomb in Iran, no caliphate in Iraq or Syria, no al qaida, no boko haram, no scandals and a booming economy. He must be very bored indeed. Poor little fellow.

  19. TM Willemse says:

    I was listening to this on the radio yesterday as I drove to San Diego to pick up my Marine son, who, btw, makes less than a hamburger flipper in Seattle, and Obama made the point that he knew global warming was real because last summer he gave a speech about it and it was 95 degrees out and he was sweating. (At that point I turned off the radio) Please don’t ever think he actually believes this crap. He knows the truth, and he knows that he needs to jam as much control over the economy as he can before the AMO flips and the Arctic ice puts the lie to all this climate change b.s.

  20. Mickey Reno says:

    I predict that when history evaluates the Obama administration, he will be judged among the worst American presidents. Climate science and its attendant hysteria will be a case study in mass psychosis and delusion and Michael Mann, Al Gore and James Hanson will be historical laughingstocks. Making predictions about the future is fun.

  21. ddpalmer says:

    So who is it that denies the climate is changing? Because I don’t believe I have heard of anybody like that.

    What I have heard people discussing is just what the causes of the climate change are and how to deal with those changes.

    Not quite the same thing, Mr. President.

    But why deal with the truth and with reality when lies, half-truths and sound bites are so much easier to deal with.

  22. Alan Robertson says:

    The link in article above goes to an ABC coverage of POTUS speech at a Walmart, rather than the speech at a commencement exercise, U of California, Irvine.

    Here’s a ink to a Bloomberg article detailing the President’s speech before UC, Irvine graduates:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-14/obama-asks-college-grads-to-help-take-on-climate-change-deniers.html

    Here’s a link to the NY Times coverage of the same event:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/us/obama-mocks-lawmakers-who-deny-climate-change.html?_r=0

    The Bloomberg article is fascinating for the comments, in which a very obvious propagandist adds remarks to most comments and employs logical fallacies and rhetorical tricks, but not one word of truth, just like the President.

  23. JohnWho says:

    Of these:

    Jobs

    Deficit

    Morals

    Health Care

    Immigration

    Climate

    One could argue that “Climate” shouldn’t even be on that list. We all concern ourselves about the daily weather as we decide what clothes to wear every day, but to actually do something, anything, about the weather other than protect ourselves as appropriate, is just not practical, if indeed possible, at this time in our development.

  24. ferdberple says:

    He says Congress is ‘full of folks who stubbornly and automatically reject the scientific evidence’ of climate change
    ===========
    The difference between a good President and a bad President is clear to see.

    A good president is able to convince Congress that his policies are correct. That is how the US political system is supposed to work. If the President cannot convince Congress that his policies are good for the country, then it could well be that the polices are not good for the country.

    Sure, they may be good for special interest groups. They may be good for fund-raising for political parties, or for drumming up support on election night, but are they good for the country?

    Look at history. Those Presidents that are today regarded as the best were able to convince Congress, even when Congress had a majority from the opposite party, that their policies were best for the country. And if they couldn’t convince Congress, they improved their policies and did some horse trading and arm bending until they could convince Congress.

    The current end-run around Congress is a sign of policies that are not in the best interests of the country as a whole. Because it is Congress that has the authority to decide if the President’s policies are good for the country. The EPA should not be making this decision, because the EPA was never elected. In effect the EPA policies are “regulation without representation”.

  25. Ric Werme says:

    I assume this will apply to some comment on this thread, it does on tauntology in general: Please don’t feed the trolls.

  26. hunter says:

    His tauntological efforts worked so well with his Syrian policy when he was taunting Putin about the Russian position in Syria. His taunting is really bullying. But not the sort of bully who can actually win a fair fight. As we see in Mr, Obama’s popular new workout video, he is definitely not a tough guy bully.

  27. Chuck Nolan says:

    Dave says:
    June 15, 2014 at 6:00 am
    Perhaps B Hussein doesn’t care about any of those issues listed above climate change.
    —————————————————————
    Make no mistake and I don’t doubt for a minute: They’re getting exactly what they want.
    Maybe not as fast as they’d like so they have to settle for smaller bites.
    but
    They’re getting exactly what they want.
    The true team members have to make sure the people believe in CAGW not if they consider it a priority.
    As long as the people accept the science the government wanted when it was paid for then whatever the president and his agencies must do to save the planet is a good thing.
    cn

  28. Latitude says:

    Even as Iraq is falling to renewed attacks by radical Islamists, pro-Russian forces escalate the killing of Ukrainian soldiers, and as thousands of illegal immigrants are surging across our borders causing misery and a national health crisis, President Obama has decided to take an extended weekend vacation, perhaps to get in a little golf.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/06/14/Despite-Iraq-Ukraine-Immigration-Mess-Obama-Plays-Golf-on-Vacation

  29. Rod Everson says:

    Scarface says:
    June 15, 2014 at 6:30 am
    With so little to worry about, I would focus on climate too. No deficit, no unemployment, no poverty, no illegals, no atomic bomb in Iran, no caliphate in Iraq or Syria, no al qaida, no boko haram, no scandals and a booming economy.

    Actually, it’s just next on the Conservative’s checklist provided in the article:

    Jobs? More people not working than ever before. Check
    Deficit? A trillion a year should do it. Check
    Morals? Shown that the laws, and even the Constitution do not apply to him. Check
    Healthcare? Obamacare ought to mess it up in short order. Check
    Immigration? Let’s see them deal with a flood of kids. Check
    Climate? Hmmm…lots of possibilities here.

    By the way, anyone notice that the group labeled “Liberal” is the only one that puts Climate above Morals? Maybe that’s what happens when you’ve got to lie through your teeth to make your case.

  30. Mike from Carson Valley a particularly cold place that could benefit from some warming says:

    I abhor the term “climate change”. What does it really mean ? Perhaps glaciers in Yosemite valley cutting through half dome, then going away leaving a verdant landscape behind thousands of years later. Weather comes and weather goes but weather is not climate so I’ve been told. So what the heck is “climate change” ? and give three examples simple enough so I can understand.

    On the subject of the current president all I can say is November 2016 will bring about a climate change in Washington, DC, and the present will become history as well as the current president.

  31. Oscar Bajner says:

    It’s all those photus ops…

    Evrybuddy say Cheese!

  32. Paul says:

    TM Willemse says: “I was listening to this (Obama) on the radio yesterday…”
    Sorry to hear.

    “…I drove to San Diego to pick up my Marine son,…”
    Thank your son for his service. Unfortunately, my son serves under this Commander-in-Chief too.

    And happy Father’s Day.

  33. Alan Robertson says:

    Rod Everson says:
    June 15, 2014 at 6:55 am

    “By the way, anyone notice that the group labeled “Liberal” is the only one that puts Climate above Morals? Maybe that’s what happens when you’ve got to lie through your teeth to make your case.”
    ________________________
    For some people, their beliefs are so important, that to accomplish their agenda, the end justifies the means.

  34. Jaakko Kateenkorva says:

    Divide et impera and Malleus Maleficarum may have worked in the past. It was my understanding that the mankind evolved with giant leaps starting from the Renaissance.

  35. latecommer2014 says:

    Mickey… There is no need to wait for the future to determine the rank of Obamas presidency. Look at his failures to work with the opposition to pass his ideas into law. This is a key element of statesmanship he has failed completely .
    What he has pushed through has been and continues to be a disaster for the country. Perhaps the worst two termer in history, which is also a condemnation of the voting public .

  36. L. E. Joiner says:

    The Puppet President is just reading what John Holdren, his Chicken Little ‘science advisor’, wrote for him. It’s all part of his handlers’ desire to get control of the entire US economy, first with healthcare, and now through the EPA. If you can regulate every aspect of personal and business behavior, what’s left?

    Meanwhile, the sacrifices of c. 4,500 servicemen killed and tens of thousands wounded are ignored while the vicious Islamists destroy Iraq. The ‘President’ can’t be bothered; the golf course calls.

    /Mr Lynn

  37. Tom J says:

    The following are the remarks delivered by OSTP Director John Holdren at the International Space Exploration Forum in January of this year.

    “First, you should know that as someone who spent the first part of his professional career immersed in aerospace engineering and rocket science, I stand before you not just as President Obama’s science and technology advisor but as someone who is personally passionate about space exploration.

    More important, you should know that the President shares that passion. I don’t think he was making mini solid-rocket motors out of his mother’s empty lipstick tubes as a kid, as I was. But I do know that he was inspired by the space program from a very young age and that he cares intensely today about the challenges and rewards of reaching beyond the confines of our planet.

    And while the United States, like other nations, needs to temper its ambitions with budgetary realities…”

    The following are the comments Tom Judd would like to make in regards to John Holdren’s remarks regurgitated directly above:

    First, you should know that as someone who spent the first part of his professional career at a mid level, non managerial, job immersed in paying income taxes beyond a level sufficient to fund a home mortgage I stand before you not just as President Obama’s employer (as he relentlessly forgets all we voters are), and not just as one of his science, technology, history, business, economic, human relations (and all the myriad other specialties combined from the other vast swathe of his other voter) advisors, but as someone who is personally passionate about why his tax money finances Obama to utilize not one, but two jumbo jets to fly to Hawaii for Christmas when he has the audacity to tell me not to drive to work.

    More important, you should know that because it’s not his money the President doesn’t share that passion at all. Now, unlike Obama’s science advisor I wasn’t making mini solid-rocket motors out of my mother’s empty lipstick tubes as a kid since I knew the proper use of an empty lipstick tube was to write ‘go home’ on the bathroom mirrors shortly before the lipstick tube was actually empty. (And the point of that was as a message for people who had overstayed their welcome.) And, unlike President Obama’s science advisor (who, thankfully at least knows the moon isn’t made out of cheese) I find it extraordinarily difficult to believe Obama was inspired by the space program from a very young age growing up in Indonesia (nor by his adolescent tutor in Hawaii, Franklin Davis), and that he cares intensely, or at all, about the challenges and rewards of reaching beyond the confines of our planet. Unless, of course, it can inflate his ego.

    And while Obama, like other national leaders, needs to temper ‘his’ ambitions with budgetary realities can John Holdren not utterly insult our intelligence (I know that’s asking a lot) by insinuating that his administration actually has any intention whatsoever of doing so.

    And, in closing, I would like to thank Mr. Anthony Watts, and his contributors, and moderators, for the profound service they continually, and in the complete absence of taxpayer funding, provide to us all.

    Thank you very much.

  38. fhsiv says:

    Is it appropriate to make a comparison of Obama’s actions to those attributed to Roman Emporer Nero?

  39. The AP/ABC News report begins:

    President Barack Obama said denying climate change is like arguing the moon is made of cheese, as he issued a call to action on global warming to Saturday’s graduates of the University of California, Irvine.

    The irony being that intelligent critics of the kind of climate policies being pushed by Barack Obama believe that the moon was made from a major interplanetary collision and that the Earth’s climate is made, to a very large degree, by the resulting two-planet system, which may be unique in the known universe.

    Well at least some intelligent policy sceptics think that, like Matt Ridley.

  40. davidmhoffer says:

    We should trust Obama on his opinions regarding climate science. Just as we have trusted his opinions on:

    Healthcare
    the Economy
    Not abusing the power of the NSA
    Not abusing the power of the IRS
    Syria
    Ukraine
    Middle East Peace Process
    Reset with Russia
    Pivot to China
    Iraq
    Iran
    North Korea
    Not pissing off American allies like Canada, Japan,most of Eastern Europe, most of western Europe, most of SE Asia….actually which ally has he NOT pissed off?
    Is there anything this clown has gotten right?

    A bigger fool you Americans have not elected in a long time. You should consider next time that you are presented with a brown, sickeningly sweet, and completely hollow candidate, that perhaps a chocolate easter bunny looks better in the package and should just stay there.

  41. GuarionexSandoval says:

    Obama is not interested in solving what the populace deems to be the most important problem. Obama is most interested in doing what gives to the government (AKA Obama and those who think like him) the highest level of control over the broadest areas of society. This is why he is trying to consolidate federal control over health care, energy, and financial institutions. In each of these to sell his plan he has lied to make a situation look so dire that only the government can provide the solution, even though in each case most of the trouble is the result of previous government meddling.

    Obama is not there to serve them. They are there for him to retrofit for his idea of paradise.

    H.L. Mencken had it right way back when:

    “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

    “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.”

  42. Roger Sowell says:

    Transcript of UCI commencement speech 6-14-2014 by President Obama:

    “(Various greetings, then) . . .one of the most significant long-term challenges that our country and our planet faces: the growing threat of a rapidly changing climate.

    Now, this isn’t a policy speech. I understand it’s a commencement, and I already delivered a long climate address last summer. I remember because it was 95 degrees and my staff had me do it outside, and I was pouring with sweat — as a visual aid. (Laughter.) And since this is a very educated group, you already know the science. Burning fossil fuels release carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide traps heat. Levels of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere are higher than they’ve been in 800,000 years.

    We know the trends. The 18 warmest years on record have all happened since you graduates were born. We know what we see with our own eyes. Out West, firefighters brave longer, harsher wildfire seasons; states have to budget for that. Mountain towns worry about what smaller snowpacks mean for tourism. Farmers and families at the bottom worry about what it will mean for their water. In cities like Norfolk and Miami, streets now flood frequently at high tide. Shrinking icecaps have National Geographic making the biggest change in its atlas since the Soviet Union broke apart.

    So the question is not whether we need to act. The overwhelming judgment of science, accumulated and measured and reviewed over decades, has put that question to rest. BS The question is whether we have the will to act before it’s too late. For if we fail to protect the world we leave not just to my children, but to your children and your children’s children, we will fail one of our primary reasons for being on this world in the first place. And that is to leave the world a little bit better for the next generation.

    Now, the good is you already know all this. UC Irvine set up the first Earth System Science Department in America. (Applause.) A UC Irvine professor-student team won the Nobel Prize for discovering that CFCs destroy the ozone layer. (Applause.) A UC Irvine glaciologist’s work led to one of last month’s report showing one of the world’s major ice sheets in irreversible retreat. Students and professors are in the field working to predict changing weather patterns, fire seasons, and water tables — working to understand how shifting seasons affect global ecosystems; to get zero-emission vehicles on the road faster; to help coastal communities adapt to rising seas. And when I challenge colleges to reduce their energy use to 20 percent by 2020, UC Irvine went ahead and did it last year. Done. (Applause.) So UC Irvine is ahead of the curve. All of you are ahead of the curve.

    Your generation reminds me of something President Wilson once said. He said, “Sometimes people call me an idealist. Well, that is the way I know I am an American.” That’s who we are.

    And if you need a reason to be optimistic about our future, then look around this stadium. Because today, in America, the largest single age group is 22 years ago. And you are going to do great things. And I want you to know that I’ve got your back — because one of the reasons I ran for this office was because I believed our dangerous addiction to foreign oil left our economy at risk and our planet in peril. So when I took office, we set out to use more clean energy and less dirty energy, and waste less energy overall.

    And since then, we’ve doubled the distance our cars will go on a gallon of gas by the middle of the next decade. We’ve tripled the electricity we harness from the wind, generating enough last year to power every home in California. We’ve multiplied the electricity we generate from the sun 10 times over. And this state, California, is so far ahead of the rest of the country in solar, that earlier this year solar power met 18 percent of your total power demand one day. (Applause.)

    The bottom line is, America produces more renewable energy than ever, more natural gas than anyone. And for the first time in nearly two decades, we produce more oil here at home than we buy from other countries. And these advances have created jobs and grown our economy, and helped cut our carbon pollution to levels not seen in about 20 years. Since 2006, no country on Earth has reduced its total carbon pollution by as much as the United States of America. (Applause.)

    So that’s all reason for optimism. Here’s the challenge: We’ve got to do more. What we’re doing is not enough. And that’s why, a couple weeks ago, America proposed new standards to limit the amount of harmful carbon pollution that power plants can dump into the air. And we also have to realize, as hundreds of scientists declared last month, that climate change is no longer a distant threat, but “has moved firmly into the present.” That’s a quote. In some parts of the country, weather-related disasters like droughts, and fires, and storms, and floods are going to get harsher and they’re going to get costlier. And that’s why, today, I’m announcing a new $1 billion competitive fund to help communities prepare for the impacts of climate change and build more resilient infrastructure across the country. (Applause.)

    So it’s a big problem. But progress, no matter how big the problem, is possible. That’s important to remember. Because no matter what you do in life, you’re going to run up against big problems — in your own personal life and in your communities and in your country. There’s going to be a stubborn status quo, and there are going to be people determined to stymie your efforts to bring about change. There are going to be people who say you can’t do something. There are going to be people who say you shouldn’t bother. I’ve got some experience in this myself. (Laughter.)

    Now, part of what’s unique about climate change, though, is the nature of some of the opposition to action. It’s pretty rare that you’ll encounter somebody who says the problem you’re trying to solve simply doesn’t exist. When President Kennedy set us on a course for the moon, there were a number of people who made a serious case that it wouldn’t be worth it; it was going to be too expensive, it was going to be too hard, it would take too long. But nobody ignored the science. I don’t remember anybody saying that the moon wasn’t there or that it was made of cheese. (Laughter.)

    And today’s Congress, though, is full of folks who stubbornly and automatically reject the scientific evidence about climate change. They will tell you it is a hoax, or a fad. One member of Congress actually says the world is cooling. There was one member of Congress who mentioned a theory involving “dinosaur flatulence” — which I won’t get into. (Laughter.)

    Now, their view may be wrong — and a fairly serious threat to everybody’s future — but at least they have the brass to say what they actually think. There are some who also duck the question. They say — when they’re asked about climate change, they say, “Hey, look, I’m not a scientist.” And I’ll translate that for you. What that really means is, “I know that manmade climate change really is happening, but if I admit it, I’ll be run out of town by a radical fringe that thinks climate science is a liberal plot, so I’m not going to admit it.” (Applause.)

    Now, I’m not a scientist either, but we’ve got some really good ones at NASA. I do know that the overwhelming majority of scientists who work on climate change, including some who once disputed the data, have put that debate to rest. The writer, Thomas Friedman, recently put it to me this way. He were talking, and he says, “Your kid is sick, you consult 100 doctors; 97 of them tell you to do this, three tell [you] to do that, and you want to go with the three?”

    The fact is, this should not be a partisan issue. After all, it was Republicans who used to lead the way on new ideas to protect our environment. It was Teddy Roosevelt who first pushed for our magnificent national parks. It was Richard Nixon who signed the Clean Air Act and opened the EPA. George H.W. Bush — a wonderful man who at 90 just jumped out of a plane in a parachute — (laughter) — said that “human activities are changing the atmosphere in unexpected and unprecedented ways.” John McCain and other Republicans publicly supported free market-based cap-and-trade bills to slow carbon pollution just a few years ago — before the Tea Party decided it was a massive threat to freedom and liberty.

    These days, unfortunately, nothing is happening. Even minor energy efficiency bills are killed on the Senate floor. And the reason is because people are thinking about politics instead of thinking about what’s good for the next generation. What’s the point of public office if you’re not going to use your power to help solve problems? (Applause.)

    And part of the challenge is that the media doesn’t spend a lot of time covering climate change and letting average Americans know how it could impact our future. Now, the broadcast networks’ nightly newscasts spend just a few minutes a month covering climate issues. On cable, the debate is usually between political pundits, not scientists. When we introduced those new anti-pollution standards a couple weeks ago, the instant reaction from the Washington’s political press wasn’t about what it would mean for our planet; it was what would it mean for an election six months from now. And that kind of misses the point. Of course, they’re not scientists, either.

    And I want to tell you all this not to discourage you. I’m telling you all this because I want to light a fire under you. As the generation getting shortchanged by inaction on this issue, I want all of you to understand you cannot accept that this is the way it has to be.

    The climate change deniers suggest there’s still a debate over the science. There is not. The talking heads on cable news suggest public opinion is hopelessly deadlocked. It is not. Seven in ten Americans say global warming is a serious problem. Seven in ten say the federal government should limit pollution from our power plants. And of all the issues in a recent poll asking Americans where we think we can make a difference, protecting the environment came out on top. (Applause.)

    So we’ve got public opinion potentially on our side. We can do this. We can make a difference. You can make a difference. And the sooner you do, the better — not just for our climate, but for our economy. There’s a reason that more than 700 businesses like Apple and Microsoft, and GM and Nike, Intel, Starbucks have declared that “tackling climate change is one of America’s greatest economic opportunities in the 21st century.” The country that seizes this opportunity first will lead the way. A low-carbon, clean energy economy can be an engine for growth and jobs for decades to come, and I want America to build that engine. Because if we do, others will follow. I want those jobs; I want those opportunities; I want those businesses right here in the United States of America. (Applause.)

    Developing countries are using more and more energy, and tens of millions of people are entering the global middle class, and they want to buy cars and refrigerators. So if we don’t deal with this problem soon, we’re going to be overwhelmed. These nations have some of the fastest-rising levels of carbon pollution. They’re going to have to take action to meet this challenge. They’re more vulnerable to the effects of climate change than we are. They’ve got even more to lose. But they’re waiting to see what does America do. That’s what the world does. It waits to watch us act. And when we do, they move. And I’m convinced that on this issue, when America proves what’s possible, then they’re going to join us.

    And America cannot meet this threat alone. Of course, the world cannot meet it without America. This is a fight that America must lead. So I’m going to keep doing my part for as long as I hold this office and as long as I’m a citizen once out of office. But we’re going to need you, the next generation, to finish the job.
    We need scientists to design new fuels. We need farmers to help grow them. We need engineers to invent new technologies. We need entrepreneurs to sell those technologies. (Applause.) We need workers to operate assembly lines that hum with high-tech, zero-carbon components. We need builders to hammer into place the foundations for a clean energy age. We need diplomats and businessmen and women, and Peace Corps volunteers to help developing nations skip past the dirty phase of development and transition to sustainable sources of energy.

    In other words, we need you. (Applause.) We need you. And if you believe, like I do, that something has to be done on this, then you’re going to have to speak out. You’re going to have to learn more about these issues. Even if you’re not like Jessica and an expert, you’re going to have to work on this. You’re going to have to push those of us in power to do what this American moment demands. You’ve got to educate your classmates, and colleagues, and family members and fellow citizens, and tell them what’s at stake. You’ve got to push back against the misinformation, and speak out for facts, and organize others around your vision for the future.

    You need to invest in what helps, and divest from what harms. And you’ve got to remind everyone who represents you, at every level of government, that doing something about climate change is a prerequisite for your vote.
    It’s no accident that when President Kennedy needed to convince the nation that sending Americans into space was a worthy goal, he went to a university. That’s where he started. Because a challenge as big as that, as costly as that, as difficult as that, requires a spirit of youth. It requires a spirit of adventure; a willingness to take risks. It requires optimism. It requires hope. That day, a man told us we’d go to the moon within a decade. And despite all the naysayers, somehow we knew as a nation that we’d build a spaceship and we’d meet that goal.

    That’s because we’re Americans — and that’s what we do. Even when our political system is consumed by small things, we are a people called to do big things. And progress on climate change is a big thing. Progress won’t always be flashy; it will be measured in disasters averted, and lives saved, and a planet preserved — and days just like this one, 20 years from now, and 50 years from now, and 100 years from now. But can you imagine a more worthy goal — a more worthy legacy — than protecting the world we leave to our children?

    So I ask your generation to help leave us that legacy. I ask you to believe in yourselves and in one another, and above all, when life gets you down or somebody tells you you can’t do something, to believe in something better.
    There are people here who know what it means to dream. When Mohamad Abedi was a boy, the suffering he saw in refugee camps in Lebanon didn’t drive him into despair — it inspired him to become a doctor. And when he came to America, he discovered a passion for engineering. So here, at UC Irvine, he became a biomedical engineer to study the human brain. (Applause.) And Mohamad said, “Had I never come to the United States, I would have never had the ability to do the work that I’m doing.” He’s now going to CalTech to keep doing that work.

    Cinthia Flores is the daughter of a single mom who worked as a seamstress and a housekeeper. (Applause.) The first in her family to graduate from high school. The first in her family to graduate from college. And in college, she says, “I learned about myself that I was good at advocating for others, and that I was argumentative — so maybe I should go to law school.” And, today, Cinthia is now the first in her family to graduate from law school. And she plans to advocate for the rights of workers like her mom. (Applause.) She says, “I have the great privilege and opportunity to answer the call of my community.” “The bottom line,” she says, “is being of service.”

    On 9/11, Aaron Anderson was a sophomore in college. Several months later, he was in training for Army Special Forces. He fought in Afghanistan, and on February 28th, 2006, he was nearly killed by an IED. He endured dozens of surgeries to save his legs, months of recovery at Walter Reed. When he couldn’t physically return to active duty, he devoted his time to his brothers in arms, starting two businesses with fellow veterans, and a foundation to help fellow wounded Green Beret soldiers. And then he went back to school. And last December, he graduated summa cum laude from UC Irvine. And Aaron is here today, along with four soon-to-be commissioned ROTC cadets, and 65 other graduating veterans. And I would ask them to stand and be recognized for their service. (Applause.)

    The point is, you know how to dream. And you know how to work for your dreams. And, yes, sometimes you may be “super underrated.” But usually it’s the underrated, the underdogs, the dreamers, the idealists, the fighters, the argumentative — those are the folks who do the biggest things.

    And this generation — this 9/11 generation of soldiers; this new generation of scientists and advocates and entrepreneurs and altruists — you’re the antidote to cynicism. It doesn’t mean you’re not going to get down sometimes. You will. You’ll know disillusionment. You’ll experience doubt. People will disappoint you by their actions. But that can’t discourage you.

    Cynicism has never won a war, or cured a disease, or started a business, or fed a young mind, or sent men into space. Cynicism is a choice. Hope is a better choice. (Applause.)

    Hope is what gave young soldiers the courage to storm a beach and liberate people they never met.
    Hope is what gave young students the strength to sit in and stand up and march for women’s rights, and civil rights, and voting rights, and gay rights, and immigration rights.

    Hope is the belief, against all evidence to the contrary, that there are better days ahead, and that together we can build up a middle class, and reshape our immigration system, and shield our children from gun violence, and shelter future generations from the ravages of climate change.

    Hope is the fact that, today, the single largest age group in America is 22 years old who are all just itching to reshape this country and reshape the world. And I cannot wait to see what you do tomorrow.

    Congratulations. (Applause.) Thank you, Class of 2014. God bless you. God bless the United States of America. (Applause.).” — end transcript

  43. I’m sorry, I can not remain silent as BHO compares himself to JFK, even by inference. I met JFK and shook his hand before he was President. Sir, you are no JFK. Period.

  44. Robin says:

    Obama uses tauntology and absurd comparisons because the actual intention that “the skills, aptitudes, and attitudes that were necessary to industrialize the Earth are not the same as those that are needed now to heal the Earth, or to build durable economies and good communities” results in a Say What! reaction when spoken aloud.

    Pretty soon the products of K-12 will not be in a position to recognize a logical fallacy when they read it or hear it. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/targeting-how-students-see-the-world-so-they-will-feel-an-irresistiable-compulsion-for-change/ links precisely what the President is going for with preposterous comparisons. Students who have been primed to link sensory knowledge, like heat and sweating, “with the emotions that make us love and sometimes fight.”

  45. Eugene WR Gallun says:

    The content of his speech reveals the content of his heart — and the lack of content in his head.

    A MORE IMPORTANT POINT.
    The left accuses the Republican Party of being taken over by ring-wing radicals. The reality is that the Democratic Party has been taken over by left-wing radicals.

    Give it a moment’s thought and you will realize that the right-wing of the Republican Party advocates nothing that the Democratic Party of JFK would not have endorsed or was actually, back then, a part of the Democratic party platform.

    What has happened to the Democratic Party? Left-wing radicals control it. The lunatics are running that asylum. JFK must be turning in his grave.

    And they accuse the Republican Party of being run by radicals? That is a socialist trick. Accuse others of being what you yourself actually are.

    Eugene WR Gallun

  46. Pamela Gray says:

    Who the heck is his speech writer? That was a horrible speech. More attempted points than a porcupine and with no supporting evidence, just sophomoric rhetoric and opinion. If he wrote it himself, it speaks volumes about this President’s academic acumen as well as his political verbal fluency. If the transcriptionist did the paragraphing, more evidence of a meandering unfocused skill. If he did the paragraphing, it would be self-evident that he needed to tighten his tome. That he did not, it this were the case, amazes me since the evidence of the need is so…well…evident. Which leads me to wonder, did he win his second term simply because a block of people voted for the colors blue and the color of his skin.

    In history, I understand the vote that wins a first term. We are voting for a well-packaged person and so do not really know the ins and outs of the person. It is the second term that is often a questionable event and may indeed speak more to the voters’ self-interested motivation than any they have towards the country.

  47. Tom J says:

    Mr. Obama, next time you give a speech to college students perhaps you can tell them about my recently graduated nephew who has a $100,000 student loan that he is paying back through his $10.00 an hour job at a burger joint. Then, Mr. president (the lower case ‘p’ is intentional), you can inform them that my nephew unfortunately started college after you entered the WH, then graduated, and began his career (flipping burgers) all during your sorry occupancy there. Finally, Mr. president, you can then educate those college students that, while the moon is not, indeed, made out of cheese, if they support your policies their brains may very well be.

  48. Mark Bofill says:

    I suspect Obama has slid into irrelevance anyway, except with the cattle class progressives and for the fact that he will continue to wreak considerable havoc via his regulatory powers for the next couple of years. But past that, the guy just isn’t worth talking about anymore. I seldom even find it worth the bother to mock him.

  49. Paul Coppin says:

    That the fate of the world should be in the hands of California 22 year olds should scare the bejeesus out of everybody, including California 23 and 21 year olds.

    I want, for a moment, to single out Obama’s alma mater, Harvard. Universities today, and most especially Ivy League schools, are turning out liberal class elitists (I know, they always have, that’s what they’re for) that, due largely to the failure of the overall North American educational system postwar, appear not to have any significant intellectual capacity beyond the high school classes they left. What they have, is classist arrogance, as if all of their post-secondary course work consisted of catechismic discussions of “how great we art” and how lucky we don’t have to belong to the class of ordinary folk that provided us the fiscal opportunity to be here in the first place.

    It literally, is like they don’t learn anything else. I picked on Harvard, because of late, it seems to be the poster child of colleges that have produced slew of liberal arts majors completely devoid of self-awareness and an overabundance of narcissism, based laregely on nothing but the presumption of entitlement.

    My viewpoint is tempered by my Canadian perspective: We’ve had an especially egregious run of Harvard sycophants (or is that psychophants?) kick around our political scene in the last few years, all of them to a man, presumptive self-entitled egomaniacs apparently devoid of any real understanding of how the world works for most people. Michael Ignatieff, returning saviour of Canada and wannabe Leader of the Free North, now exiled back to the hallowed halls, David Miller, former mayor of Toronto, established snob, who much preferred to vacation in Spain than spend his tax-paid salary in Ontario, and our former provincial premier Dalton McGuinty, while not of Harvard a priori (not sufficiently class-worthy, I guess), has retreated there in an attempt to escape answering questions on how he and his party might have substantially purloined the public treasury for political gain.

    And for our neighbours to the south, America’s first “non-white” president, who’s disdain for just about everybody is palpable, and by liberal-friendly media accounts, would much rawther talk smack about the rabble, and instead cavort with pseudo-intellectuals and discuss art and philosophy,and about how droll and tedious the job of being president has become. He is yet another Harvard graduate who apparently doesn’t get it. Can’t get it. Is it the education, or is just old-fashioned/new-egalitarian snobism for the 21st century?

    There are world-scale adjustments coming for western civilization. The unfortunate part is that in the absence of demonstrable reality-hardened true-intellectual leadership (of any stripe), it will be everyman for himself, and it isn’t going to be pretty, at all.

  50. mkelly says:

    Mr. President, as someone you call a denier, I challenge you to a debate on global warming/climate change.

    I know it will never happen, but crap like he said should not go unchallenged.

  51. Pamela Gray says:

    Sigh. There are many people on both sides of any debate who love to fill their verbal or written page with rhetoric devoid of defensible and self-investigated facts and data. Which means that readers should beware. One would benefit from rigorous instruction and practice in how to trace and evaluate an argument and specific claims in a verbal speech or written text, distinguishing claims that are supported by reasons, and evidence from claims that are not.

  52. Michael Jankowski says:

    Late last week, this same prez was saying the folks in power in collapsing Iraq and the terrorist-led group leaving decapitations by the roadside on their march to Baghdad were going to have to find a “compromise.”

    If anyone could be made to believe the moon is made of cheese, I think it’s Obama. He lives in a fantasy-world.

  53. Bill Hutto says:

    Dan Sudlik says:
    June 15, 2014 at 5:58 am
    A great description of the President. I wish I could remember who said it. He is a pyromaniac in a field of straw men.

    Yes, if you like to see straw men created and destroyed, King Barack is the gift that keeps giving.

    Obama’s War on Straw Men

  54. kim says:

    It’s not the color of the loon, but the content of his cheese.
    ===============

  55. harkin says:

    When Obama promised to devote the Stimulus money to “shovel-ready projects” and not efforts to keep public employee salaries/pensions solvent…..

    When Obama promised that the GM bailout was to save the company and not to transfer assets to political cronies in the UAW…….

    When Obama promised that once Obamacare went into effect the cost of health insurance for a family of four would drop $2k/yr and that if one liked their plan/Dr they could keep their plan/Dr…….

    When Obama said he was outraged that the IRS was targeting conservative groups and that he would “get to the bottom of it”……..

    When Obama claimed that his election/leadership would result in peace in the Muslim world…………

    …….I said those promises were comprised of horse manure.

  56. dmacleo says:

    he’s a dumbass.
    simple.

  57. Chuck says:

    I’m not sure Obama has many steadfast beliefs other than the leftist socialist agenda. It seems that on every issue the first thing he asks himself is “What position on this issue would further my agenda?” and that becomes his position. I’m not convinced he actually believes or cares much about CAGW but adopting a pro CAGW position furthers the agenda.

    I don’t believe he is a stupid man but basing your position on a political agenda instead of the facts of an issue can make you sound stupid. When Obama talks about climate change he sounds about as stupid as anyone I’ve ever heard.

  58. m.besse says:

    Obama is apparently an expert on cheese, well at least cutting it. He can fart out of both ends.

  59. CarlF says:

    The fact that Obama is a believer in CAGW is convincing evidence that CAGW is all lies.

  60. Leonard Jones says:

    The answer is clear. As a “Community Organizer,” his job was to agitate, to rile
    up, to provoke. The job of a community organizer is the same as the race
    hustlers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton with one difference. The race
    hustlers extort money from businesses by threatening boycotts if they do
    not hire enough minorities. The community organizer threatens lawsuits
    against lending institutions if they do not extend half million dollar home loans
    to welfare recipients.

    Both types are parasites. They are no better than con artists, Elmer Gantry’s,
    or Rainmakers. Anyone who thought that electing Obama would mean an
    end to racism was dangerously naive, as are those that thought he could
    bridge the gap with the Muslim world.

  61. Curious George says:

    Obama’s community organizing skills are bringing fruit in Baghdad. He transferred Gen. Petraeus from Iraq when his work looked successful.

  62. M Simon says:

    Moderator –> what did I say? Or was it “deniers” in the link?

    [There are "key words and tricky phrases" that almost always trigger a "Awaiting moderation" sequence. "Deniers" is one of those key words. .mod]

  63. Reblogged this on gottadobetterthanthis and commented:
    For the record

  64. Joel O'Bryan says:

    Columnist George Will made a quite vivid and IMO very accurate description of this adolescent president.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-f-will-barack-obama-the-adolescent-president/2014/04/23/a835f872-ca3e-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html

  65. rogerknights says:

    ferdberple says:
    June 15, 2014 at 6:27 am

    When President Kennedy set us on a course to the moon, there were a number of people who made a serious case that it wouldn’t be worth it,” he continued.

    Among them was Werner von Braun, and he was right. He wanted to build an orbiting station that could be used to assemble rockets to go to the Moon in ten years, and then Mars, etc. Now we’re at a dead end, as a result of JFK’s policies.

  66. highflight56433 says:

    dmacleo says:
    June 15, 2014 at 9:31 am
    he’s a dumbass.
    simple.

    True…but so is true those who follow and support dumb asses. Those kingmakers ultimately lose, taking everyone else with them, then ragingly blaming everyone but themselves. No accountability. No humility. Only self motivated ego fed greed.

  67. JohnH says:

    We should not get baited.
    The President, in a very unpresidential speech, has chosen to mock and taunt those who question ‘climate change’. Instead of using the language of science to explain and persuade, he chooses instead to be one more demonizing voice. It diminishes him.
    We should not respond in kind. Better to stick to the science and, as this site does so well, challenge the math and the physics. Keep challenging the models because, before too long, 97% of climate models will have failed to predict the prior 18 yrs of surface temperatures. That is the Achilles heel of the warmists. If the models are wrong, their whole edifice comes tumbling down.
    Facts are stubborn things.

  68. TomL says:

    fhsiv says:
    June 15, 2014 at 7:38 am
    Is it appropriate to make a comparison of Obama’s actions to those attributed to Roman Emporer Nero?

    No it is not! Nero may have been totally insane and possibly the worst of the Roman Emperors but there is no reason to insult him like that.

    So far I only see that our crazy Emperor has only accomplished two things – two things that before he took office I thought were impossible. He has made Jimmy Carter look absolutely brilliant and competent and Richard Nixon look like a saint. (I think I hear a quiet cheer in the background that sounds like Carter… “I’m only number 2, Yay I’m only number 2″

  69. Mike McMillan says:

    The moon is made of rocks. We haven’t been back.

  70. Tom J says:

    Roger Sowell
    June 15, 2014 at 7:52 am
    Transcript of UCI commencement speech 6-14-2014 by President Obama:
    ‘Your generation reminds me of something President Wilson once said. He said, “Sometimes people call me an idealist. Well, that is the way I know I am an American.” That’s who we are.’

    Oh my god I hope not. Perhaps someone can teach Obama and the generation he was speaking to (or, more precisely, talking at) a little bit about history, and President Wilson, and economics, and inform them that Woodrow signed legislation introducing the income tax which, if they’re not among the 40% of graduates who are essentially serving coffee and flipping burgers, will effectively confiscate a substantial (and I mean, substantial) portion of their income that will further extend the length of time they’ll be paying back their six figure student loans. And further inform them that Woodrow Wilson presided over the creation of the Federal Reserve, without which the US functioned quite effectively for well over a century, and now is in the process of essentially wiping out their inheritances (which could fund their children’s college ed) by printing paper money just as fast as it can in a largely futile attempt to compensate for the negative economic consequences of Obama’s policies. And, additionally inform them that if anyone who rejects Obama’s policies is claimed to be motivated by racism the argument could cut both ways since Wilson, the original Progressive, segregated the US government for the first time, and also supported the KKK. And, after giving time for the students to digest all of this (and the fact that President Wilson presided over Prohibition, and WWI), finally inform them that during Wilson’s time in office an amendment to the Constitution was added changing the selection of Senators from occurring in the State Capitals to occurring through popular elections and if that amendment had not occurred it’s highly unlikely former Illinois Senator Obama would be in the WH today. And, out of all the negative things one can say about Wilson, I don’t think any can top that last one. So much for idealism, eh?

  71. Gunga Din says:

    I never thought we’d have a president more deceptive than Bill Clinton.
    “‘But nobody ignored the science’ we just made it up as we went along.”
    (Just thought I’d complete the thought for him.)

  72. Ralph Kramden says:

    I object to the President using the term, “radical fringe”. I think he should have said, “the climate realists will run you out of town”.

  73. Tom J says:

    Roger Sowell
    June 15, 2014 at 7:52 am
    Transcript of UCI commencement speech 6-14-2014 by President Obama:
    ‘Your generation reminds me of something President Wilson once said. He said, “Sometimes people call me an idealist. Well, that is the way I know I am an American.” That’s who we are.’

    Oh my god I hope not. Perhaps someone can teach Obama and the generation he was speaking to (or, more precisely, talking at) a little bit about history, and President Wilson, and economics, and inform them that Woodrow signed legislation introducing the income tax which, if they’re not among the 40% of graduates who are essentially serving coffee and flipping burgers, will effectively confiscate a substantial (and I mean, substantial) portion of their income that will further extend the length of time they’ll be paying back their six figure student loans. And further inform them that Woodrow Wilson presided over the creation of the Federal Reserve, without which the US functioned quite effectively for well over a century, and now is in the process of essentially wiping out their inheritances (which could fund their children’s college ed) by printing paper money just as fast as it can in a largely futile attempt to compensate for the negative economic consequences of Obama’s policies. And, additionally inform them that if anyone who rejects Obama’s policies is claimed to be motivated by racism the argument could cut both ways since Wilson, the original Progressive, segregated the US government for the first time, and also supported the KKK. And, after giving time for the students to digest all of this (and the fact that President Wilson presided over Prohibition, and WWI), finally inform them that during Wilson’s time in office an amendment to the Constitution was added changing the selection of Senators from occurring in the State Capitals to occurring through popular elections and if that amendment had not occurred it’s highly unlikely former Illinois Senator Obama would be in the WH today. And, out of all the negative things that occurred during President Wilson’s term in office I think that last one takes the cake. So much for idealism, eh?

  74. Curious George says:

    Obama is listening to advices by John Holdren and John Podesta. What a team!

  75. Greg says:

    Hey, the Pres. is right. I never thought of it that way, but on closer examination climate science is full of holes and the more you stick your nose into what is going on, the more it stinks.

    Perhaps it really IS made of cheese. Probably a really smelly french cheese too.

    This is definitely a credible hypothesis. I wonder whether POTUS has a science and technology adviser who could give us his “personal opinion” on what sort of cheese it is.

  76. George Steiner says:

    You have elected him twice. Stop complaining.

  77. Greg says:

    rogerknights says:
    June 15, 2014 at 10:24 am

    ferdberple says:
    June 15, 2014 at 6:27 am

    When President Kennedy set us on a course to the moon, there were a number of people who made a serious case that it wouldn’t be worth it,” he continued.

    Among them was Werner von Braun, and he was right. He wanted to build an orbiting station that could be used to assemble rockets to go to the Moon in ten years, and then Mars, etc. Now we’re at a dead end, as a result of JFK’s policies.

    =====

    But the real reason for a manned moon landing was not scientific endeavour, it was a political move. Which brings us back to the reason why climate science is made of cheese.

  78. M Simon says:

    shield our children from gun violence

    Teach them how to use one.

  79. Randy says:

    What I find funniest about the moon comment, is the modellers that landed us on the moon do not think it is an issue either…. http://www.therightclimatestuff.com/

  80. Beta Blocker says:

    Anthony Watts: “…. Except in this case, Obama isn’t smart enough to realize that divide and conquer isn’t a winning strategy. Of course when you feel like you can do things without a mandate, and just dictate policy instead of following the path of democracy, I suppose the phrase “what difference does it make?” might apply to unpresidential tauntology. ….”

    President Obama: ….. The climate change d*ni*rs suggest there’s still a debate over the science. There is not. The talking heads on cable news suggest public opinion is hopelessly deadlocked. It is not. Seven in ten Americans say global warming is a serious problem. Seven in ten say the federal government should limit pollution from our power plants. And of all the issues in a recent poll asking Americans where we think we can make a difference, protecting the environment came out on top. (Applause.) ….. So we’ve got public opinion potentially on our side. We can do this. We can make a difference. You can make a difference. And the sooner you do, the better — not just for our climate, but for our economy. There’s a reason that more than 700 businesses like Apple and Microsoft, and GM and Nike, Intel, Starbucks have declared that “tackling climate change is one of America’s greatest economic opportunities in the 21st century.” The country that seizes this opportunity first will lead the way. A low-carbon, clean energy economy can be an engine for growth and jobs for decades to come, and I want America to build that engine. Because if we do, others will follow. I want those jobs; I want those opportunities; I want those businesses right here in the United States of America. (Applause.)

    The reality is this: divide-and-conquer has worked very well for President Obama for the last six years, and he obviously expects his style of government to continue to work well for him and for his successors well into the future. The President demonizes his political opponents for lack of action on climate change, but he himself has not gone nearly as far as he could legally go in forcing a reduction in America’s carbon emissions, using the authorities he already holds as President.

    The leaders of America’s environmental movement will not publicly acknowledge the fact that the EPA now has all the tools it needs to implement the most stringent of measures against America’s continued reliance on fossil fuels, and without a single word of new legislation being needed from the Congress to force a particular environmental policy agenda on the country. The courts have upheld the EPA’s authority under existing law to regulate carbon dioxide as a dangerous pollutant, and they have refused to support court challenges to the scientific validity of the EPA’s endangerment finding.

    The EPA is to energy policy what the Federal Reserve System is to economic policy, with the important exception that the EPA is not an independent agency and is directly controlled by the Executive Branch. No other government agency has as much power to promote one specific energy/environment policy at the expense of some other energy/environment policy. If it wanted to do so, the EPA could even go so far as to implement a system of carbon pollution fines which is the functional equivalent of a legislated carbon tax. The precedent has already been set by the Supreme Court that a revenue collection mechanism which is being labeled as a “fine” can be implemented in ways that make it a legally enforceable tax.

    As long as it follows the processes and procedures that existing legislation directs, the EPA can do whatever it wants to in placing regulatory burdens upon an entire industry, or even upon an entire segment of the economy — burdens which have the impact of directly favoring one policy agenda over some other policy agenda. The authority that the Congress and the courts have granted to the EPA is such that the Obama Administration could, if it wanted to do so, unilaterally implement the most far-reaching, the most finely-crafted, and the most effective carbon emission reduction measures that any global warming activist could possibly ask for.

    But the Obama Administration is doing something very different, they are promoting one fossil fuel energy resource — natural gas — over another fossil fuel energy resource — coal. More to the point, while promoting themselves as being against fossil fuels and for taking effective action on climate change, they have adopted a policy which guarantees that America will eventually be covered with fracking wells from one side of the country to the other. It is divide-and-conquer at its very finest.

  81. rogerknights says:

    Perhaps Obama thinks the recent WaPo / ABC News poll indicates popular support for his moves on climate change. Here’s a rebuttal of that report by Roy Spencer here a few days ago:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/11/despite-climate-edicts-from-the-white-house-even-liberals-dont-think-climate-change-is-a-top-priority/

    Guest essay by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.

    Public opinion surveys are notoriously easy to manipulate. Depending on how you ask the survey question, you can get just about any results you want.

    A recently publicized Washington Post – ABC News poll, timed to coincide with the recent announcement of the Obama EPA proposed power plant CO2 emissions regulations, found a majority of Americans supported CO2 restrictions on coal-fired power plants. But the way the question was asked minimized the supposed cost, and maximized the supposed benefit, of such restrictions on the American economy.

    Quoting from the HuffPo article about the survey results:

    “Asked whether Washington should still go forward with limits if they “significantly lowered greenhouse gases but raised your monthly energy expenses by 20 dollars a month,” 63 percent of respondents say yes, including 51 percent of Republicans, 64 percent of independents and 71 percent of Democrats.”

    Hell, even *I* would probably support $20 more a month if it “significantly lowered greenhouse gases”, just to be on the safe side. But it’s NOT going to significantly lower greenhouse gases (on a global basis, which is what matters), nor is it going to cost only $20 a month.

    The poll question was so poorly worded and misleading, I think the pollsters should be ashamed of themselves.

  82. “They say, ‘Hey, look, I’m not a scientist.’ And I’ll translate that for you: what that really means is, ‘I know that manmade climate change really is happening but if I admit it, I’ll be run out of town by a radical fringe that thinks climate science is a liberal plot,’” [obama] said.
    ————
    Tauntology: deride and conquer.

  83. kadaka (KD Knoebel) says:

    But if you disagree with this President it’s because you’re a racist, you hate people with darker skin. Unless you have darker skin than this President, which means you’re a racist who hates people with lighter skin. Unless you have the same skin tone as this President, which means you’re a self-hating racist.

    Either way, the solution to eliminate virtually all racism is also the prescription for saving Medicare and Social Security from future insolvency: Everyone goes outdoors into the sunlight until everyone gets tanned the same color on all possibly visible skin. Clothing optional.

    PS, albinos and others unable to tan will be colored by tattooing appropriately, but it will be paid for by the government for the greater good. The government appreciates your gratitude.

  84. Gunga Din says:

    George Steiner says:
    June 15, 2014 at 11:03 am

    You have elected him twice. Stop complaining.

    =================================================================
    I had a total of 2 votes in the last two presidential elections. Neither were for him.
    One of his supporters, a poll worker in Cincinnati, was convicted of voting for him up to 6 times in the last election alone. I don’t know what she did the previous election.
    But all that aside, no matter what country, no elected leader of any country should be or is immune from criticism when they are being dishonest with the facts.

  85. Greg says:

    JohnH says: “…before too long, 97% of climate models will have failed to predict the prior 18 yrs of surface temperatures. ”

    Hey John, try to keep up. ESA directorate of Earth Observation has just declared that surface temperature is a “lousy” indicator of climate. So any silly ideas about sticking to the facts will not work. The facts don’t matter My, you’re so 20th century !

    Remember the President of the United States of America has just told us climate science is made of cheese.

    So here we have a further clue as to just what KIND of cheese it really is. We already know it stinks and is full of holes, we now also know that when left exposed to heat and the light of day, it becomes very fluid.

  86. SIGINT EX says:

    Obama was playing to the Mid-Term Congressional election in November to help the DNC candidates.

    It’s likely that His and the DNC numbers are stronger among mid-to-late 20s grad school socio-demographic than the GOP (could be their polling is gimped too as Cantor’s was but for different group-think erroneous assumptions).

    On a different plane of through, we could forgive JFK’s remarks by saying that he was on medication for his WWII injuries, whereas for Obama, we can just say that he is still a stoner.

    Ha ha

  87. Greg says:

    It’s also worth noting that when cheese reaches this kind of fluid state it is no longer fit for human consumption and it is illegal to sell it to the public. It has to be thrown in the skip.

  88. Greg says:

    Deride and conquer. Buddy up with the 23% that think climate change is an important issue and piss off the remaining 77% who have more pressing concerns like losing their homes and their jobs.

  89. L. E. Joiner says:

    George Steiner says:
    June 15, 2014 at 11:03 am
    You have elected him twice. Stop complaining.

    Not I. It was the 47% who pay no federal income taxes who elected him, plus a few well-off liberal Democrats. The problem is they inhabit the states with the most electoral votes.

    /Mr Lynn

  90. kadaka (KD Knoebel) says:

    Greg said on June 15, 2014 at 11:46 am:

    It’s also worth noting that when cheese reaches this kind of fluid state it is no longer fit for human consumption and it is illegal to sell it to the public. It has to be thrown in the skip.

    That can’t possibly be true, my country is universally feared for our prowess in making liquid spray cheese in a pressurized can. Are you saying that’s not edible food?

    From Greg on June 15, 2014 at 11:33 am:

    So here we have a further clue as to just what KIND of cheese it really is. We already know it stinks and is full of holes, we now also know that when left exposed to heat and the light of day, it becomes very fluid.

    You must not know about the right sort of cheeses. When I leave Swiss out it transforms into emergency replacement gasket material. You can transform milk into casein plastic, one of the earliest commercial plastics. Too bad I can’t get a sheet of Swiss without the holes and of a uniform thickness, it’d be nice to keep in the toolkit.

  91. rogerknights says:

    Dan Sudlik says:
    June 15, 2014 at 5:58 am

    A great description of the President. I wish I could remember who said it. He is a pyromaniac in a field of straw men.

    From the George Will column cited by Joel O’Brien:

    Obama often is what political philosopher Kenneth Minogue said of an adversary — “a pyromaniac in a field of straw men.”

  92. rogerknights says:

    Ralph Kramden says:
    June 15, 2014 at 10:41 am

    I object to the President using the term, “radical fringe”. I think he should have said, “the climate realists will run you out of town”.

    Call us the “Sensible Selvage”!

  93. Doug says:

    Obama said
    “You’re going to have to learn more about these issues. Even if you’re not like Jessica and an expert, you’re going to have to work on this. You’re going to have to push those of us in power to do what this American moment demands. You’ve got to educate your classmates, and colleagues, and family members and fellow citizens, and tell them what’s at stake. You’ve got to push back against the misinformation, and speak out for facts, and organize others around your vision for the future.”
    I hope the graduates do that.

  94. Mike McMillan says:

    Rocks. Not cheese. Rocks.

    If it were cheese, the French would have beaten us there.

    Maybe Barack ought to resign and give Biden a chance. ;-)

  95. kadaka (KD Knoebel) says:

    From rogerknights on June 15, 2014 at 12:28 pm:

    From the George Will column cited by Joel O’Brien:

    Obama often is what political philosopher Kenneth Minogue said of an adversary — “a pyromaniac in a field of straw men.”

    Sounds like a scene from a new horror flick:

    Scarecrow Surprise
    Waiting in the fields is for the birds.
    Coming November 4, 2014

  96. Joseph Bastardi says:

    The Sad days for America grow sadder each day

  97. Gamecock says:

    He just reads the teleprompter. He has no intellect.

  98. David Ball says:

    Television science.

  99. David Ball says:

    I am happy about this in [one] sense. There is a huge sector of the population that is now aware that there is another side to the discussion. Land of unintended consequences awaits all men.

  100. David Ball says:

    Correction -”one sense”

  101. RobRoy says:

    So basalt is now called cheese?

  102. Neo says:

    I might be able to take Incompetent Obama seriously if his “carbon footprint” wasn’t so big.

  103. kim says:

    He’s gonna draw a red line in the green cheese.
    =====================

  104. Martin says:

    “There’s going to be a stubborn status quo and people determined to stymie your efforts to bring about change… I don’t remember anybody saying the moon wasn’t there or that it was made of cheese.”

    And this guy was a student of constitutional law.

    Last I saw, those who got the US to the moon are some of the most skeptical of Obama’s faith. Ironically, those who embrace the faith couldn’t have gotten the US to the launch pad.

  105. Mac the Knife says:

    A concerted response to Our Dear Leaders taunt on “….ignoring the science!” is to directly ask him to disclose his collegiate course work in science, physics, chemistry, thermodynamics, and mathematics! State categorically that Our Dear Leader is a ‘Science Illiterati’, until he proves otherwise….

    He could, of course, refute this direct statement by releasing his collegiate records from Harvard, Columbia, and Occidental College. But he won’t…….

    To the best of my knowledge, Our Dear Leader has ‘studiously’ refused to release his college transcripts. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_were_Barack_Obama%27s_grades_in_college
    Mac

  106. charles nelson says:

    Obama is the USA’s Gorbachev.

  107. Mac the Knife says:

    Dang! Must have had a ‘hanging chad’..
    Should read:

    A concerted response to Our Dear Leaders taunt on “….ignoring the science!” is to directly ask him to disclose his collegiate course work in science, physics, chemistry, thermodynamics, and mathematics! State categorically that Our Dear Leader is a ‘Science Illiterati’, until he proves otherwise….

    He could, of course, refute this direct statement by releasing his collegiate records from Harvard, Columbia, and Occidental College. But he won’t…….

    To the best of my knowledge, Our Dear Leader has ‘studiously’ refused to release his college transcripts. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_were_Barack_Obama%27s_grades_in_college
    Mac

  108. kramer says:

    He spouted his nonsense at my alma mater…

  109. starzmom says:

    I know I am coming late to the discussion. But here I am anyway.

    I am an environmental attorney, recently graduated from law school after a career in the energy industry as an environmental engineer. I work as a pro-bono attorney in a legal aid office (apparently the market for lawyers who are not 25 is not great). All of my clients are poor–they have to be to qualify for my services, most are on some sort of government benefits, and believe me, none can afford higher prices for anything. They can’t afford the bills they have. No one out there seems to grasp that the president’s policies and executive orders and unlegislated regulatory mandates will cost lots of money, and that it will hit them hardest. But by gum, they do believe in climate change. The reason it is not high on their radar screens is because the science is settled, and the cost of energy will go down, or at least they believe what they have been told.

    One of these days soon, the chickens will come home to roost, and it is not going to be pretty.

  110. starzmom says:

    However, in what may be a more positive note, I recently read that the starting salaries for graduates for the Colorado School of Mines (which I proudly note is my son’s alma mater) was higher in 2012 than the starting salaries graduates of Harvard University. Perhaps there is some hope somewhere??

  111. Ben D says:

    If Obama/WH CAGWers believes Lewandowsky’s assertion that skeptics are more likely to believe the moon landings were a hoax…it follows that they may think skeptics are also more likely think the moon is made of cheese as the science is not settled. :)

  112. Blacksburger says:

    Kennedy proposed putting a man on the moon because scientists and engineers told him it was feasible. He didn’t just dream up the idea by himself.

  113. Larry Ledwick says:

    George Steiner says:
    June 15, 2014 at 11:03 am
    You have elected him twice. Stop complaining.

    52.93 percent of those who voted voted for him in 2008
    51.06 percent of those who voted voted for Obama in 2012.

    That means that a more than 1/2 people in the U.S. did not vote for him and have every right to point out how miserable a president he has been. It was clear from the beginning that he had no meaningful qualifications for president, but the media simply buried that story and refused to report on it out of political correctness, and totally abandoned their responsibility as journalists to fairly report the news, and their reason for existing.

    They sold out and have become the modern U.S. Pravda mouthpiece for the executive branch rather than their intended (and constitutionally protected) check on the power of the government. The incestuous relationship between the executive branch and the modern mainstream media is a disgrace.

  114. Darren Potter says:

    “Obama’s mind, the taunting of the significant percentage … … worth doing something about is a winning strategy”

    Obama is using Global Warming to distract America from his numerous failures, scandals, and lies.
    Obama learned from his radical anti-American pals that people can only deal with a limited number of crisis before becoming overwhelmed and numb.

  115. ralfellis says:

    Lets hope some astronauts stand up and rebuke this infantile nonsense.

    And it is unfortunate in the extreme, in this time of global crisis, to have the world’s primary superpower being led by a child.

    R

  116. Gallup to greatness says:

    Oh, what a fine idea. Let’s analyze the climate change data’s merits or lack thereof by popular vote.

    And after that, we can take the climate budget, and spend it on trying to contact angels personally. After all, more Americans believe in angels than in evolution.

  117. Darren Potter says:

    Dave says: “Perhaps B Hussein doesn’t care about any of those issues listed above climate change.”

    He doesn’t. Other than using those issues to accomplish his dream of destroying the Republic he loathes to create his vision of a Socialists Utopia. What else would explain Obama’s insistence in continuing to pursue his failures?

  118. old44 says:

    “But nobody ignored the science. I don’t remember anybody saying the moon wasn’t there or that it was made of cheese,” Obama said.

    Must have been a switched on 7yo.

  119. Red inertia says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    52.93 percent of those who voted voted for him in 2008
    51.06 percent of those who voted voted for Obama in 2012.
    That means that a more than 1/2 people in the U.S. did not vote for him and have every right to point out how miserable a president he has been.

    No, 100% of the country has the right to complain about any president. It’s just that we all get to laugh at the people who complain while not even bothering to vote against him. And we especially laugh and laugh at the ones who didn’t vote twice. “Obama is a monster, a failure, the worst president ever who is dragging our country to ruin… but I just can’t miss Greta and ‘Wheel of Fortune.’ Please take my commitment to America seriously, though.”

  120. Gamecock says:

    starzmom says:
    June 15, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    No one out there seems to grasp that the president’s policies and executive orders and unlegislated regulatory mandates will cost lots of money, and that it will hit them hardest.

    =================

    It’s the way of fascism. Big, powerful companies don’t resist the regulation. If they try, they will be branded by the legacy press for wanting people to die from bad air or bad food or whatever. The upside for them is that the regulation crushes competition. Only the big boys can afford to live with the government edicts. With monopoly thus established, the companies actually start working with the government to create more regulation. Ipso facto, crony capitalism. Which is just a pretty name for fascism.

    Circa 1993, when someone complained that Hillarycare would crush businesses, she said, “I can’t help it if their companies are under capitalized.” It seems at first like a “let them eat cake” moment, but I think it revealed more about her, that she is indeed a fascist. She’s not Comrade Hillary, she Reichsleiter Hillary.

  121. ralfellis says:

    I said Obama was a child, but perhaps that is the wrong simile. Actually, it is quite likely that he is a ventriloquist’s dummy. You can tell by the way that he often pinches his mouth, that someone has their arm up his backside.

    R

  122. Kent Clizbe says:

    Who is this poser flying around in our military’s jumbo jets, spending our money on exotic foreign vacations for his baby mama and her posse. Remember in 2007? He was lauded by all pundits as being “the smartest man ever to run for the office.”

    Since then, the same pundits have hypothesized that “maybe the office is beneath him.”

    For anyone who cares to see, it is clear that this President is a clever punk who has enormously wealthy handlers. He is just a figurehead who can read a teleprompter.

    His handlers are Politically Correct Progressives. Their goal is to destroy Normal-America. Every speech this punk reads is just another step in that destruction.

  123. Tanya Aardman says:

    Obama is the worst leader of any country in the world in history.

  124. KevinK says:

    Well, we did indeed get to the moon. We will all have to wait another century (or so) to see if B. H. Obama actually controlled the climate…..

  125. T-Bird says:

    “He has made Jimmy Carter look absolutely brilliant and competent …”

    No, that’s impossible. Obama may be “The Return of Jimmuh” but remember, it’s taken the Lite-Worker six years to do as much damage as Carter did in four.

  126. Gunga Din says:

    Gamecock says:
    June 15, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    Circa 1993, when someone complained that Hillarycare would crush businesses, she said, “I can’t help it if their companies are under capitalized.” It seems at first like a “let them eat cake” moment, but I think it revealed more about her, that she is indeed a fascist. She’s not Comrade Hillary, she Reichsleiter Hillary.

    ==============================================================
    Back in those days Rush Limbaugh had a TV show. I remember he showed a clip of of Hiel Hillary before Congress answering a question. To the best that I can recall it went like this:

    A Congressman (Maybe Rostinkowski?): “Would you control people’s behavior through taxes?”
    Hillary: “I would if I could.”

    I don’t remember the context of the question but how often does a First Lady appear before Congress?

    I’ve looked for the clip but can’t find it. Any link would be appreciated.

  127. Joel O'Bryan says:

    what Tanya ^ said .

  128. old44 says:

    Obama is the worst leader of any country in the world in history.

    You clearly are not Australian, our last two would play him on a break.

  129. old44 says:

    P.S.
    Both of them sacked by their own party BEFORE they went to election.

  130. Lil Fella from OZ says:

    I believe that is not the correct definition of tautology. “I personally…”

  131. bobl says:

    Yes old44, KR and JG ( allegedly soon to be known as prisoner 4523476 ) were pretty bad, arguably worse than Obama. But Obama has been proven to be particularly inept, and seems to have a penchant for breaking the law, that KR never had, JG, not so much (allegedly)

  132. richardscourtney says:

    Friends:

    People in all countries like to disdain their politicians and in this thread some Americans have been discussing which of their series of Presidents has been least good.

    The discussants may be amused by the following story.

    Three American ex-Presidents found themselves at the end of the Yellow Brick Road.
    Carter said,
    “I will go along it to Oz so I can ask the Wizard to give me a brain”.
    Bush the elder said,
    “I will come with you because I want to get a heart”.
    Clinton said,
    “where is Dorothy?”.

    Richard

  133. Julian in Wales says:

    tauntology – great word, Thanks for bringing it to my attention

  134. toorightmate says:

    Thank goodness the great orator and the supreme money printer is your “Commander In Chief” and not ours (God bless you all fro Aus).

  135. Simon says:

    toorightmate
    Thank goodness the great orator and the supreme money printer is your “Commander In Chief” and not ours (God bless you all fro Aus).

    Could be worse. They could have Tony Abbott. The man who already had a book full of laughable quotes.

  136. Scott says:

    Really what he is saying, is that like a good Swiss cheese, the data is full of holes….

  137. Todd says:

    Would it be taunting to note that the President gave speech number 5,723 about energy prices needing to necessarily skyrocket for the middle class, right before boarding his private jet to California, for another weekend of CO2 spewing, partying and loafing?

  138. I like the fact that the liberal gestapo has moved away from Global Warming to Global Climate Change, then they can point to a snowflake and scream that it’s a manmade disaster. Liberal Democrats are going to push the Global Climate Change fairy tale for a very good reason – they can take control of manufacturing and invoke Stalinesque restrictions on countries they want to punish forcing manufacturing to move to countries that kowtow to the Liberal benevolent rule of iron. Don’t believe me? Ever hear of a whiny sniveling ecotard complain about the megatons of carbon China and India are pumping into the atmosphere? of course not. ‘Nuff said.

  139. Resourceguy says:

    This kind of abrasive behavior and bullying stems from the knowledge he will not be in office when the truth catches up. It is the policy equivalent of a model or forecast that cannot be checked as long as the braggart is in play with job hopping. The truth is someone else’s problem. This is also the first time a President has demanded everyone else conduct themselves in a way that involves unlearning science methods of model verification and reasonable forecast error evaluation. In a backhanded way the President seems to be classifying science and science policy in the same courtroom tactics of win the day. Alternatively he is saying as did Mao to wave the little red book in the air comrade for the cultural revolution or we will bully you into total submission.

  140. Bob Kutz says:

    BHO is a Useful Idiot very much in the same vein as Walter Duranty.

    That’s all I’m gonna say about it.

  141. Roger Sowell says:

    Since this post is about climate and young college grads, typically age 22 or 23, the following presents a dozen questions for the grads to consider.

    http://sowellslawblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/climate-questions-for-teens-and-20s.html

    Here are a few of those questions:

    – The Roman warm period, and the Medieval warm period were both much warmer than today, so how did Polar bears survive those warm periods? PETA and WWF were not around back then.

    – Why is the sea level decreasing off the coast of California?

    – Why are sunspots so very critical to earth’s average climate? Why were there so few sunspots during both the recent cold events (Maunder and Dalton)? Why were there so many sunspots during the 1980’s and 1990’s?

    – Why do climate scientists (Mann, Hansen, and others) hide their data for years, and never reveal their calculation methods? What are they hiding?

    – Why is the Main Stream Media so silent on Chiefio’s blog results, the March of the Thermometers? see http://chiefio.wordpress.com

    – Why do thousands of scientists say (signed their names) that man-made global warming is junk science?

    – Why do process control engineers know that increasing CO2 above 350 ppm cannot possibly have any role in changing earth’s climate?

    – If the science is settled, why are governments funding additional research in the billions of dollars per year?

  142. Resourceguy says:

    The use of Greenhouse gas emission revenue in the California budget is a very good guide for what motivates Obama speeches and policy. The deniers are just in the way of the massive money train push and related spending advocates. It’s no contest, science loses.

  143. Colorado Wellington says:

    Quinn the Eskimo on June 15, 2014 at 6:15 am

    He’s fixed the economy and health care and the Middle East, why not let him fix the weather?

    One who ends all wars and brings back peace for our time has enough time on his hands to fix the weather.

  144. John S says:

    I wonder how effective it is to taunt nearly 50% of the American people who are not sold on man-made climate change. Me, I don’t think that is an effective tactic in a free country. I say let the fool keep talking. He will convert more people to skeptics with his taunting…. And the undecided people will likely be offended by his bullying. So let him talk…we need more skeptics to stop the madness over CO2…

  145. Mary Brown says:

    Obama said snow pack is declining and drought worsening.

    I guess he hasn’t seen the data. That’s understandable since finding all that stuff takes some time and effort and his advisers have clearly never seen it. I keep basic data in this file. If you have a suggestion of what I should add, please pass along.

    https://www.dropbox.com/sc/ofcl5g9r00bhfyf/AAAa7MpBm1zUsmm4D_qnWRbfa

  146. Tom J says:
    June 15, 2014 at 7:36 am

    Well said!

  147. Jim Sweet says:

    I kind of welcome the taunts actually. Soon enough, the Obama brand will be so sullied and toxic, it will make the heretics look like heroes.

  148. Michael C. Roberts says:

    We must also take note of the recent push in the MSM in the POTUS’ “War on Carbon”: http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/bd4379a92ceceeac8525735900400c27/5bb6d20668b9a18485257ceb00490c98!OpenDocument and his “Clean Power Plan” (is that carbon soot? Or the gas carbon dioxide?) – and specifically my local left-leaning daily pulp (printed with environmentally friendly soy based ink), The News Tribune (Tacoma, WA – http://www.thenewstribune.com/), affiliated with The McClatchy newspaper syndicate. While left-leaning articles are the papers’ norm as they attempt to sway local hearts and minds (or is that just to pander to those like-thinking locals – less in number here in T-Town than in San Francisco North I mean Seattle), in the last couple of weeks they have really doubled-down on the rhetoric concerning the “New World Order” and the need to shift to “Clean Energy”. Extolling the benefits of and the multitudes of jobs that will be created through the benevolent steerage of the federal government control programs (as if that has worked very often – except maybe for the Civilian Conservation Corps or CCC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Conservation_Corps – it worked on some level from what I recall. You can still hike and/or hunt along the old CCC roads laid down through the forests around here). But I digress…The amount of biased “reporting” that I pay for with my Trib subscription is now bordering on the intolerable. It would be easier to accept should there be “pro” and “con” opinion pieces concerning specifically environmental subject matter – but what we are fed is a constant, watermelon based one-sided party line of propaganda. I am to the point of cancelling the subscription – I know, most of you all out there in WUWT land are saying to yourselves “why is that Roberts guy even paying for pulp? What a dinosaur!” – but I still like the feel and convenience of paper. That is until I feel ill and fly into a rage whenever I read the editorials….what I am trying to say is, the rhetoric is getting thicker and seems to be flowing faster. I get the impression this is the next phase of the “Grand Plan”, to push us through to the next phase – elimination of cheap, readily available energy sources. What’s next, firewood cops? Don’t laugh, that will be next…
    http://www.epa.gov/burnwise/pdfs/20120209NSPSpresentation.pdf. Be ready. Be informed. The fight is intensifying.

  149. RE:Mary Brown at 9:25 am
    Obama said snow pack is declining and drought worsening.

    On May 29, 2014, I was struck by the low the water level at Dillon Reservoir, Summit County, Colorado. It was lower than I had ever seen it.

    But it wasn’t from drought. It was from planning ahead. There was still thick snowpack in the drainage basin that was going to flood the valley if the managers of the reservoir didn’t make room for the water.

    Reservoir levels of Denver Water Board. Note how close they are to capacity on June 12.
    http://www.denverwater.org/SupplyPlanning/WaterSupply/ReservoirLevels/

    Links to Snowpack and precipitation monitoring stations in Colorado:
    http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/snotel/Colorado/colorado.html
    Click a Station, Then click “Daily Graph” at “Snow Water Equivalent”, “Current Water Year”

    Example: Hoosier Pass (Continental Divide, CO-9)
    http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/view?intervalType=+View+Current+&report=WYGRAPH&timeseries=Daily&format=plot&sitenum=531&interval=WATERYEAR

  150. DirkH says:

    Simon says:
    June 16, 2014 at 3:14 am
    “Could be worse. They could have Tony Abbott. The man who already had a book full of laughable quotes.”

    How many people has that dreadful Abbott already killed with drone strikes?

  151. Russ Steele says:

    Reblogged this on Sierra Foothill Commentary and commented:
    Obama makes a grade school level logical fallacy in his presentation on climate change, while employing some signature ‘tauntology’ How…unpresidential.

  152. Photo: snowpack above timberline, Hoosier Pass looking NNE, 9:40 am June 9, 2014

    This proves nothing: It snowed the afternoon and evening before. Still, the snowpack was unually thick for early June.

  153. TheLastDemocrat says:

    I talk to college kids regularly, as well. I usually point out some anecdote about how the prevailing wisdom has been wrong, and it takes courage to have an open mind and think about things in different ways in order to test whether the status quo is right or wrong.

    I encourage the kids to realize they can, and should, question anything they hear, including what I might tell them. This is the hallmark of educated people.

    If the prez wanted to address man-made global warming, he could have noted that he has one view, and some in the country have another view, but he is sure that this young.bright graduating class has learned what it means to be educated, and to be critical thinkers, that he is sure the future, including the climate, is in good hands.

  154. Russ says:

    Graduates have a limited experience with lying pols. So they didn’t have to develop the normal web of deceit that is required for more experienced voters. They went with the “Oldest Trick in The Book”.
    Obamanator: “Lookest thou over there at that fool that believes in a “moon of cheese””!
    Students: “Where”?
    Obamanator: “Hah!! Madest thou look”.
    Students: “Hey.”?
    Obamantor: “Yes”

  155. Gunga Din says:

    richardscourtney says:
    June 16, 2014 at 1:02 am

    ============================================================================
    8-)

  156. DavidG says:

    One looks at an American president like Reagan, someone I could always understand and trust at a deep level, despite political differences and then at our current president who seems captivated by foreign memes, brain dead celebrities and the sound of his own voice. Him, I could never trust farther than I could throw a safe! He takes positions after taking polls and then changes his mind, Hamlet-like!:)
    He wants to be president of the world and create a new secular religion while he’s at it.
    People like him, Gore or Kerry, are all faux Americans- sworn to support a new world order. It’s time the rest of us woke up.

  157. RE: Stephen Rasey at 10:59 am
    On May 29, 2014, I was struck by the low the water level at Dillon Reservoir, Summit County, Colorado. It was lower than I had ever seen it.

    Here is the panorama of Dillon Reservoir from I-70 Scenic Overlook east of Frisco

  158. Russell Johnson says:

    Odama and the liberal dems are riding a tiger and don’t have a clue. I believe he’s mentally ill and should have immediate intervention. The tiger will bite come November….

  159. Resourceguy says:

    It’s more evidence of a string puppet president with vengeful speeches written for him by radical activists.

  160. Alan McIntire says:

    So President Obama flies to Bismark, North Dakota, and on to Southern California, burning plenty of hydrocarbons on the flight, and preaches against burning hydrocarbons. He’s either an idiot or a hypocrite.

    I believe cigarette smoking is harmful. No one in my family smokes, and we don’t permit others to smoke in our household. Contrast that with the behavior of AGW believers
    who claim that cutting back a little, not eliminating, is all it takes.
    Humans put out a certain fraction of atmospheric CO2, maybe 1%. That 1% extra
    per year is supposed to have a catastrophic effect. Proposed
    measures resolving to cut this to 60% by say 2040 are supposed to
    make a material difference over the next century. How is it that
    increasing CO2 by 1% over natural rates over the next century would
    have a catastrophic effect and restricting CO2 use to
    only 0.6% over naturarl background rates would somehow make a
    measurable positive difference?
    In actuality, in 1950 the world had half the population it
    does now, it was using
    1/4 of the energy it does now, and CO2 was increasing at roughly
    half
    the rate it does now. Assuming that all of the increase is due to
    humans, by cutting back on energy use by 7/8 we
    wouldn’t be ELIMINATING any human caused CO2 increase, we’d just be
    slowing down the increase to 1950 levels. Assuming the AGW arguments were correct, we’d have to cut back CO2 production by 100%.
    Instead, the AGWers are proposing pissant efforts to fight global warming, figuring that’s all that’s needed to demonstrate their “concern for the environment” and to prove their faith.

    AGWers argue there are positive feedbacks from water vapor.
    For a mundane example of feedbacks, I believe that extra calories lead to extra weight, but I don’t believe eating a 150 calorie piece of pie every night for dessert will cause me to
    gain 150 calories/day* 365 days/year*20 years * 1 pound/3000 calories= 365 pounds in 20 years. There are plenty of negative feedbacks in metabolic rate, extra calories burned with extra weight, etc., keeping most people who DO eat an extra piece of pie from gaining those unusual amounts. The same applies to CO2. The warming effect of CO2 is small, and ultimately chemical interactions between atmosphere, ocean, plants, etc will bring about a balance between CO2 produced by humans and CO2 removed from atmosphere, and from oceans.

    Our current fossil reserves, coal and oil, will last us maybe 500
    years at current rates of consumption. After that, we’ll have to
    rely entirely on nuclear reactors, etc. A 1% increase in CO2
    production over only a few centuries cannot devastate life on earth,
    else it would already have happened over geological eras. That CO2
    in the atmosphere must have come from volcanoes. The earth must
    have been gradually cooling over billions of years as the radioactive
    elements in the earth’s core decay. Since volcanic activity is a
    result of earth’s interior heat, volcanic activity must ALSO have been
    falling off over geological aeons. That gradual reduction in tectonic
    activity must result in less CO2 and water vapor being recycled into
    the atmosphere.

    Longer term geological evidence and the faint sun paradox essentially can rule out high climate sensitivity over the long term. We know that liquid oceans have been present on Earth as early as 4 billion years ago, when the sun was 30% less bright. This means temperatures cannot have been vastly different than today. As the sun strengthened feedbacks as high as 2 watts/m2/degC would have caused run away temperatures, and boiled the oceans. It seems likely that there are stabilizing effects on climate which lead a water covered planet like Earth to self-regulate temperatures

  161. Ralph Kramden says:

    Talking about President Obama former Vice President Dick Cheney said, “Rarely has a US president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many”. He was referring to Iraq but the same could be said for climate change.

Comments are closed.