From the University of California – Riverside , and the department of sulfurous odors, comes this “it must be carbon dioxide” moment:
“Also associated with this event are high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which are linked to elevated ocean and atmospheric temperatures. Associated consequences include likely enhanced global rainfall and weathering of the continents, which further shifted the chemistry of the ocean.”
Of course, it couldn’t possibly be anything else but CO2 causing this, right?
Researchers quantify toxic ocean conditions during major extinction 93.9 million years ago
UC Riverside-led study points to an ancient oxygen-free and hydrogen sulfide-rich ocean that may foreshadow our future
RIVERSIDE, Calif. — Oxygen in the atmosphere and ocean rose dramatically about 600 million years ago, coinciding with the first proliferation of animal life. Since then, numerous short lived biotic events — typically marked by significant climatic perturbations — took place when oxygen concentrations in the ocean dipped episodically.
The most studied and extensive of these events occurred 93.9 million years ago. By looking at the chemistry of rocks deposited during that time period, specifically coupled carbon and sulfur isotope data, a research team led by University of California, Riverside biogeochemists reports that oxygen-free and hydrogen sulfide-rich waters extended across roughly five percent of the global ocean during this major climatic perturbation — far more than the modern ocean’s 0.1 percent but much less than previous estimates for this event.
The research suggests that previous estimates of oxygen-free and hydrogen sulfide-rich conditions, or “euxinia,” were too high. Nevertheless, the limited and localized euxinia were still sufficiently widespread to have dramatic effect on the entire ocean’s chemistry and thus biological activity.
“These conditions must have impacted nutrient availability in the ocean and ultimately the spatial and temporal distribution of marine life,” said team member Jeremy D. Owens, a former UC Riverside graduate student, who is now a postdoctoral scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. “Under low-oxygen environments, many biologically important metals and other nutrients are removed from seawater and deposited in the sediments on the seafloor, making them less available for life to flourish.”
“What makes this discovery particularly noteworthy is that we mapped out a landscape of bioessential elements in the ocean that was far more perturbed than we expected, and the impacts on life were big,” said Timothy W. Lyons, a professor of biogeochemistry at UCR, Owens’s former advisor and the principal investigator on the research project.
Study results appear online this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Across the event 93.9 million years ago, a major biological extinction in the marine realm has already been documented. Also associated with this event are high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which are linked to elevated ocean and atmospheric temperatures. Associated consequences include likely enhanced global rainfall and weathering of the continents, which further shifted the chemistry of the ocean.
“Our work shows that even though only a small portion of the ocean contained toxic and metal-scavenging hydrogen sulfide, it was sufficiently large so that changes to the ocean’s chemistry and biology were likely profound,” Owens said. “What this says is that only portions of the ocean need to contain sulfide to greatly impact biota.”
For their analysis, the researchers collected seafloor mud samples, now rock, from multiple localities in England and Italy. They then performed chemical extraction on the samples to analyze the sulfur isotope compositions in order to estimate the chemistry of the global ocean.
According to the researchers, the importance of their study is elevated by the large amount of previous work on the same interval and thus the extensive availability of supporting data and samples. Yet despite all this past research, the team was able to make a fundamental discovery about the global conditions in the ancient ocean and their impacts on life.
“Today, we are facing rising carbon dioxide contents in the atmosphere through human activities, and the amount of oxygen in the ocean may drop correspondingly in the face of rising seawater temperatures,” Lyons said. “Oxygen is less soluble in warmer water, and there are already suggestions of such decreases. In the face of these concerns, our findings from the warm, oxygen-poor ancient ocean may be a warning shot about yet another possible perturbation to marine ecology in the future.”
A grant to Lyons from the National Science Foundation supported the study.
Owens and Lyons were joined in the study by UCR’s Steven M. Bates; Benjamin C. Gill at Virginia Tech. and a former Ph.D. student with Lyons; Hugh C. Jenkyns at the University of Oxford, the United Kingdom; Silke Severmann at Rutgers University, NJ, and a former postdoctoral researcher with Lyons; Marcel M. M. Kuypers at the Max Planck Institute for Marine Biology, Germany; and Richard G. Woodfine at British Petroleum, the United Kingdom.
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They can be so sure of what CO2 did 93.9 million years ago yet so wrong about what it would do 20 years ago.
Wilful misinterpretation of cause-and-effect between temperature and CO2, from temple priests of the Church of Socialism.
R Taylor:
re your post at October 28, 2013 at 3:06 pm.
The reported paper has to be among the daftest promotions of AGW ever. But it does not mention and does not pertain to any political philosophy.
Your use of the paper as an excuse for your proclamation of your ridiculous political prejudice adds nothing of merit to discussion of the paper but it does offer an opportunity for warmunists to ridicule exposure of the paper’s flaws.
Richard
No oxygen. Major extincion. DUH? And do they tell us why these conditions occured?
Oh,I see “Why does it matter?” “It’s all CO2’s fault” again.
And 97% of my friends agree….
Because of the opportunities presented by that global upheaval, we all exist today. Thank you for reaffirming the boundless rejuvenating capability and inevitability of life.
Must have been all those rotten dinosaur eggs …
I’m sorry, but when I saw the subject head, I thought that this was about H2SO2. I thought it was going to be about… never mind. Just grateful, actually…
All it takes is a few rotten eggs . . .
Owens says: “Across the event 93.9 million years ago, a major biological extinction in the marine realm has already been documented. Also associated with this event are high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which are linked to elevated ocean and atmospheric temperatures.”
Watts says: “Of course, it couldn’t possibly be anything else but CO2 causing this, right?” Is “causing” your word or his.
Most scientists reading this article would make a logical leap to thinking that higher CO2 levels make the planet warmer that it would be, and that would affect [O2] in the oceans.
In the past I have the impression that most extinction events are more the cause of changes in [CO2] than the reverse. This has the possibility of making our future sadly “unprecedented”.
Jeremy D. Owens, a former UC Riverside graduate student…..just discovered the sulfur cycle in marine sediments….
publish or perish
Pippen Kool:
Your post at October 28, 2013 at 4:07 pm contains so many illogical assertions that it would require several posts to refute them all. So, I will only address your summarising end statement which says
Much of our future will certainly be “unprecedented”: that is the nature of the future.
Species evolve while other species fail to survive. Land masses move across the surface of the globe, collide and subduct. The surface of the planet oscillates between glacial and interglacial periods. Empires rise and fall. Technologies and cultures develop, flourish and are lost but sometimes are found again. These and other changes will continue to provide unprecedented circumstances for the Earth and for people who inhabit it.
CO2 has no demonstrable and significant effect on any of that. However, atmospheric CO2 concentration has reduced to dangerously low levels for the survival of plant species. Hence, an unprecedented extinction event induced by lack of atmospheric CO2 is a real possibility for the first time in the history of the planet, but I doubt that is what you meant.
Richard
Most scientists reading this article would make a logical leap to thinking that higher CO2 levels make the planet warmer that it would be, and that would affect [O2] in the oceans.
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most scientists reading this article would make a logical leap to thinking that a lot of dead crap didn’t produce O2, the anoxic layer in marine sediments moved to the surface, and released hydrogen sulfide
The dead crap came first….it didn’t get that warm
Pippen Kool: “This has the possibility of making our future sadly “unprecedented”.”
The great thing about ‘possibility’ is that it runs both ways. It’s just as valid to state ‘This has the possibility of making our future sadly “precedented.”
Unless, of course, you got the skinny on the down low from the Eloi.
Most scientists, hell, scientists, don’t know what the absolute sign of the feedbacks is so to presume CO2 will indefinitely warm the planet requires non-scientific reasoning. It is this lack of knowledge regarding feedbacks that we have these disagreements. CO2 alone is not a problem.
richardscourtney says: “atmospheric CO2 concentration has reduced to dangerously low levels for the survival of plant species. Hence, an unprecedented extinction event induced by lack of atmospheric CO2 is a real possibility for the first time in the history of the planet”.
Good one. Are you trying to get your comment on the hotwhopper site?
During previous geologic times did co2 rise follow temperature rise or not? Are the Vostok ice cores wrong?
PS, it’s funny how they call on the the paleo record to back CAGW but dismiss it when we say co2 was well over 5 times higher in the past and did not lead to CAGRW (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Runaway Warming). I won’t be happy until we reach at least 600ppm in our atmosphere. It has been loooooong overdue.
richardscourtney says:
October 28, 2013 at 3:14 pm
“Your use of the paper as an excuse for your proclamation of your ridiculous political prejudice adds nothing of merit to discussion of the paper”
Socialism is a racist, genocidal nutbag ideology… It can NEVER be ridiculous to point that out. This paper may not directly come out and sing the praises of socialism… but thats like saying that when some PhD comes out with a paper saying blacks aren’t human that it is not a directly pro-socialist paper and thus one should not point out its pro-socialist support. Reality check this is a socialist paper trying to push a socialists agenda just in a very indirect fashion.
The money quote as follows ““Today, we are facing rising carbon dioxide contents in the atmosphere through human activities, and the amount of oxygen in the ocean may drop correspondingly in the face of rising seawater temperatures,” Lyons said.”
Thats clearly lyons bringing socialism to the forefront of this paper.
Come on Anthony, CO2 is known to be the cause of plate tectonics! /sarc
I hear the IPCC published a report yesterday about their impressions of CAGW. They have had their impressions peer reviewed and have been accepted for publication in the journal of impressionable folk! 🙂
Ditto Jimbo. It’s amazing what the rare CO2 molecule can do, according to CAGWists. They’re that simple-minded, it takes a single, simple molecule to maintain their attention. Nothing else matters to these rent-seeking armchair “scientists”.
So what prevented runaway global warming from occurring 93.9 million years ago? What stopped earth from becoming like Venus at a time when over 97% of climate scientists were not around to fix the problem?
temp:
I write to object to your offensive, abusive and demented post at October 28, 2013 at 4:51 pm which says to me.
I am anti-racist. I oppose genocide in any of its forms. And I am not a “nutbag” but am rational.
I am these things because I am a socialist.
Whereas you are a foul-mouthed anonymous troll trying to disrupt the thread with off-topic abuse. Clear off.
Richard
If there was a major biological extinction in the marine realm …… then one should expect an increase in atmospheric CO2. The rotting biomass generating CO2 and the lack of biomass for converting it to other products would result in a greater outgassing of CO2 from the ocean.
This paper tells us one thing: The Earth is very resilient so if we went up to 900ppm we should be OK. We have in the past at far higher levels.
CAGW is a scare tactic to empty your pockets, pure and simple. Just look at the main players’ vested interests. From Pachauri and Oxburgh to the BBC Pension investments and the large insurance companies like Münchener Rückversicherung (Munich RE) – carbonated investments to the hilt. If you seek the truth, follow the money. >>>>>>>>>>>> That’s what many UK land owning Lords are cashing in on right now. It’s a con job.
So 94 million years ago there was a significant area of warm shallow ocean with consequential low oxygen levels. How is a slight increase in CO2 concentration in the present going to dramatically increase the area of shallow ocean worldwide?