Pat Michaels: High School Science Discredits The New York Times’ Latest Global Warming Whopper – Forbes
…More completely, that would be the consensus of scientists who built their careers on the global warming gravy plane and really don’t want to go back to coach.)
Gillis has taken over the Times’ global warming beat from the much more careful Andy Revkin, and he isn’t shy about pushing lurid warming stories. He’s not, because Gillis wants action, which, in its latest incarnation, would be a tax on everything we do that in some way is powered by fossil fuels. That would mean pretty much everything we do.
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North West Passage blocked with ice – yachts caught
‘The North West Passage seems to be reversing its recent warming trend and is threatening to end the dreams of dozens of adventurous sailors. A scattering of yachts trying to transit the legendary Passage are caught by the ice, which has become blocked at both ends and the season may be ended early.’ Source
http://www.sail-world.com/USA/North-West-Passage-blocked-with-ice%E2%80%94yachts-caught/113788
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2013 Northwest Passage CLOSED without Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker escorts for transit.
At least 22 yachts and other vessels are in the Arctic at the moment. Some who were less advanced have retreated and others have abandoned their vessels along the way. Still others are caught in the ice in an unfolding, unresolved drama.”
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Dr. Judith Curry: Overestimated global warming over the past 20 years
‘Recent observed global warming is significantly less than that simulated by climate models. This difference might be explained by some combination of errors in external forcing, model response and internal climate variability.’
‘Dare we hope for sanity from the AR5 in their assessment of detection and attribution? Based upon the ‘leaks’, I am not too hopeful.’
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MIT Climate Scientist Lindzen: Global warming is a ‘religion’
‘Global Warming has become a religion,’ writes Richard Lindzen. “A surprisingly large number of people seem to have concluded that all that gives meaning to their lives is the belief that they are saving the planet by paying attention to their carbon footprint.’
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Al Gore’s Global Warming Desperation
…Eight of those studies predate the thousand-year global extension of Mann’s “hockey stick” graph of 2003, meaning that he had to deliberately ignore a huge swath of scientific evidence, which, if honestly considered, would have caused him to throw it into the trash. Instead, he and others associated with the IPCC essentially pretended that no other meaningful contradictory information existed.
In other words, Mann’s “hockey stick” is a bunch of what Colonel Potter of the TV series M*A*S*H used to call “horse hockey.”
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“Huge canyon discovered under Greenland ice”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23866810
milodonharlani says:
Similar archaeological finds have been made in the wake of retreating Swiss glaciers, yet again demonstrating the cyclical nature of ice advance & retreat during the Holocene, as in prior interglacial phases:
http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/18/archaeological-finds-in-retreating-swiss-glacier/
More on the Greenland canyon
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Gail Combs says: Seems Greenpeace picked the WRONG PEOPLE to irritate.
Today’s Scores From The Arctic – Russian Coastguard 1 Greenpeace 0 or Green Watermelons met Real Reds and lose.
Greenpeace have just made a massive miscalculation of who to mess with in the Arctic, in this case Russia.
The story goes like this Greenpeace wanted to go the Northern Sea Route in Russia’s Arctic and protest, for that read, interrupt the search for oil and gas in the Arctic, the Arctic is reckoned to have 13% of the worlds undiscovered oil reserves and around 31% of the worlds undiscovered natural gas reserves.
Entry to the Northern Sea Route is by permit only, Greenpeace applied 3 times, and 3 times the Russians rejected the application, so the nobly motivated watermelons at Greenpeace decided they would ignore the lack of permit and go anyway….
A Greenpeace icebreaker that entered Russia’s Arctic without permission to protest offshore energy exploration is leaving after being threatened with gunfire by that country’s coast guard….
http://toryaardvark.com/2013/08/27/todays-scores-from-the-arctic-russian-coastguard-1-greenpeace-0/
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Seems to me Greenpeace now only exists to perpetuate itself. I’m not seeing anything green about them except the money flowing their way, and peace hasn’t broken out all over the world just yet. Time to pack it up and go home, Greenpeace.
P.S. Never poke a ‘Bear’ with a stick.
It is interesting that calling some science or technological issue a ‘religion’ has become if not a cliche then at least a trope. I’ve seen critics of evolution call it a religion (doubly ironic given that presumably those critics regard religion as a good thing) and also anti-vaccinators call vaccines a ‘religion’ (e.g. here http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom/dr-suzanne-humphries-new-israeli-polio-vaccine-campaign-is-not-science-based/#.UiBld7xTS70 )
In some cases I suppose the point that they are trying to make is that it is a false religion? Odd though either way.
Nyq Only:
re your post at August 30, 2013 at 2:32 am.
There is nothing “odd” about AGW being a religion. It is a religion.
AGW is completely based on faith.
It has no supporting evidence and is refuted by much evidence which AGW-believers ignore.
AGW has its dogma. i.e.
CO2 is a GHG (it is, but so what?)
The observed rise is atmospheric CO2 is anthropogenic (it may be, or it may not be).
The rise in atmospheric CO2 is the primary cause of the recent rise in temperature (almost certainly not true).
etc.
AGW has sacred texts. i.e.
IPCC Reports.
AGW has its priesthood. i.e.
Mann, Trenberth, Hansen, Gore, etc.
AGW has its acolytes and true believers. e.g.
Nyq Only.
Religions can be good or bad. The Aztec religion was evil because it promoted death and destruction. The AGW is more evil than the Aztec religion because it attempts to impose more death and destruction.
Richard
How many readers of the BBC article on the Greenland canyon will realise that it proves the Earth has been much warmer in the past. With the theory of positive warming feedbacks thus neatly de-bunked, in a sane world we would see the end of cagw hysteria. In truth, I expect they will rationalise it away as usual.
Richard, I totally agree with you, but governments of the world do not want the AGW myth to be exposed, because if it was, then the flow of taxes that people pay to “save” the planet would stop. There is too much at stake to admit that a trace gas is not going to irreversibly heat the Earth, there is a huge industry dependent on renewable power. The EU has told the UK we have to decrease, drastically our reliance on fossil fuels, they have also interfered with our policies on water supplies, by claiming it will be a scarce resource in our rapidly warming future.
We need cheap energy to keep the Western economies expanding, the myth of AGW and lies about shale gas and fracking are preventing that from happening. The UK needs to leave the EU, we need a right of centre government, as does the US, if we have any hope of reversing these lunatic policies.
Richard like other religions it also uses the concepts like ‘heretics’ used for those that fail to believe in the ‘right way’ and creation of ‘evil ‘ which explains way they need to paint AGW sceptics as not merely wrong but ‘mad or bad’
And above all its amazing how often the word ‘belief’ are seen in what is supposed to be science. For some there is no doubt AGW is seen as a full blow religion , and lets remember its own ‘prophets’ , Mann etc., called there work ‘the cause ‘ hardly an idea that has much scientific foundations.
And the old religions are creating new sins:
http://www.3news.co.nz/Fossil-fuels-An-industry-of-sin/tabid/1160/articleID/311233/Default.aspx
“Fossil fuels: An industry of sin”
“The church already makes an effort not to invest in industries it sees as unethical, such as pornography, gambling, tobacco and armaments. It’s Rev Newton’s aim to add fossil fuels to that list.
“For us, the science is really clear; we need to keep 80 percent of the world’s gas, oil and coal reserves within the ground if we are going to have any chance of keeping the rise in climate to within 2degC, so we think divesting from fossil fuels is very much a pertinent issue of the age, and we need to start acting now.””
I find Judith Curry`s remark interesting.
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‘Dare we hope for sanity from the AR5 in their assessment of detection and attribution? Based upon the ‘leaks’, I am not too hopeful.’
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Judith was annoyed when, recently, the AGU came out with what she seemed to consider was an unscientific statement. But from what I can gather she actually did little about it. Judith is a heavyweight in this discussion, and what she does matters. When the IPCC report comes out, it will be interesting to see whether Judith just says she does not like it, or whether she actually does something.
Wind turbines clutter the north German countryside
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/climatism-watching-climate-science/2013/aug/28/wind-turbines-clutter-north-german-countryside/#.Uh6Wlwo3HmM.twitter
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But all is not well with the Energiewende. According to figures from the German Federal Ministry, the 22,962 wind turbines operating at the end of 2012 provided only 7.3 percent of the nation’s electricity and about 1.8 percent of the nation’s energy consumption. Despite the location of many turbines on the windy North Sea, German wind turbines operated at a capacity factor (actual output vs. rated output) of only 17 percent in 2012.
The low capacity factor of German wind turbines makes wind electricity expensive. Driven by increased costs from renewables, household electricity rates almost doubled from 13.9 eurocents per kilowatt-hour to 26.0 eurocents per kilowatt-hour from 2000 to 2013. Today, Germany has the second highest electricity rates in Europe, more than triple U.S. electricity prices.
Greenpeace is lucky they are leaving with their ship. The Real Reds are known for confiscating ships that they perceive (note, I did not say actually do) violate their sovereign space.
The Curry article above is the most important. Big journals and important scientists are FINALLY telling the truth about global warming. This is just a toe in the water, but if the rest of the science community does not attack these first thinkers to question the dogma of warming, we will get more. Hopefully this represents the hole in the dike.
Time will tell, but the quality of journals says alot.
Some who were less advanced have retreated and others have abandoned their vessels along the way. Still others are caught in the ice in an unfolding, unresolved drama.
What helicopters are suitable for lifting heavy loads under Arctic atmospheric conditions? Seems there’s some money to be made in salvaging derelicts up North.
@kadaka. Helicopters prefer cold weather and low elevation so they would perform best over Arctic waters. But there are only a few types that can really lift any significant weight. The king of helicopters is the Russian MI-26 which I believe can dead lift 30,000 lbs. You would need a fuel barge nearby. I was inside one in Novosibirsk a decade ago. I wouldn’t be surprised if the downwash from these machines could easily capsize a boat. An interesting rescue problem.
@- andrewmharding
“….but governments of the world do not want the AGW myth to be exposed, because if it was, then the flow of taxes that people pay to “save” the planet would stop. ”
The tax raised from the use of fossil fuels is FAR greater than the tax derived from restricting fossil fuel use. The dominant motivation for governments is to support the use of fossil fuels because that generates far more revenue than can be gained from reduction of emissions.
@- “There is too much at stake to admit that a trace gas is not going to irreversibly heat the Earth, there is a huge industry dependent on renewable power. ”
There is over a century of science, its roughly contemporaneous with the development of evolutionary theory, that validates the theory that as a GHG rising CO2 warms the planet. The size of the renewable power market is a minute fraction of the fossil fuel industry. The huge industry dependent on fossil fuels has more to lose by several orders of magnitude than the renewable power business.
Just in pure monetary terms the market forces opposing fossil fuel use reductions are much, MUCH greater than any gains that could be made by renewable power generation. Look at the amounts each business group spends on funding and lobbying politicians, the asymmetry is enormous.
Judith was annoyed when, recently, the AGU came out with what she seemed to consider was an unscientific statement. But from what I can gather she actually did little about it. Judith is a heavyweight in this discussion, and what she does matters. When the IPCC report comes out, it will be interesting to see whether Judith just says she does not like it, or whether she actually does something.
???? Civilized human beings, especially those of the “scientist” persuasion, consider “doing something about” errors to be speaking out against them, writing about them, communicating with others about them. What else did you have in mind? Firebombing somebody’s house?
I’m genuinely curious. What would you consider to be “doing something” that she isn’t already doing and that remains within the ethical boundaries that keep us from beating one another over the head with rocks when we disagree?
rgb
CAGW is clearly a religion. It both irks and amuses me when people state that they “believe in science”. I am a “scientist” in that I incorporate the scientific method in my daily work and life. In short, the scientific method is a never ending loop of hypothesis, experiment, conclusion, hypothesis, experiment, conclusion. Each hypothesis must be tested. Sometimes the experiment comes very close to matching the predictions of the hypothesis. Since it almost never exactly, absolutely, perfectly matches, the hypothesis is refined, and hence another experiment. On the other hand, sometimes the test completely trashes the hypothesis, and one must buck up and throw the hypothesis away. In the case of CAGW, the “experiment” is simply the passage of time, comparing the actual behavior of nature to its predicted behavior. The experiment has failed, and the hypothesis should be discarded.
In the case of CAGW, there are those who say that the hypothesis was the opinion of eminent “scientists”, hence it MUST be correct. If you understand the scientific method, you understand that science is NOT a belief system. Science is actually a DISBELIEF system, in as much as its basis is to not believe anything just because an “authority” says that it is so. If you “believe” something based purely on testimony of authority, you are practicing a faith, not science.
I also get both irked and amused when I see a car with multiple bumper stickers, with one stating “Question Everything” (which I agree with whole heartedly), yet others supporting the CAGW initiative.
AGW is a religion.
Here is the Warmists’ prayer:
Our Carbon, which art in heaven,
Damned be thy name,
Thy power be gone,
Emissions be none,
On Earth as as well as in heaven,
Give us this day our daily rations,
And forgive us our emissions,
As we forgive those who emit against us,
and lead us not into electrification,
but deliver us from evil dioxides,
For his is the kingdom, the power and the Al Glorey for ever and ever, Carbon.
You can’t falsify a religion.
You can’t falsify man-made ‘global warming’ because they changed it to ‘climate change’. You can’t falsify man-made ‘climate change’ because they changed it to ‘climate disruption’. You can’t falsify ‘climate disruption’ because they changed it to ‘extreme weather’……………. 🙂
Even if we were in the depths of another Little Ice Age they would not ‘repent’. They will blame carbon dioxide for disrupting something and causing it. This is a religion.
“Never poke a bear with a stick”.
Sometimes “Fuzzy fights back”.
http://darwinawards.com/personal/personal2002-22.html
rgbatduke writes “I’m genuinely curious.”
Judith has given testimony before Congrssional committees. I suspect she will in the future. She could testify that the new IPCC report is a load of scientific garbage. Judith has access to scientific publications where her work would receive acceptance. She could write a severe criticism of the “science” that the IPCC has (not) presented to support it’s claim of 95% certainty. You, yourself, have stated that if the IPCC persisits in doing what it would appear to be doing there ought to be “hell to pay”., IMHO, Judith should be one of those leading the charge, in the MSM, the scientific journals, in public statements, showing the science of why the IPCC’s claims of near certainty are just plain, old, scientific garbage.
Someone with some stature in the scientific community, who used to be a supporter of CAGW, needs to stand up the the preachings of the Royal Society, The American Physical Society, the UK Met. Office, etc. etc.etc. on the scientific certainty that CAGW is supported by solid science. None of these organizations has polled their members to determine whether they support these statements.
Someone of some scientific stature, who was a warmist, needs to become an activist speaker to, as I say, lead the charge. Who better than Dr. Judith Curry?
Northwest Passage ice chart as of Aug 26th. I don’t think any of the expeditions made it to their planned destination this year.
Dangerous business made more dangerous by the global warming hype.
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/WIS56CT/20130826180000_WIS56CT_0007236133.gif
Oh, bugger: “North West Passage blocked with ice – yachts caught”
Blimey: Where’s that friggin’ Global Warming when you need it?
Obviously, believing the IPCC has it’s dire consequences.
I would like to suggest some reading on religion and prophecy. AGW does seem like a religious movement with belief based philosophy, prophets and a set of social moral that are being passed on. The book “When Prophecy Fails” copy write 1956, by Leon Festinger/Henry Riecken/Stanley Schachter provide an interesting perspective on how the followers react to failed prophecy with increased fervor and intensified belief. The perspective would seem to apply to the failure of the AGW prophecies.
Good grief – the fellow running http://northwestpassage2013.blogspot.com/ has been incredibly busy the last few days. I wasn’t going to check back until next week, but it looks like the NW passage may be closed for the year with vessels trapped between two barriers. It looks like one vessel made it through a route that deterred an ice breaker – “NW Passage History – POLAR BOUND becomes the first yacht to navigate a Route 1 West Northwest Passage via McClure Strait”.
There’s a video of a rescue from a few years ago – an ice breaker pulls a yacht, Fine Tolerance, from the place it got stuck. Might as well have dragged across some rocks, but it may have made it. http://youtu.be/nsOsWEo4p1Y
Bill Illis, you write “I don’t think any of the expeditions made it to their planned destination this year.”
At least one did, but I admit they were exceptional. Adventure Canada uses their cruise ship Sea Adventurer to run two cruises “Into the NW Passage”, and “Out of the NW passage”. The first goes east to west, changes passengers, and then the second cruise goes west to east. These two voyages, through the NW Passage, were completed. However, Sea Adventurer is ice hardened, and is not like some of the other ships which may be trapped.