From the University of East Anglia , home of Dr. Phil Jones and “hide the decline” comes this telling missive suggesting that we just need to dump that inconvenient consensus thingy if we are ever going to get new laws passed.
Call to modernize antiquated climate negotiations
The structure and processes of United Nations climate negotiations are “antiquated”, unfair and obstruct attempts to reach agreements, according to research published today.
The findings come ahead of the 18th UN Climate Change Summit, which starts in Doha on November 26.
The study, led by Dr Heike Schroeder from the University of East Anglia (UEA) and the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, argues that the consensus-based decision making used by the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) stifles progress and contributes to negotiating deadlocks, which ultimately hurts poor countries more than rich countries.
It shows that delegations from some countries taking part have increased in size over the years, while others have decreased, limiting poor countries’ negotiating power and making their participation less effective.
Writing in the journal Nature Climate Change, Dr Schroeder, Dr Maxwell Boykoff of the University of Colorado and Laura Spiers of Pricewaterhouse Coopers, argue that changes are long overdue if demands for climate mitigation and adaptation agreements are to be met.
They recommend that countries consider capping delegation numbers at a level that allows broad representation across government departments and sectors of society, while maintaining a manageable overall size.
Dr Schroeder, of UEA’s School of International Development, will be attending COP18. She said: “The UN must recognize that these antiquated structures serve to constrain rather than compel co-operation on international climate policy. The time is long overdue for changes to institutions and structures that do not support decision-making and agreements.
“Poor countries cannot afford to send large delegations and their level of expertise usually remains significantly below that of wealthier countries. This limits poor countries’ negotiating power and makes their participation in each session less effective.”
The researchers found that attendance has changed in terms of the number and diversity of representatives. The number of delegates went from 757 representing 170 countries at the first COP in 1995 to 10,591 individuals from 194 countries attending COP15 in 2009 – a 1400 per cent increase. At COP15 there were also 13,500 delegates from 937 non-government Observer organisations.
Small developing countries have down-sized their delegations while G-7 and +5 countries (Brazil, China, India, Mexico, and South Africa) have increased theirs. The exception is the United States, which after withdrawing from the Kyoto Protocol started to send fewer delegates to COPs.
The study, Equity and state representations in climate negotiations, also looked at the make-up of the delegations and found an increase in participation by environmental, campaigning, academic and other non-Governmental organisations.
“Our work shows an increasing trend in the size of delegations on one side and a change in the intensity, profile and politicization of the negotiations on the other,” explained Dr Schroeder. “These variations suggest the climate change issue and its associated interests are framed quite differently across countries. NSAs are well represented on national delegations but clearly the government decides who is included and who is not, and what the official negotiating position of the country and its level of negotiating flexibility are.”
Some countries send large representations from business associations (Brazil), local government (Canada) orscience and academia (Russia). For small developing countries such as Bhutan and Gabon the majority of government representatives come from environment, forestry and agriculture. The UK has moved from mainly environment, forestry and agriculture to energy and natural resources. The US has shifted from these more conventional areas to an overwhelming representation from the US Congress at COP15.
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What we need is a “Dictatorship of the Proletariat”. Hmm….That expression seems familiar.
According to “research” published today????? Holy Cow! They’ll let any old thing pass as research, huh?
Mitigate nothing, adapt nothing, close the door on any AGW Summit and leave us sceptics alone.
Tax the AGW Greens if they must believe in Myths and Euhemerisms as a means of “Saving the Planet”
The structure and processes of United Nations climate negotiations are “antiquated”, unfair and obstruct attempts to reach agreements, according to research published today.
Reading between the lines “reach agreements” would be code for “agree with a particular side”. Sounds like somebody needs to have it their way now,now, now.
Climate Change panel chief says ‘not invited to COP18’
By Bonnie James
“The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) will not be attending the upcoming United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP18/CMP8) in Doha, chairman Dr Rajendra K Pachauri has said.”
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=544308&version=1&template_id=36&parent_id=16
I think I have just found another hockey stick. No of delegates vs time
Yeah but, the addition of all these NGOs and activists act as one – it should carry the day for those who want to bring down civilization.
How utterly unexpected: the whiff of a huge ‘climate change’ windfall attracts parasites like the odor of excrement attracts flies.
Do you sense an inconsistancy here?
This recommendation is apparently to change the current make-up of delegations:
So, they want to reduce the size of delegations, but keep the “broad representation across” “sectors of society.” Who will be the first to go? People who know the science? What sectors of society seem to be unrepresented today? People who make things?
[1] – At least they admit it!
[2] – Exxon, Intel, BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto, Shenhua are all non-Governmental organisations, but I doubt they are on the list of invitees.
COPxx – The political version of Woodstock …
I could have sworn they have been telling us that there already is a consensus. Now they are admitting there isn’t one?
Climate is a big and complex thing. You need a big delegation to handle it. I’m volunteering.
BrianJay says:
November 19, 2012 at 7:36 am
I think I have just found another hockey stick. No of delegates vs time
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Typical beaurocracy.
The future may reveal that the inability of the UN to sucessfully “reach agreements” may be a major factor in saving the world from the unintended consequences of the misguided efforts of naive control freaks who deeply and sincerely believe that only they know what is best for everybody else in the world.
The new Rome is here.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.
Beautiful!
Now UNFCCC has to adopt a ‘Cap’nTrade’ on themselves before they ‘Debby’ the world!
Bartender at UNFCCC, I’ll take 100,000 euros for not attending please. XD
Bartender at IPCC, I’ll take 10,000 euros for not reviewing the ‘Consensus’. XD
Got’a love the UNFCCC and IPCC Lemmings; more laughs than watching The Smurfs.
FOIA, release the key.
To be honest, I kind of agree. The number of people pushing for conflicting ends will never reach a consensus. However I don’t agree that that is a bad thing.
Is this euphemism for we can’t seem to get what we want as fast as we want it so let’s change the rules to bully everybody else into an agreement they don’t fully understand, & don’t relaise the consequaences of? Reminds me of someone taking another to court over & again because the court keeps finding for the other fella, then eventually, (probably by sheer grinding down & despair) the court finds for the plaintif (again probably just to get shot of them), & they claim full vindication!
This just in: A consensus must be engineered to produce the right consensus or the poor countries get it. In the alternative, it will be easier to just do what we say.
“Poor countries cannot afford to send large delegations and their level of expertise usually remains significantly below that of wealthier countries. This limits poor countries’ negotiating power and makes their participation in each session less effective.”
Imperialism at its best!
Amazing the author is moaning about people jumping on band wagon which the CRU its self has done much to create , meanwhile how many more people from advocacy groups go to this ‘events’ than they used . ?
But another call from AGW proponents for democracy to set aside in the name of ‘the cause ‘ hardly a surprise is it ?
Illogically the author calls people that have control he wants banned, while the people he wants to see there bring nothing but buckets they want filling with cash. So if there ideas do get used they will achieve nothing anyway.
“This limits poor countries’ negotiating power….” So, arriving at the truth about (global) climate is a “negotiation.”
Defund the Useless Nutjobs.