On Wednesday at 10AM ET (7AM PT) the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee will conduct a hearing on (take your pick) global warming climate change climate disruption. Dr. John Christy will be there, but it is confirmed that Dr. Richard Muller of BEST will NOT be testifying. From what I hear it will be webcast, details below.
It is called: “Update on the Latest Climate Change Science and Local Adaptation Measures.”
You can watch the webcast at http://www.epw.senate.gov
Full Committee hearing:
Update on the Latest Climate Change Science and Local Adaptation Measures.
Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:00 AM EDT EPW Hearing Room – 406 Dirksen
Witnesses
Opening Remarks
Panel 1
Dr. Christopher B. Field
Director, Department of Global Ecology, Carnegie Institution for Science; Professor of Biology and Environmental Earth Science
Stanford University
Dr. John R. Christy
Distinguished Professor, Director of Earth System Science Center, Department of Atmospheric Science
University of Alabama in Huntsville
Dr. James J. McCarthy
Alexander Agassiz Professor of Biological Oceanography, Museum of Comparative Zoology
Harvard University
Panel 2
Secretary John R. Griffin
Maryland Department of Natural Resources
Dr. Margo Thorning
Senior Vice President and Chief Economist
American Council for Capital Formation
Dr. Jonathan Fielding
Director, Los Angeles County Department of Health
National Association of County & City Health Officials
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So are they continuing the recent practice of allowing the minority one witness? And sometimes exercising veto power over the minority’s decision (eg when they forced the GOP to swap out Monckton for Gingrich)? When I realized that the Senate majority was stripping away at the rights of the minority party in such a manner I felt physically ill. It would be nice if this practice were not ongoing. I also wonder, given the presence of, it appears, a single skeptic among a group of believer witnesses, why the House can’t or won’t hold any hearings to counteract the blatant political bias present.
Andrew says:
July 31, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Dunno why it matters, they will still have that ‘for other purposes’ clause in whatever they pass. I firmly believe the entire lot of them are morally corrupt and do not represent us in any way, shape, form or fashion. It’s just Two Card Monty. Liberal Republicans and Socialist Democrats.
In UK politics month of August comes under heading ‘silly season’. What about US?
Talking about Muller, I think it says a lot when a (supposed) sceptic turns into a believer – and it makes the news…
‘Update on the Latest Climate Change Science ‘ suggests that the physical causes of climate frequencies and their phases are a part of the work. Because it is well known that astronomical frequencies of the solar system have a timeless part on the climate frequencies measured on Earth it seems suitable that astronomers are included in the science of climate change.
Are there astronomers present?
Update: The climate frequencies can be related to solar tide functions and simulated:
http://www.volker-doormann.org/images/solar_tide_gv1.gif
How long people will brain washed by false prophets?
http://www.volker-doormann.org/images/agw_poll.jpg
V.
Make no mistake about the influence of the greens and their strangulation of a nation with green tape.
In Australia, an army base was attacked by a terrorist(s) with the admitted intention of killing as many troops as possible.
3years after the event green tape has stopped all but one base revising and upgrading their surveillance.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/defence-bases-wait-for-terror-upgrades/story-e6frg8yo-1226438132568
The greens won 12% of the vote at the last election but control 90% of the left wing government actions. The carbon tax was categorically voted against, yet now it is legislation.
So 1 skeptic getting a hearing is actually very good going.
vukcevic says:
July 31, 2012 at 11:43 pm
In UK politics month of August comes under heading ‘silly season’. What about US?
In the US, “silly season” officially runs from the beginning of July through mid-September. But in an election year, it runs from 1 January until Election Day…
vukcevic says: July 31, 2012 at 11:43 pm
In UK politics month of August comes under heading ‘silly season’. What about US?
I am both proud and sad to see that exists on your side of the pond as well as ours. Good and bad will come from it. May you and your leaders take the lead, as well as ours. We’ve had good happenings as well as bad here. Scientifically, Anthony et al. Politically, Ted Cruz or Tom Coburn. Thanks to the inner strength of the above, one holds hope. Daniel Hammond and James Delingpole on your side. The hunt is on.
Sen. James Inhofe is ranking member on this committee so expect some awkward questions.(I hope)
Is Dr Christy just the token sceptic in the mix? It is of course jolly good form to show “fairness” despite here in the UK t(& IPCC) the conclusion is drawn long before the review is made. You Colonials ought to watch a few episodes of “Yes Minister” from the 70s & 80s about how the UK Civil Service works, & runs the country. When a Minister makes a decision it is alway a “courageous” one! AND one never ever holds a public enquiry unless one knows the outcome beforehand, that way the guilty are promoted out of harms way in due course!
Jack says:
August 1, 2012 at 12:22 am
Make no mistake about the influence of the greens and their strangulation of a nation with green tape. In Australia, an army base was attacked by a terrorist(s) with the admitted intention of killing as many troops as possible. The greens won 12% of the vote at the last election but control 90% of the left wing government actions. The carbon tax was categorically voted against, yet now it is legislation. So 1 skeptic getting a hearing is actually very good going.
There are different levels of sight. In Germany we have a fundamental law politicians have to take an oath on, to recognize the articles in the law. It says ‘Art, science, research and teaching are free. The freedom of teaching is bonded to the fundamental law. All Germans have the privilege for the resistance to anybody, who remove this order, if other remedy is not possible.’
I think it has become a problem, since politicians violate the law by constrain science in bondage with the help of corrupt people, who may authorities in special disciplines, but not necessary in climate science.
http://www.volker-doormann.org/images/banner11.jpg
One level of sight is the way of sight of science.
400 years ago Jacob Handl has written a song:
“Ecce, quomodo moritur justus.”
“Behold how the righteous man dies
And no one understands.
Righteous men are taken away
And no one considers:
The righteous man has been taken away from present iniquity
And his memory shall be in peace.
In peace is his place
And in Sion is his homestead.
And his memory shall be in peace.”
The way of science is a lonesome way because there are no friends or fellows.
It may possible that the king comes to the scientist to learn from him, but it is impossible that a scientist comes to a king or his servant to tell science, like to serve a soup from China.
V.
“Sen. James Inhofe is ranking member on this committee so expect some awkward questions.”
No one in Congress has kicked AGW butt longer, more thoroughly, more enthusiastically, and with greater result than Sen. James Inhofe.
How about: ‘Er – nothing to report…’
At 12:20 AM on 1 August, Volker Doormann had asked of the hearing:
No, that would be inconceivable. There is absolutely no possibility of a ginormous mass of fusing hydrogen 93 million miles away having any influence on the earths climate at all.
Or of the elected thugs making up our federal government acknowledging such a possibility.
No, it’s got to be the “little clique of quacks who proclaim themselves the Consensus on Climate, guardians of the vault of exclusive knowledge,” and it’s something of a miracle that Dr. Christy is being allowed to present.
I expect him to have microphone trouble.
Unless, of course, they manage to slip him a Mickey Finn beforehand.
Wake me when they actually change a law.
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I wonder if one of those experts could answer how global warming causes weather synchronicity with religious mythology or why Wikipedia is considered a trusted source of objective information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Rosa_storm
Climate data show that the storm is one of the first to form at the end of Southern winter, some 10 days before August 20 and September 20.
In popular belief, the Santa Rosa storm is one of the most violent of the year. However, reality is different. For the City of Buenos Aires (according to the Villa Ortúzar SMN Observatory), the storm has only appeared five days before or after the 30 August on sixteen occasions since 1861. However, showers are frequent in this period, which helps keep the myth alive.
Of the sixteen storms, seven have occurred since 1992, probably owing to global warming.
Dr. Margo Thorning is not only a skeptic, but also an excellent debater and public speaker. She can and has opposed laws and regulations based on AGW theory for some time.
John Christy’s testimony is now available, I have a post on it at Climate Etc.
http://judithcurry.com/2012/08/01/john-christys-epw-testimony/
The most amazing thing is that there will be some there who do not have the courage to admit it’s all political.
“Not so fast. Science is not a democracy. The head count fallacy has been recognized as irrational since Aristotle. Even if science were a democracy, for every scientist who supports the notion of human-caused global warming, there are more than ten who consider that notion pure vanity, and they have made their names public…
“That is not science, but it has been the official line ever since. No science, just bureaucratic conclusions contrary to science, an excuse for a brand new tax…
Both Galileo and Einstein were famous deniers of centuries-old theories. They were right. The consensus was wrong…
“As Dr. John Christy told us just last week, having lived among the world’s poor, their lives there are brutal and short. Those who kick the poor in the teeth while pretending to soak the rich do not merit the votes from either.”
(Mr. Linder, Hearing On Protecting Lower-Income Families While Fighting Global Warming, hursday, March 12, 2009, U.S. House of Representatives, Committee on Ways and Means, Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, Washington, D.C.)
It is painful to watch our elected officials regurgitate some of the debunked talking points. Chairwoman Boxer (D-CA) just insisted on putting in the record that 97-98% of climate scientists agree that on AGW. Now Sen. Cardin (D-MD) is blaming the drought and derecho’s on AGW.
It is rather sad…
Watching it now. Gotta like cherries. The Democrats are picking them at an astonishing rate, all out of context and making the giant leap to cause without proof.
Someone should inform Madame Chairperson Senator Boxer where the “98% of climate scientists agree with …” comes from.
You’ve seen the witness list and if you know anything about the party controlling the Senate, you already know what the results of this hearing will be.
You also know what will be reported by the press, as well.
The elections can’t come soon enough this year. Let’s hope for a change in leadership as well as getting some new members elected.
Boxer now asking Christy on bias
Field claims NOAA stations are accurate – peer reviewed. Boxer skeptical since Watts et al not yet peer reviewed.