“Death threats” story now proven false by ANU Chancellor Ian Chubb
The bizarre now laughable “climate scientists get death threats” at Australian National University has finally imploded completely with the former chancellor Ian Chubb going on record in the Australian today saying:
“For the record, there were no alleged death threats except when journalists picked up the story.”
That puts an end to the issue of there ever being any death threat. There weren’t ever any at ANU, then or now.
Now the issue of how the Australian media took annoying and rude emails (we’ve never questioned that) and turned those into a lie of international proportions will take the stage.
A screencap of the story:
Well that’s the end of that. Simon Turnill has more at Australian Climate Madness.
David Appell, who went on record to say I deny the existence of my own mother because I had the journalistic sense he didn’t and didn’t believe any of this was credible from the beginning is was recently whining that I’m a “bully” for pointing out the truth and calling him on his own childish behavior in this matter. His reputation as a science writer now lies in tatters, as he’s destroyed his credibility with his crusade of the non existent death threat issue.
Likewise, blogger/scientist Nick Stokes, who fancies himself as being cool and methodical, was completely taken in, and like Appell, seems unable to come to terms with his own quik-set epoxy position that seems to be a product of the tribalism he and Appell share.
They’ve earned a place in climate blog history right up there with “Vermin Supreme” for their inability to accept reality. I expect they’ll be making some sort or wardrobe change/fashion statement soon. In the Vermin Supreme style, I suggest wearing orange road cones:
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They can be men, apologize for their errant and childish behavior towards me and other skeptics on this matter, and move on. I’ll be happy to accept their sincere apologies posted here or on their own blogs and put the matter behind us. Ball’s in your court fellas.
I hope it is the latter rather than the former. Otherwise, I see Josh cartoons in their future.
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Quik-set epoxy! A marvellous analogy for the immovable mindset of some climate ‘scientists’ Made my day.
Wasn’t there a guy with a kangaroo culling program? Weren’t climate scientists rightfully concerned that their funding might get culled? If that’s not a death threat, what is?
Delusional characters. GK
They can be men, apologize for their errant and childish behavior towards me and other skeptics on this matter, and move on…Otherwise, I see Josh cartoons in their future.
In the meantime, perhaps some savage satire–uhhhhhhh–gentle caricature from Josh will prod them onto the honorable path…
I vote for a Josh cartoon!
“The wicked flee when no man pursueth,,,”
Chubb said he trusted the man who came to him. Which raises the question, who was that man? And is he being disciplined for outright lying to Chubb?
Aw forget it. Already know the answer to the second question. There will be an investigation and he will be exonerated. Not necessarily in that order.
I hope they act like men as well, but I’ll believe it when I see it. Whenever stupid believers promote nonsense or are caught out telling porkies, they don’t seem to have any shame at all.
Just look at Ehrlich and his stupid predictions and now he still operates as though nothings happened and not a hint of shame at all.
They lie and they know that they lie.
Quark Soup in a basket followed by Oi!You! Moyhu pie.
Come on Nick and David, the sooner you admit mistakes and put things right, the less painful it is.
Quik-set epoxy…. Thanks for the midnight chuckle Anthony. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for an apology but I am looking forward to a Josh Lampoon.
Who knows? If you are a crazy leftist living off government grants, with the goal of destroying the livelihood of millions, a bit of criticism might seem like a death threat.
Chubb has once again skated over the real issue. He seems to be saying that all academics need to be protected by security measures like swipe cards because just anyone could walk in to their taxpayer funded offices.
As a long standing denizen of the ANU, I am mystified by this. To the best of my knowledge, no academic has ever been killed, or even assaulted, in the ANU’s history, because of a dispute about academic issues. Not one. Not ever.
I discount drunken brawls during/after wine and cheese nights, which are far more of a threat to the ‘elf and safety’ of academics than genuine disagreements about big issues. And, oh yes, there have been quite a few. Sexual infidelity and internal politics (including parking and office space) figure prominently.
What we see (apart from the lawyeresque sliding away) is the normalisation of the idea that publicly funded institutions are only accessible to those who have been pre-approved via a swipe card. Thanks, taxpayers!
As for Chubb, he is now the Chief Scientist, whose remit is to justify the carbon dioxide tax. Nuff said.
can we change this
“Now the issue of how the Australian media took annoying and rude emails (we’ve never questioned that) and turned those into a lie of international proportions will take the stage.”
to this
“Now the issue of how the Australian media took harsh but valid criticism found in emails (we’ve never questioned that) and turned those into a lie of international proportions will take the stage.”
hehe I think it has a more “journalistic” vibe to it.
Chubby meant to set the record straight sooner, but just never got round to it. He should have kept his trap shut. Right, nicky?
Gail Combs says:
May 28, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Quik-set epoxy…. Thanks for the midnight chuckle Anthony. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for an apology but I am looking forward to a Josh Lampoon.
In this instance, a Josh Harpoon is more apropriate….
“Otherwise, I see Josh cartoons in their future.” …
Aha! A threat that makes mere death seem like the soft option … less embarrassing, anyhow!
Nothing new. Warmists like Appell are liars, cheaters… pseudo-science eaters.
But most intelligent citizens have already come to that conclusion. Just don’t hold your breathe for Appell to admit anything from under his cone.
At least Ian Chubb has some honesty to set the record straight.
O PS love the correction they did on the piece.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-11/anu-releases-abusive-emails-sent-to-climate-scientists/4005132
first correction
“UPDATE (May 21): The release of these emails under Freedom of Information followed reports last year (see related stories above) that ANU scientists had received death threats. Climate change sceptics have claimed that the released emails contradict suggestions that any death threats were received, but a spokesperson for the ANU says the university is standing by its claims that death threats were received. Questions have also been raised about whether one of the released emails did, in fact, constitute a threat to use a gun, with a person involved in the kangaroo culling program claiming the comments were made by him, and were in no way intended as a threat.”
It bad but next correction really takes the cake
“Editor’s note (May 24): This story has been amended to clarify that the specific emails released under FOI were found by the Privacy Commissioner to contain abuse, but not overt threats.”
Really? “but not “overt” threats”…. how about no threats at all. These guys just refuse to move an inch.
So the whole story was a lie, but the climate scientists wished they got death threats so their wild post modern consensus science would seem more believable. Incredible. Kindergarten science.
“I hope it is the latter rather than the former. Otherwise, I see Josh cartoons in their future.”
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That could be construed as a veiled threat. Maybe even a death threat as one may not be able to live with being portrayed in Josh cartoon.
None of this surprises me about the Australian media, in particular the ABC. And alarmists say people like Andrew Bolt are “shock jocks”. Well, that’s just…shocking! This will all be quickly “disappeared” in time for Gillards climate saving tax starting July 1st.
*whispers* Gillard/Swann, are you taking note of the tanking economy?
‘What if climate change turns out to be a natural fluctuation? They’ll kill us all’
So, they decided emails were death threats?
Anthony, you’ve just got to love the BS that revolves around the ivory towers of the so-called ‘climate science’. There are more active stories to report on than there is in world affairs. And the best part is that most of the clowns have been sequestered in their ivory towers and sheltered from any form of scrutiny for so long that they are just wide open for ridicule. They are like a bunch of delinquent little teenagers that are going to have to grow up. When faced with that prospect some are going to scream “what’s up with that!”
“Humble in Victory, Gracious in Defeat” is what should apply here. I do not think demanding an apology is particularly humble, whatever the provocation.
Having said that…making an apology by the defeated would be gracious.