Letter to the editor: Carbon Lies

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Letter to the Editor

Watts Up With That?

11th March 2012

The Australian government’s plan to sell their un-saleable carbon tax has hit a snag – their pollsters have discovered that the word ”carbon” provokes anger in the electorate.

This is no surprise. Most decent people hate liars and the carbon tax campaign has been mired in lies from the start.

The first big lie was from Penny Wong who described carbon dioxide as a “pollutant”. But people soon learned that this colourless, non-toxic, natural atmospheric gas is the essential source of food for all life on earth.

The second big lie was graphic – government propaganda pictured a “dirty” coal power station belching black pollution. Three lies in one here – the power station pictured is closed, it is in England, and all carbon dioxide it ever released was invisible.

Their next mistake was to use paid academics to spread scare forecasts of searing heat and never ending drought, all caused by the demon carbon dioxide. The reality has been no global warming for twelve years, heavy snows in the Northern Hemisphere and heavy rains in Australia.

The fourth big lie was from the leader of the government, Julia Gillard: “There will be no carbon tax under any government I lead”.

No amount of weasel words from government propagandists and apologists will erase our memory of these four big lies about carbon.

Their negative image problem is profound: Whenever the Australian people hear “Carbon” they think “Lies.”

Viv Forbes,

Rosewood    Qld   Australia

forbes@carbon-sense.com

I am happy for my email address to be published.

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Bill H
March 10, 2012 4:11 pm

well they are batting 1000…. five lies in a row….
and they wonder how the public can see right through their fecal excrement..

Kev-in-UK
March 10, 2012 4:18 pm

It’s worse than just that word ‘carbon’ – it’s also:
government – aka procrastinating bunch of narcissistic muppets
politician – aka a procrastinating welcher stealing for himself and his own ilk
tax – aka a thievery mechanism that provides procrastinating bar stewards with all their rations
Green – aka a colour that enables justification of all tax and statutory law!
CAGW – an elaborate procrastinating smokescreen to avoid public awareness of the thievery and dismissal of the democratic process!

March 10, 2012 4:19 pm

SNAPPED or SWARMED

Gary Hladik
March 10, 2012 4:19 pm

She should have said, “Read my lips: no carbon taxes!” Then she’d never dare approve a carbon tax!
Oh, wait…

Camburn
March 10, 2012 4:22 pm

Will this letter make it past the Austraian Censors?

Kasuha
March 10, 2012 4:26 pm

” Whenever the Australian people hear “Carbon” they think “Lies.” ”
I sense a wish taking over reality here. Or are there statistics available of how many people are actually aware the aforementioned facts being lies?

clipe
March 10, 2012 4:29 pm

In Canada it was to be called “Green Shift”.
http://www.thesudburystar.com/Blogs/ViewCommunityPage.aspx?BlogID=1859
Been known as “Green Shaft” ever since.
The Great White sceptical North.

March 10, 2012 4:30 pm

There is also the lie about 97% of scientists supporting AGW, The survey was carried out on a limited number who were mainly believers, the majority had no scientific or engineering qualifications, the questions were framed to give answers they wanted. To the farmers and older people who have experienced cycles of weather, statements about the beliefs of scientists on AGW just destroys the reputation of all science.

March 10, 2012 4:32 pm

Very sad.
But thanks for the read Viv.

Anything is possible
March 10, 2012 4:42 pm

I can’t help wondering how much less of a political issue climate change would suddenly become were the Gillard government to be completely decimated at the next election.
Come on, Australia. Satisfy my curiosity…….

kbray in california
March 10, 2012 4:45 pm

Is Gillard marsupial ?
I see a roo coming out of her blouse…
or is it a jackass…
I need stronger glasses and/or
a stronger glass…
what is that?

Richard Day
March 10, 2012 4:46 pm

Liar, liar, pants on fire.
I think of the youtube video with that lovely woman asking the liar, “Why did you lie to us?” and the liar trying her best to slither away. And then the woman slaps down the liar’s sycophant when he tries to poke his nose in there. lmao.

David L. Hagen
March 10, 2012 4:56 pm

See Lord Monckton’s evaluation:

Australia accounts for only 1.2% of global CO2 emissions, and the government’s policy was to reduce this percentage by 5% over the ten-year life of the tax. On the generous assumption that the entire reduction would be achieved from year 1 onward, the fraction of global emissions abated would be just 0.06%. Because this fraction was so small, the projected CO2 concentration of 412 ppmv that would otherwise obtain in the atmosphere by 2020 would fall to 411.987 ppmv. Because this reduction in CO2 concentration was so small, the warming abated over the 10-year period of the tax would be just 0.000085 C°, at a discounted cost of $130 billion over the ten-year term.
Therefore, the cost of abating all of the 0.15 C° of warming that the IPCC predicted would occur between 2011 and 2020 by using measures as cost-effective as Australia’s carbon dioxide tax would be $309 trillion, 57.4% of global GDP to 2020, or $44,000 per head of the world’s population. On this basis, the cost of abating 1 C° of global warming would be $1.5 quadrillion. That, said Lord Monckton, is not cheap. In fact, it is 110 times more costly than doing nothing and paying the eventual cost of any damage that might arise from warmer weather this century.
Australia’s carbon dioxide tax is typical of the climate-mitigation measures now being proposed or implemented. All such measures are extravagantly cost-ineffective.

Goldie
March 10, 2012 5:00 pm

What you have to understand is that its not a carbon tax but a wealth redistribution tax. Any family that earns over $150,000 will be penalised and the rest compensated. Sounds like a lot? A truck driver on a mine earns approximately $120k. In fact, with less than 3% unemployment in Western Australia, anyone who wants to get off their rear end and travel a bit can get a well paid job so long as they are fit and healthy. But still the marxists insist on compensating those who can’t be bothered. Hence they have no incentive to do anything else.

Ian W
March 10, 2012 5:05 pm

From climate ‘scientists’ “hiding the decline” – when tree rings were failed to show rising temperature; to Gliek’s lying about a forged document; and, to Julia Gillard “There will be no carbon tax under any government I lead”: all these have in common total lack of ethics and integrity. These untrustworthy individuals are willingly being used by financiers and politicians interested in furtherance of their own power and wealth through such schemes as Agenda 21 and the ‘Rio declaration’.
And meanwhile children are actually dying right now at the rate of once every 5 seconds from starvation, tainted water, and malaria; and just a dollar a day could save a life.
This gives a really good indication of the priorities of all the people involved in this climate fraud

u.k.(us)
March 10, 2012 5:07 pm

“Decimate”, originally referred to the killing of every tenth person, a punishment used in the Roman army for mutinous legions.

Evan Thomas
March 10, 2012 5:12 pm

Camburn must be under the impression that we have government censors in Australia. Government censorship ended circa 1946. However there is a form of censorship exercised by major media organisations who apparently continue to believe that ‘the science is settled’. Cheers from soggy Downunder.

March 10, 2012 5:17 pm

I love Australia and the Australian people but this story might give illustrate the mountain we skeptics have to climb here.
A few weeks back I was repairing a fridge in a shop. I was in the middle of purging the system before charging it when I noticed one of the Assistants eyeing me and the gas cylinder beside me. There was a loud hissing as I released the gas from the system and the Assistant scuttled off returning a minute later with her Manager (By the way I have no issues whatsoever with her actions…safety in the workplace is crucial and should be encouraged!)
Is it alright for us to be here when you’re working? She asked politely.
Absolutely safe I assured her, and explained what I was doing in some detail.
What’s in the cylinder? She asked again.
Nitrogen. I repeated.
Is that ‘toxic’? she asked.
I grinned and said
I certainly hope not…it’s eighty percent of the earth’s atmosphere!
Reassured they went back to work and as I finished I mused on what had just happened. I decided to conduct a little experiment of my own.
So before I left the shop I asked the Manager (a charming and intelligent person) if she believed in man made Global Warming, ie that CO2 emissions were changing the earth’s climate?
I’m sure you can guess what here answer was!
Oh yes…I’m afraid we skeptics have a long long haul ahead of us.

Steve from Rockwood
March 10, 2012 5:18 pm

I suppose pointing out the fact that she was voted into power doesn’t help.

March 10, 2012 5:18 pm

You have to listen to what Juliar actually says: “There will be no carbon tax under the government that I lead”. Since there is now a carbon tax voted through in Australia by the government it is clear that what Juliar is actually saying is that she does NOT lead that government. It is actually lead and run by the UN, Club of Rome, Sierra Club etc. Juliar is just the poor fall-gal they put in front of the TV cameras. Any other possible interpretation of Juliar’s statement would mean that a politician was a bare-faced liar, and that cannot possibly be right, surely.

Paul R
March 10, 2012 5:25 pm

Ian W says:
March 10, 2012 at 5:05 pm
And meanwhile children are actually dying right now at the rate of once every 5 seconds from
starvation, tainted water, and malaria; and just a dollar a day could save a life.
This gives a really good indication of the priorities of all the people involved in this climate fraud
I agree and this is one of the things I have so much trouble reconciling. We are going to have to live with the disastrous results of these lies in the years ahead, we’re going to have to watch it unfold and live with the perpetrators.

Jer0me
March 10, 2012 5:25 pm

Evan Thomas says:
March 10, 2012 at 5:12 pm

Camburn must be under the impression that we have government censors in Australia. Government censorship ended circa 1946. However there is a form of censorship exercised by major media organisations who apparently continue to believe that ‘the science is settled’. Cheers from soggy Downunder.

When Camburn referred to the ‘Australian censors’ (spelling corrected), I am sure he (gender assumed) was referring to the publication ‘The Australian’ rather than our fair country.

Editor
March 10, 2012 5:36 pm

u.k.(us) says:
March 10, 2012 at 5:07 pm

“Decimate”, originally referred to the killing of every tenth person, a punishment used in the Roman army for mutinous legions.

I think that during the coverage of Hurricane Katerina’s impact on New Orleans (rather, the foolishness of building below sea-level in an area with weak dikes) is when reporters started misusing “decimate” instead of old reliable “devastate.”
Or maybe some cub reporter heard President Bush use it and thought Bush was right.
Perhaps we can start an annual cull by decimating the group of reporters who misuse it.
While decimate may have been used as a punishment, I think the practitioners would be quick to point out that the intent was motivational. After a battle that was not fought with adequate agressiveness, decimating the squad provided “encouragement” to fight better next time.

Steamboat Jon
March 10, 2012 5:37 pm

“kbray in california says:
March 10, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Is Gillard marsupial ?
I see a roo coming out of her blouse…or is it a jackass…
I need stronger glasses and/or a stronger glass…
what is that?”
I see it has that look until you follow the link and a larger picture shows it is a scarf (or is that cravat?).

Paul Martin
March 10, 2012 5:38 pm

When people say “the science is settled” they think they have the solution, but what they actually have is the precipitate.

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