Alternate title: Bill McKibben explained
o_O
I’ve had about two dozen emails wanting me to carry this from the Sydney Morning Herald:
Mental illness rise linked to climate
Erik Jensen
RATES of mental illnesses including depression and post-traumatic stress will increase as a result of climate change, a report to be released today says.
The paper, prepared for the Climate Institute, says loss of social cohesion in the wake of severe weather events related to climate change could be linked to increased rates of anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress and substance abuse.
As many as one in five people reported ”emotional injury, stress and despair” in the wake of these events.
OK, well then, just a thought or two.
1. The average daily diurnal temperature variation varies greatly with location and latitude and altitude. From Wikipedia: High desert areas typically have the greatest diurnal temperature variations. Low lying, humid areas typically have the least. This explains why an area like the Snake River Plain can have high temperatures of 38°C (100°F) during a summer day, and then have lows of 5-10°C (40-50°F). At the same time, Washington D.C., which is much more humid, has temperature variations of only 8°C (15°F). Source: M. Hackworth “Weather & Climate” course notes, with prior permission
2. Moving from Boston to Tampa Florida for retirement or a job, or even a brief trip to Disney World subjects a human to a climate change from this:
to this:
3. The agreed upon climate change (aka “global warming”) signal over the last century is (according to GISS) is:
About 0.8°C or 1.44°F.
Yes that must be it, that tiny variation over 100 years, an order of magnitude or more smaller than daily and seasonal variation is what’s causing the loss of social cohesion and making people worldwide crazy.
4. Or, random acts of severe weather for which there are no trends:
Yep, case closed.
How many words do the Aborigines of Australia have for crap?
5. On the other hand, maybe they are looking at this the wrong way, from Voxy.co.nz in 2010:
6. By the way, this recent report from the Australian Climate Institute cited in the SMH article is old news. This is recycled crazy from 2008.
Climate change and mental health
Prabhat Kumar Chand* and Pratima Murthy
Introduction
The physical health impacts of climate change, especially infections, allergies and
respiratory and cardiovascular diseases are now well recognized. However, the mental health impact of such change, especially in Asian countries became topical after the Asian tsunami. In this article, we attempt to look at the diverse aspects of climate and mental health: seasonal climate variation and its effect on mental health, extreme weather conditions and their psychological impact and specific climatic disasters and their consequences.
Read the whole report from 2008 from the World Health Organization here:
Sounds familiar, there might be plagiarism afoot, better send in John Mashey. o_O
So, making greenhouse gas tax payments to appease Al Gore and his crooked buddies on the global warming hoax is now a medical necessity to save the world?
What will they think of next? We’ve already had the alien invasion aspect, now it causes insanity?
Unbelievable scam artists, too bad some people still fall for the propaganda they are spewing, no matter how ridiculous.
This one is so ridiculous that all I can do is laugh.
Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t.
I’m going to have some right now…. after I stop laughing.
Yer darn tootin’ global warmin’ causes mental illness! Bullsh*t! (and ad-nauseum)
I had to sit through the ABC (australia) Rural Hour yesterday listening to some “expert” parrot all the most extreme warmist drivel while he was trying to answer questions about this issue. The radio barely survived my frustration! The greatest danger to public mental health is the MSM continuing to push the CAGW meme and then hosting talk back sessions that don’t allow any factual information to be heard :-).
Looking at such news, yes the mental illness is definitely there.
We should not lose sight of this very simple fact:
If you believe BS like this, then you indeed must have a mental illness.
I seem to recall something about reports of people having their mental problems exacerbated by worrying about climate change–perhaps from Australia.
That’s strange considering the The Royal Australian and New Zealand Collage of Psychiatrists’ Congress came out last year and stated:
“Climate change related obsessions and/or compulsions were identified in 28 per cent of patients presenting with obsessive compulsive disorder.
REPLY: Thanks for the tip, included in the main body now – Anthony
The issue of greatest concern is that leftist teachers are preying upon children with stories of climate doom causing mental health issues and taking away their incentive to achieve something in life.
Well, look at the kids of today. They are freaked out with brain washing convincing them the planet is doomed. What have they got to look forward too?
I think they should look seriously to what is happening to our children with all this doom and gloom predictions just to make political hay and/or a fast buck. (Al Gore?)
It’s probably us deniers that are driving them crazy…
I think they may just have jumped the shark with this one. I’d say this is proof that the warmists only have a season or two left before they’re show is canceled.
And don’t forget, denial of climate change already is considered a mental illness.
🙂
Meanwhile, back in the real world suicide rates usually rise with long, dark, cold depressing winters.
Hey Anthony you spelt Aborigines incorrectly in the article.
well, look at what CC has done to Ove…he’s more stressed than ever…
30 Aug: The Conversation: Drowning out the truth about the Great Barrier Reef
MEDIA & DEMOCRACY – Ove Hoegh-Guldberg dives into the media’s coverage of an Australian icon’s future.
One of the most straightforward climate change storylines is the link between global warming and coral reefs such as the Great Barrier Reef.
When our reef waters get too warm, corals sicken (bleach), often causing disease and death. And when the corals go, many of the other organisms go with them. At the current rate of ocean warming, we will soon exceed the critical temperature at which this happens every year, causing the Great Barrier Reef to rapidly degrade…
Why is it then that commentators in the media such as Andrew Bolt and Jamie Walker consistently take a different view and posit, either directly or indirectly, that all those leading experts are fraudulent, dishonest or at best shoddy scientists?…
Could it be that confusing Australians about the risk to our reef is highly prized by the people that fund their operations?…
Let’s take Andrew Bolt. Andrew has been vociferous in his claim that scientists like me are alarmists, even deliberately deceptive.
He wraps us all up in the same blanket: me, Flannery and Garnaut. Quite an honour really, given the eminence of my co-accused.
Apparently, we do it because we are mad, we do it because we are on the take, and we do it because we are zealots!…
If conditions had been as hot on the Great Barrier Reef as in the Western Indian Ocean, similar events would have transpired.
We did fear the worst, but we got lucky, hence the reference to “surprising recovery” when the heat stress was abbreviated by storm activity.
It is hard to see what I got wrong…
It is hard to practice as a humble scientist when powerful columnists like Bolt run amok…
http://theconversation.edu.au/drowning-out-the-truth-about-the-great-barrier-reef-2644
REPLY: What a load of crap, Ove isn’t humble, he barged into and shouted down one of my presentations in Brisbane. He’s a complete egotist. – Anthony
As a lot of mental illnesses are caused by bacterial or viral infections and amoebic infections affecting the brain can someone explain how getting syphilis increases with climate change?
I know they are wrong, the voices tell me so……lol.
Okay, I for one will confess that cognitive dissonance from years of exposure to a load of pseudoscientific BS has undoubtedly increased my stress levels, and therefore possibly encouraged depression. It also frequently tests my anger management skills as I struggle not to destroy the PC / newspaper / whatever I’m reading it on. Fortunately I am still able, with a heroic effort of will, to maintain an almost “normal” façade, which means the men in white coats haven’t come for me yet … 🙂
Another one for the Numberwatch list!
Climate Institute was established by Rupert Murdoch’s relatives and their Poola Foundation, which has since put up another $4 million.
CC-stressed Joe Romm should take note Murdoch was “converted” long ago:
Oct 2006: Age: Jewel Topsfield: Browned off, sceptics turn activists
MARK Wootton is not a typical climate change crusader. A “totally non-political” farmer, with a 5058-hectare sheep and cattle property north of Hamilton, in the Western District, he and his wife, Eve Kantor — Rupert Murdoch’s niece — do not fit the mould of dreadlocked greenies preaching about global warming…
When Ms Kantor’s late brother, Tom Kantor, left the couple with a substantial estate last year, they decided to donate $10 million to establish the Climate Institute…
Mr Wootton says he is encouraged by signs that Mr Murdoch, media baron and former greenhouse sceptic, appears to be a convert. His London Sun has launched a “Go Green with the Sun” campaign, warning global warming could put London underwater.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/browned-off-sceptics-turn-activists/2006/10/22/1161455608870.html
As James Reid observed above, the greatest threat to mental health is the religion of AGW.
I would be interested to see the statistics in mental health before and after Al Gore and our Australian warmistas commenced their scare campaign. If mental health declined subsequent to the warmistas bombardment then I’m sure that we can use their same correlation technique to determine that they are the cause of the decline in mental healthy, if in fact, there is any.
If they can’t take the heat they should emigrate to United Kingdom
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/8730125/Parts-of-Britain-suffer-coldest-summer-for-nearly-two-decades.html
“Helen Waite, a Met Office forecaster, said: “The average temperature for central England this summer has been just 15C – this sort of temperature is normally typical of September.”
“Generally speaking, you would expect to see temperatures of at least 17C for this time of year.”
Here in OZ the ABC mentions climate change every 10 mins, Maybe that’s what driving everyone crazy. No kidding, I would say it comes into to every second ABC program in some way or other. In the last week I’ve heard it linked to diabetes, anti-biotics and now mental illness!! Its evidence scientists are now becoming jealous of the money going that way and looking to get their fair share by linking their research to climate change.
“RATES of mental illnesses including depression and post-traumatic stress will increase”.
NOT AS “a result of climate change” but because we are now being told that we are supposed to suffer these effects after a NATURAL disaster!
I am just so grateful that my pioneering forefathers were able to successfully cope with their adversities without the understanding of sophisticated mental health!
I don’t know about Climate Change causing mental illness, but I’m pretty certain that the LACK of evidence for warming in recent years could be linked to increased rates of anxiety, depression and post-traumatic stress in Al Gore and his supporters.
I have worked in the field of mental illness for many years and I woud suggest a few points. Any stress on human beings increases the incidence of mental illness. That includes issues such as catastrophic and greedy management of the economy by right wing financiers, pointless foreign wars, catastrophic predictions of future climate and a host of other demons we face as a price of our human condition. What causes the mental illness is not an issue, it is how we deal with them and learn how to cope with the stressors that is the primary goal. Suggesting climate change is a factor more salient than any other is extremely inaccurate and reflects a poor understanding of the nature, impact and distribution of mental illness.
I’m suffering from “Constant Warmist Bullshit Stress Disorder”.
Note the usual chorus, of jeers, boos, farts and whistles.
However, I know for a ‘fact’ (a rare commodity these days) of several individuals who committed suicide during the long Australian Drought citing depression caused by the failure of their livelihoods and lifestyle projects.
The Imperial British Army in the Indian subcontinent documented hundreds of cases of ‘madness and depression’ which were attributed to the climate. It was called going ‘Doolally’ after the name of the biggest British mental asylum in the country.
Do I believe that CO2 is causing measurable or significant global warming? No.
Do I believe that climate is linked to mental health? Yes.
PJ. The ABC is ‘rabid warmist’.
And I hope that when the new government gets in they will castrate that organization.
I suspect however that the ABC will have subtly changed its tune by then.
Well, the climate communist hippies obviously are seeing stuff that aren’t visible to everyone else, so who’s to say that climate change aren’t causing some kind of crazed mental state.
It is easily provable by observation and at times very fun: deny them and they go completely bonkers. :p
Well if it’s offical that fear of climate change can lead to various mental disorders I imagine that some of the likes of Mann and co are beginning to wonder what levels of law suits the lawyers will bring against them when agw from CO2 is accepted to be a deception………
“charles nelson says:
August 30, 2011 at 12:42 am
Note the usual chorus, of jeers, boos, farts and whistles.
However, I know for a ‘fact’ (a rare commodity these days) of several individuals who committed suicide during the long Australian Drought citing depression caused by the failure of their livelihoods and lifestyle projects….”
Charles, those people committed suicide because of the failure of their livelihoods. Much the same as people who tragically sometimes do after business failures, divorces, job losses. Not because it was hot or cold per se.
The logic you are suggesting is that an Australian farmer before ‘AGW’ never took his life when his farm failed in a drought? Also the British army example you use is misleading. Everyone here will probably agree that putting someone in an extreme climate [for them] for some years will affect their mental health. But that’s not the same as saying the ‘climate’ will affect people in their own situations to the extent stated here, particularly with no real evidence of changes!
I’m more concerned about the mental health problems of alarmism. Last week I watched genuinely terrified families in tears expecting to be wiped out by ‘Hurricane’ Irene.
Yes, I suppose it is ridiculous, on the face of it, to think that relatives or friends of any of the 40 people who were killed by Hurricane Irene will suffer anything like depression.
Gareth Phillips says:
August 30, 2011 at 12:33 am
“I have worked in the field of mental illness for many years and I woud suggest a few points. Any stress on human beings increases the incidence of mental illness. That includes issues such as catastrophic and greedy management of the economy by right wing financiers, pointless foreign wars, catastrophic predictions of future climate and a host of other demons we face as a price of our human condition. What causes the mental illness is not an issue, it is how we deal with them and learn how to cope with the stressors that is the primary goal. Suggesting climate change is a factor more salient than any other is extremely inaccurate and reflects a poor understanding of the nature, impact and distribution of mental illness.”
Let’s omit the “right wing” descriptor … you will find that many of these “financiers”, I prefer to call them international money launderers, are not “right wing” at all but indeed quite “progressive” wealthy elitists of the ilk that we find backing a lot of the current AGW scare campaign.
On the balance, Gareth, I fully agree with you. 🙂
So it follows then that James Hansen has a 28% chance of being an obsessive compulsive. 😉
Kitler says:
August 29, 2011 at 11:34 pm
As a lot of mental illnesses are caused by bacterial or viral infections and amoebic infections affecting the brain can someone explain how getting syphilis increases with climate change?
It’s all that extra hot blood increasing the sex drive!
I seem to recall a couple of years ago the barking bonkers brigade held a conference in nearby Exeter to disccuss the “mental illness” deniers of climate change are suffering from, apparently we should all be medicated or somesuch! I’ll try & hunt down the details later today! 🙂
”The paper, prepared for the Climate Institute, says loss of social cohesion in the wake of severe weather events related to climate change could be linked to increased rates of anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress and substance abuse.”
Funny how here in the UK the msm always seem to invoke the Dunkirk effect, whereby social cohesion increases in the wake of a natural disaster and strangers help each other.
When I was a young lad, it was during the period of atmospheric testing of atomic bombs.
We were told that the radioactive particle so released were affecting the weather.
Whenever it was unusually hot or cold or wet or dry, it was all due to the atomic bomb.
At first we believed it.
Gradually, it became a figure of fun.
“oh – the weather is unusually …” fill in the blank to taste.
“It must be THE BOMB – ha ha ha”.
Gradually we forgot all about it.
I can’t recall if this belief in the BOMB caused much mental anguish.
You mst remember it was in the context of the USA – USSR rush to see who had the biggest bomb and who had the most bombs and the much talk of assurred -mutual-destruction.
So we did have really problems back then.
Only atomic caused bad weather was not one of them.
Today on the other hand – we just make up our own imaginary terrors as we go.
So much more convenient.
You never lack something to be frightened about.
It’s called progress, I think.
It’s the idiots pushing this rubbish that are MAD.
“charles nelson says:
August 30, 2011 at 12:47 am”
Well, there is hope. The ABC broadcast this with none of the usual warmist bias the ABC is famous for. Even Karoly was “quiet”, maybe embarrassed by real science. http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/2011/08/bravo-abcs-balanced-report-on-cloud/
DDP says:
August 29, 2011 at 11:29 pm
“Meanwhile, back in the real world suicide rates usually rise with long, dark, cold depressing winters.”
Because that’s when the warmists fear the return of the dreaded warm summer the most.
Things that may contribute to depression.
Increased cost of transport.
Increased cost of domestic Energy.
Increased cost of Food and domestic products.
Loss of jobs.
Continual exposure to doom and gloom.
Increased government control.
“charles nelson says:
August 30, 2011 at 12:42 am”
I think you’ll find the British Army was not suitably equiped to sustain itself properly in climates such as in India back then. So, as in many cases, it was ignorance of the environment by those in charge, “equipment failure”, heavy thick wollen uniforms, profuse sweating, no option use available shade and no water. Drive anyone “doolally”. It’s similar to early European settlers using their building techniques which proved unsuitable for the Australian climate.
I have been through a couple of doozies, Agnes, Andrew (OK, I was on the edge of Andrew, which is why I list Agnes first), Gloria (no power for weeks), and a few fizzles, like Irene, and each one *increased* neighborliness. What is “social cohesion” anyway? Do we all wear berets and red scarves and march in unison in the town square?
It is so called experts endlessly banging on and on about climate change that causes depression
I’m depressed because our heating has come on 3 times this week, and its August!!!
I thought this might provide comic relief!
A member of a tribe in northern Australia asked their new elder if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild?
Since he was an elder in a modern community he had never been taught the old secrets.
When he looked at the sky he couldn’t tell what the winter was going to be like.
To be on the safe side he told his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that they should collect firewood to be prepared.
But, being a practical leader, after several days he had an idea.
He walked out to the telephone booth on the highway, called the Bureau of Meteorology and asked if the coming winter in that area was going to be a cold one?
The meteorologist responded that the winter would be quite cold, so the elder went back to his people and told them to collect even more wood.
A week later he called the Bureau of Meteorology and was again assured that it would be a very cold winter.
He went back to his community and ordered them to collect every scrap of firewood they could find.
Two weeks later the elder called the Bureau again. “Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?” he asked.
“Absolutely”, the man replied. “It’s looking more and more like it is going to be one of the coldest winters ever.”
“How can you be so sure?” the elder asked.
The weatherman replied, “Our satellites have reported that the Aboriginal people in the north are collecting firewood like crazy, and that’s always a sure sign.”
Sometimes cause and effect can be mis-interpreted.
Lets look at the facts again…
28% of people who believe in AGW have a mental disorder.
It must then follow that a person’s sanity is inversely proportional to alarmist beliefs.
And , 78% of climate alarmists are most likely in denial
🙂
I want to be in the room when Ove’s head actually explodes…like the scene from total recall.
I’m not sure how many words the Aborigines of Australia have for crap, but in a recent speech the Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard said:
By her reasoning it seems that description applies to anyone who dares question the mind numbing incompetence of her “Looney Tunes” government.
Whether it’s her calculated lies to the Australian people days before her election last year (“there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”) the endless spin and cover-ups surrounding her government’s trail of policy disasters, or the snake oil crafted to sell her carbon dioxide tax – one thing’s for sure Ms. Gillard certainly does not take her own advice regarding the dissemination of “crap”.
Our government funded broadcaster, the ABC, has obligingly done it’s best to assist the PM by spreading still more err…. “number twos”. This time an opportunistic attempt to link the recent “unbiased” study by the Climate Institute A Climate Of Suffering with the hysteria promoted by Obama and others surrounding hurricane Irene.
Goodness knows what level of hysteria the ABC would display if the US was to suffer another hurricane such as the one that devastated Texas on 8 September 1900, reported to have claimed as many as 12,000 lives?
As for the Climate Institute’s A Climate Of Suffering, is it any wonder that some people may now be displaying mental illness when they have been subjected to such a constant barrage of alarmist propaganda (“crap”) designed specifically to scare them witless. Particularly so in the case of the current generation of kids and young adults when it comes after 10 -15 years of brain washing at the hands of their believer teachers.
Quoting the words as Willis is wont to express:
Yep, case closed.
How many words do the Aborigines of Australia have for crap?
Yep, one word (noun) is Wara-kurna – place [Wara] of big sh*t [Ku(r)na]!
Warakurna became the title of a new founded community of Aborigines in the 80s. It is a very small Aboriginal community a few kms down the track from Giles Metereological Station, Western Australia.
Len Beadell country.
The waged staff shift between (Giles Met Station) and the Antarctic.
Snow and the [sand] dunes, there are too many adjectives and metaphors to describe these wondrous landscapes. And landscapes that were marketed as a priori and then became real term economic ventures for a few.
Plenty more descriptive terms used for the Australian cultural topology and the insertion into a meme of some economic use for the Oz could be provided.
Mental illness causes climate change belief.
There, Anthony, you had a typo and I fixed it for you!
“Climate Change” DOES cause mental illness. I’ve been depressed for years about the inability to cure AlGore. I can’t imagine how I’m to do it. If I fail all will be lost, me, you, the world, the universe, and all the alternate and mirror universes. Help! We simply must cure AlGore or all will be lost. Bada, ba da, ba da ba da ba da..
‘Collage of Psychiatrists’ (sic) hope they didn’t use sharp scissors.
Deolali transit camp was a transit camp for British troops in Deolali, India, notorious for its unpleasant environment, boredom, and the psychological problems of soldiers that passed through it. Its name is the origin of the phrase “gone doolally” or “doolally tap”, a phrase meaning to ‘lose ones mind’.[1][2] ‘Tap’ may refer to the Urdu word tap, meaning a malarial fever. (Wiki but right as far as I know)
So the madness was mainly from hanging around waiting for orders or the boat home. Warmists waiting for the world to end are probably having similar problems.
Kitler says
August 29, 2011 at 11:34 pm
As a lot of mental illnesses are caused by bacterial or viral infections and amoebic infections affecting the brain can someone explain how getting syphilis increases with climate change?
We have had aliens, deaf fish and now mental health problems, believe me the STD units will want to get in on the wads of cash that AGW will bring. I look forward to that posting Anthony!!
As for AGW causing mental illness, we have a typical correlation/causal relationship.
No AGW is not happening but it makes me depressed that so many people of supposed intelligence believe it. I can also add paranoia to that because I am called worse than racist by Al Gore and his ilk.
If there are any mental health effects at the moment it’s because of the unnecessary hysteria, not any physically imperceptible changes. Stress from not being able to afford to pay AGW-inflated electricity and gas bills can’t help either.
I’ve noticed that one of Ove’s buddies at the Global Change Institute, a certain Prof. David Carpenter is making a presentation on 30th November at the Royal Brisbane Women’s Hospital Education Centre.
The presentation is titled: Do environmental exposures causes ADHD?
http://gci.uq.edu.au/Events.aspx
As a teacher I’ve worked with children with ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder). Their condition is nothing to do with their ‘environmental exposure’ – it’s a mental thing and nothing to do with the weather (oops sorry, climate!)
If I didn’t live in England and I was in Australia instead, I’d love to go to the seminar and politely call-out Prof Carpenter for the absolute twaddle he’s peddling.
“In this article, we attempt to look at the diverse aspects of climate and mental health”
Yup, it’s a wonder we still exist. Luckily we’ve always had a bunch of specially abled obsessive-compulsives to keep the rest of us on our toes. Just think where we’d be if they’d kept it all to themselves.
Getting really worried about mental state of Australians in general………
The mental illness is allready here!
IThe diagnosis is called CAGW
John Peter says:
August 30, 2011 at 12:02 am
I actually had to look up the Telegraph article to make sure they really gave the Met Office forecaster’s name correctly. I’m still not convinced The Telegraph didn’t pick this story up from The Onion.
It’s like experiencing the rebirth of the Goon Show. If only the BBC could find comedy programmes to rival this the UK would be a much happier place.
Maybe the take-away from this is climate-change fear-mongers cause mental illness.
Here’s a new angle – sue Gore, Hansen, Romm for destroying the mental health of our children. Remember, it’s “for the children.”
“The physical health impacts of climate change, especially infections, allergies and
respiratory and cardiovascular diseases are now well recognized.”
Oh, are they now? By whom? It is truly amazing the number of things the “climate change” bogeyman gets blamed for. Beats having to do actual science, I guess, and the pay is the same (probably better, because if they did that, they might be out of a job).
Philip N. says:
August 30, 2011 at 1:08 am
Yes, I suppose it is ridiculous, on the face of it, to think that relatives or friends of any of the 40 people who were killed by Hurricane Irene will suffer anything like depression.
That would be weather, not climate. Lots of Alarmists tend to get the two mixed up, though, so don’t feel bad. The Appeal to Emotion is also an illogical argument, but Alarmists and logic tend not to get along very well.
Not sure how it is spelled but the noongar tribe word for crap is guna
I can tell you that hearing the ABC daily sprout absolute rubbish on warming in almost every program has me ragingly angry and depressed,
then add idiotic Gillard and brown doing their damndest to supress the wishes of the populace and ruin our country..
people who also disagree but wont get off their lazy butts to even dial a phone to register dissent, or sign a petition to help themselves..
depressed?
yeah I am..
I have had a gutfull of idiots who wont even take the time to read, listen and learn a tiny bit about something so important, to fight back.
the above poster whi listed
fuel heating rising food prices increased rates taxes and fees and compliances..perfectly correct.
as a pensioner life is hard enough now. how I will survive if these morons get their way is beyond me.every day is a depressing battle , and getting worse.
Mike Jowsey says: August 30, 2011 at 1:27 am
No, Mike, you’ve got that all wrong. You must have failed logic. The true implication is that there is a 28% chance that an obsessive-compulsive is James Hansen.
interesting.
We used to hear
“Anthropogenic carbon dioxide causes global warming that shall lead to doom”
now its
“Climate change leads to depression and mental illness”
Both propositions as causative factors fall by their own weight.
However, there may be some slight incidental validity to the 2nd proposition, regardless of how insignificant it is.
There were several weeks of fine warm and sunny weather in London. Am I supposed to have been psychotic? Now we’re going into winter. Am I supposed to be depressed?
When spring comes next year, should I lament the loss of winter and summer, since change causes mental anguish?
This of course was funded by some guy’s private load of donated cash, which then became a tax shelter for said guy and donors. Could it be I have a case for proposing that climate change funding is taking money away from things like adequate funding for much needed infrastructure repair, needed military gear, real job creation, and education? Can I get a grant to study this?
Probably not.
I remember a woman from some years ago, definitely obsessive compulsive. She used to hang dry paper towels to reuse. Don’t know where she is today but I’m certain she’s latched on to AGW big time. She’s probably protesting outside a pepsi bottling plant right now.
In all seriousness, I feel quite sorry for such addicted persons, it is a very difficult life for them and those who love them.
I think worrying about ‘climate change’ is a mental disorder so, in my estimation, Professor Hickie has now proven it for me. Thanks Ian!
I bet it is also responsible for the heartbreak of psoriasis.
I don’t know about climate change causing more mental illness, since climate has always changed and always will. Is our climate “getting worse”? The Alarmists sure want it to be, but unfortunately for them, there’s no evidence there is, despite all their clucking about it. The CAGW/CC Belief certainly appears to be a type of mental illness, though. It is evidenced by irrationality, cult mentality, latent sociopathology characterized by a desire to harm those who don’t share your Beliefs (as in the extremely violent and gory “no Pressure” video), the idea that “the ends” (saving the planet) justify the means, a general breaking down of morality, and the tendency to lie, to name just a few.
If you are not stressed and upset after severe weather hits you, then you are miraculous. It was not fun when I had 3 ft of water in my basement. But perhaps good mental health (which includes a realistic understanding that we can’t control the weather and not having fantasy expectations about life) will help you cope. People today are so sheltered and pampered that they easily fall apart at the slightest inconvenience. That is not mental illness, it is being spoiled. In India they have water running in the streets every monsoon. That’s just what happens at that time of year. And in Chicago we lose a couple of trashcans and large branches to wind every year. That’s just what happens. And every few years we get buried in unbelievable amounts of snow. We call it “winter”.
The temperature change over the last 100 years is less than the temperature range between your household thermostat turning your furnace on and turning it off. ’nuff said.
“loss of social cohesion in the wake of severe weather events related to climate change ” In my experience after a severe weather event people come together to help, far away family and friends call,and strangers even come to help after really server weather events. That strikes me as more social cohesion not less, sure beats sitting around on Facebook all day.
What with the threat of ET (Possibly) coming our way to zap us all if we don’t give the AGW crowd more money, levels of mental illness associated with ‘climate change’ do seem to be on the rise…..
I agree. A klaxon sounding loudly, constantly, 24/7, without a break, is enough to drive people on the edge, into a full blown psychosis. For the sake of our mental health, and the health of the children, grand children… please… please… stop the mindless and spurious clang clang, oooga ooga. GK
“Thursday, 6 May, 2010 – 09:49 The Royal Australian and New Zealand Collage of Psychiatrists’ Congress…..”
When I see the word “collage” instead of “college” I am quickly led to wonder if everything that follows is a hoax.
IanM
OCD patients would show increased obsessive compulsive behaviours if the face of any threat, so how does this study prove anything..?
Let’s add mental illness to the partial list of things caused by Global Warming.
A partial list of things caused by global warming
Acne, Afghan poppies destroyed, African holocaust, aged deaths, poppies more potent, Africa devastated, Africa in conflict, African aid threatened, aggressive weeds, Air France crash, air pockets, air pressure changes, airport farewells virtual, airport malaria, Agulhas current, Alaskan towns slowly destroyed, Al Qaeda and Taliban Being Helped, allergy increase, allergy season longer, alligators in the Thames, Alps melting, Amazon a desert, American dream end, amphibians breeding earlier (or not), anaphylactic reactions to bee stings, ancient forests dramatically changed, animals head for the hills, animals shrink, Antarctic grass flourishes, Antarctic ice grows, Antarctic ice shrinks, Antarctic sea life at risk, anxiety treatment, algal blooms, archaeological sites threatened, Arctic bogs melt, Arctic in bloom, Arctic ice free, Arctic ice melt faster, Arctic lakes disappear, Arctic tundra lost, Arctic warming (not), a rose by any other name smells of nothing, asteroid strike risk, asthma, Atlantic less salty, Atlantic more salty, atmospheric circulation modified, attack of the killer jellyfish, avalanches reduced, avalanches increased, Baghdad snow
Plus 1,000 more
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: “O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.” And God granted it. Voltaire
Given what Tom Pedersen says in teh Victoria Columnist:
“Tom Pedersen, Pacific Institute for Climate Solutions executive director, said it was a challenge to abandon scientific jargon and explain climate change in an understandable way to those without a scientific background. (…)
“And I hope the public and policy-makers will understand when they are being duped by those segments of society that would rather we do nothing about acting on climate change,” he said.
And the level of propaganda taxpayers are paying for:
We can indeed agree that that some mental illness must be involved… LOL
Having foreseen this cheap shot at linking in induced hysteria to climate change, I visited a professor of Mental Health. She had quite the library of books on the history of the subject. One of them had a reference to mass hysteria/madness starting in the late 1880’s that had all but disappeared by the early 1900’s. It is interesting to note that there was widespread flaps about the climate changing in the same time span. The only difference between the 2 time spans is that back then, nobody was distorting the fact that the climate was cooling.
Global Warming causes Global Cooling is just another cheap shot at inducing mass hysteria, brought to you by the makers of AGW Trend without end, Amen, aka Climate Change/ Climate Disruption/ Climate Chaos and other assorted brands of panic.
How could anyone possibly know that climate change causes people to have mental illness especially when the theory has not been proven to be true?
If anything depression and uncertainty of life can result from the stress placed on people by the taxes, regulations and in some cases dictatorial restrictions imposed by government in support of the theory. That however does not make for mental illness but it does make for a change at the next election.
The poor lad interviewing Bill McKibben and the counterpoint man on PBS last night was seen to be aghast at the ludicrous nature of what Bill was saying and body-languaging. It was bad.
Bill is someone to behold, not unlike Heidi Cullen.
I’m sure the interviewer was glad to have the counterpoint man to turn to.
Maybe “Climate Change Causes Mental Illness” is true, look at all the stupid things coming out of the AGW Alarmists. 😉
Exaggeration and confusing case and effect. Stock-in-trade for climate catastrophists.
Turning the teevee of for 7 days works wonders.
As a lad it was the full moon that drove people crazy, do we get clearer skies with all this 0.8oC warming. Wow it must be very profitable to write “crap” papers. I am in the wrong game, but I have a ethical business environment to work in unlike these chaps.
“Philip N. says:
August 30, 2011 at 1:08 am
Yes, I suppose it is ridiculous, on the face of it, to think that relatives or friends of any of the 40 people who were killed by Hurricane Irene will suffer anything like depression”
With all respect to those that died, how do the authorities categorise ‘hurricane’ related deaths? Just out of interest. What are the criteria for car crashes for instance? When is a skid on a normal wet road, leading to a tragic fatality, different from a skid on a wet road in a tropical storm? Another point of interest would be how many of these deaths were caused by the fear of the hurricane? People overloading cars, old guys up ladders etc. And how many deaths would there be from similar accidents over the same area/time/population. Again, just interested.
Gasp……sigh…..”must”….groan….”reach”….moan…”straw”!
“However, the mental health impact of such change, especially in Asian countries became topical after the Asian tsunami.”
Yes, surviving a tsunami, hurricane or tornado could adversely affect your wellbeing. So what is the point they are trying to make – apart from the blinding obvious?
Philip N. says:
“Yes, I suppose it is ridiculous, on the face of it, to think that relatives or friends of any of the 40 people who were killed by Hurricane Irene will suffer anything like depression”
No, of course not. What’s ridiculous is attributing that to CO2 emissions.
Climate Change Causes Mental Illness
it is obvious
just look at what it done to your lot!??!?!
This might be correct, cause this climate change rubbish is driving me mental.
Someone here has probably already said this, so kudos to you.
How silly. They should have recognized that it is mental illness that causes climate change.
Climate change compulsion and obsession are caused by the continual media hype of false climate change fears and doom predictions !
The Author is funded by pharmaceutical companies:
http://theconversation.edu.au/act-now-on-climate-change-to-protect-australians-mental-health-3099
Richard111 says:
August 29, 2011 at 11:19 pm
“Well, look at the kids of today. They are freaked out with brain washing convincing them the planet is doomed. What have they got to look forward too?
I think they should look seriously to what is happening to our children with all this doom and gloom predictions just to make political hay and/or a fast buck. (Al Gore?)”
Frightening children and causing depression in children are bad enough. But Warmista go way beyond that, especially Al Gore. They want the children to become very angry because their parents and grandparents deprived them of the environment that existed in, say, 1950. They want the children to be angry enough that they declare a right to the environment of 1950. Restoring this environment will be the work of every responsible person, that is, every person older than a child. This responsibility will be met through fewer freedoms and greater government control. The main item is much higher taxes to the central government (and someday the world government) so that it can restore the climate that the angry children have a right to. (For an example of the results of this kind of thinking, see the recent riots in England.)
Al Gore is the consummate front man. He seems so stupid that it is hard to imagine that his goals are fully in line with Stalin’s.
Al Gore does make me crazy
AGW theory does not *cause* mental illness, it merely *reveals* it.
I suspect a febrile media with apocalyptic warnings is far more likely to induce mental illness than the actual weather.
It is uncertainty which stimulates stress responses. It is continual ‘balance in the media’ aka running two stories with different implications which probably contributes to schizophrenia. And it is politicians who think that scaring the populace is the way to get them to be ‘more green’ who are ultimately responsible.
The climate? Gimme a break…..
There may be a thread of truth to this article but the authors have no idea – it’s the guilt trip these AGW fanatics lay on people, particularly seniors and others on the periphery of the discussion that is more likely the cause of any said depression. These AGW types are the most irresponsible group of people to champion a cause I’ve ever seen.
Jeff: YOU WIN !!!
[[[ jeff says:
August 30, 2011 at 9:33 am
How silly. They should have recognized that it is mental illness that causes climate change. ]]]
“How many words do the Aborigines of Australia have for crap?” LOL too funny.
My guess is that this entire study was funded by a government grant.
I feel stressed out about rising energy costs due to Irelands ridiculous Carbon Tax. I feel mental anguish when I read pumped up tripe about how we are either going to burst into balls of flame or drown. And I get downright depressed when I even hear Joe Romm’s name. So yes, Climate Change Causes Mental Illness.
So, I post the comment above and navigate back to the main page to find a new piece about Joe Romm. Thanks Anthony. Now where did I put my Prozac ?
It’s funny browsing the WAWT articles and seeing this article just before a story about James Hansen getting arrested.
Same thing as with CO2 and temps; it is the other way around!
Last week we were told that Aliens would destroy us in order to stop man made global warming. Presumably insanity comes first and the Alien attacks come afterwards!
It’s no joking matter. The evidence is in.
Australia’s Carbon-taxing Gillard government is insane and fairly quickly driving all of us poor Aussies mad as well.
Climate Change Causes Mental Illness
That’s crazy talk!.
Climate change is just the latest incarnation of the message that we are destroying the planet and dooming ourselves.
When I was younger, my young cousin, who was about 10 at the time, began crying hysterically when we kicked up an old rusty spray paint can that had been left outside an it started leaking (hissing). He kept saying all the trees were going to die and we wouldn’t be able to breath anymore and started hyperventilating. This is what the teachers taught us on Earth Day (Arbor Day).
He finally stopped when his older sister and I put the can in a pipe and covered it up to make it look like we had stopped it. This was at the time when the ozone layer was about to disappear and kill us all and shortly before the killer bees were going to reach north america and attack everybody.
In the late 80’s and early 90’s I remember being terrified every time Newsweek had some apocalyptic fallout style map on the cover. Children now grow up with the idea ingrained in their minds that we are killing the Earth and some disaster is just around the corner.
Global warming is just the constant “we are destroying the Earth” drumbeat reaching critical mass. After this is over, it will be something else. This is making everybody mental and the only prescription is a little education.
Since I try to behave here and have been plunging the sword into the heads of hapless warmists for a long, LONG time, and no longer even make believe I’m ‘playing off so-&-so’s comment’ or ‘responding’ – I just say what I want to, and then I watch ignorant warmers s.t.(blank) up, again I’ll repeat for everyone, so they can throw this directly into the face of the next moonbarking LOON they see who thought it was warming since the mid ’90s:
In order for there to be a G.H.G. Effect, there would have to be – an EFFECT. But, in the past SEVERAL decades as we have all watched manmade gas contributions multiply, the amount of ATMOSPHERIC INFRA-RED, has D.E.C.R.E.A.S.E.D.
Now: the DEFINITION of HEAT on GAS is MOTION of that gas. Not maybe or usually, it’s one of the defining characteristics of heat,
on a gas.
Yet, in ALL these YEARS, not ONE STUDENT: not ONE PROFESSOR; not ONE A.N.Y.B.O.D.Y. has simply GONE and GOTTEN the PHOTOS of SECTIONS of the SKY from the early 1900s, then SHOWN US, the MANDATORY INCREASE in ATMOSPHERIC MOTION as SEEN through OPTICAL TELESCOPES, as the DECADES have PASSED.
See the phenomenon called
‘Atmospheric Scintillation’
is ALSO called,
the STARS TWINKLING over those TWINKs’ HEADS.
And if THAT ATMOSPHERE gets HOTTER, it MUST SCINTILLATE MORE: the STARS, must TWINKLE more VIGOROUSLY.
And of course that hasn’t been happening, because there IS no more heat in the atmosphere today.
Now since manmade gases have been rising uncontrolled, if there were A.N.Y. G.H.G. Effect at ALL, we would all be UNABLE to DENY THAT, because the OPTICAL TELESCOPY FIELD would be SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER as they TROTTED OUT the PHOTOS of the SKY, getting MORE and MORE DISTORTED
by mandatory GAS MOTION.
Secondly, the INFRA-RED TELESCOPY BUSINESS would be SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER about the RISE in MANDATORY ATMOSPHERIC INFRA-RED, compromising THEIR viewing, and reducing the number of days per year they could use THEIR instruments.
Oh – and there are ASSEMBLIES built, which FLEX the MIRRORS of TELESCOPES to ADJUST for ATMOSPHERIC SCINTILLATION: HEAT DISTORTION.
And ya notice how the people who MAINTAIN these TELESCOPE MIRROR FLEXING assemblies are UTTERLY SILENT?
Notice you NEVER HEARD OF THEM BEFORE?
That’s BECAUSE THEY ARE U.T.T.E.R.L.Y. SILENT about their having to adjust (flex) the mirrors, MORE and MORE and MORE, to ADJUST for MORE and MORE HEAT.
And they’re SILENT because they don’t have O.N.E. SYLLABLE to UTTER about RISING ATMOSPHERIC MOTION creating more DISTORTION because there IS NO RISING MOTION because there IS NO RISING QUANTITY of HEAT in the atmosphere.
If there WAS, then there MIGHT be a REAL GREEN HOUSE GAS EFFECT.
Since they’re all UTTERLY SILENT – that silence is DEAFENING: if you believed there was such thing as a Greenhouse Gas Effect, you’d better be prepared to explain how it is, that these GASES can ABSORB EVER MORE HEAT, yet NOT become more ACTIVE.
Since NO WARMER will EVER be able to reply to your seeming to grasp that the STARS TWINKLING over their HEADS are MOCKING THEM NIGHTLY, be prepared for them to CUT their EYES to the FLOOR and then AROUND without LOOKING at YOU.
So: to RECAP, we have the recent 14 year study of the North American Midwest stating they found LESS atmospheric i.r. than before 3/4 of the year.
THAT’S NOT POSSIBLE IF THERE WERE A G.H.G. Effect.
We have the field which helped Einstein cement RELATIVITY by MEASURING the DEFLECTION of a BEAM of STARLIGHT by the GRAVITATION of BODIES it PASSED crossing the UNIVERSE – OPTICAL TELESCOPY –
UTTERLY SILENT about how they have been desperately coping with the EVER RISING, MANDATORY DISTORTION of their VIEWING as they ply the atmosphere with, effectively, a microscope that multiplies heat distortion MANY times – even as SO CALLED G.H. Gases have RAGED E.V.E.R. UPWARD.
Utterly Silent while the WORLD MELTS DOWN looking for – FINALLY – SOME INSTRUMENT THAT PROVES a RISE in TEMP correlated to RISE in FICTITIOUSLY NAMED G.H. gases??
Uh, no. They’re SILENT because there IS no more distortion. One check of the NUMBER of YEARLY VIEWING DAYS (nights) will prove there aren’t FEWER due to ATMOSPHERIC SCINTILLATION: the STARS TWINKLING – ever more vigorously.
If there WERE actually a G.H.G. Effect, THAT is IMPOSSIBLE. You WOULDN’T BE ABLE to SHUT them all UP they’d be so eager to explain and show.
Then the INFRA-RED TELESCOPY FIELD. Any word from them as INFRA-RED has POLLUTED their INSTRUMENTS, and generally RUINING the VIEWING CONDITIONS?
EVEN after the study that reported LESS INFRA RED… they’re SILENT? As many instruments ARE RENDERED LESS and LESS USABLE?
Finally we have the PEOPLE who MAINTAIN and BUILD the TELESCOPE MIRROR FLEXING ASSEMBLIES, which ADJUST, for the VERY DISTORTION we are discussing – how is it they are UTTERLY, UTTERLY SILENT as atmospheric distortion makes them need to flex mirrors MORE, and MORE?
No.
There IS no such thing as a Greenhouse Gas Effect. If there is, you’d better have the proof of how you revoked the definition of HEAT on GAS being M.O.T.I.O.N.
So FLICK THAT into the STUNNED FACE of the NEXT WARMER HILLBILLY who tries to tell you there is a Green House Gas Effect.
I GUARANTEE you it’ll get so quiet you can hear a liberal’s self esteem fall even FURTHER through the FLOOR.
“IAmDigitap says:
August 31, 2011 at 4:27 pm”
WOW! A great post.
Introducing an inherently self-contradictory and manipulatively fear-inducing idea into the media, education, and government causes an increase in insanity.
Surprise!