From Tom Nelson – too good not to share.
More proof that Fraudster Al Gore doesn’t know how to use the Internet
Al’s Journal: June26th, 2011 Ice and Snow Disappearing from Mt. Rainier
The effects of the climate crisis are hitting closer and closer to home:
Deep Snow Delaying Opening of Sunrise Area at Mount Rainier National Park | National Parks Traveler
[June 21, 2011] Too much snow will keep the Sunrise area in Mount Rainier National Park closed through the Fourth of July weekend and until at least July 8, according to park officials. Also, the White River Campground won’t open until July 1.
As the accompanying photos show, there really is a lot of snow still waiting to melt away at Sunrise.
And it isn’t just Washington:
Western snow pack is well above normal, Squaw Valley sets new all time snow record
And here’s Willis complete and thorough debunking of another recent snowfall study claiming reduction in snowpack: Gotta Admire The Chutzpah
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How is that possible when he invented it?
Clearly when Al said ‘disappearing’, he really meant ‘increasing due to Climate Disruption’.
Is it just me or does the second picture seem to have a lot more trees than the first. Are you sure they’re of the same location?
Gore blimey !!!!!
I posted this link a couple of days ago, but it definitely belongs here.
As of late June, the current snowpack in some areas is as much as 391 TIMES average.
That would be 39100% if percent could even be used in this context!
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2011/06/olympic-snowpack-is-39100-percent-of.html
A picture tells a thousand words, or should I say two pictures!
Only confirms what everyone already knows, that AG couldn’t find his arse with both hands.
Since when has Al Gore cared about what is happening in reality? He probably still has hanging chads dancing in his head.
“This entry was posted in Al Gore is an idiot”
How many terabytes does that category take up on the server? I’d think that filing and maintaining articles in that category would employ 20-30 people full time.
Might past melts have something to do with Mt. Rainier being a volcano?
http://www.nps.gov/mora/naturescience/volcanoes.htm
Gee, Mt.St. Helens lost 100% of its snow and ice on May 18 1980! This, of course isn’t due to climate, and nor will Rainier be when it decides to wake up. And, because it IS an active volcano, how much of that Rhode Island-sized inundation is perhaps due to volcanic heat flow? Not a single nod to that possibility in the WP article. No matter. WHEN (and that is a certainty, Mr. Gore) Mt Rainier decides to get warm from within, that lovely snowcap and all will translate into a lahar aimed at the Seattle area.
I can’t see how a volcano’s snowcap can be used to gauge climate. It makes no sense. But like most geologists, I look at AGW in the Anthropocene as some fancy terminology to inflate the importance of what has happened for time immemorial…unprecedented????
What is funny is the source Gore cites for the information proves he’s a half-truther aka a liar
“Mount Rainier’s ice and snow coverage expanded from the late 1950s to around 1980 during a wetter-than-normal phase of a climate cycle called the Pacific Decadal Oscillation. These recent trends indicate that Mount Rainier’s glaciers are very sensitive to warming and could grow again with modest changes in temperature or precipitation, the scientists say. ”
Gore conveniently (as liars do) ignores mentioning that portion of the facts and sticks with the 14% reduction from 1970-2008 as the only facts he deems worthy of mentioning.
I am sorry but there is no link between what Al Gore is stating on his website, and what this report is stating. ie he (or the washington post story) states that snow/ice has reduced 14% over the last 40 years. This story says there is more snow for this time of year. But compared to what? 2 years ago? 40 years ago?
I would love for Gore to be wrong, but I do not know the snow/ice details in the area, but it should be that which the story compares his claims with. Does anyone have a 40 year comparison which goes up to the current date (not 2007/8 which the WP reports cites)?
I am not trying to be troll like or difficult I promise.
I can not recall correctly, but I think it was 1970 with Mount Rainier also had another record snow fall. I believe the amount was 1200 inches. That could explain a lot. Also Mount Rainier has been known to have hot spots develop which melt snow and ice regardless of the local weather. It is hard to keep up with what is going on Mount Rainier here in the Mid West.
My question for anyone here is this, and I’m a skeptic also…the amount of snow that was received this winter was much above average. But how does this play to the long term affects. In his blog, and I’m not a fan of Al’s, he states “ice and permanent snow atop Washington state’s Mount Rainier melted in the past four decades”.
One heavy snow winter doesn’t make up for that long term of a loss, if it has in fact occurred. Can anyone give me a good answer to that cause I’m really wondering. Now, if this type of winter occurred continously over the next decade, I could see the argument, but weather doesn’t make climate…
@Adam – I first thought the same but then realized that the camera angle and distance from the restroom building is causing the difference. The photographer is likely elevated due to the existing snowpack.
Adam;
Yes, I think the second picture is shot from a higher elevation. Since the spot the original photog was standing is under about 20′ of snow, that’s rather inevitable, doncha think?
LOL
“How is that possible when he invented it?”: – Arthur C. Clarke’s very first story, “Travel by Wire” (1937): “I don’t travel by wire! You see, I helped invent the thing!” Score one more for Sir Arthur as a prophet…
polistra says:
June 27, 2011 at 3:46 am
Note it’s only 39000% more than average.
I really hate late season comparisons like this. If normal for today is 1″, and normal melting is 0.5″, then tomorrow there ought to be 781X normal. Utterly meaningless. More useful is to look at graphs of snow depth and compare them to other years, e.g. Mt. Mansfield in VT has data for their snow stake going back decades.
See http://www.uvm.edu/skivt-l/?Page=.%2Fmansel.php3&dir=.
Is the lower picture really taken from the same spot? Because if it is, it looks like there are a clump of trees growing where the Sunrise restrooms are supposed to be.
The one thing that sticks in my mind the most about Gore is from the debates during his election attempt. I still remember vividly his comments about his plan of creating a lock-box for social security. He was still trying to add more to that even though the debate had moved on to several other topics. Looks like a pattern to me, Gore is stuck in yesterday regardless of what today is!
Government itself moves very slowly and I think that is one big problem regarding most of the so called studies that are done. By the time a study is financed, organized, executed and then written up all the circumstances pertaining to it have changed completely and therefore the conclusion/s is/are no longer valid just like Gore no longer being valid in anyway what so ever!.
My family and I visited Yosemite 2 weeks ago and were unable to go to Mono Lake because Tioga Pass was still snow-blocked.
However, due to the overabundance of snow, Bridal Veil and Yosemite Falls were magnificent!
I visited a warmista blog a couple of weeks ago and was amazed at the mental contortions they undertook as they tried to explain how this heavy snowpack is all due to Global Warming and CO2.
They frequently contradicted themselves in the same post, but were so sure of their belief that they would vilify anyone who tried to point out discrepancies in their thinking and they were certainly not going to allow any links to data which challenged their viewpoints.
Evidence means nothing to those people and yet, they consider themselves to be far ‘smarter’ than everyone else.
Roy UK says:
June 27, 2011 at 5:15 am
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Roy, check out the links (especially Willis’ link) at top o’ this page…
I live between Seattle and Mt. Rainier. It snowed here in late May. We have only had about three days above 70 all summer. Mt. Rainier is looking more snow-covered than I have seen it in years.