Canada finds climate sanity

Back from the brink

A sudden outbreak of sanity seems to have taken hold Canada. Firstly the idea of a carbon tax appears to have been killed off for good:

Conservatives kill carbon tax

Conservatives have kiboshed a carbon tax, Environment Minister Peter Kent confirmed Thursday.

“It’s off the table,” he told reporters Thursday after accepting an award from World Wildlife Fund International on behalf of Parks Canada.

“There’s no expectation of cap-and-trade continentally in the near or medium future.”

…and then this:

Government delays pulling plug on old-fashioned light bulbs

Tories propose pushing deadline to 2014 over lack of alternatives to incandescents

The Conservative government wants to postpone pulling the plug on incandescent light bulbs, saying it needs more time to allow for technological innovations and to deal with concerns about compact fluorescent lamps.

(H/T to Ross McKitrick, who offers to send a real estate guide, and to Bishop-Hill, where this post was pinched from, but good news needs sharing)

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89 Responses to Canada finds climate sanity

  1. Ray says:

    Then it would be time for British-Columbia to dump this stupid carbon tax too.

  2. Robert of Ottawa says:

    This is what a Conservative (not pretend Conservative) majority government cand do. Let’s hope the incadescent ban is extended even further to never.

    Americans please note, you will be able to purchase incadescents in Canada.

  3. Bob Tisdale says:

    I dislike compact flourescents, so do the fixtures in this house, but I’ve spent time in Canada, and it’s a little too chilly for my blood most of the year. I guess I’ll tough it out here with the CFLs here in the U.S.

  4. vboring says:

    Incandescent bulbs are very efficient in Canada.

    The waste heat isn’t wasted if it helps keep your house warm.

    In the same way, the payback on more efficient bulbs is much faster in places where you run the air conditioning most of the year.

  5. James Sexton says:

    Great, now I gotta go get my light bulbs from Canada……

  6. Richard says:

    In Australia we have the useless compact light bulbs. Julia Gillard is singing the praises of UK for going ahead with the Carbon Tax, Tony Abbott the opposition leader is praising Canada for voting in a party that opposes the Carbon Tax.
    IMO Julia will lose the next election because of her lying about not bringing in the Carbon (Dioxide) Tax, but she has done a lot of damage in the meantime.

  7. Skeptic says:

    Oh Boy. Suzuki will totally flip out. For sure he’ll cry himself to sleep each night.
    The Conservatives have only been in power a couple of weeks and they’re already a winner.

  8. P Walker says:

    The real estate guide sounds interesting , but how long will this government last ?

  9. Paul Deacon says:

    The Canadian dollar is stronger than the US dollar too.

  10. ldd says:

    Yes!

  11. Latitude says:

    and to deal with concerns about compact fluorescent lamps.
    ==========================================
    There’s limits by the FDA, EPA, etc on how much tuna you should eat….
    ….especially if you are in one of the high risk groups, pregnant, etc

    All because of mercury.

    If these stupid light bulbs weren’t a “green” idea, the greens would be all over it………….

    Just try putting that much mercury in someone’s home as a carpet cleaner, furniture polish, bug spray, Windex!

    They would be screaming their stupid heads off.

  12. Paul Coppin says:

    Bob Tisdale says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    I dislike compact flourescents, so do the fixtures in this house, but I’ve spent time in Canada, and it’s a little too chilly for my blood most of the year. I guess I’ll tough it out here with the CFLs here in the U.S.

    ____

    Wuss. :)

  13. Eyes Wide Open says:

    “but how long will this government last?”

    It’s a freshly minted majority – good for at lest four years. The usual opposition, the Liberals, were decimated in the election and are in total disarray. If the Conseratives govern well and sustain a healthy economy, they’re a slam dunk for another four after that at least!

  14. Alan says:

    “The real estate guide sounds interesting , but how long will this government last ?”

    Next election is Oct 2015. Plenty of time for this type of sanity to be nurtured and grown.

  15. Paul Coppin says:

    P Walker says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    The real estate guide sounds interesting , but how long will this government last ?

    At least four years, maybe(likely) more unless they really screw up. The effective competition was completely decimated in the recent election and the upper house has been secured. Of course, its politics. Can’t hold us to nothin’…

  16. Shrnfr says:

    Personally, the SMD led bulbs have gotten cheap enough that the are more than cost effective against incandescents. Global warming be damned, I am just cheap. With power in my area at about 25 cents per kwh delivered, the difference in running 30W of led vs 240W of incandescent mounts up fast enough to justify the expense.

  17. Paul Coppin says:

    Did we tell you our economy is in pretty good shape too? Housing might not be a bargain. I understand real estate is a better deal south of the border. The only downside of all this good news will the new wave of Brits and Euros who immigrate over, drink our beer, chase our women and constantly tell us how much better things would be if we ran them like they do in the places they came from… :) :) :)~

  18. Eric Gisin says:

    Also by McKitrick at National Post recently:
    Ontario’s Power Trip: The failure of the Green Energy Act

    http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/05/16/ontarios-power-trip-the-failure-of-the-green-energy-act/

  19. Al Gored says:

    Funny. The WWF officials must have wanted to take their award back after that comment.

    And Suzuki will be screaming for everyone who doesn’t agree with him must be thrown in jail, again.

  20. Owen says:

    @Robert of Ottawa

    Great now something else for the border patrol gestapo to search and seize. Free country indeed! /sarc?

  21. In the UK we have a ‘Campaign to Repeal the Climate Act’ just getting up and running. Temporary website http://www.repealtheact.co.uk. Johnny Ball and Prof. David Bellamy are patrons.

  22. Harold Pierce Jr says:

    Robert of Ottawa says May 19, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    This is what a Conservative (not pretend Conservative) majority government cand do. Let’s hope the incadescent ban is extended even further to never.

    Americans please note, you will be able to purchase incandescents in Canada

    =============

    The “bootleggers” are going to make a killing “bringing it in from Canada”!

    At every border crossing small stands selling “heat globes” for personal space heating and Easy Bake Ovens will start to pop up and start raking in gobs of quick easy cash.

  23. clype says:

    Bob Tisdale says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    I dislike compact flourescents, so do the fixtures in this house, but I’ve spent time in Canada, and it’s a little too chilly for my blood most of the year. I guess I’ll tough it out here with the CFLs here in the U.S.

    http://barelybad.com/north_of_canada_map.htm

  24. Kev-in-Uk says:

    Canada, eh? – sounds good – where can I sign up and join the good sense brigade!!
    Any Canadians out there want to find/offer a geotechnical engineer a job? LOL

  25. ferd berple says:

    “but I’ve spent time in Canada, and it’s a little too chilly for my blood most of the year.”

    Haven’t you heard? with global warming Canada will be the new Mexico. forget Cancun. next big tourist hot spot wil be Tuktuyaaqtuuq. ice in drinks outlawed in California starting in 2015. cold beer will soon be a thing of the past.

  26. tommoriarty says:

    “climate sanity”

    It has a nice ring to it.

    Tom Moriarty

    http://climatesanity.wordpress.com/

  27. PaulH says:

    Yeah! Some sanity here in the Great White North. :-) But I have to wonder… Hasn’t the manufacture of standard incandescent bulbs been phased out? I don’t think any incandescent bulbs are made in Canada anymore.

  28. R. Shearer says:

    The Canadian dollar may be stronger but we have a lot more of ours. Anyway, will Customs allow me to pack one suitcase full of bulbs and another full of OTC meds?

  29. Paul Westhaver says:

    On November 17th 2010 the Canadian Senate killed the Climate Change Accountability Act. Today, the government simply uttered a forgone conclusion. Climate Change (Global Warming) or whatever euphemism you want to call socialism-by-way-of-green-religion, is no longer a credible pursuit amongst thinking people…. and the Canadian public agreed.. and gave Prime Minster Harper a majority 3 weeks ago. He has wasted no time in stabbing that zombie corpse religion in its brain.

    Thank you Harper. Now watch the dominoes fall.

  30. Ed MacAulay says:

    Paul H asked about Canadian incandescents.

    My bulbs are marked Made in China, a few are from USA, don’t think Canada has had indigenous bulbs for a few years. But I will keep stockpileing.

  31. Ray says:

    Skeptic says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    There is something worst than that… The MSM will put up Liz May everywhere and we will hear from her all the time now that she has a seat in the Commons. Good thing I got rid of cable.

  32. Grant says:

    Bob Tisdale says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    ‘I dislike compact flourescents, so do the fixtures in this house, but I’ve spent time in Canada, and it’s a little too chilly for my blood most of the year. I guess I’ll tough it out here with the CFLs here in the U.S.’

    Bob, you may be interested in knowing that we are now offering tourist junkets to our warm Arctic region. The best package offers complimentary iced drinks and a comfortable chaise lounge overlooking a scenic narrows in the North West Passage. From this vantage point tourists can watch the last of our polar bears dining on chilled snorkelers.

  33. Yes! After the decimation of the Liberal party and the Conservative win with majority, we all knew it was bound to happen, but not that quickly.

    Our Prime Minister Harper is the quintessential “speak softly, but carry a big stick” man (Roosevelt’s quote?). He has been deferential to your President …in a manner of someone tiptoeing around a volatie madman with a hatchet… smiling, not stirring the waters, but doing his thing quietly, such as not taking your admin’s economic advice (thank goodness, we are weathering things nicely), quietly but solidly backing Israel just as Obama was trying to put the screws on it, and totally ignoring the enviro nuttiness of the ageing hipsters in your current government.

    Hang on, Yanks and Aussies, the craziness will be over for you soon too. As for you, my Brit brothers, looks like you got a long haul ahead …but you folks are always welcome up here in Canada!

  34. Stephane says:

    It would be also good for the Quebec Prime minister to change is mind on the Carbon tax. In Quebec we have a carbon tax, its not a cap and trade but they tax many stuff for there carbon footprint to finance public transportation that cost us a fortune because there are lots of money being spend in useless ways.

  35. Bruce says:

    The old minority gov’t has put off the end of 75w / 100w incandescents.

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/decision-canada/Government+delays+turning+lights+incandescent+bulbs/4805533/story.html

    Maybe the new majority government will rescind the ban completely.

  36. vigilantfish says:

    Bob Tisdale says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    ‘I dislike compact flourescents, so do the fixtures in this house, but I’ve spent time in Canada, and it’s a little too chilly for my blood most of the year. I guess I’ll tough it out here with the CFLs here in the U.S.’
    ————-

    Just come in July or August: at times in southern Ontario our temperatures are indistinguishable from NYC or Philly, not noted for their cool outdoor comfort in the summer. If that’s not warm enough for you, Toronto has a substantial UHI away from the lake.

    In the meantime, we still have a small matter of getting rid of the ‘green’-obsessed Liberals in the Ontario provincial legislature, who are promising more of the same if re-elected – higher taxes, higher energy rates, and more expensive ‘green’ energy. Even when (not if) they are voted out this fall, the damage they have inflicted to our energy economy will linger for many years.

    I wish Ross McKitrick would consider a foray into politics. His National Post article was a masterpiece of sanity and elucidation. We need more truly science-literate politicians with good numeracy skills.

  37. B. Jackson says:

    James Sexton says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:03 pm
    Great, now I gotta go get my light bulbs from Canada……

    What’s wrong with a trip to Canada? We’ve got lots of good beer here and many good people to drink it with. :-)

  38. climatenonconformist says:

    If only we could see that kind of reason in Australia. We have a government who has signed an economic suicide pact with the dangerously naive and ideological greens who are led by a man who is certain there is a media conspiracy theory against him.

  39. Bluecollardummy says:

    Now we just need the Obama administration to approve the Keystone XL pipeline so we can start moving another 350,000 barrels per day into the U.S. . The Canadian side of the project has been complete for about a year and a half! Also, Go Canucks!

  40. Wayne Delbeke says:

    Further to Ross McKitrick’s post and his article in the Financial Post, it seems the US is providing a 1.3 billion dollar load guarantee to decimate 30 square miles of Oregon in order to produce power for Southern California. Oregon continues to get Californxxxated. Nameplate capacity – 845 megawatts, US$ 2 billion estimated cost, 1.3 billion in government guarantees and GE gets a 1.4 billion turbine contract.

    http://www.climatespectator.com.au/news/us-awards-us13bn-loan-guarantee-wind-project

  41. mike g says:

    Canada is so far gone, I’m not sure a little sanity can save her. Still a chance for US, but a slim one.

  42. WTF says:

    R. Shearer says:
    May 19, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    The Canadian dollar may be stronger but we have a lot more of ours.

    Don’t you mean China has your money!? /sarc

  43. David A. Evans. says:

    I never mourned the loss of the 100w incandescent in and of itself. I’ve never used them. I mourned the loss of the freedom to use them. This is from the EUSSR!

    DaveE.

  44. Alan Clark of Dirty Oil-berta says:

    Kev-in-UK,

    The place for you is Alberta but only if you’re willing to work for a paltry $200k – $250k per year. Enginoodles are highly sought after as are technical trades. Suggest you peruse the careers section at http://www.rigzone.com

  45. Lance says:

    i was so thankful that they got elected with a majority too, now we can also get rid of that stupid gun law that made criminals out of many by just owning a gun.

    BC, time to drop your tax now too! export Suzuki out into the pacific while your at it…

  46. Paul Coppin says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:39 pm
    Bob Tisdale says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    I dislike compact flourescents, so do the fixtures in this house, but I’ve spent time in Canada, and it’s a little too chilly for my blood most of the year. I guess I’ll tough it out here with the CFLs here in the U.S.

    ____

    Wuss. :)

    You beat me to it, but why stop here? I was gonna say “Wussypants” but who’s nit picking. I think Bob is skeered of the light bulb cops….
    As I gaze at the weird Kurdish morning haze, I realize I’m about to burn a whack of jet fuel back to Calgary to find my Conservative MP and give her a big kiss (figuratively, of course!). Dr. Fruit Fly is having a cow right now. Maurice Strong is rolling over and looking ever more like a bicycle rack. Let’s hope that Tim Ball gets a breath of fresh air; in fact, I’ll be writing Mr Harper.

  47. Iggy Slanter says:

    @James “Now I have to get my light bulbs in Canada.”

    Don’t worry, I’ll mail them to you.

    As a Canadian I am in a very happy place today.

  48. ““It’s off the table,” he told reporters Thursday after accepting an award from World Wildlife Fund International on behalf of Parks Canada.”

    Howta rub it in the WWF’s mug. OMG!

  49. Lady Life Grows says:

    I had a sober wake-up call yesterday on the importance of smashing this carbon hysteria. I had a heart attack.

    One of the main things they gave me was supplemental oxygen. As a physiologist who has done a carbon dioxide literature search in the last year, I know that carbon dioxide is the main stimulus for breathing, not just oxygen. I know that chickens and rodents thrive better with higher concentrations of carbon dioxide than ambient. And I know that preemies are helped to thrive with up to 7% CO2 in their air. Chances are, I should have had 1% to 5% CO2 in that supplemental oxygen.

    The carbon hysteria almost totally prevents the kind of research needed to determine the optimal content of CO2 in medical oxygen. If I am right, then that blindness kills millions of Americans, and Canadians, and Europeans every year.

  50. R Taylor says:

    Thank goodness for alternative media such as WUWT, because there is almost no coverage of this in the MSM. Before Canadians get uppity about “sanity”, just remember that almost all of you have to smuggle in 2,4-D and hide your use of it from neighborhood eco-informers.

  51. Steve in SC says:

    I always thought Sgt Preston was a stand up guy.
    The same for Dudley DoRight.

  52. Ric Werme says:

    Well, this is as good a place as any for an update on New Hampshire’s get out of RGGI bill.

    Unfortunately, Governor Lynch will veto the bill as introduced, and our senate was able to pass the bill, but one vote shy of a veto-proof majority.

    Sen Jeb Bradley introduced an amendment that completely replaced the original bill. It keeps us in RGGI (there is an escape clause, but it requires other New England states making up 10% of the regional load to withdraw too. Than means Massachusetts or Connecticut, and that’s not going to happen. Maine is just barely big enough, but see below.

    The amendment passed with a veto-proof majority, but the house is committed to getting us out altogether and likely will not go along with the amendment. The amendment does direct all but $1 per allowance to got back to ratepayers, the $1 goes to a conservation/improvement plan for power producers.

    We shall see.

    In other news, Delaware and Maine have rejected their get out of RGGI bills, leaving just New Jersey. The Ocean Spray bottling company in New Jersey is leaving for non-RGGI Pennsylvania, and has said costs like RGGI are reasons for leaving. That should encourage New Jersey to pass their bill.

    No other states are working on withdrawal legislation as far as I know.

    More information is at http://wermenh.com/rggiwatch/index.html

    Once the fate of NH’s bill is finalized I’ll write a full post about it.

  53. Andrew30 says:

    In Canada we have all the stuff; the iron ore, coal, wood, oil, gas, water, bauxite, uranium, food, low corporate taxes, freedom, infrastructure, year round ice free deep water harbors, universal health care, free trade agreement with the United States, etc, etc, etc; and the will to use them all to attract the best and the brightest, grow the economy, pay our debits and secure our future. That is the plan.

    What we need are more industries and more skilled people that actually do useful work. If you speak English or French and are a journeyman in a trade, have a useful degree or money for investment, you will be welcomed into Canada.

    If your or your company is being wrecked by the politics of global warming, Canada is open for business. Take a look.

    (Telephone Sanitizers need not apply)

    “As economic policy, the Kyoto Accord is a disaster. As environmental policy it is a fraud”: Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada.

    A fraud, I could not have put it better myself.

  54. That is very good news indeed but I just wish that some of this sanity would rub off on the moonbats in power in the province of BC. We have a progressive carbon tax which is going to get interesting if there is global cooling. Also, BC Hydro is planning on installing completely useless “smart” meters and jacking up power rates to pay for them. The same company continues to install bird blenders in the north of the province. So, while there may be some rare good climate news from Ottawa, here on the left coast of Canada it’s enviro-lunacy as usual.

  55. Lady Life Grows says: “I had a sober wake-up call yesterday on the importance of smashing this carbon hysteria. I had a heart attack.” (May 19, 2011 at 6:09 pm )

    So sorry to ear that, and very glad that you’re at least well enough complain about your medical oxygen cocktail :)

    Be well; wishing you many years of good health, LLG!

  56. John F. Hultquist says:

    to Ross McKitrick, who offers to send a real estate guide,

    Okay, and would you also include regulations regarding trapping.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/12/potential-agricultural-impact-of-the-eddy-minimum/

    It therefore follows that Canadian agriculture will be back to trapping beavers by the end of this decade, as it was in the 17th century.
    David Archibald

  57. Jackbill says:

    Makes me proud to be a Canadian! – and I was born a Kiwi

  58. Wayne Delbeke says:

    John F. Hultquist says:
    May 19, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Okay, and would you also include regulations regarding trapping.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/12/potential-agricultural-impact-of-the-eddy-minimum/

    “It therefore follows that Canadian agriculture will be back to trapping beavers by the end of this decade, as it was in the 17th century.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    And that had to be about the dumbest article I have read in a long time. The wheat growing areas were wrongly or poorly delineated (see comments); the information was erroneous (another MODEL); actual agricultural production from Agriculture Canada shows a steady increase in Yield; and as for the beavers that were once claimed to be going extinct, we are in a constant fight with their recovered numbers as they are damn good dam builders and they flood crop land with regularity, chomp up park trees and shrubbery., plug up culverts and flood highways … they are by no means on the extinction list.

    Come on up to the GWN (Great White North) and take all the beaver tail you want. Almost every county in Alberta has a “pest control program” to manage the land flooding little flat tailed rats. I have had to manage beavers on my farm land forever.

    Check out this site for management of these cute little pests(US regs but same here in Alberta): http://dnr.wi.gov/waterways/factsheets/beaverdamage.pdf

  59. nc says:

    To those critics of Suzuki don’t forget Andrew Weaver, he has the ear of the BC government.

  60. R. de Haan says:

    I love beavers

  61. Andrew30 says:

    This was expected.

    In Canada we have all the stuff; the iron ore, coal, wood, oil, gas, water, bauxite, nickel, uranium, food, low corporate taxes, freedom, infrastructure, year round ice free harbors, universal health care, etc, etc, etc; and the will to use them all to attract the best and the brightest, grow the economy, pay our debits and secure our future. That is the plan.

    What we need are more industries and more skilled people that actually do useful work. If you speak English or French and are a journeyman in a trade, have a useful degree or money for investment, you will be welcomed into Canada.

    If your or your company is being wrecked by the politics of ‘Global Warming’, Canada is open for business. Take a look.

    (Climate Alarmists and Telephone Sanitizers need not apply)

    “As economic policy, the Kyoto Accord is a disaster. As environmental policy it is a fraud”: Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada.

    “A fraud”, I could not have said it better myself.

  62. Al Gored says:

    Grant says:
    May 19, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    “polar bears dining on chilled snorkelers.”

    LOL.

  63. David Davidovics says:

    I can’t believe I missed this!!!! Oh well, the one time I didn’t watch the news (did CTV cover this??? – stopped watching CBC a long time ago..lol)

    Just for a little more detail on the state of political the political climate in canada, you should also take a look at the canadian senate.

    For years it was stacked with stone walling liberal senators, but after 5 years of Conservative minority government, there is almost a tie (Senators in canada are appointed by the PM instead of being elected – harper wants to change that but some provinces could loose their unfair advantage in terms of number of seats so he has so far failed to address this). Needless to say, he won’t be appointing more liberals to the senate during his majority term in office so once both upper and lower chambers are stacked with tories there is little the socialist on the opposition benches can do to stop him except shriek and piss themselves (in other words, nothing new there)

    It gets better. The supreme court is also up for a few replacements and more can be expected in the future. Not likely to have liberal activist judges there either.

    There’s more. In canada, political parties get money for every vote cast in their favour. This means that even nut cases like the green part leader get money and a soap box to cry from. However harper wants to axe this but couldn’t until now. The Liberals, NDP and Bloc (separatist party which is also now decimated!!!!) all relied on this funding far more than the conservatives – who could easily break even on private and membership donations alone.

    And since harper is only in his mid 50s, he might be around for a very long time. Its been a interesting to see how he rebuilt the right wing movement almost from scratch over the last decade.

    I’m not holding my breath on the carbon tax here in bc getting axed but I can still dream.

    On days like this I can almost feel pride in my country again. Almost – we still have a long way to go.

  64. Alexander K says:

    ‘Lady Life Grows’, I wish you well and a speedy journey back to good health.
    Congratulations to Canadian voters – it’s heartening to see an outbreak of good sense.

  65. Bluecollardummy says:

    I’m no lover of the republicans. but if they can produce an actual candidate maybe we will see some adult discussion on energy distribution in North America. Us goofy Canadians are perched atop endless fossil fuels that we really should expose to the Chinese market.

  66. Pete H says:

    Richard says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:14 pm
    “Julia Gillard is singing the praises of UK for going ahead with the Carbon Tax”

    Truth be known Richard, Julia is singing to the wrong people! It is well know that Chris Huhne, the minister, is a busted flush in his own department and generally ignored by the civil servants under him and now the UK papers and police are after him for “allegedly” having his ex wife take the rap for a speeding offence he committed.

    Huhne had a press thing the other day but it would appear any action the UK government takes is dependent on the rest of Europe taking action. Greece, Spain, Portugal etc are, in reality, bankrupt with other countries shivering under the cloud of debt they have built up. Other Euro countries are pulling back on the sly.

    The proposed “Green Bank” will start up with insufficient capitalisation and no borrowing capacity, due to the Treasury having some sensible civil servants whose long term employment relies on the country staying on its feet despite the best efforts of idiot politicians.

    All in all, the financial cracks are getting wider for the Greens and I wish you well in your efforts to crush lying Gillard, who I believe, promised no carbon tax before she took over! Funny world we live in, where, whatever country you come from, you can rely on politicians to lie out of their back teeth!

  67. John Marshall says:

    Well done Canada, way to go!!!

  68. Adam Soereg says:

    Nice to see that many countries in the world has just rediscovered the importance of price elasticity. Raising energy prices through a cap-and-trade scheme or introducing a carbon tax will not necessarily decrease energy consumption, because energy demand is almost insensitive to current prices. If the goverment decides to impose direct or indirect taxes on energy consumption, macroeconomic price level will increase and real incomes will begin to fall. As a result, living standards will worsen as household consumption decreases, but the fall in consumption does not necessarily cause any change in overall energy usage or CO2 emissions. AGW theory-based government intervention has considerable costs with 100% certainty, while the benefits are speculative at least. I would call these ideas ‘money for nothing’.

    Thank God, the situation is improving even in my home country. Our previous government wanted to pass a global warming law with a 40 percent emissions cut until 2020 (sic!). That goal would have been unreachable without destroying the economy. In contrast, the climate issue was never mentioned by the conservatives who are in power nowadays. Hungarian AGW proponents (including our national met. service) are parroting the well-known IPCC claims and they are scaring the scientifically illiterate citizens with desertification in the Carpathian Basin. This statement (like many others) is completely based on GCM output and not supported by observational data, annual precipitation in Hungary has increased significantly in the last 40 years, while a considerable decrease occured between 1930 and 1970.

  69. Chris Edwards says:

    OY Paul, as a refugee from socialist england Im pleased that they do it right here!!

  70. Alex the skeptic says:

    Eyes Wide Open says:
    May 19, 2011 at 2:40 pm
    “but how long will this government last?”
    It’s a freshly minted majority – good for at lest four years. The usual opposition, the Liberals, were decimated in the election and are in total disarray. If the Conseratives govern well and sustain a healthy economy, they’re a slam dunk for another four after that at least!
    ++++++++++++++++
    Rightly so, and if the current opposition again proposes some version of an EPA and other stupidies, then it will surely keep on occupying the opposition seats.
    And: in a few yers time CAGW would be dead on a global basis anyway, so why bother?

  71. Beth Cooper says:

    Lady Life Grows, get well soon and keep posting :-)

  72. Mike from Canmore says:

    Ray said

    “Then it would be time for British-Columbia to dump this stupid carbon tax too”

    What did we wake up to on the front page of the paper?

    “Light bulb Ban Will Stay in BC.”

    I don’t think that carbon tax is going anytime soon. They will continue to pilfer our property taxes, intended for education, to go into Encana’s coffers.

    We have one wacked out province. Everyday, I try to convince my wife to move. The mountains are gorgeous, but not worth. Just how much money do the enviro profiteers give to political parties?

  73. Jeremy says:

    This is actually quite upsetting for me. Canada is showing more sanity than California on light bulbs.

  74. amicus curiae says:

    Canada leading the world in the Sanity dept.
    well done!
    Aus as mentioned has JuLiar and bob brownnose to contend with but we’re hoping, they eventually wake up before the riots happen..and if this crap keeps happening here there will be riots. people already cant run heaters or have even a low standard Normal life, carbon Tax will kill our economy.

  75. G. Karst says:

    Each Canadian winter is a survival test for it’s people. To a large part, this survival depends on adequate energy supplies. These facts tend to make Canadians very level headed and practical.

    Like all populations, however, they also have a small proportion of idealists, who manage to rise to attention and some measure of power and influence. However, the harshness and reality demanded by winter, has a sobering effect on the population. This is why David Suzuki exists but is not as influential, as he would like.

    The reality in Canada is one of cold. Her crops exist marginally and are continuously threatened by cold. Any cooling will immediately threaten it’s continued viability.

    For Canada… Any Global warming is a pleasant walk in the park. GK

  76. TomRude says:

    About time!
    Now let’s get rid of McGuinty and drop the BC Carbon Tx: enough of fattening Hoggan’s wallet with BC Hydro Power Smart campaign…

  77. BernardP says:

    Conservatives don’t believe in AGW, but they couldn’t say it outright while they were a minority government. They had to do the green song and dance. Now they they are certain to be in power for up to 5 years, they can try to turn public opinion around.

    First order of business should be to provide a better balance of opinions about climate change on the Environment Canada web site. Just one example:

    http://www.ec.gc.ca/scitech/2A953C90-CC12-42B2-BD0A-B51FECC2AEC3/FAQ_e.pdf

  78. Phil says:

    do all of you think that we have unlimited supply of oil?

  79. P. Solar says:

    Brits will soon be flying to Canada to buy light bulbs like they go to Belgium to buy tobacco.

  80. Andrew30 says:

    Phil says: May 20, 2011 at 8:24 am
    “do all of you think that we have unlimited supply of oil?”

    No probably not, but in 3 or 4 hundred years we can likely come up with something better than 16th century windmill technology. We have Lots of time, Lots of Oil, Lots of Gas, Lots of Coal, Lots of Methane Hydrates, Lots of Uranium and Lots of un-tapped Hydro potential. In Canada we have lots of everything, it’s a really big place.
    We have lots and lots of time, centuries.

    Phil, chill out, take it easy, we have lots of time.

    Phil, do you think we have an unlimited supply of mercury for light bulbs?

  81. Fred Jensen says:

    There hasn’t been much mention of the fact that this was announced at the presentation of one of the WWF’s highest honours – the “Gift to the Earth Award” for the recent growth of Canada’s national parks.

    “Before Harper’s arrival in power, the protected natural areas set aside by the Canadian government counted for about 277,000 sq.-km of land and water. The Conservatives have since taken steps to add an extra 134,000 sq.-km. This represents an unprecedented increase of 48%.”

    http://www.ottawasun.com/2011/05/18/harper-greener-than-youd-think

    I have to wonder who David Suzuki wants to send to jail now. ;)

  82. Andy in Alberta says:

    Tremendous news. I guess Dr Suzuki will have to return to ‘huddling with his wife in fear of climate change’ in his sprawling 10000+ sq ft digs on the Isle.

    Kev in UK,

    Come to Alberta. Anyone with a vocation ending in ‘neer could have a job probably tomorrow. The oil & gas industry (particularly the conventional oil & shale gas drilling end) is pretty much on the cusp of the next boom cycle. There is a tremendous shortage of skilled people across the board.

  83. M White says:

    Not in Britain – “Construction slump and carbon costs blamed for 1,500 steel job losses”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/may/20/tata-steel-job-losses-yorkshire-teesside

    “EU carbon legislation threatens to impose huge additional costs on the steel industry. Besides, there remains a great deal of uncertainty about the level of further unilateral carbon cost rises that the UK government is planning,” he added.”

  84. Luther Bl. says:

    Andrew30 says:
    May 20, 2011 at 8:50 am

    Phil says: May 20, 2011 at 8:24 am
    “do all of you think that we have unlimited supply of oil?”

    No probably not, but in 3 or 4 hundred years we can likely come up with something better than 16th century windmill technology.
    ————–

    And maybe a lot sooner if we solve the supposed over-population problem with economic development, which will in turn free a lot of brains in Africa, India, etc to work on technology.

  85. 2kevin says:

    As a Canadian I am happy about that.

    But, now we can also expect all sorts of ridiculous ‘tough on crime’ laws and massive expenditures on new prisons for a non-existent crime wave. All from the man who changed the name of the ‘Government of Canada’ to the ‘Harper Government,’ replaced all pictures of former Prime Ministers in the entrance to Parliament with his own, only allows reporters to ask pre-approved questions at official press conferences, was found for the first time in Canadian history to be in contempt of Parliament, colluded with the Queens representative to overthrow Parliamentary procedure, broke election spending laws, fired the President of the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission for telling the truth rather than doing as told… and on and on and on….

    I guess you have to take the good with the bad in politics.

  86. TrueNorthist says:

    David Davidovics says:
    May 20, 2011 at 12:37 am

    I see you know how to use the shift key when typing proper names etc, but not when typing Canada? Are you trying to be insulting?

  87. Andy in Alberta says:

    …..for the Lib/Dipper….need any cheese with that whine of yours?…. you left out the tried and true ‘the election system is f’ed” ….this is a blog debunking AGW remember? or maybe you confused it with the comments section at cbc.ca?

  88. Brian H says:

    Steve in SC says:
    May 19, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    I always thought Sgt Preston was a stand up guy.
    The same for Dudley DoRight.

    Next, check out The Mackenzie Brothers.

    While watching, occasionally remember that both performers are actually PhDs! Tough to do …

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