Zero Carbon living…didn’t quite work out. Didn’t they do some calculations on this first? Sheesh.
Looks like some sort of Noah’s Ark sort of design. I suppose that was the idea.
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All is not lost. They can still use this facility in warmer weather – in the school’s summer holidays for example.
The headteacher, Jill Hughes defended the project and said ‘We’re delighted to have the Living Ark – its a tremendous resource both for the school and the local community.
Climate change requires Faith.
I think that as it is useless for school children, it should be provided as a free venue for green eco warriors to hold their meetings.
It may then serve a purpose
‘The Living Ark’ sounds pretty off-puttingly religious as well. You can’t sail into the future when the kids are too cold to learn.
Bloody imbeciles have done the same to classrooms in Australia but for cooling in summer. The classrooms were so hot the children had to go home, after lying on the floor with wet towels over them failed too.
Why does Government listen to these fatheads? I don’t know about anyone else but I am tired of being a living experiment for these idiots.
Why are we not surprised..?
Furthermore, how long before the full ire of the UK population descends on wind farm promoters, when everyone realises that, without tax breaks, subsidies and Renewable Obligation Certificates, all funded by us, these mostrosities are useless..?
What can I say?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Hilarious.
Time to let the engineers back to design things that actually work.
Bunch of dipsticks.
Well, on the other hand, I quite like their architecture (at least in this pic, I’d like to see a more general view and other angles. But I love the wood 🙂 ).
Maybe they would consider to donate it? I would love to find the place to add it as a extension to my home. It will get heated like everything else…oh, and the floor will be replaced: it looks dirty.
A great big pot-bellied stove burning best Welsh anthracite would soon have that greenhouse toasty warm.
Hahahahahahaha.
Thanks Anthony, that made my day.
Classic, thanks for sharing.
They went active vice passive solar for heating?
I hope all that wood is recycled, but it sure doesn’t look like it !!
Einstein : “There are 2 things that I think may be infinite – the universe and human stupidity. But I’m not sure about the universe.”
I am usually the first to laugh at these stories…but the Daily Mail is not always completely to be trusted.
I suspect this story in the local newspaper is nearer the truth.
http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/news/muswell_hill_school_eco_classroom_underused_as_not_heated_claim_1_809130
What I also suspect… is that given the usual inefficiency in our schoolbuilding programs, the price of £25,000 is probably about the same as a school would pay for an “ordinary” classroom, if not less.
Any other Brits out there got any figures?
It is not “environmentalism” that is the problem, you know. The problem is that it has been hi-jacked and subverted.
The Man-Made CO2-driven global warming boondoggle is damaging genuine environmentalism, conservation, anti-real-pollution-ism…whatever you wish to call it… and it is about time people involved in these perfectly worthy, nay, essential aspirations wised up and realised what has been happening.
Priceless. Anthony, thank you for continuing to bring these absurdities to the public’s attention.
By the way, I visited the Daily Mail’s blog on this story and left the following comment:
“The last two paragraphs tell you a lot about how the watermelons use language to defend the indefensible.
Headteacher Jill Hughes is “delighted to have the Living Ark – its (sic) a tremendous resource both for the school and the local community and is an important part of the Muswell Hill low carbon zone initiative.”
Jill – love – let me explain about the ‘tremendous resource’ and I’ll say it v – e – r – y s – l – o – w – l – y so that you can assimiliate it into your headteacher brain. It doesn’t work. OK – got it?
By the way, your pupils should know that the UK and the rest of the world is in for at least 30 years of lower temperatures. But I don’t suppose the ‘Muswell Hill low carbon zone initiative’ (puhleeease) would want to know about that.”
I commend the idea to the House.
Do some calculations?! Are you joking, Anthony? This is the UK, where Zero Carbon is the mantra trotted out by all levels of government, centrally and locally. We are world leaders in idealism and spin. Realism and objectivity are for wimps!!
the article doesnt really give enough detail. I’d like to know the calculations used in the design. I mean, if they ‘assume’ a certain amount of sunlight each day – they are barking up the wrong tree! The thermal mass of such a building must be very low and therefore on a cold day would have no retained heat from a warmer day. Plus, did they allow for pupil ‘heating’ – presumably it is a well insulated room, so in say 30 mins, would the room warm up from the body heat of the occupants? in which case, a small fan heater would take the initial chill off at the start of the day?
all seems a bit bizarre.
it is a reasonably sound green idea, but obviously badly excecuted. We should not knock such ideas as failures per se though as hopefully some lessons (pun intended) have been learnt!
It would have made a lot more sense to build the Living Ark underground. The temperature excursions of the surrounding soil would be far smaller and much easier to plan for.
They might have to call it something other than Ark, perhaps the Learning Underground would have a nice connection to the London Underground.
Then they could have the students maintain a garden above, amongst the solar panels.
But the calculations were correct! They got exactly the level of grant that the calculations predicted. 100% correct!
Is that the ‘Ark Classroom’, or the ‘Arctic Classroom’ ??
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My particle physicist pal did the same at his home, and made the desperate error of tearing out the old heating system at the same time. Eventually, his wife got fed up of wearing winter coats indoors, and left him.
There is no accounting for intelligent folks who nevertheless do incredibly stupid things in the name of their religion. I am fed up with these Green pipe-dreams, so it is about time that some of them came crashing down to earth.
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The next one I am aiming to slay is the new hydrogen busses in London. L.T. is insisting that these new busses are more efficient than the old diesel ones, but this defies the laws of physics (as Scotty would say). I am looking for actual consumption figures for these busses**, if anyone can help, so that I can bring this Green myth crashing to earth too.
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** Their hydrogen generator is located in London and uses natural gas as a fuel, via the reforming process. The products of this reaction are hydrogen and carbon dioxide. (ouch!!) And there is no carbon capture facility.
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Our Met Office weather man on the local news stated that the UK received on average of ONE Hr of sunshine per DAY throughout February so far!
Also the theretical insolation for London (according to NASA tables) is 2.66 Kw/m^2/day averaged throughout the year. Who knows what it actually was this February?
Why oh why won’t our clueless government stop their headlong lemming’s rush off the precipce of sustainable power generation and think for a little while. Of course, they cannot, they are all polititians, they have had their brains removed about the time they got their degrees in media studies and English literature and political studies. The majority have never held down a real job. They gravitate from Uni to internship in an MP’s office, then stand for election when their party loyalty has been determined.
/rant off.
The result of reading this post and the previous one about the Nature modelling circle jerk!
regards
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£25,000 ? Given the cost of building in the UK and the inefficiency of local authorities, especially as in this case it appears to be a flagship political initiative, I think you could almost stick another nought on the end. Good job we are up to our necks in money in this country and can afford it. (sarc)
Welllllll if it is too cold to use then it isn’t “eco-friendly”… hmmmm????? It is just a waste of time, money and other resources that would have been best expended elsewhere.
Was an engineer involved? Was an Architect involved? Maybe it’s time to re-examine their licensing. Just a thought…
My daddy would have said this Living Ark “is like trying to put overdrive on a jackass,
it’s a good idea but, it just doesn’t work.”
When will these people do, say or spend money on something that surprises me?
I find it so hard to believe they are this stupid.
If the CAGW folks would please stop we could get things moving in the right direction.
LOL. My first reaction was to wonder how hot it will be in the summer if we see a bit of sun?!