Climategate now in a Law and Order episode

Bizarre plot twists aren’t limited to recent climate science.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/law-and-order.jpg

I’m sitting in my study and Law and Order came on on NBC 10PM PDT. They have a fictional crime episode regarding a climate scientist where stolen emails are mentioned in the first ten minutes, “climate deniers” are named, and it looks like they are interviewing a fictional GISS scientist in NYC.

Cap and Trade shenanigans with the word “scam” are mentioned too.

Here’s a preview video from NBC and a new link to the whole episode:

http://www.nbc.com/Law_and_Order/video/preview-brazil/1211024/

The preview doesn’t show the Climategate portion, apparently it starts out with a skeptic being poisoned at a conference breakfast.

It looks like the plot now turns toward some sort of custody battle. One of the fictional scientists looks like he was modeled after Gavin or maybe Romm.

Here’s a line:

“We’re scientists, we deal with disagreements with emotional detachment and reason”.

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UPDATE: Commenter “Ando” provides this link to the whole episode, which follows after a short into commercial: http://www.wisevid.com/gate-way?v=3Abf99A85wzc

You may have to click on the “let me watch” button since it has a rating.

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75 Responses to Climategate now in a Law and Order episode

  1. juanslayton says:

    Where’s Fred Thompson when you need him?

  2. Mike McMillan says:

    Didn’t look like it had much to do with global warming.
    Anyway, what’s an intelligent person doing watching NBC?

    REPLY: Heh, accidental really. It was on after I gave up on channel surfing after “The Big Bang Theory” which I never miss. -A

  3. Patrick Davis says:

    Well this is proof that AGW is real? It’s in colour *AND* on TV….gotta be true!

  4. Bulldust says:

    My wife’s favourite cop show and my favorite blog topic! Sweetness!

  5. Peter of Sydney says:

    Talking about the Cap and Trade shenanigans, I’m pretty certain it’s not all over yet. It still has the makings of bringing the whole financial system to its knees more so than any other economic crisis we’ve had, including the great depression. In some ways it would be good – to teach everyone a lesson. Of course, it will hurt but then that’s life. Perhaps then we can finally go onto more useful enterprises, after we have purged all the crap, and in some cases corrupt politicians.

  6. George Turner says:

    I’ve yet to watch “Big Band Theory”. I hear it’s pretty darn good.

  7. RhudsonL says:

    Law & Order: SUV?

  8. Harry the Hacker says:

    If you start with Big Bang – best go back to the beginning with series 1 or you’ll have missed *too* much :-)

  9. Dave N says:

    “We’re scientists, we deal with disagreements with emotional detachment and reason”.

    So Law & Order is some kind of comedy, then?

  10. Leon Brozyna says:

    Ahh – excellent taste – “The Big Bang Theory”. A nice break to web surfing. I normally keep it on CBS – CSI/NCIS/Mentalist, though I’ve been known to sneak over to Fox for Bones, but a bit of humor’s a good break. Then there’s always the mute button if the web surfing gets more interesting than the boob tube, which is usually the case.

  11. Bulldust says:

    I wonder how long before someone witty reading this blog suggests some possible script excerpts… /hint

  12. John J. says:

    “Castle” is way better than “Law and Order”; you shoulda kept surfing.

  13. CodeTech says:

    RhudsonL (22:59:15) :

    Law & Order: SUV?

    I was thinking:

    Law & Order: CRU

  14. PaulS says:

    REPLY: Heh, accidental really. It was on after I gave up on channel surfing after “The Big Bang Theory” which I never miss. -A

    Ah, Kaley Cuoco… And the comedys pretty good too!

  15. John Whitman says:

    Anthony,

    NBC recognizing Climategate, even in a fiction piece? Surprising.

    You have shown us a wonderfully well developed sense of delightful humor in the past.Is this a premature April Fool thingy? : )

    John

  16. pat says:

    These people give morons a bad reputation. Believe me. The Warmists will be brilliant. The skeptic will be a fool. Anyone want some beachfront in Canada?

  17. Amino Acids in Meteorites says:

    “The Big Bang Theory” which I never miss. -A

    You probably already know, but the lead character is based on Lubos Motl.

  18. Grumbler says:

    dum-dum

  19. Kate says:

    I gave up watching L&O a while ago. When I first saw it I thought it was the best show I’d ever seen. it seemed grounded in the reality of it’s subject, unlike the cross-sectional shows that tell too many stories at once and do justice to none of them. But I’ve grew tired of the rigid format of the show. The original L&O is still a good show, but I got tired of it’s rigid format where you can guess what will happen next based on the minute hand of the clock. At the top of the hour, some people are having a conversation when they suddenly find a body. Then we jump to the crime scene investigation where the detectives get the low-down and the lead detective, at about 5 after makes a wisecrack. Then comes the opening credits. The detectives try to find out as much as they can over the next ten minutes but don’t have any real leads. The lieutenant tells them they’re full of it and sends them to check out some particular thing with uncovers an apparent motive for the murder. This comes at about 15 after. They grill the guy at the station house and maybe put him through a lineup with a defense attorney yapping at their heals. Then they find out the guy didn’t do it and it turns out this story is about something else entirely. They find out what it is, and at 25 after they tell it to the assistant DA who tells them they are full of it. But they convince her that they aren’t full of it and she tells them to arrest the guy. Then comes everybody’s favorite scene at half past, the “How dare you arrest me! Can’t you see I’m doing something important?” scene. Then we come to everybody’s other favorite scene, the arraignment where the other defense attorney tells the judge the prosecution’s full of it and the judge tells the defense attorney that he’s full of it. Then, at 25 of, the district attorney tells the executive district attorney and the assistant district attorney that they’re full of it. The defense attorney concurs, and presents the executive assistant DA with a motion to suppress whatever evidence they have for some ridiculous reason except that the judge thinks it’s a wonderful reason, and at 15 of we’re back where we started. Now the executive assistant and the assistant DA hatch a plan to bend the rules to get the guy convicted anyway. The only suspense is whether it works. And if it doesn’t, there’s usually some extralegal retribution at the end. It’s been a great show and it may go on forever but it is possible to get a little tired of it.

  20. P Gosselin says:

    The parent company of NBC is GE, producer of wind turbines and power management systems.
    GE is one of the biggest profiteers of the climate change scare.

  21. JohnH says:

    From Wiki on Lubos Motl.

    He also frequently criticizes what he considers to be alarmism about global warming, and some of the statistical models used by some climate researchers on grounds such as incorrect prior probability distributions.

    Get BBT every week in UK but 2 series old, have to download it to get the current series, loved the Drunk Sheldon showing his Uranus.

  22. JohnH says:

    And here is an example of Lubos Motl blog, plenty of food for thought. A point by point decimation of John Cooks 102 points supporting AGW.

    http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/03/john-cook-skeptical-science.html#more

  23. Mark Hind says:

    Hi folks,
    Slightly off topic but I have just read that in the UK the PCC (press complaints commision) has just censured a blog by Rod Liddle(Radio 4, Today editor) for claiming the overwhelming majority of violent crime in London is carried out by young Afro Carribean men. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100330/tuk-first-blog-faces-censure-by-pcc-6323e80.html
    Could the same thing be applied to climate change blogs that continue to claim that AGW is supported by an overwhelming majority of scientists.

  24. Jack Simmons says:

    Peter of Sydney (22:56:10) :

    Talking about the Cap and Trade shenanigans, I’m pretty certain it’s not all over yet. It still has the makings of bringing the whole financial system to its knees more so than any other economic crisis we’ve had, including the great depression. In some ways it would be good – to teach everyone a lesson. Of course, it will hurt but then that’s life. Perhaps then we can finally go onto more useful enterprises, after we have purged all the crap, and in some cases corrupt politicians.

    Sorry Peter; but the derivatives already created and launched over the last decade have destroyed the financial system. The system is just sort of running on the momentum of trust and confidence built up by previous generations’ proper management of the dollar.

    Imagine an elk after it has taken a shot in the chest, shattering its aorta. It’s already dead, it just doesn’t know it yet. On adrenaline alone it can run for over a mile when events finally catch up with it.

    Cap and trade would be a derivatives trader’s dream. Something that doesn’t even exist can have a value assigned to it and all that paper can be traded with no risk whatsoever of the final counter party having to deliver something tangible. It’s value is determined by some arbitrary numbers assigned to it by a programmer/user/computer.

    A lot like climate models.

    I better quit because this is starting to depress me…

  25. Scott B. says:

    Peter of Sydney (22:56:10) : In some ways it would be good – to teach everyone a lesson.

    I don’t think people as a whole learn lessons. Maybe one generation might learn a lesson. And they could probably scare their kids enough for the lesson to stick for them, too. But after that, all that first generation’s lessons will be forgotten, and the next generation will have to learn them for themselves all over again.

  26. Daniel H says:

    Isn’t Captain Kirk in Law and Order? I’ve always been a Picard fan myself.

  27. Smokey says:

    Jack Simmons (02:47:15),

    For some reason your comment reminded me of this quote:

    The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can’t get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods.
    ~H.L.Mencken

  28. Tim Groves says:

    James Lovelock warms to climate skeptics, calls fudging data a sin against science.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/29/james-lovelock

  29. Corey says:

    I watched that episode last night, too. When they were reading the scientists emails it actually had “Yamal” in it, and “hide the decline”, where they then mentioned the data manipulation.

  30. wws says:

    Shatner was in “Boston Legal”, a superior show that managed to retain it’s sense of humor in spite of the serious topics covered. (my favorite scene was when Shatner flipped open his cell phone and looked at it like it was his old communicator)

    The sad thing about Law and Order is that it *could* have been such a good show, and yet the writers are stuck in a kind of adolescent, politically correct harsh black and white world. The cops are never wrong, authority is never wrong – that’s not real life at all, that’s a fantasy, and because of this every episode is stiff, preachy, and wooden.

    Imagine what this show could have been if someone like a Dashell Hammett or Dalton Trumbo had written it. But I can’t think of a single writer of that quality working in television today.

  31. Joe says:

    Watched it and it was a good laugh especially the line…

    Looking into the e-mail “There is a cooling anamoly data that we have to get rid of.”
    Cop goes “Looks like they’re cooking books by taking out the cooling data numbers.”

    They followed who makes money from carbon credits and who loses when some statement can bring down the value by a scientist.

    Good first 15 minutes.

  32. Don B says:

    Here is a possibility for another episode: Wind turbines cause more CO2 emissions, because of the backup required by conventional electricity generation. It is either comedy or tragedy.

    From Pielke Sr’s blog:

    http://www.clepair.net/windefficiency.html

    http://www.clepair.net/windsecret.html

  33. pecqror says:

    Global warming activist James Schneider and a journalist were found frozen to death only 90 miles from their destination, South Pole Station, seen here during the warm season.
    http://www.ecoenquirer.com/south-pole-tragedy.htm

    REPLY: This is a HOAX ignore it – Anthony

  34. Viewless says:

    Make yourself 21.7 % smarter.

    Kill your TV.

  35. John Silver says:

    The big bang theory really is a comedy, written by a belgian catholic priest.

  36. Wade says:

    Since NBC Universal is owned by GE, expect the AGW promoters to be portrayed as positive, peace-loving, defenders of life from the evil corporations and expect the AGW disbelievers to be portrayed as negative, money-loving, evil elitists of Big Oil.

  37. R. de Haan says:

    G8, err, G7 ban ice ages and order a global economic collapse
    http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/07/g8-err-g7-ban-ice-ages-and-order-global.html

  38. Stephan says:

    Massively bad news for warmistas
    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php
    Its getting worse by the day hahahaha.

  39. Henry chance says:

    “We’re scientists, we deal with disagreements with emotional detachment and reason”

    Romm, Hansen, Jones and the rest of the carbon cabel are pure emotion and zero ambivalent science.
    Gaven Schmidt didn’t even slow down blogging to resond to FOIA requests.

  40. Gary says:

    I was watching a Marx Bros. marathon so I missed L&O. In Horsefeathers Groucho sings the skeptics themesong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtMV44yoXZ0
    ;-)

  41. Eric (skeptic) says:

    Thanks for posting this thread. Can someone please summarize the rest of the plot? I only saw about 10 minutes before the cable in the hotel went on the fritz.

  42. Daniel H says:

    @wws

    Thanks for the correction. It’s good to know that Shatner was in a higher quality legal drama than Law and Order. Here’s a trivia question for you: Name the actor from the Star Trek universe who had a major starring role in the legal drama “L.A. Law”.

  43. Van Grungy says:

    Did you notice that Bernard and Lupo called Carbon pollution?

    Otherwise some good laughs were had

    And to those complaining. Its called a procedural drama. That’s their shtick. And they are sticking with it.

  44. Bill Marsh says:

    I watched it. I was disappointed that they referred to skeptics repeatedly as ‘deniers’, downplayed the significance of the ‘stolen’ emails impact on the ‘science’, and treated ‘global warming’ as established ‘fact’. They literally stole the entire sequence from the actual happening and played back the AGW proponents ‘talking points’ about the ‘stolen’ emails significance.

    That lasted about 10 minutes, then they were off to the real twist to the story. Could have done without the whole ‘Global Warming opening’.

  45. Bill Tuttle says:

    Bizarre plot twists aren’t limited to recent climate science.

    I’m waiting for “The CRUTape Letters” to come out on DVD…

  46. Jeremy says:

    Better Off Ted is, IMO, much better than Big Bang Theory.

  47. Bob L says:

    I watched the episode last night, and I think it was a very reasonable (tho8ugh tangential) treatement of AGW. At one point, the Jones-like scientist defends his actions, saying that he just changed a couple of data points that don’t matter because warming is real. Det. Barnard’s reply is along the lines of: “If it’s real, then why did you need to change the data?”

    As to the line: “We’re scientists, we deal with disagreements with emotional detachment and reason”, the main underlying theme of the episode is that they don’t. Considering that entertinment tv has long treated AGW as gospel, this is really a huge step forward for this medium…

  48. Robert E. Phelan says:

    wws (04:08:37) :
    the writers are stuck in a kind of adolescent, politically correct harsh black and white world. The cops are never wrong, authority is never wrong

    I agree with wws, that L&O iniverse has been great propaganda for the Progressivist/Statist/Authoritarians – I’ve had students argue that they decided to major in Forensic Science because they liked the certainty of it all. My prediction is that in about ten or fifteen years time we will have learned that innocent people have been convicted and executed based on irrefutable DNA evidence.

  49. Elizabeth (Canada) says:

    I’m guessing the attempted homicide had nothing to do with the fact that he was a skeptic. The guy probably had an affair and his wife tried to kill him.

    Could be their choice of topic was intended to make a point about the public displays of vitriol and animus which have been spawned from these “climate wars.” The cops will all be debating climategate with each other when they are not out chasing criminals or testifying in court.

    It is interesting they chose to poison the skeptic. I guess we’ll have to tune in to find out what the peripheral message is….

  50. Mike Smith says:

    Climategate + Alana De La Garza = “Must See TV”

  51. Henry chance says:

    Question
    If The Met Office lost the data, how could I be a denier when there is no data to deny?
    It will take 3 years to reconstruct the data? A reasonable person should be very suspicious of that. It takes a long time to tamper and manipulate data and hide the cheating. If they can restore it somehow, it would not take but a few weeks at the most.
    When a car is stolen, it may go to a chop shop and the parts are sold.

    Where is the chop shop for their records?

  52. Uh Oh……

    I saw the sequel…. The Evil Denier Blog Writer did it!!!

    Run Anothony, Run!!!!!

  53. D. King says:

    P Gosselin (01:14:35) :

    The parent company of NBC is GE, producer of wind turbines and power management systems.
    GE is one of the biggest profiteers of the climate change scare.

    Now they’re using Ronald Regan to claw back credibility.
    http://www.ge.com/reagan/video.html

  54. wxmidwest says:

    “Law & Order” –> NBC –> GE –> Cap N Trade/Environmental Agenda –> Big Government Chee$e

  55. DirkH says:

    “Stephan (06:34:30) :

    Massively bad news for warmistas
    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php
    Its getting worse by the day hahahaha.”

    Could explain why Lovelock suddenly finds the skeptics position so appealing and the climate science so weak. He’s smarter than we think. He knows when to switch sides. Schneider and Hansen will be next.

  56. geo says:

    “Ripped from the headlines!”

  57. Fred says:

    The excellent series “Damages” also has an AGW/Wind energy sub plot this year going on this year with a “reformed” tycoon finding his green soul, making a movie, getting Hollywood support.

  58. Mike D. says:

    Kate (01:11:13) is so right! All the cop shows are completely predictable nowadays. And the dialog seems to be written by halfwits dragged in from afternoon soap operas.

    And what’s with the supermodels who can’t find a better job than policewoman? It’s preposterous. Also preposterous is all the eye makeup. Why do these gals want to look like raccoons with caterpillars on their eyelids? Not to mention the bee-stung lips painted with high gloss varnish.

    All I watch on TV anymore is reruns of The Office. I like the realism.

  59. Enneagram says:

    Elizabeth (Canada) (08:17:41) : What a good idea!: Make a conference for all climate scientists’ wifes to explain them the skeptics view of the issue…In returning home they very convincingly will deliver the skeptics view to their husbands, and we’ll see the results next day on the MSM.

  60. George E. Smith says:

    Anthony, you should sue NBC for plagiarism.

  61. Ando says:

    Interestingly Law and Order has a British version! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_and_Order_UK
    It’s pretty fun to watch for a few episodes because it’s so much the same and yet they have to change some of the elements to fit in with the British legal system. Very fun to see especially if you’ve been watching law and orders for a while.

    Anyway I thought I’d post a link to the Climategate epsisode. All the climategate stuff stops after like 12 minutes, so if you don’t wanna watch anymore you don’t have to after 12.

    The site makes u watch a short commercial before you see the show.

    http://www.wisevid.com/gate-way?v=3Abf99A85wzc

  62. Neo says:

    I’ve always wondered what an alien would learn from network TV. With Law & Order, NCIS, CSI, Cold Case, Bones, The Mentalist and all the other crime programs. Top that off with “Lost” where most watching it relate directly with the name.

  63. Milwaukee Bob says:

    I loved (note past tense.. ) Law & Order!
    But then I remembered (last night) I was a pseudo-scientist, and I deal with disagreements with emotional detachment and reason.
    So I shut it off and will never watch it again.

    … Like Dick Wolf cares. LOL

  64. Al Gored says:

    Gee, missed it. Was the victim killed with a hockey stick?

  65. Stephen Brown says:

    “My prediction is that in about ten or fifteen years time we will have learned that innocent people have been convicted and executed based on irrefutable DNA evidence.”
    Exactly the same thing has been said many times about fingerprints since Haque and Bose set up the very first fingerprint bureau in Calcutta in 1897. Since then there has not been one instance of two people bearing the same fingerprint.
    Fingerprints are still definitive evidence in Courts of Law around the world. DNA has achieved the same degree of reliability in a much shorter time-span.

  66. geo says:

    Fingerprints are better than DNA –identical twins won’t have the same fingerprints.

    But there are almost certainly cases where fingerprints got the wrong guy executed, and it doesn’t in the least require “bad science” to have that scenario happen. Just a bad cop, or unfortunate timing, or a unsympathetic suspect.

  67. Bob Meyer says:

    I haven’t watched Law and Order for years (even Alana de la Garza isn’t enough reason although she comes pretty close) but I’m willing to bet that the murderer is a rich, white businessman. A few years back I watched several episodes in a row and it got so all I knew the guilty party as soon as he was introduced. Rich, white and in business was all I needed to know.

    Since this took all the fun out of figuring out who the killer was I finally emailed the network asking if just once the villain could be a handicapped, black, lesbian social worker who does volunteer work for environmentalist organizations? And if possible, could she also be homeless?

    I didn’t get a reply.

  68. Z says:

    geo (14:46:12) :

    Fingerprints are better than DNA –identical twins won’t have the same fingerprints.

    But there are almost certainly cases where fingerprints got the wrong guy executed, and it doesn’t in the least require “bad science” to have that scenario happen. Just a bad cop, or unfortunate timing, or a unsympathetic suspect.

    As in this case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_McKie

  69. Amino Acids in Meteorites says:

    Kate (01:11:13) :

    they find out the guy didn’t do it and it turns out this story is about something else entirely.

    This about the show made me lose interest in it too. I liked the show a lot at the beginning. But I still like Vincent D’Onofrio’s acting (for the most part).

  70. @ wws (04:08:37) :

    “Shatner was in “Boston Legal”, a superior show that managed to retain it’s sense of humor in spite of the serious topics covered. (my favorite scene was when Shatner flipped open his cell phone and looked at it like it was his old communicator)”

    I like the attempted mugging scene

  71. Bob Diaz says:

    I never watch Law and Order; I’ve seen enough shows to understand that the writers of the show bend the storyline to preach a left wing rant. More crap TV from NBC.

  72. 4TimesAYear says:

    The link to the full episode isn’t working…

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