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FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:
As the debate continues about global warming, the month of December was the 14th coldest in 115 years in the United States… and some scientists insist the earth is entering a cooling trend.
- Wind chills brought temperatures in the Dakotas to 50 degrees below zero, while record cold in parts of Florida is damaging some of the orange crops, and South Carolina called an early end to shrimping season.
- Parts of Canada have seen actual temperatures of 30 below zero… And freezing temperatures and record snowfalls are pounding parts of Asia and Europe too.
- Britain has experienced the worst snowfalls in half a century.
- In India – it’s estimated at least 100 people have died due to the cold temperatures… with dozens more killed in Bangladesh.
- In China and South Korea, heavy snow and unusually cold weather have brought chaos to travelers – blocking roads and trains, canceling flights. After one recent blizzard in Beijing – officials had more than 300-thousand people clearing the streets.
Meanwhile some of the world’s top climate scientists suggest this winter is only the start of a worldwide trend toward cooler weather, which could last for 20 to 30 years. They base their predictions on changes in water temperatures in the oceans.
The scientists say much of the global warming in the last century was actually caused by these oceanic cycles when they were in a “warm mode”… as opposed to the current “cold mode.” They suggest there will be cooler summers ahead too.
It’s the kind of research that could undermine lots of what we’ve been told about the warming of the Earth being caused only by man-made greenhouse gas emissions.
Here’s my question to you: How has this winter affected your belief in global warming?
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Now they are gonna blame it on Global warming.. It can create a sudden heat to cold change..
If this new trend in global cooling does continue as predicted by some, I expect that in just a few short years any AGW alarmists that still want to continue the hoax should be arrested for fraud. Al Gore hopefully with be the first. I can’t wait.
Dont get me wrong, they were knowing it would come to this.. Together with codex alimentrius this codex can kill a lot of people..
*starting to harvest long lasting canned food*
He will actually be using these things as talking points? It would be amazing to hear this said on CNN, especially this:
Meanwhile some of the world’s top climate scientists suggest this winter is only the start of a worldwide trend toward cooler weather, which could last for 20 to 30 years
Mother Nature and ClimateGate are giving a one-two punch to ‘global warming’.
And I am enjoying it.
Didn’t believe in AGW before, don’t believe in AGW now. It’s all natural variability.
Strong earthquake in Haiti, magnitude 7.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/290_20.php
Cafferty, who is generally a liberal lunatic, finally seems to have got something right.
AGW is non-scientific nonsense, but our recent “northern” weather is just that, “Weather.”
UAH has January (Globally) coming in “sizzling” hot.
This was predicted in 2005 by scientists at the Russian Academy of Sciences and warned by others. Actual observations have confirmed their analysis while adding yet another example of the failure of the anthropogenic global warming models. At some point, reality will carry the day over complex models influenced by agendas.
Benicia, California
This colder winter confirms my expectations of long term cooling as predicted by Prof. Don Easterbrook in 2001 due to the Pacific Ocean Oscillation changing from its hot to cold phase. The record snow is likely due to the very low and long solar cycle transition. Global warming models must incorporate ocean oscillations and solar cycles to achieve even seasonal accuracy. Chaotic ocean and atmospheric variations prevent accurate decadal and century long predictions.
Globally, this (northern) winter is warmer than last – which doesn’t prove a thing about AGW, one way or the other.
http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps
It hasnt influenced me the slightest.
If someone believes that CO2, which is approx. 0.04% of the athmosphere can have a dominant effect, while you have approx. 95% watervapor out there, which is a stronger “greenhouse” gas….If you additionally believe there is a forcing factor, which is proven almost non-existant…..and additionally dont believe in negative feedback…
And dont believe that CO2 is pretty fast absobed by sinks in nature…
And additionally believe you can model a chaotic system in a computer….with multivariable variables…with unknown couplings….hundreds of years into the future, while you cannot even predict 10 years ahead….
AND look away from the urban heat effect in ground-station plots…
AND dont take into consideration the suns influence…
Then , okay.
But I dont.
Its a tax scam.
From Norway
Above link doesn’t work for some reason. Try this:
http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/
and hit ‘draw graph’.
My submission:
“While my own scientific understanding of this winter’s cold has simply been reinforced it has helped to persuade the general public and politicians that our weather and climate is not determined by mere climate prediction models that have been proven wrong in the past.
Recent historically low solar flux also greatly influences our climate and should also indicate decadal cooling.”
Wind chill is not temperature. While the snow line is meaningful, amount of snowfall is not linear with temperature (it rarely snows much after -15). On the Canadian prairies nightly lows of sub -30 are pretty common and have certainly happened every year for the last 200.
That said this has indeed been a pretty dramatic and far reaching winter so far. It hasn’t changed my opinion on AGW though – it seemed like BS posing as science before, and still does now. What has changed is people seem to be furiously painting out the word ‘warming’. ‘Climate Instability’ is the latest I’ve heard. People, it gets hotter, it gets colder. This is unrelated to your karma.
Time will tell if the planet has now gone into a cooling phase.
Needless to say, being how the alarmists have hedged their bets by way of claiming there will be periods of cooling amidst an overall warming trend… thus any sort of cooling, whether it lasts 2 years or 20 years, will not alter their dogmatic belief that the planet will continue to heat up via manmade GHG’s.
How is it possible for any natural cycle/force to trump the ‘ever-powerful primary driver’ known as CO2 ? No doubt they will invent a ‘scientific’ answer for that as well when the time comes…
*sigh*
It’s a puff piece intended to show that john q public is an imbecile who can barely remember how to get home from work. If nobody believes in AGW then they’re vapid sheep who get distracted by a short bout of cold. (e.g.)
Can’t win. This is CNN we’re talking about, with made up minds and settled science. This cannot end well. (sigh.)
I didn’t believe the Coming Ice Age of the 1970’s, I expected a reversion to the mean, I got it. Didn’t believe in AGW I expected a reversion to the mean, I’m getting that now.
I tend to try not to “believe in” things like this. It is fairly obvious at this point that climate is not stable. It can vary dramatically both warmer and cooler over very short periods of time. There are also some more periodic cycles associated with ocean conditions. We had such a warming cycle until the 1940’s, then had cooling until the late 1970’s, then warmed again until the 2000’s, and we are now cooling again.
The problem was assuming that the latest phase would simply continue forever and it would always warm. It is like riding a roller coaster and assuming it is going to climb forever and never return to Earth.
There has been nothing about this latest cycle that was extraordinary.
when he says 50/30 degrees, what scale does he mean?
i’m not from the US.
It hasn’t changed or made my view stronger and because of the confusion, its still not made it easier to talk about.
But then I don’t think any change how ever drastically bending towards cold would sway the majority… my question to him is ‘what would have to happen to bring the truth to light?’, ‘What could sway someone from this religion?’
I believe the science is now irrelevent, it could be totally, unquestionably and truthfully disproven, and it would just get ignored.
– The person who has disproven it, or somewhere they have worked can be linked to an oil company, therefore it can’t be taken seriously.
EARTHQUAKES: Forecast see;
http://sites.google.com/site/earthquakepredictionbyjac/Home/forecast
radun (14:51:37) :
Strong earthquake in Haiti, magnitude 7.
Start the countdowns.
Linkage to Climate Change made on the news in 30… 29… 28… 27…
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promising disaster relief aid, for this impoverished nation that has already been devastated by the catastrophic effects of Climate Change, in 23… 22…21… 20… 19…
Hey wait a minute. Will the earthquake news override the CNN climate piece? How suspicious!
And 15… 14… 13…
This was my offering to CNN’s call for opinions:
Thomas McKinzie January 12th, 2010 7:05 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
I’m an individual with technician training in both Aircraft Maintenance and Avionics Maintenance which has afforded me employment with such companies from 3M, Northwest Airlines to Jacobs Technology working at the Kennedy Space Center, which clearly puts me in the laic, however, AGW has been of interest to me for at least a decade. However, as someone that reads articles and opinions from a broad spectrum of sources, I have not ever been comfortable with the “facts” proving AGW. This summer/winter, if anything, only re-enforced what I already know, there was a political and monetary greed pushing this doctrine. It was elitist and condescending in nature, not worthy of sound scientific principles, that at 57 years of age, I was accustomed to in my education.
Thanks for listening.
It bothers me that the letter from CNN’s Jack Cafferty began: “Wind chills brought temperatures in the Dakotas to 50 degrees below zero…..” No, Jack, the wind has zero effect on temperature. Temperature is only what is measured with a thermomenter. “Wind chill” is a pseudo-measure of , or of heat transfer. Strong wind will speed up the rate of cooling, but the final temperature achieved will always be what the thermometer shows.
This is a very common mistake that pops up regularly in the media, but it is still wrong.
IanM (in cool but sunny southern New Brunswick)