This sequence of events will unfold during our remaining lifetimes. It starts with oil production from the Permian Basin in Texas peaking this year and then declining from 2026 at the rate of about one million barrels per day per annum. This will add to the rate of decline of oil production outside the United States already in train at about one million barrels per day per annum.
The oil price responds to this tightening of supply and rises through US$110 per barrel which is the price at which converting coal to synthetic liquid fuels becomes profitable. Coal becomes priced at the price of oil less the cost of conversion. It becomes just as expensive to produce electric power from coal as it would be to use oil as the energy source.

Figure 1: This graph shows total world fossil fuel production by type. In oil and gas, it was production from the United States that supplied demand growth so the US contribution in those sectors is separated out. Similarly in coal, China supplied all the growth in supply over the last 15 years. Without these two factors, the cost of energy would have risen.
While this is happening, the cost of power from nuclear reactors remains much the same and so becomes far cheaper than coal for power generation. The problem for humanity is that there isn’t a great deal of unmined uranium available to be brought into production. Current total fossil fuel consumption is near to 300 million barrels per day in oil equivalent terms. It is expected to fall by 100 million barrels per day by 2040 with half that due to Chinese coal production falling.
To replace that fall with nuclear power using the current dominant technology of U235-burning light water reactors would be difficult because it would require an expansion of uranium mining from the current rate of about 70,000 tonnes per annum to ten times that amount by 2040. The difficulty comes from the fact that the remaining undeveloped uranium deposits around the world could only support a fraction of the new supply needed.

Figure 2: The important line in this graph is the green one at the top of oil production outside the United States. That peaked at about 80 million barrels per day in 2016 and by 2023 had fallen to 77 million barrels per day. That was more than made good by the growth demonstrated by the darker green line at the bottom of the chart of oil production in the United States. With oil production in the Permian Basin rolling over into decline, total world oil production will start falling. Similarly, growth in US natural gas production rose from eight million barrels per day in energy equivalent terms in 2006 to more than double that in 2023. The biggest contribution to world energy supply growth has been Chinese coal production rising from 20 million barrels per day in 2000 to 67 million barrels per day in 2023 in energy equivalent terms. They have also been importing another 500 million tonnes of coal per annum which is seven million barrels of oil per day in energy equivalent terms. China won’t be able to build nuclear power plants fast enough to offset the decline in energy availability that is coming.
There is a solution though in the form of all the uranium that has already been mined to date of 3.3 million tonnes. Only 0.4% of that has been fissioned and the rest remains available. This is because in the light water reactor route to nuclear power, the U235 content of the as-mined uranium is concentrated from 0.7% to around 4% to make fuel rods. The tails from this process is called ‘depleted uranium’ and grades 0.2% U235. There are some 2.8 million tonnes of depleted uranium in storage. Of the 15% of mined uranium that made it into fuel rods, only one thirtieth of that was consumed in the fission process and the rest remains available for recycling. This amounts to half a million tonnes, accompanied by about 5,000 tonnes of plutonium created by the neutron flux in the reactors. In fact, by the time fuel rods are pulled in the light water reactor route, half of the energy is coming from plutonium bred from U238 in the rods.
The way to utilise the uranium that has already been mined is to process the spent fuel to separate the plutonium from the uranium using a hydrometallurgical process called Purex (Plutonium Uranium Reduction Extraction). This involves dissolving the fuel in nitric acid and using solvent extraction with a mixture of tributyl phosphate and a hydrocarbon diluent. The fission products are also removed. The Purex process costs about USW$1,000 per kilo treated. Relative to the cost of providing a reactor with enriched uranium, this equates to a yellowcake (U3O8) price of US$160 per lb. It used to be higher than that but the disruption to the nuclear fuel supply chain caused by the Ukraine War has increased the cost of uranium enrichment. The cost of raw uranium, at its current price, contributes only US$0.003 per kWh to the cost of nuclear power. This is only five percent or so of the total cost of power from new-build reactors. The price of uranium could double or triple from the current price of US$64/lb of U3O8 without moving the needle much for the consumer.
Right at the beginning of the nuclear age it was realised that there would be a shortage of uranium at some stage. The world’s first commercial reactor at Shippingport, Pennsylvania in 1957 combined thorium in its fuel rods to breed that to uranium. By the late 1970s there was a lot of activity around the world in developing designs for plutonium breeder reactors. In France, the Phenix demonstration reactor at 250 MWe was commissioned in 1973 and followed by the Superphenix reactor at 1,200 MWe in 1985. It closed 13 years later after a political deal with the Greens who required it to be shut down. The Superphenix had operated with up to 96% availability. In Russia, the BN 350 demonstration reactor was followed by the BN 600 reactor with power output of 600 MWe. This reactor was brought online in 1980 and will operate to at least 2040. In turn that was followed by the BN 800 of 880 MWe in 2016. Russia has had decades of stable plutonium breeder reactor operation. If Russia can do that, so can we.
Plutonium breeder reactors can be designed to have a breeding margin of up to 40%, that is they will produce 40% more plutonium than they consume. As a practical matter they are usually designed to operate with a breeding margin of 20%. Thorium has a theoretical breeding margin of 8% but is only likely to be able to wash its face in a practical design and thus might need help from excess plutonium to get it over the line in terms of neutron economy. This is important because there is four times as much thorium that can be mined than uranium. A truly high-level civilisation would start working towards that end now.
David Archibald is the author of The Anticancer Garden in Australia
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Every year, the peak oil nut jobs climb out of their burrows to proclaim that this is the year when oil production will FINALLY start dropping.
One of these years they will be right, but not for several hundred years.
“It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future”
—attributed to both Niels Bohr and Yogi Berra
And also to the great nuclear physicist Enrico Fermi.
I prefer to attribute it to Yogi, is sounds like him.
probably not before average production costs reach $200/bbl in 2025 dollars
which could be hundreds of years away
The earth is full of methane. The oil fields are refilling from methane converted into oil with an internal Fischer-Tropsch process.
Thorium is the nuclear fuel of the future. Its reactors eat nuclear waste from the current nuclear reactors.
https://thorconpower.com/ Indonesia
https://oklo.com/overview/default.aspx has site permits
https://www.copenhagenatomics.com/
There are more, but those are the top 3
The NRA is the biggest hinder
The claim that the earth is full of methane, is even nuttier than the claims of the peak oilers.
It is physically impossible for there to be any methane deeper than a couple of miles into the earth.
When the earth first formed, it was molten for the first 100 million years. During this period ALL of the lighter materials floated to the surface. You don’t get much lighter than hydrogen and carbon.
https://www.llnl.gov/article/29776/methane-deep-earth-possible-new-source-energy
Might be true but uneconomic.
Somehow, the oil fields are refilling. That is economic.
https://www.forbes.com/2008/11/13/abiotic-oil-supply-energenius08-biz-cz_rl_1113abiotic.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/pgfx6b/cmv_oil_is_abiotic_and_is_not_a_fossil_fuel/?rdt=61544
https://phys.org/news/2019-04-rewriting-textbook-fossil-fuels-technologies.html
https://www.forbes.com/2008/11/13/abiotic-oil-supply-energenius08-biz-cz_rl_1113abiotic.html
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Are-Oil-Wells-Recharging-Themselves.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/26/science/geochemist-says-oil-fieldsmay-be-refilled-naturally.html
https://rense.com/general63/refil.htm
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellynch/2018/03/13/old-oil-fields-are-a-major-source-of-new-supply/
Well, awesome as I like oil and all ff. 🙂
Well, there is methane in gas or liquid form, and then there is methane as it exists as a solid compound within a crystalline structure of water molecules known methane clathrate hydrate (aka methane hydrate or “fire ice”). It’s formed under specific conditions of low temperature and moderate pressure, typically found in deep ocean sediments.
“The latest estimates indicate that, worldwide, methane hydrates under the sea hold at least as much carbon as all the coal, oil and natural gas reserves on the planet. Yet few have been studied in detail . . . A recent geologic survey suggests that the hydrates off the coasts of the lower 48 states alone hold the equivalent of 2,000 years of natural gas supply at the country’s current rate of consumption.”
— https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/methane-hydrates-could-power-the-planet-or-fry-it/
(my bold emphasis added, and please note this info was published back in 2014)
IMHO, if the demand for fossil fuel energy becomes strong enough, mankind will find a way to harvest methane hydrates from the bottom of the world’s oceans.
MarkW – You would be well advised to check the numbers rather than make a wild guess. Can technological advances keep ahead of the inevitable for ever – well, not for ever, but for your claimed “several hundred years”? We would all like you to be right, but some of us prefer to check things. Just because some people were wrong about some things in the past doesn’t mean that they will all be wrong about everything for ever. If you check what Marion King Hubbert got wrong, you can recalculate rather than dismiss out of hand.
This article is very much in line with my WUWT article and the BP outlook that I cited back in 2019 – USA liquids production to peak around 2030. I reckoned global peak oil in the 2040s, possibly earlier. It would be prudent for the powers that be to check the future as portrayed by David Archibald, and then prepare.
More than that, peak oil isn’t about running out, peak oil is about reaching the maximum production rate and that will happen well before we actually run out of oil.
The thing about technology such as fracking is that it doesn’t add oil to the reserves, it increases our ability to get it quickly. When we hit peak the drop off the other side comes quicker, the better we are at extracting it.
It’s innovation = finding new uses for current technology which brings about progress – and this is linked to the supply, demand, price “miracle” of free market capitalism which turns scarcity (all resources are scarce) into abundance.
The Industrial Revolution ran on steam technology which was discovered in 73AD by Heron – it wasn’t new technology that started the “revolution” finding new uses for current technology.
Most of what people consider “high-tech” is 18th/19th Century stuff – Humans are just very inventive in finding new ways to use technology.
Oil production has dropped almost everywhere except the USA and the cost of extraction is rising
Every year, the cornucopian nutjobs climb out of their burrows to proclaim that this is the year people will recognise that oil in the ground is an infinitely renewable reosurce
Free market capitalism process only works because of price and scarcity.
When price goes up, this signals suppliers to find new ways to supply more, and for consumers to find new ways to use less. Thus do we create abundance from scarcity.
At age 73 I find we ran out of coal 50 years before I was born, and we have run out of oil at least five times since e my first candle on the cake, we have had numerous food wars due to our inability to farm enough produce to feed the enlarged global population…
To a point. When we run out of a resource then no amount of demand can bring it back. Technology can substitute something else. Take whaling for their oil as an example. If it wasn’t for the move to fossil fuel oil, then we would have wiped out the whales. We came close as it was.
“Reprocessing” would also deal with the “nuclear waste disposal”issue. That was an artifact of Carter demanding a “once through”fuel cycle, with the misguided goal of stopping proliferation of weapons. Direct action against a few mullahs would have been more effective.
Carter and the mullahs are gone now.
Carter is, but his legacy remains as policy. Different mullahs are still in power.
mule-uhs
Technically, that is not correct. Reagan rescinded Carter’s ban shortly after taking office; however, the damage had already been done. Years of not being able to do any work on recycling used nuclear fuel resulted in an atrophied research infrastructure, and the idea of implementing recycling was dropped in the 1980’s (it was too hard to start again) after the government had spent billions of dollars on research. Then, in 1982, Congress decided that the so-called “waste” would be buried somewhere.
That’s not the end of the story, however. Up until a little over a decade ago, the Department of Energy was building a facility in South Carolina to do exactly what is mentioned in the article here: separate out the plutonium and manufacture new nuclear fuel from it. The source material was going to be plutonium from nuclear weapons material, but the process could have been altered without much difficulty to take used fuel from commercial nuclear plants. Again, after spending billions of dollars building the facility and installing the first equipment, the federal government dropped the project during the Obama administration as being “too expensive” and taking too long to complete.
If the Department of Energy were a person; he would be diagnosed as a schizophrenic.
The mullahs are currently prepping ballistic missiles in anticipation of bomb production. Who you think they gonna pop first?
The Hiroshima bomb was dropped Aug 6 1945 – 80 years ago now. It could happen again but expecting no more bombs anywhere, ever might be wishful.
Oh, my money is on them going for Riyadh, crack the House of Saud, their thinking being the rest of Arab League will bend knee toot quick and the Hebrews will collapse into themselves in terror. Ain’t how it will play out, the mullahs are quite crazy enough to believe it would.
Then again Pakistan and India may just dance first, to China’s delight.
Here in the US, reprocessing of SNF will come in its own good time at some point in the future when it makes economic sense to reprocess, once all relevant factors to the decision come into focus — possibly fifty to seventy-five years from now in my personal estimation. In the meantime, SNF will remain perfectly safe staying right where it is on the plant sites.
“This sequence of events will unfold during our remaining lifetimes. It starts with oil production from the Permian Basin in Texas peaking this year and then declining”
Been reading peak oil commentary for 25 years. Some day it will be right. Maybe today. Probably not.
Great article, David ! Feelings out, numbers in.
The biggest miss-priced resource on the planet is all that depleted uranium..It just takes a change of mindset.Instead of taking U235 out of as-mined uranium to make fuel rods, we will be taking plutonium out of spent fuel to add to it. We have to start breeding plutonium now if we are going to have enough when the crunch comes. And to all those saying there is an endless supply of oil, explain why gold production hasn’t risen in response to the gold price going ballistic
Smarter people than you have done the costings, and with uranium as cheap as it is now, it’s simply not worth it.
Britain both reprocess fuel rods and did build a breeder reactor. Neither are economically viable at this point in time
Miss Price is confused.
The US has hundreds of years of proven COAL reserves with zero threat of plutonium in hostile hands.
The cost of cleaning coal is small. However, this cannot be done profitably while intermittent supplies get top dollar regardless of load.
The plutonium contained in used commercial nuclear fuel is worthless for creating a bomb.
Plutonium is plutonium regardless of source. Of the 2 bombs dropped on Japan, one was uranium the other plutonium.
It is refreshing to read an article about nuclear energy without the usual distraction of nuclear fusion entering into the debate.
All those years ago when I entered the world of engineering, nuclear fusion was the imminently available energy option that would be at commercial level of development in just ten years.
That was the position in the 1960s. It remained like that in the 1970s the 1980s the 1990s and every decade since.
I have come to accept there will be no nuclear fusion facility at a commercial level of operation in my lifetime. I would love to be wrong but it looks like fission is the option we have to look to to provide endless cheap low to no emission energy powering the grid.
If we had concentrated on fast breeders we would be in a much better situation re energy cost and security than we are now, having thrown £billions at pointless wind and solar here in the UK.
The anti nuclear campaign has probably been the most damaging movement in history, perhaps now being challenged for that massive negative medal by the Climate Alarmist movement.
We should remember the two bands of ‘influencers’ are the same tribe of crazies. The ban the bombers were left in the rebels without a cause position back in 1989 when the USSR collapsed so they morphed into climate alarmists to avoid being unemployed….
Hey ho, happy St Georges Day to all. We still have some dragons to slay. 🙂
Ruins of Gaza and Donbas show us that we don’t really need nuclear bombs.
The weapons dump near Moscow that Ukraine just blew up is estimated to have quarter of a million tons of explosive in it.
Ten times larger than Hiroshima.
There are “estimates” offered for the purpose of grabbing the public’s attention . . . and there are realistic estimates.
3 years of war in Ukraine (more like 10 if you include the shadow war), 18 months in a tiny patch of land in Gaza, nukes could’ve destroyed both in minutes.
While Russia/China/NK/Iran(soon) have them, we need them.
I have a strong urge to dismiss articles like this because they use the same fundamental logic as “peak oil” commentators since the 1950’s, the Club of Rome, Malthus, etc., and that logic is “what we know about fuel/ mineral sources and technology relevant to their discovery and use is all we will ever know, so let’s extrapolate on those assumptions.”
Those assumptions are demonstrably wrong. Such extrapolations are meaningless.
I have no problem with anyone making arguments for the expanded use of nuclear fuel use in any of its various forms. However, to base such arguments on the decline in the economics of fossil fuels based on its presumed availability or current relevant technologies is just not sound.
Better would be to assess the cost of using nuclear technologies if permitting and regulation were to be reasonable given what we know about these technologies. If nuclear fuel would be more economic under those circumstances, then lets advocate for changing permitting and regulation and let the market determine how much to invest in nuclear versus fossil fuels. A truly high-end civilization would do exactly that. It starts with using the correct advocacy.
CANDU showed back in the day that nuclear base load was abut half the price of oil, nearly as cheap as gas and roughly equivalent with coal. Only hydro was cheaper, thanks to Slartibartfast having done all the major construction work for them.
Armchair pundits love to theorise about which type of nuclear.
Frankly any fucking type of nuclear will do.
There are no technical or economic issues with any type of nuclear. Only political ones
Sadly King Donald doesn’t seem to have any plans for nuclear at all. Other than annexing a reactor in Ukraine.
Still, dumping on ‘renewables’ is a start I suppose.
Shame about all the US businesses that will collapse because they cant import economically, and the massive inflation that will be caused along with unemployment by unavailability of cheap imported goods. And the complete loss of arms exports as it turns out that you can’t use them to actually fight a war…
Ah well. Eggs and omelettes
“This is important because there is four times as much thorium that can be mined than uranium. A truly high-level civilisation would start working towards that end now.”
But democrats want to take us back to plowing behind oxen, and living in dirt huts, while of course, their leadership lives on the high-hills in luxury. At best, they have no common sense.
Democrats hate the middle class and the poor. The poor less so since they are easier to control.
Republicans don’t hate them., The simply exploit them
FYI, there are many in this high-level USA civilization who have been working on thorium reactors
And you think the republicans are different?
I am increasingly convinced D-He3 is the future of energy
this is technology happening right now, not in 20 years
https://www.helionenergy.com/articles/how-to-engineer-a-renewable-deuterium-helium-3-fusion-fuel-cycle/
I have a nice bridge for sale, cheap.
eh, should be producing power later this year
if it’s a scam we’ll know soon enough
afaik no other fusion project can claim that
Without a working prototype?
Well at least we only have to wait 8 months to say we told you so.
With the right catalyst and way more energy than you’ll get out of the fuel produced, you can make hydrocarbons from CO2. This is technology happening right now, not in 20 years. Where have I heard that line?
Fusion technology has two major challenges fuel ignition and fuel supply (plasma). Helion claims, “we don’t need ignition, and we’ll breed our own 3 helium”. What else could they say? I say easier said than done. I think my crystal ball is showing something about five years from now Helicon saying, “we almost got it, send more money.”
Helion website:
Helium-3 is also produced as a result of deuterium-deuterium fusion. Helion will produce helium-3 by fusing deuterium in its fusion generators utilizing a patented high-efficiency closed-fuel cycle. Helion’s new process means we can produce helium-3 ourselves.
Today, Helion produces a very small amount of helium-3. In future systems, we will increase helium-3 output to be used in our fuel cycle.
Helion better be right about that, it wasn’t considered achievable as recently as 2021
no, the big problem with fusion is that now it is being developed backwards. we have achieved ignition and stable temp for a short time, but the problem is ‘what to do with the waste heat’!!!!
NO, waste heat is what will be power. design for utilisation of waste heat now.
If only the US had oil reserves somewhere other than the Permian Basin….
This is not very convincing. Peak Oil and Peak Gas are fallacious, and nuclear cannot compete without special government subsidies, such as the PTC under the IRA (Biden, continued by Trump).
Why not a free market in electricity?
The only help nuclear needs from government are regulatory and legal reforms.
“A truly high-level civilisation would start working towards that end now.”
China is building a large TH reactor that is scheduled for 2030.
China is anything but high level, but they don’t listen to idiots some of the time. That a positive. High level civilization don’t build building the never will be occupied. That only make sense when you have idiots setting up metrics for GDP.
No government truly controls a country. Russia comes closest. And is busy destroying it. Putin’s answer to immigration and demographics is to ensure no one in their right mind would move there, and to kill as many of his own citizens as possible.
Why share all that natural resource wealth with anyone but your oligarch chums? When you can keep it all yourself?
Trump idolises Putin, and wants to remodel the USA on Russia. It is interesting to watch from a distance. No one in Europe wants to visit the USA right now, for fear of disappearing to El Salvadorian gulags without trace.
Chinese goods have never been cheaper in Europe.
West Texas production stands at 4mmb/d today. What you are saying is that West Texas runs out by 2030 (“one mmb/d per annum”)? And somehow no one knows this and oil prices aren’t already $110+ p/bbl?
“A truly high-level civilisation would start working towards that end now.” To bad we don’t have a high-level civilization. We would one if our media, education, courts, legislatures and bureaucracy were not run by idiots.
Morons Are Governing America. Now you have a government to match as well.
No one in Europe considers that America is a truly high-level civilisation anymore. If indeed it ever was..
From barbarism to decadence without any intervening period of civilisation is the relevant quote…
Yes, yes. If only the US had a civilisation that could produce a Starmer, and the people were wise enough to elect him.
Recently, the Russians claimed that there are about 511 billion barrels of oil in the Antarctic Basin and there are also vast deposits of natural gas. If this is true, we have nothing to worry about future oil supplies.
We have to convince the UN to lift the moratorium of on oil and gas exploration and development in this basin.
That doesn’t apply to American Antarctica, our 57th state!
Globally we use around 100M barrels a day so that’s around 5k days worth or about 14 years. And that’s total. It’s less to get to peak production. So you really need to run the numbers rather than being excited about a seemingly big number.
Let me get this straight.
In the Age of Wood it was: chop, baby, chop.
In the Age of Coal it was mine, baby, mine.
In the Age of Oil it was drill, baby, drill.
In the Age of Bakken it is frack, baby, frack
In the Age of Nuke it is breed, baby breed.
I wonder what is next.
Very nice David. Your charts are helpful but I’m afraid don’t give the whole story. Yes the price and production of fossil fuel has gone up and down for decades but supply and demand are only part of the equation. Politics is also a huge factor, I didn’t see that mentioned in your article. There has been tremendous political pressure to use less fossil fuel. As for electricity production nuclear should be front and center but not necessarily the only producer. We should make it our business to squeeze every ounce of energy we can from our nuclear power process. We need to stop pissing our money and resources away on wind and solar. We need to be aware and judicious with our use of petroleum and gas to make sure we have plenty to power our hot rods for a long time.
We have a high-level civilization—based on a market economy.
We don’t need the most obtuse people in society warping markets to try to bring about outcomes. Everything but everything that government touches turns to, ahem, excrement.
When government gets involved, either something that would have happened anyway will be delayed and made more expensive, or something absurd and impossible will be chased to fill the pockets of connected cronies.
Being in the power industry I have a theory about cheap food and energy.
In our industrial world it only takes a few people to produce the finite amount of food and energy we need. As a result, most people have no friends who are farmers or work at power plants.
As a result, those who live in cities worry about what will happen if the supply of food and energy is interrupted.
It is simply! You will die.
After Qantas grounded aircraft in Australia because of the plume from a small volcano in Chile, I realised that Australia was run by idiots and there was a good chance of starving to death. So I bought a tonne, literally, of tinned tuna and beans in oil. Oil instead of water because you will need the extra calories.
Judging from your plan you may want to stand in front of a mirror when calling others idiots. The first thing you need to survive more than a few days is clean drinking water.
I have been retired for about ten years. I spend a lot of time camping and sailing where it is not unusual to see no one for days. On major holidays, I stay off the water and out of the woods because crazy people will get me killed.
On this topic, I am not worried about running out of energy and food. I have a plan for 7 days if nature caused a short term problem.
In 2000/2001 Califonia had rolling black outs. Ten years before I worked at a nuke plant that was closed. I had prepared the plant to be shut down but the shut down was delayed because rolling blackouts.
About that time, there was a web site called peak oil. There were 36 reactors on the NRC docket. Fracking killed the peak oil web site and new reactors.
A Thorium – 233U fuel cycle will just about break even in a CANDU reactor, though that doesn’t do anything about getting a startup inventory of 233U. MSR’s hoped for advantage is that the neutron poisons (Xenon, Samarium and Gadolinium amongst others) can removed quickly from the molten salt solution.
I remember hearing in the 1980’s that there was more than enough depleted Uranium in storage to provide several centuries of energy in a fast breeder fuel cycle. For those concerned about proliferation, the EBR-II fuel cycle keeps Plutonium well mixed with fission products.
There is an estimated 10,000 years of fissile and fertile nuclear material in te world in the crust and in the seas.
There is something weird about people claiming that uranium will run out, but oil and gas will not…
The comments to this post are so full of misconceptions that it is disappointing to WUWT.
Fast breeders exist. PUREX exists now in Japan. MOX fission fuel rod cycles are easy IF allowed. Burying spent fuel rods was just more Carter stupidity.
Abiotic oil is not possible. There is plenty of fracked shale natgas to be developed. Fischer-Tropf is but one way to convert coal to liquid hydrocarbons. Others exist above $110/bbl.
The peak in conventional oil production occurred about 2007. The peak in all crude oil production is about now, but with a long slow decline tail unlike Hubbert’s misapplied logistics curve—it is (as proven by North Slope and North Sea) a gamma function.
I agree 100%. Oil will just get more and more expensive.
We already seek oil in the high Arctic and the ocean floors. The finding and production costs will keep rising…technical means to get the remaining oil out of depleted reservoirs will be developed in fits and starts…We need to be building nuclear for utility urban electricity…save Petroleum for its myriad of beneficial other uses than generating electricity. Just the much maligned “single use plastics” beneficially reduces food spoilage by probably 10%…..
Sure fast breeders exist, but they’re both located in … (gasp) … Russia. The politics are really bad at the moment.
It’s been a while since I looked up the number, but if I recall correctly from the last time I did, about one-third of the fuel used in France’s nuclear reactors is MOX, which is all manufactured at one facility in Normandy.
Take coal and using FT turn it into a liquid hydrocarbon at about a 60% efficiency. Then burn it in an internal combustion engine at about 30% efficiency. That’s less than 20% efficient overall.
Its way better to use the coal directly to generate electricity. EVs are the future whether you like and accept it or not.
Simply not true. It’s all a matter of cost. The point at which higher costs of building breeders are offset by greater uranium burn efficiency or the move to thorium breeders.
At the moment there is plenty of uranium,
Do the sums Leo, do the sums. The world is going to Net Zero whether we like it or not because one day we will have burnt through all the fossil fuels. If we replace the energy decline by fossil fuels to 2040 with nuclear power by the light water route, this is the modelled increased in uranium demand:
“While this is happening, the cost of power from nuclear reactors remains much the same and so becomes far cheaper than coal for power generation.”
Oh? If you ignore all the cost to get that power output! The cost of any resource is the capital needed to produce an output beneficial to Mankind, the value of which must be higher than the input cost or its a loss.
If nuclear is “so cheap”, why has every fleet been built using taxpayer subsidies? Why in France has the Government renationalised EDF because it could not raise the cash from private investors – who won’t take the risk – to replace its aging fleet of nukes? Why is the Hinckley Point C reactor which has been under construction since 2016, due for completion in 2019, 2026, 2030 and running at twice the budget and requiring an inflation-linked, lifetime guaranteed per MWh price higher than even wind and solar cost?
I think the nuclear power wallahs have done the same economics course as the “renewables” energy wallahs.
Nuclear has high initial cost with a long payout that is of little interest to financial investors who are planning on having savings to retire to Florida within 20 years. It is governments that have to look at the post 25 year payouts for the public good. That’s why taxpayer subsidies are the norm for nuclear plants. People are familiar with 25 year mortgages for their houses so thought that 25 year investment in nuclear power plants would fly…but in reality no investor want to look at 25 year returns unless there are government guarantees of some sort involved that make their investment saleable to someone else if the need arises.
Over the life cycle, nuclear plant payout is pretty good, unless you shut them down early like Germany….somewhat boring but informative econ description here:
https://youtu.be/cbeJIwF1pVY?si=WXPZ5R-Ny7Sshcgq
no investor want to look at 25 year returns
Maybe put Remy Martin (cognac makers) in charge. They’re currently distilling eaux-de-vies for use in cognacs a century from now (and using ones that are >100 years old currently). That’s a company with a long term view.
Stop using :fossil fuels.”
Start using “Jurassic energy gifts.”
I attended a panel discussion concerning small modular reactors (SMR’s) at the WSU Tri-city campus in Richland on Tuesday afternoon. These opinions were offered in the course of the discussion:
— A variety of small modular reactor designs are now under development in the US and abroad.
— The various SMR technologies used by these designs are not new. Experimental and production reactors going back decades have already demonstrated the technology works.
— The benefits of one SMR design approach over another approach have more to do with cost economics and operational flexibility than with the technical risks of each alternative technology.
— China already has production reactors which employ many of the SMR technologies now under discussion in the US.
— China has built all of its new reactors, both the large ones and the oncoming SMRs, on cost and on schedule.
— More money has been spent on fusion in the last two years than had been spent in the previous seventy years. However, commercial fusion is at least ten years away. And it will always be at least ten years away far into the future.
— New approaches to the technology of reprocessing spent nuclear fuel may reduce its high costs to a point where reprocessing of SNF once again comes under serious consideration in the US.
— Here in the US, the problem of the high up-front capital cost of nuclear power is driven much more by industrial base issues, by supply chain issues, and by workforce availability issues than it is by issues with the burdens of government regulation.
— No more large 1200 MW AP-1000 size reactors such as those recently built at Vogtle in Georgia will be constructed in the United States. It’s just too difficult to concentrate that much financial and industrial resource in one project at one time.
— Energy Northwest hopes to build an 80 MW Xe-100 SMR and get it operational between 2032 and 2035. Whether or not their Xe-100 project goes forward depends on how successful Dow Chemical in Louisiana is with building the very first Xe-100 prototype.
— If Energy Northwest’s first Xe-100 project goes forward and is successful, eleven more will be added over time, but only as demand for electricity grows.
Other opinions were voiced by several other knowledgeable people during the informal gathering session afterwards:
— Wind and solar renewables require huge volumes of energy storage if these are to become reliable as baseload capacity throughout the year. This is a reality which the region’s wind and solar advocates refuse to acknowledge.
— Power planners in Montana and Wyoming are completely unaware that Washington State’s plans for power decarbonization include covering large parts of Montana and Wyoming with wind turbines and solar panels.
— Recent predictions of a huge increase in demand for electricity are not reliable as guides for power planning. Any increase in demand in the short term inside the US as a whole is likely to be met with new gas-fired capacity.
— Wind and solar backed by batteries is a cult religion among the green politicians who control California, Oregon, and Washington. And also among the voters who elect them. These politicians will not allow new gas-fired capacity to be built in their states.
— California, Oregon, and Washington will ignore the decision of the Trump administration to maintain America’s reliance on fossil fuels and will not abandon their energy decarbonization goals. Or abandon their Net Zero & Green New Deal agendas.
You can’t trust China’s “official” cost and schedule numbers. They’ve built whole unoccupied cities for almost zero cost according to them…they’re trying to sell Belt and Road on a model of the 1700’s British Empire…subjugate, colonize, take over ownership, until you run everything …to build and support the home aristocracy, which they deny they have…