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strativarius
July 21, 2024 2:26 am
Edstone Miliband has been getting all the attention lately with his mission to deindustrialise and dedevelop the UK. This has taken the spotlight off of developments in the capital.
Our glorious Mayor has wasted no time in resuming his neo-Napoleonic style of rule. Yes, we’ve had Ulez expansion and the war on the motor car, but there is plenty more to come.
The Blackwall Tunnel
The tunnel was originally opened as a single bore in 1897. A second bore opened in 1967 to relieve congestion, handling southbound traffic while the earlier 19th century tunnel handled northbound traffic. These tunnels were long paid for and were free to use.
But, when you’re overly profligate – a massive black hole in TfL coffers etc – and short of a few quid what do you do? Add another charge, of course. Thus from 2025…
But we know some will still stump up. Simply because they have to.
What many abroad may not know about is Sadiq Khan’s culture war on the English nation and the British in general. This one starts with the start of the European football (soccer) championships held recently in Germany…
“”London Mayor Sadiq Khan’s Transport for London (TfL) authorities state that the St George’s Cross could potentially “distract” other drivers and cause accidents.***
Indeed, London was the only UK city to ban display of the national flag. But it does get worse. Normally, at such sporting fests like the Euro’s and the World Cup areas are set up in the city for people to watch the games on a big screen. E.g. Google Euro 2016…
England’s heartbreak was made worse in London for football fans who tried to find places to watch the Euros final against Spain, only to realise that outside screenings – traditional in the capital’s big parks – had been banned by Sadiq Khan. Mayoral miser Khan blocked the provision of outside viewing areas or big screens for fans in the capital. Londoners were lucky to find a spot in a packed pub – or they had to win a ballot for City Hall’s limited capacity screening of the match at the O2…
The Met slapped an antisocial dispersal order on central London – somewhat confusingly given street gatherings were banned by the Mayor. The force said in a statement:
“If you were thinking of travelling in, perhaps consider other options and remember to plan your journey home.”
Any Questions… LibDem London Assembly Member Hina Bokhari sought to ask Sadiq Khan a simple enough question today at Mayor’s Question Time: Seeing as he repeatedly lobbied the Tory government to remove the two-child benefit cap, will he do the same with this government?
French ex-Muslim MajidOukacha explained that you can’t even applaud according to these rules. The number of prohibitions is staggering, 99% of Muslims (99.99% in Western liberal countries) have never heard of most rules.
As the article says no mention in Sadiq’s world of the Royal Navy’s role in ending European involvement in the slave trade. Nor which the article doesn’t mention a memorial to the people of the South and South West taken by Barbary Slavers. Nor a memorial to all the people taken by the Islamic Slave Traders noted as the longest slave trade, having occurred for more than 1,300 years. Turkey only passed legislation explicitly prohibiting slavery in 1964. Some would say the Arabian Peninsular still has Slaves and still makes money from using them.
In a sense, they have a memorial.
“Amazing Grace” written by an ex-slave trader who found Christ and became an abolitionist.
(Here in the US, they try to “cancel” that song.)
Will there ever be a way to reliably attribute a planet-wide warming trend to human emissions of CO2 from using fossil fuels? I think not. And is there any good reason to be concerned about it to begin with? No. The incremental static radiative effect is valid, but the dynamics of the atmosphere’s circulation prevent the energy involved in this effect from being retained as sensible heat.
Consider the concept of energy conversion in the atmosphere: [Kinetic energy] <-> [Internal energy + potential energy].
Lorenz described it. The ERA5 reanalysis model computes it explicitly as an hourly parameter, as the “vertical integral of energy conversion.” The units are W/m^2.
Why is this dynamic aspect of atmospheric circulation so important to grasp? Because it means that a “warming” effect from incremental GHG concentrations can never be isolated for reliable attribution of a reported trend. It also means there is no good reason to expect energy to accumulate as sensible heat in the climate system (land + ocean + atmosphere) from the minor radiative effect of incremental CO2, CH4, N2O, etc. It cannot be otherwise and make any sense at all out of the established math and physics of compressible fluids in numerical weather prediction, which is the basis of the ERA5 reanalysis model.
The “climate” movement has made a mountain out of the “greenhouse gas” molehill. It’s not even a molehill – it’s a flea on the mole in the molehill.
This is the reason I made this time-lapse video of plots of this particular parameter from ERA5. Full explanation pasted below in a reply. This is the same as the text description at the video on Youtube.
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Are CO2 emissions a risk to the climate? No. The static “warming” effect of incremental CO2 (~4 W/m^2 for 2XCO2) disappears as kinetic energy (wind) is converted to/from internal energy (including temperature) + potential energy (altitude).
This time lapse video shows the daily minimum, median, and maximum values of the computed “vertical integral of energy conversion” hourly parameter from the ERA5 reanalysis for 2022. Values for each 1/4 degree longitude gridpoint at 45N latitude are given. The vertical scale is from -10,000 to +10,000 W/m^2. The minor incremental radiative absorbing power of non-condensing GHGs such as CO2, CH4, and N2O vanishes on the vertical scale as the rapidly changing energy conversion in both directions is tens to thousands of times greater.
So what? The assumed GHG “forcings” cannot be isolated for reliable attribution of reported surface warming. And with all the circulation and energy conversion throughout the depth of the troposphere, heat energy need not be expected to accumulate on land and in the oceans to harmful effect from incremental non-condensing GHGs. The GHGs add no energy to the land + ocean + atmosphere system. Therefore the radiative properties of CO2, CH4, and N2O, and other molecules of similar nature, should not be assumed to produce a perturbing climate “forcing.” The concept of energy conversion helps us understand the self-regulating delivery of energy to high altitude for just enough longwave radiation to be emitted to space.
“2. Energy, available potential energy, and gross static stability
Of the various forms of energy present in the atmosphere, kinetic energy has often
received the most attention. Often the total kinetic energy of a weather system is regarded
as a measure of its intensity. The only other forms of atmospheric energy which appear
to play a major role in the kinetic energy budget of the troposphere and lower stratosphere
are potential energy, internal energy, and the latent energy of water vapor. Potential and
internal energy may be transformed directly into kinetic energy, while latent energy may
be transformed directly into internal energy, which is then transformed into kinetic energy.
It is easily shown by means of the hydrostatic approximation that the changes of the
potential energy P and the internal energy l of the whole atmosphere are approximately proportional, so that it is convenient to regard potential and internal energy as constituting
a single form of energy. This form has been called total potential energy by Margules (1903).
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In the long run, there must be a net depletion of kinetic energy by dissipative processes. It
follows that there must be an equal net generation of kinetic energy by reversible
adiabatic processes; this generation must occur at the expense of total potential energy. It
follows in turn that there must be an equal net generation of total potential energy by heating of all kinds. These three steps comprise the basic energy cycle of the atmosphere. The rate at which these steps proceed is a fundamental characteristic of the general circulation.”
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Ideal gases, and adiabatic compression and expansion “actually do not occur in nature” either, but still the ideal gas laws and the dry adiabatic lapse rate have useful meaning.
Just please be reminded that the entire quote is from the Lorenz 1960 paper to which I linked for reference. Don’t get hung up on his reference to “reversible adiabatic processes.”
Climate science has transmogrified CO2 into a “source” of temperature, even quantified as Watts / m2, the same units as real heat flux or irradiance. Thermodynamics should tell them this is total nonsense: temperature is an intensive quantity, and is the result of heat transfer, there is no such analogy to an irradiance source.
Irradiance: double the number of radiation flux sources incident on a surface, and the irradiance doubles (if they are similar in magnitude).
Temperature: double the number of temperature “sources”, does the temperature double? This is absurd. Temperature increases and decreases are the result of heat flow changes.
Yet this is the core of climate science and modeling.
Greenhouse theory relies upon radiative effects only. It is far too easy to just ignore or not even be cognizant of all the other effects occurring in heat transfer.
Shula and Ott argue that due to collisions in the atmosphere, virtually all energy that greenhouse gasses absorb from surface long wave radiation is transferred to inert gasses N, Ar) as kinetic energy. This is transferred to the TOA via convective processes. At the TOA radiative gasses (Co2, H2O, ect) are excited by collisions and then radiate to space. Any down radiation is quenched by further collisions with inert gasses.
Tom Shula and Markus Ott : The “Missing Link” in the Greenhouse Effect | Tom Nelson Pod #232
Energy transfer by radiation in the troposphere is possible, but only over very short distances, a matter of metres depending on the source intensity.
eg… if you are near a fire you can feel the radiant heat.
Convection, conduction and bulk air transport controlled by the gas laws, ie pressure, density difference are what governs the bulk of atmospheric transfer of energy.
Great presentation, by the way 🙂
Maybe number the slides so people can refer to them easier ?
I understand your perspective. I’ll just say that the statements in our work are specific to the issue we are addressing, i.e., transport of the energy from Earth’s upwelling long wave radiation to space. And, that radiative transport means a net movement of energy in a specific direction as a result of the cascading absorption and emission of photons.
The GHG molecules near the surface absorb ULR and enter excited states. Within ~ 10 microseconds, 99.998% of them are thermalized, and their vibrational energy is converted to sensible heat in the atmosphere. The remaining 0.002% or so manage to spontaneously emit a photon. And so it continues. The absorbers of those photons will likely be thermalized, as will any molecules that are thermally excited by collision. The thermalization converting rotovibrational energy to sensible heat is an irreversible process. There is no radiative energy to drive radiative transfer in the troposphere.
So, as you say, conduction, convection, and air transport govern the transfer of energy in the atmosphere.
It would appear that we are in “violent agreement” on this.
What I find paradoxical is that many in the so-called skeptic community agree with the conclusion, but insist that the GHE is REAL.
And thanks for the nice feedback on the presentation. Please encourage others to go to Tom Nelson’s channel. There are a lot of great presenters there, and I think those that want to govern how we think are messing with his channel a bit.
Yep, a slightly different perspective on short distance radiation.. It was just a point I thought needed clarifying before some AGW loon picked it up..
But in total agreement on everything else. 🙂
ps. I assume you have seen the work of the Connelly father/son duo…
… basically proving the gas laws rule the atmosphere, hence CO2 can cause no warming
Tom, I watched this video (at the link you shared) just now with great interest. Thank you! Do you have an opinion on my post here, with the short video of daily plots, and the explanation? It is consistent with what you have concluded, but adds some perspective about the different forms of energy in the atmosphere’s circulation, and which completely obscures and negates the so-called GHG “forcings.”
I would also invite you to view and to read the description at this very short video I posted last year about the Band 16 images from the GOES East geostationary satellite. https://youtu.be/Yarzo13_TSE
First, thanks for checking out the video and please share. Your feedback is greatly appreciated.
I did see your earlier post as I was perusing the thread and it peaked my interest for the reasons you stated. I need to spend more time to understand it better and I plan check out all of the links you provided today. I have taken a quick look at the time lapse and it’s fascinating.
It is ultimately all about the energy, so I’ll try to learn more about ERA5. Thanks to you for sharing it in the thread.
This has long been my description of what occurs in the atmosphere. One of the processes that is never discussed by warmists is the fact that as O2 and N2 are warmed by collisions, they convect just like H2O. Lots of heat is transported upwards for radiation higher in the atmosphere.
Will there ever be a way to reliably attribute a planet-wide warming trend to human emissions of CO2 from using fossil fuels?
It is quite simple. There is no measurable impact on the energy balance. If you do not believe that then explain how CO2 is causing cloud to reduce at all latitudes apart from a few degrees north of the Equator where it has increased over this century. ?ssl=1
As you can see from the CERES data, SWR is down everywhere except the region just north of the Equator and a tiny region of Antarctica. OLR does the opposite but not quite so much as the SWR so the net retention is 1.1W/m^2 accepting that CERES instruments can be calibrated to this accuracy.
Regulation of energy in and out is controlled by the phase changes of water on land and in the atmosphere. The upper limit is regulated by convective instability and only the atmospheric mass and properties of water play a role here. The addition of fossil carbon has made negligible contribution to the mass so negligible contribution to the energy balance.
The real changes are the axis precession cycle and the solar output now approaching a modern optimum similar to what occurred during the peak of the Roman Empire.
Absolutely in agreement. We came to the same conclusion about water in our work.
Richard Greene
July 21, 2024 3:25 am
I recommend articles by Jay Valentine on the subject of Democrat election fraud.
His latest article was a simple explanation of the problem. (see link below)
His estimates of excessive names on state voter rolls of up to 500,000 names per state may be somewhat too high.
He includes state residents who moved to a different location within the state but never changed their voter registration address. That makes no difference in a Presidential or Senate election, but could affect the House election and local elections.
Valentine’s numbers do not yet include many illegal aliens being registered to vote. The best timing to register them is after August 7. After August 7 (90 days before election). there are no mass deletions allowed from state voter rolls. Every name believed to be wrong must be challenged individually. The investigations, if there are any, will rarely happen before the election.
There will be many millions of names on state registered voter rolls that are all potential illegal votes for Biden … or whoever the Dumbocrat is. Maybe Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris?
Absentee ballots make the fraud easy if post office employees cooperate.
Let’s say there are 27 voters registered at a 7/11 store. 27 ballots could be sent to that store. The store owner, employees, mail carrier etc. could sell those ballots to a leftist NGO or give them away.
If Trump is leading by less a few percentage points in a swing state, it is still possible that illegal votes will show up and cause him to lose that state. Just like in 2020 ballot dumps AFTER midnight on election day in Detroit, Atlanta, Milwaukee and Pheonix.
Project 2025 is a conservative thinktank’s version of what should be done in the future, according to their particular version of conservatism.
Trump had nothing to do with formulating the 2025 plan and has serious disagreements with some of the policies.
Trump has his own polices. Good, common-sense policies like stopping the EV mandates and stopping the “Green New Scam” (as he calls it), and reducing taxes and regulations, and “drill, baby, drill!”.
The Democrats seize on a conservative thinktank’s writings and find some policies to not be acceptable to a mojority of Americans, such as their position on abortion, and the Democrats then claim Trump supports this extreme abortion position, when Trump specifically does not agree with their policy.
But you wouldn’t know that if all you listen to are the lying Democrats. They lie about everything, esepcially where it concerns Trump.
Trump is not a radical, despite what the Democrats say. It is the Democrats who are the radicals.
His party is still working torwards abortion bans – so wether he likes it or not, he doesn’t seem to have influence on the party. And therefor voting for him will bring their policies, wouldn’t it?
Trump, I believe, supports abortion up to the 16th week of pregnancy, similiar to what is in force in Europe.
Trump does call some people vermin. Some people *are* vermin.
Trump was cheated out of an election. Many of the State Electors were not elected legally, they were elected without State legislative approval. There is no doubt about this. So if illegal State Electors elect Joe Biden, then Trump should feel like he was cheated.
Trump tried to have these illegal State Electors rejected by the U.S. Congress (like the Democrats did to him in 2016) but Vice President Pence didn’t want any part of this controversy even if it ended up with Joe Biden being elected. There were alternatate State Electors that Trump wanted to be accepted as the legitimate electors, but that didn’t happen due to personal cowardice on the part of Pence.
Chris Wallace is a leftwing propagandist. It was two against one in that debate.
So tell me, what does Trump mean when he says “stand back and stand by”?
Does he mean “stand back”? He said it. Maybe you are jumping to conclusions about Trump’s meaning. Democrats do that a lot in their efforts to demonize Trump.
And Trump specifically denounced Proud Boys and White Supremacists in his Charlotteville speech. You know, the one where the Democrats claimed he called them “very good people”. Of course, that’s a lie and anyone who listened to the speech would know it is a lie because Trump specifically condemned them. But that doesn’t matter to Democrats. They spread the lie anyway hoping gullible people will believe them.
You couldn’t find enough Rightwing extremists in this nation to fill up a football stadium. They have zero influence on the Republican Party. The Democrats build them up to be a huge problem and try to hang that around Trump’s neck. It’s all part of the demonization effort. And it’s all a Big Lie.
Right wing Republicans, have every right to express their views at the ballot box. If it results in an abortion ban in a state, so be it. If you don’t like it, either move or work to change the law.
Rememer, the U.S. was created by individual states, each of which had different and sundry expectations. The states reserved many powers to themselves. Like it or not, that is the current state of law in the United States.
You apparently want a national law whereby abortion is allowed anywhere at any time in gestation or after, paid for federally. It is up to you to convince the U.S. Congress to pass and the President to sign a Federal law doing so.
When you want a national law that applies to everyone, you are removing the ability of people in states to judge for themselves what the law should be. That my friend, is authoritarianism personified. Telling everyone how to live and what they should do.
Neither Trump nor the Supreme Court changed any law. The Supreme Court simply vacated a prior ruling that was never specifically enumerated in either the Constitution or Federal Law. Many of us believe that the Supreme Court was wrong originally because the Supreme Court simply can’t make up law out of whole cloth. If the U.S. ever comes to that, we are doomed. There is a prescribed methods in the Constitution to either amend it or for Congress/President to pass a law. That is how a change should be handled and leave the Supreme Court free to judge actual written law.
And who didn’t see that coming?
At the last minute The Dems will blame Brandon for all their failed policies BUT, at the last minute, a Dem will arise from the ashes to continue the same failed policies.
(Maybe RFK Jr. will rejoin the ranks? … after a sufficient pause where no one wants Kamal either?)
😎
There are some in the MSM that are saying, “He wasn’t really shot.”!
(I suppose Hollywood supplied him with a fake blood pack to slap on his ear.
OH! And he set up a couple of people to die for a few votes. Donald’s last name is not Clinton.)
You may be conflating absentee ballots with vote-by-mail. Absentee ballots must br requested by the voter. For vote by mail, the election office blindly mails ballot to each registered voter.
Vote by mail is outlawed in most countries. It’s an open invitation for voter fraud. The Democrats don’t have to try hard to steal an election where vote by mail is legal.
Here in Ohio, last time I did absentee, A copy of my birth certificate, driver’s license, utility bill, and others. Not ALL of them but some verification of ID was required with the the request for an absentee ballot before it was even sent out.
Vote by mail for federal elections is allowed in in eight states. But not in the swing states that helped Biden in 2020.
If everyone on the voter rolls automatically receives a ballot by mail, fraud is even easier than in states where people have to request an absentee ballot.
The state voter roll fraud can be done with on site poling place voting when there is no ID required to cast a vote.
Every name on the list is able to vote whether the vote is legal or not.
No proof of being a US citizen is required for federal vote registrations. The person must check a box and sign his or her name. That is proof of nothing. A recount does not catch this problem.
Eight states—California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont and Washington and the District of Columbia—allow all elections to be conducted entirely by mail.
Two states—Nebraska and North Dakota—permit counties to opt into conducting elections by mail.
IIRC it was the electoral office of Michigan that when asked if they checked that the returned ballots that were automatically bulk-mailed out to everyone on drivers license, welfare etc databases were cross-checked to confirm citizenship, they replied –
“not our job”
In my previous reply, I should have added that Ohio “purges” their voter rolls.
That is, if a name doesn’t show as having voted in the last 6 elections (Maybe the last 6 years?), that name is dropped from the voter roll.
A notice is sent out in plenty of time before they are actually dropped so they can re-register in their district.
(Fewer of the dead still vote in Ohio by absentee or “in person”.)
Correction.
They need to respond OR they will then need to re-register.
Ireneusz
July 21, 2024 3:48 am
Changes in the strength of the sun’s magnetic field affect the climate through changes in the ozone zone. The resulting changes in the circulation of the jet stream lead to major climate changes, especially at mid-latitudes, as happened during the Little Ice Age. The cooling will mainly affect North and South America in winter, due to the weakening of the geomagnetic field. UVB radiation, on the other hand, which is high-energy, may increase and raise temperatures in sunny regions. http://wso.stanford.edu/gifs/Polar.gif
Ireneusz
July 21, 2024 4:02 am
For some reason, ozone waves are appearing over the Indian Ocean. They initially form in the upper stratosphere in the region of the great geomagnetic anomaly in the South Atlantic and move toward Australia in the lower layers of the stratosphere (opposite to the Earth’s rotation). Ozone is a heavy gas (much heavier than O2 and N2), so when ozone concentrations are high in a region, air pressure in the stratosphere increases and pressure in the troposphere rises.
Ozone is diamagnetic, so it is repelled by a strong geomagnetic field. During the winter season, ozone in the stratosphere is directed toward the polar circle and at the same time repelled by the strong geomagnetic field over the pole. Therefore, it accumulates in regions with a weakened geomagnetic field.
The weakening of the earth’s magnetic field is what I am concerned about in terms of near term climate change. I am surprised it doesn’t get more attention. Magnetic storms on the sun of a given level are now having a greater impact on the Earth because of the weakening of the magnetic field. The Swarm data shows that the Earth may currently be losing 5% of its magnetic field strength per decade. I expect this to become a front page story in time.
Here in Wokeachusetts- as published in a local paper.
House climate and clean energy legislation passes
GOP opposes bill that blends siting reforms with new clean energy procurement plans
By SAM DRYSDALE
State House News Service
BOSTON — The Massachusetts House was split along party lines Wednesday night in voting to support climate and energy legislation that would “help accelerate the green transition,” according to the bill’s lead architect.
“The bill before you continues this commitment to empower municipalities as trusted partners and foster local control. It will bring local expertise and innovation to the table and will help accelerate the green transition,” Rep. Jeff Roy, chair of the Committee on Telecommunications, Utilities and Energy, said during opening floor remarks on Wednesday afternoon.
The bill passed around 7:30 p.m. on a 131-25 vote with every Republican in the chamber opposing the legislation although no Republican stood to speak on the bill at any point during Wednesday’s hours-long deliberations.
Climate change is often pointed to by public officials as a major issue facing society, but few Democrats opted to publicly debate or discuss the bill, with only two legislators making brief statements on amendments that were quickly approved.
The 107 amendments to the bill were dealt with quickly and without much debate. Roy spoke at length about the details in the underlying bill that is meant to simplify and limit the duration of permitting processes to ensure that new clean energy infrastructure can be built.
Roy cited clean energy infrastructure delays stretching from five to ten years, and “the often duplicative processes and the inaccessible proceedings for host communities.”
Rep. Steven Owens of Watertown spoke in favor of the bill, saying that each of those years of delay to permit new clean infrastructure is another year of climate change worsening.
Owens wore a tie with blue and red stripes. He said each thin line represented a year over the last century demonstrating Massachusetts’ temperature, with blue stripes representing colder than average years and red stripes for years when temperatures were high.
“From last session, I’ve had to add two more red stripes. Two more years hotter than average, and two more hotter than ever,” he said. “We don’t have to wait for clean energy projects. This bill will help streamline the permitting process. We’ve heard of projects taking up to 10 years going through permitting and review. Ten years of red tape, 10 years of more red stripes, 10 hotter than normal years.”
Owens spoke about a section of the bill modeled after a bill he filed to allow natural gas companies to sell and distribute utility scale non-emitting thermal energy, including network geothermal and deep geothermal energy.
He said by changing the definition of a gas company, National Grid and Eversource could more easily launch new pilot programs to generate energy through ground source heat pumps, and the language “keeps the doors open for other innovations beyond geothermal.”
The provision will help “future-proof the utilities and the industry writ large,” Owens said.
In his opening remarks, Roy discussed highlights of the bill, including: consolidating permitting at both the local and state levels, setting 12- to 15-month limits for the issuance of all final permitting decisions; streamlining the appeals process; establishing community engagement requirements for developers; creating guidance on the suitability of sites for future energy infrastructure development.
It would also clearly delineate between local and state authority to approve these infrastructure projects, allowing small clean energy projects under 25 megawatts and small energy storage systems under 100 megawatts to be under the control of a municipality, which would be required to issue a final decision within a year of receiving a permit application. The bill includes a number of provisions to provide resources and technical support to municipalities who need state approval for projects, or to do their own local reviews.
The Healey administration helped craft the siting and permitting reforms in the House and Senate bills with input from top lawmakers.
The Senate took up its version of the bill in late June and sent it to the House on July 1.
Though both branches agree on the need to reform the siting and permitting process, the House bill calls for the procurement of 9.45 million megawatt-hours of clean energy, including from nuclear generation, as well as 5,000 megawatts of energy storage — neither of which feature in the Senate bill.
The Senate bill includes changes to the wind procurement process that the House dropped in their version.
Couldn’t get all of it here in one post – here’s the rest
“What they sent was a far more expansive bill beyond the siting and permitting work, and contained some provisions that have not been subject of public hearings,” Roy said during his Wednesday speech. “So it required more study and an expansive response.”
With approval from both chambers, the bill will now likely head to conference committee where negotiators will have less than two weeks to come to a compromise before the end of formal sessions for this two-year term.
Roy and Barrett made headlines earlier this session by having such significant disagreements that they conducted hearings on energy policy separately, rather than function as a joint committee. If a compromise surfaces after July 31, any single opponent of the bill could block it from advancing during the regular informal sessions that will be held over the last five months of 2024.
Feel I’m goin’ back to Massachusetts. Something’s telling me I must go home.
And the lights all went out in Massachusetts.
And Massachusetts is one place I have seen
I will remember Massachusetts.
The Massachusetts House was split along party lines Wednesday night in voting to support climate and energy legislation
Hardly woke when you have an opposition voting against such nonsense. Australia and UK politics have no opposition to the madness. It is just a matter of degree. The UK just voted to accelerate the madness.
Australian State oppositions just offer faster transitions. The Federal opposition is offering a slightly different transition.
Except that the state legislature is something like 90% Democrat- so if split on party lines, means nothing. And, those Republicans are probably in opposition just to go along with the national party. I don’t think a single one actually dares to vigorously oppose the woke policies.
We’re heading for a similar collapse to 1177 BC. All the ingredients are there. A naturally changing climate, pandemics CV19 and now H5N1 apparently, supply chain issues, computer systems falling over in a more and more cashless society, mass migration across the Mediterranean and you can probably think of a few more.
I couldn’t be happier about the CrowdStrike crap. I use MS and they forced me to go from the old MS mail system to the new Outlook. The new Outlook is worse than the old MS Mail.
BUT when CrowdStrike went down they apparently took the NEW outlook down with them and I now have the OLD MS Mail program back. LOLOLOL
Now if they only just leave it alone, It appears the new Outlook is LESS stable and secure than the old MS Mail.
The collapse was associated with the end of of the medieval climate optimum. The optimums are associated with half periods of the 1680 year gravitational cycle of the sun. It was also during a period when the axial precession of Earth was reducing peak sunlight over global land.
We are not yet at the end of the present optimum and peak solar is increasing in the NH. As well as increasing sunlight over the land mass, both CO2 and atmospheric water have strong upward trends so that all favours improving agricultural outcomes.
The Mediterranean is reaching monsoon conditions, which pumps a lot more water over Northern Africa.
The biggest threats now are man made rather than climate. Notably the demonisation of fossil fuels and the various wars.
Trump surviving the bullet was a positive outcome. This time around he is better placed to clean up the swamp. Maybe he will be a positive influence on the peace process. He should shift the UN to Africa. I expect that will reduce its burden and influence substantially.
Study after Study proofing renewables are the best way forward. More and more countries go renewable. Guess reality is trolling now. And please tell me how this “we build nuclear in australia” is not trolling a whole continent. It may have been an option 30 years ago – and even then economics were against it.
Nah, “cheap” solar is the stuff that gets sold fresh on fine, sunny days.
It’s the solar stuff that gets sold at night and on dim cloudy days that costs an arm and a leg.
Apparently it needs some special treatment and storage to make it usable before it goes off.
Why can’t they just freeze-dry it if it’s that perishable?
How does nuclear “shut off” solar at night or on a overcast day ??
Someone is very confused. !
Grid wind and solar are NOT cheap.. It is environmentally destructive and economically very expensive, because it disrupts the stability of the electricity supply system.
Everywhere there is a significant infection of wind and solar on the grid, electricity costs skyrocket because the cost of providing electricity when they fail to supply becomes greater and greater.
They are parasitic JUNK, sucking on, and destroying the grid supply system.
If they get away with all the wind industrial estates in Queensland, it will mean the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of large areas of pristine rainforest and gorgeous scenery.
This is apparently what “Queensland Conservation” WANTS to happen !
These are the so-called upper lows at an altitude of 5,000 meters. These are closed loops of the jet stream with a trapped mass of cold air. At their outskirts, lows form at an altitude of about 850 hPa. Stream currents operate , even up to an altitude of 3,000 meters (700 hPa), forming highs and lows in the lower troposphere.
This is what the jet current looks like in the tropopause, where the wind is by far the strongest. https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/250hPa/orthographic=-110.31,86.35,350
He tried. Trump got rid of Obama’s Clean Power Plan that would have made coal plants uneconomical. Biden reversed that. Without the GHG penalties imposed on coal generators by regulation they would come roaring back. It’s regulation, not economics, that kills coal. Look at China.they are still building out plenty of coal powered generation
“Trump got rid of Obama’s Clean Power Plan that would have made coal plants uneconomical.”
Yes, Trump saved my local coal-fired power plant. Obama and Biden wanted to convert it to natual gas, but that stopped when Trump was elected.
During the blackout in Texas and surrounding areas in February 2021, our local coal plant kept chugging right along, despite the cold weather, and we didn’t have any blackouts or brownouts around here.
Donald Trump is a self-serving blowhard of epic proportions.
His rambling speeches are filled with lies, exaggerations and many promises that will never be kept. The speeches are like a comedy act.
Based on his speeches, Trump is the best President in American history who had the best economy in American history. In fact, Real GDP growth under Trump was the worst for a four year term since Herbert Hoover in the 1930s.
If one compiled a list of everything Trump claims he will get done on “day one”, it would be possible for Trump to retire on day two!
Meanwhile, CO2 remained a pollutant throughout all four Trump years as President from January 2017 through January 2021, and the Keystone pipeline extension only got 8% completed.
The worst problem, in my opinion, is that conservative media never fact check Trump. They let him get away with constant BSing in his speeches.
I spent an hour searching for an honest conservative fact check article of Trump’s acceptance speech. Similar to my search for a good fact check article for the Trump portion of the debate with Biden. My time was wasted. I had to recommend CNN fact checking articles on Trump because at least they made an effort. They were biased against Trump but not too much
Here is the CNN fact check of the Trump acceptance speech, which was far too long and contain far too many lies an exaggerations.
It looks like the 2024 election will be between a self promoting narcissistic blowhard and dementia Joe. The low quality of those two choices is disappointing. Neither man has a history of reducing the size and spending of the federal government.
THERE WERE TWO OT THREE SHOOTERS .
This video shows Shots 1, 2 and 3 were definitely fired by Crooks on the roof. These shots have echos.
Shot 1 went through Trump’s ear, travelled further to injure a person in the stand.
Shots 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 were fired by a different weapon through an open window at lower location. These shots sound muffled and have no echos, because they are inside the building.
One of these shots was meant for Trump, but hit a person high in the stand, meaning it was fired from a lower position than Crook’s. It when through the person and vaporized on the metal railing.
Shot 9 was fired by the Secret Service sniper on the roof 15.8 seconds after Shot 1; it killed Crooks.
Until the China Virus, TRUMP! was pulling the US out of the 8 year intentionally drawn out great recession created by the actions of Obama and the congress while he still had control of both houses.
As to TRUMP! getting nothing done, it was not for the lack of trying but with the control of both houses of congress by the K Street lobbyist controlled majority especially Paul Ryan as House Speaker, he could not get much done the first two years. Then the China Virus and Democrat control of the House.
SO I must assume you support the control of the federal government by the monied power brokers as has happened the last 3 1/2 years under Brandon’s handlers??
Three shooters?
I don’t know about that.
The perp had a demi… er…semi-automatic.
The “rules of engagement” required a shot to be fired before a lethal response was allowed. (Seems like a “warning shot” would have been OK but it didn’t happen.)
One thing is clear, the Secret Service failed miserably to provide adequate protection for an ex-president, being a candidate should have made no difference. (What does Obama’s SS detail look like?)
PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS; THERE WERE THREE OR MORE SHOOTERS . The perimeter of Secret Service protection zone excluded the building where Crooks was lying on the roof, with a direct line of fire to Trump, and several nearby buildings, with windows, also with a direct line of fire to Trump.
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Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday. The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone. The local police chief said (was told by the FBI) 8 cases were found near Crook’s body . Per CNN report . The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final “acoustic impulse” was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution. . Audio analysis has also confirmed, the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher. . This conclusion aligns with CNN’s analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out. . The shots exemplify a “crack-pop” sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the “arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound,” . Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN. . The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second. . The acoustic signature shows Shots 1, 2, and 3 appear to be fired INSIDE the building; no echos The supersonic shockwave of Shot 1 arrived at a mic near Trump in 0.18 second. The muzzle sound took another 0.22 second to arrive at that mic Bullet travel time 0.40 second, i.e., about 0.4 x 1000 = 400 ft to the target Shot 2 was fired 1.04 second later, and Shot 3, 1.72 second later . Trump had tilted his head to look at a chart, felt the impact of Shot 1 on his ear, raised his hand to his ear, looked at the blood, and ducked, all within about 1.5 second, which caused Shot 2 and 3 to miss. . Secret Service people surrounded Trump within about 2 to 3 seconds, and held him down for about 20 seconds, until the “all-clear” was given. . Shots 4 through 8 require further analysis; all missed Trump . Shot 9 was fired by the highly visible Secret Service sniper on the roof behind Trump about 15.8 second after Shot 1; the bullet entered above Crook’s left eyebrow. . A skull contains brain matter, plus about a gallon of blood. The shockwave would blow the back part of a skull in pieces, with blood, etc., over a large area of the roof. A nearby bystander mentioned “they blew his head off” The aerial photo shows the body and a clean roof. . A few days later, an FBI person was seen hosing down the roof. . Why did it take an eternity for the SS sniper to fire? Did he know more shots would be coming? Was he told to wait for more shots?
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A botched hit with more than one shooter. You can watch it Full Screen on X Chris Martenson, PhD on X: “https://t.co/pHtnPNKz69” / X .
Did you find a CNN fact check about Biden’s assertion that
“there were no soldiers killed in my term as president”
(apart from the 13 US military personnel lives sacrificed during the botched Afghan withdrawal, which Biden later claimed was advised by Gen Milley, who rejected Biden’s claim)
The CNN fact check on Biden in the debate was biased — they went too easy on him. But Biden lies so often it would be easier to list the statements he made that were true.
Biden really rescued those 13 killed because his botched Afghan withdrawal.
He hid them in his 18 wheeler.
They were going to march out on stage during Dem Convention.
But then he dropped out because he missed a Covid booster or two. (He should have listened to Fauci.)
We’ll never see those 13 alive again.
Either way, Thanks to Brandon.
I voted for Trump in 2020 and will vote for him again in 2024.
No one could be worse than Biden. He won’t be running in 2024 so maybe Kamala Harris will be the other choice. She might be worse than our current President Jill Biden … I mean Joe Biden.
NBC is just now reporting that Joe Manchin might throw his hat in the ring.
As an initial shot just know that Joe Manchin portrays himself as a moderate and an independent, but he has voted almost 100 percent in favor of radical Democrat Biden legislation, so in reality, Joe Manchin is just as radical as every other Democrat.
I don’t even think the Democrats will go big for Manchin.
Manchin would say he opposed of what the Dems were doing, but when it came to an actual vote….
He reminded me of Ohio’s Republican ex-rep and governor. “You can count on Kasich until it counts.”
“Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve – And never was! He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement. All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t – And now, look what he’s done to our Country, with millions of people coming across our Border, totally unchecked and unvetted, many from prisons, mental institutions, and record numbers of terrorists. We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
“Based on his speeches, Trump is the best President in American history who had the best economy in American history. In fact, Real GDP growth under Trump was the worst for a four year term since Herbert Hoover in the 1930s.”
You conveniently ignore, just like the Democrats do, the pandemic and its effects on the economy. The reality is it is a miracle the U.S. economy did as good as it did under the circumstances and it was all due to Trump’s efforts.
You should cite the economic statistics before the pandemic appeared. They *were* the best in U.S. history. Then the pandemic hit and the economy shut down and unemployment went from three percent to over 13 percent in a matter of months, and after the efforts of Trump to keep the economy going by spending lots of money to keep people in jobs (which you condemn as worthless) Trump reduced the unemployment rate from over 13 percent to less than seven percent in a matter of months.
As a comparison, the Obama-Biden administration took eight years to reduce the unemployment rate by three percent.
You are cherry-picking your data just like the Democrat liars do. I suspect TDS is involved.
“You should cite the economic statistics before the pandemic appeared. They *were* the best in U.S. history.” No they weren’t Tom. Never at any time has Trump had the best economic data.He lies. You know that.
Trump is right that African-American unemployment hit a record low in December. The unemployment rate for black Americans is currently 6.8 percent, the lowest level recorded since the government started keeping track in January 1972.
And he’s also right that the Hispanic unemployment rate is down a point over the last year — it was at 4.9 percent in December, down from 5.9 percent in December 2016. That is close to a record low, though it’s also up 0.1 point from November.
But still, fact check: true on Trump’s numbers.
However, that’s not all Trump is doing in this tweet. He is implying that he caused these low African-American and Hispanic unemployment rates.”
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Well, you know NPR is not going to have anything good to say about Trump. Judge for yourself. The numbers are clear and indisputable. NPR wants to pretend Trump had nothing to do with the numbers, just like a good Democrat propaganda outfit would do.
All presidents take credit for job increases on their watch, including Joe Biden. Joe Biden even took credit for jobs created during Trump’s last quarter in office, where 500,000 jobs were created. Joe was quick to claim credit for them even though he was not in office when they were created. That’s how dishonest Joe Biden is.
As you can see from the NPR reporting above, Simon, Trump did in fact preside over record low unempolyment numbers for blacks and hispanics in 2018, and these numbers went lower as time went along, and included all demographic groups, until the Covid Pandemic hit in early 2020.
Presidents can do things that enhance economic activity and they can do things that inhibit economic activity. Trump enhanced economic activity by cutting taxes, and cutting regulations and by making energy production one of his main focuses. All of these things enhanced economic activity. The Trump tax cuts that the Democrats decried, actually resulted in the U.S. Treasury receiving tens of billions of dollars more because of the increased economic activity stimulated by the tax cuts. So Trump has a legitimate claim that his actions helped the unempolyment rate.
Joe Biden, on the other hand, did just the opposite of what Trump did, and inhibited economic activity in numerous ways, and we now have double-digit inflation, high interest rates, and companies laying off employees by the thousands and some closing up shop.
The people of America are still reeling from the crushing Biden inflation and the illegal immigration Biden and the Democrats are enabling.
Kamala is the Border Czar. We’ll have to ask her about that now that she is running for president.
So you site one racial groups unemployment as proof Trump had the greatest economy ever? Sorry Tom that is one metric. Even though he says it, Trump never had the best US economy. Trump lies, you know that. And Biden’s economy is not the best ever either. But he is doing pretty well with inflation down and wages up and unemployment down. The stock market doing very well too. But Biden is gone now.
Yes! I’m going to be watching the hearings tomorrow. The Secret Service Director has angered a lot of Republicans with her refusal to answer questions about the attempted assasination.
She won’t be able to run away from them tomorrow, although I suppose she can still refuse to answer. I did see where one Democrat is already calling for her to resign. I expect more will follow.
In my quest to model Stratospheric Water Vapor from aviation exhaust and its effect on climate, it appears that the Battle of Britain heated, the oceans, and then US involvement. The same for the Korean war. But the 60’s oh my, a massive strato-volcanics SO2 event, with large anthropogenic Stratospheric H2O emissions, but with some very high Stratospheric particulate loads (B-52s) caused very large perturbations.
Does anyone know of a source for the best lower stratospheric compilation of a weather ballon dataset?
The great climate shift of 1977 is global Aviations forcing emerging from the B52 smoke forcing of the Vietnam War. The trend diverges from the solar trend, and at 2000 the weakened Sun and the aviation exhaust rates were constructively interfering (the pause). Then humanity pushed stratospheric water vapor emissions to unsustainable levels and caused the warming of the last decade.
Two early eruptions Askja 1875 and Tarawera 1886 both had similar injections of water vapor into the stratosphere. Tarawera is unique because it was a huge ash and water vapor event, and you can see on the response the ash rained out sooner than the water vapors warming effects dissipated.
Stop aviation, back of the napkin indicates global temperatures will drop by 1.25 C in 3-4 years.
If aviation stopped the world’s population would likely become unsustainable.
Trump calls her “laffin’ Kamala”. Trump even told us how to spell it.
Trump says Kamala will be easier to beat than Biden. I think so, too. And I think that because of that, the Democrats are going to try to oust Kamala next.
She is like getting the candles for free when you buy a birthday cake at the store. The important thing is the cake, even though the candles come with it.
Simon
July 21, 2024 11:53 am
Phew… so who will replace Joe?
I think it will be Kamala. Not saying I want her, but I think she is in the best position to get the job. So many questions now…..
Funny that the OLD guy TRUMP! pissed off all the leftist news media because his 90 plus minute acceptance speech kept them up past their bedtime, LOLOLOL.
That was pretty funny! All these leftwing reporters complaining about the length of Trump’s speech.
And then they want to claim it makes Trump into a Hitler clone since Hitler used to give long speeches. The Democrats are desperate to demonize Trump. It’s probably what got him shot.
A Trump speech is a “Tour de Force”. He hits every topic.
“The Democrats are desperate to demonize Trump. It’s probably what got him shot.”
Your words are dangerous and untrue Tom. The shooter was a registered republican. His house had Trump banners over the lawn at times. He was known as a conservative at school.
But actually his political affiliation does not override the fact he was a disturbed young man living in a house full of available guns. That is a recipe for disaster.
Strangely, nothing has been said about the political affiliations of the shooter’s parents. Both of them are apparently counselors. I’d be surprised to discover that they were conservatives.
In addition to the former president, Crooks had searched online about President Joe Biden and had photos on his phone of other prominent figures from both parties.
He searched for the location of Trump’s rally as well as the upcoming Democratic National Convention, the briefing notes say, and discovered that Trump planned to appear just an hour’s drive away from his home in the Pittsburgh suburbs.
That suggests Crooks may have been looking to carry out a high-profile shooting, and the Trump event’s proximity and timing offered the most accessible opportunity, federal officials have speculated.
You have overlooked the fact that the gun was owned by the father, and his kid took it without his permission (if not, the father is in a lot of trouble).
Guns were available in the home I grew up in. I would never have considered using one of my father’s firearms without his permission even for legal activities, let alone something that is a heinous crime. Before I was the shooters age I owned my own guns, and never once shot anybody.
There is an old saying that “The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.” The other way that can be expressed is that the apple on the ground tells us a lot about the tree it came from — as with Hunter Biden. In any event, these professional counselors did a poor job of raising their son. They failed to realize their son was “screwed up.” If they did realize it, they failed to correct it. Perhaps because they shared some of the same problems and were therefore blind to it being a defect in their son. They may realize it now that his actions led to his death.
“You have overlooked the fact that the gun was owned by the father, “ No I haven’t. Guns were in the house. Crazy kid wants gun. Crazy kid takes gun. Shoots trump. Remove gun. Remove ability to shoot Trump. Seriously….. it is not rocket science.
But it isPrior Restraint, which the courts have consistently held is unconstitutional with respect to at least the First Amendment. That is, you would have his father, and all other fathers, deprived of the right to own something based on what they or their children might do with it.
Be careful what you wish for. Explosive devices were found in the kid’s car. Had they been his only option, far more people might well have been killed and maimed. It is not the first time that shooters had also built bombs, but chose to not immediately use them, and were neutralized before they tried to detonate them. Something has to be done to reduce the level of craziness in society, and identify the crazies before they have a chance to act out their craziness. Your preferred course of action would result in ignoring the relatively new and growing problem of craziness in exchange for people being unable to protect themselves against criminals and risk the possibility of being the victim of a bomb.
The signs could have been a way to ‘fit in’ in a conservative neighborhood, or a mischeavous prank by some of the shooter’s former bullies. Who knows why the signs were allegedly there? Personally, I wonder why anyone puts signs in their yard. I consider voting to be a very private act.
A psychopath can be any political pursuasion or none at all.
If you keep calling someone Hitler and say he is going to destroy Democracy and the U.S. Constitution, like the Democrats constantly do with Trump, then you are going to agitate some psychopaths in the general public to the point that they act out violently.
This guy Crooks, is a perfect example of a school shooter or a mass shooter. He fits the template. He was bullied all his life, which turned him into a social misfit, just like all the other shooters, and he finally acted out on it.
His motives remain unknown, but I’m sure his mental condition was harmed by what he heard and read in the Democrat mass media.
Maybe the Secret Service will know his motive and disclose it today in the hearings.
“If you keep calling someone Hitler and say he is going to destroy Democracy and the U.S. Constitution, like the Democrats constantly do with Trump, then you are going to agitate some psychopaths in the general public to the point that they act out violently.”
I am so pleased you posted this Tom because …. I once called you on making racist remarks. You defended yourself by saying they are not racist if they are true. OK, well then, for the same reason I 100% defend anyone who says Trump is like Hitler. He has many comparisons. Calling people vermin is so Hitler like. The way Trump plays the crowds at his rallies is very Hitler like. The way he senses what the crowd want to hear is exactly what Hitler did. The way he riffs and feeds on hate. The way he plays on racial denigration.
And how is someone who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power not a threat to democracy?
“This guy Crooks, is a perfect example of a school shooter or a mass shooter. He fits the template. He was bullied all his life, which turned him into a social misfit, just like all the other shooters, and he finally acted out on it.”
Thank you. My point exactly. His political affiliations are irrelevant here. Give a crazy a gun and they shoot.
“His motives remain unknown, but I’m sure his mental condition was harmed by what he heard and read in the Democrat mass media.”
So are you saying that a politicians and the media should temper what they say about others? OK let’s start with the vile insults Trump threw out yesterday when Biden resigned.Biden a broken, but brave man stood down for the good of his party and country. Most opponents would have had the decency to STFU at this time. Not Trump, he puts the boot in…. “We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
“He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement,”
“All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t.”
So sorry Tom, you have absolutely no right to complain about Trump being called on his actions when you support a man who says stuff like this, at a time like this….
The way Trump plays the crowds at his rallies is very Hitler like. The way he senses what the crowd want to hear is exactly what Hitler did.
So being good at playing crowds at rallies is Hitler-like? Is liking dogs Hitler-like? Is being a vegetarian Hitler-like? That’s a ridiculous comparison that would include most strong public speakers.
The way he riffs and feeds on hate. The way he plays on racial denigration.
That’s how the MSM presents it, not necessarily the truth.
And how is someone who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power not a threat to democracy?
DID HE STEP DOWN? Doesn’t seem very hitler-like.
Now, what about all the hysterical screaming about how he’s a threat to our very freedom and the fabric of the country? That’s he’s going to take away all women’s rights? That he’s going to throw people into concentration camps?
“Calling people vermin is so Hitler like.” How deplorable !!
Deplorable a whole lot better than vermin. We kill vermin we just laugh at deplorables.
Biden is great at putting crowds to sleep.
Newsflash Biden is no longer running. But even as a crowd pacifier he beat Trump. What does that say about the Donald?
Kamala great at giggling like a teenage twit !
Just so you know…..I am so hoping that this black woman can beat Trump. It will bring me unmeasurable joy. The fascist, sexist, criminal con man beaten by the black, female, prosecutor.
It is a politician’s job to engage the crowd, Obama did it well.
I have no issue with Trumps skill to capture a crowd. Good on him. It’s what he does with that skill that I have issue with.
Most of the racism and societal division comes from the far-left, woke, marxist Democrats.
Really? Let’s see what level of racism and sexism flows from the right over the next few months. You started it well with your “giggling” sexist comment. Own goal I’d say…..
I am so hoping that this black woman can beat Trump. It will bring me unmeasurable joy.
You make it sound as though you are more concerned about having your twisted sense of justice satisfied than you are about having the most competent person elected. That seems to be a characteristic of the Left: more concern over appearance and symbolism than support for meritocracy. It explains a lot about how England has gone from being a world power to a has-been, also ran society.
“Calling people vermin is so Hitler like.
Willing to hold everyone to the same standard?”
Sure. Name a democrat leader who has used a term that lowers human beings to the status of hated animals?
“So being good at playing crowds at rallies is Hitler-like?” No. There is a specific way Hitler, as a populist, worked out what the crowd wanted to hear and went with it. Trump does it. It can be used for good or evil. When Trump starts going down the racial hatred path with this strategy it is vile.
The way he riffs and feeds on hate. The way he plays on racial denigration.
That’s how the MSM presents it, not necessarily the truth.
It’s the truth. We have all seen him do it. “They are sending people from their mental institutions….” “They are rapists….”
“Now, what about all the hysterical screaming about how he’s a threat to our very freedom and the fabric of the country?” He absolutely is. He tried to stop the transfer of power with no evidence whats so ever. He made up the whole the election is stolen thing. As Steve Bannon said before the election. If Trump loses he will say the election was stolen. He had it planned all before the election took place. What more evidence do you need?
I’m only going to address that last point, Simon, because that it the biggest issue.
It’s been pointed out that he used LEGAL means – that is, worked within the system – to challenge the results of the election (I know you will disagree, there is no convincing you otherwise). Whatever he THINKS about the election, in the end he abided by its results.
He made up the whole the election is stolen thing.
So? Hillary has said the same about 2016. Even if you dismiss that, are you saying that a politicians opinion about an election is a threat to democracy and freedom?
If Trump loses he will say the election was stolen.
Again, a politicians opinion is a threat to freedom?
Funny, though – it’s not what he’ll do if he loses that’s framed as the threat, but what he’ll supposedly do if he wins. You are arguing the opposite.
What more evidence do you need?
How about evidence “That’s he’s going to take away all women’s rights? That he’s going to throw people into concentration camps?” if he wins?
If someone is an ACTUAL threat to our democracy and freedom, then it follows that he MUST be stopped or our lives are at stake. THAT is the most dangerous rhetoric. But again, you won’t accept that. You are participating in the rhetoric.
“It’s been pointed out that he used LEGAL means – that is, worked within the system – to challenge the results of the election (I know you will disagree, there is no convincing you otherwise). Whatever he THINKS about the election, in the end he abided by its results.”
Haha you are kidding right. Tell half the story why don’t you. Yep he tried the legal path and when that failed he set off to use illegal means. He has never conceded that he lost. Never. Unlike every other president in history. And Hillary never tried to subvert the democratic process. She didn’t use a group of fake electors and send a rabble to stop the democratic process.
He tried to stop the transfer of power with no evidence whats so ever.
If a woman goes to the police with a complaint of rape, they do not send her away and tell her come back when she has evidence that will allow them to prosecute the perpetrator. Instead, the police do the investigation and then make a recommendation to the public prosecutor as to whether of not the evidence will probably lead to a conviction. Basically what happened is that the courts told Trump to come back when he had evidence — which would have required a bipartisan body with power of subpoena and investigative staff to obtain — and the Media routinely called what Trump said a “lie,” without any evidence and judgement to demonstrate that what he said was knowingly a lie. It was a miscarriage of justice which you support, despite obvious evidence to the contrary.
““We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!””
“He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement,” “All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t.”
They are not irrelevant. This was not a random act of violence. It was, instead, a high-profile political target. Certainly the Media has culpability in generating anger towards Trump. Remember the old aphorism, “Two wrongs don’t make a right.” The Media has more influence, collectively, than any single person, because the Media also controls what gets reported to the public and how it is framed. The Media, therefore, has a responsibility to set an example and establish standards. Unfortunately, the Media has consistently set the standard in the basement.
And how is someone who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power not a threat to democracy?
My recollection of the events was that there were documented irregularities in the collection and counting of ballots, and there were upsets in some districts where the pre-election polling favored Trump. There were also claims made that Biden received more votes than there were registered voters in some districts. Not surprisingly, Trump and others felt there was evidence of voting fraud. The courts refused to get involved by saying without evidence Trump did not have standing.
What Trump wanted was an immediate investigation of the various charges. That didn’t happen. What Trump and the rioters in the capitol wanted was a delay in the casting of electoral votes, not a “stop” to the peaceful transfer of power completely, so that the charges could be investigated. It is not unlike inspecting the forms before pouring the concrete after a whistle blower claimed the forms were not placed according to code.
“There were also claims made that Biden received more votes than there were registered voters in some districts. “ They were investigated and found to be wrong. Complete nonsense.
I saw a report earlier today that claimed the reason Biden finally decided to quit was because he was shown internal Democrat polls that showed Biden had no path to victory over Trump.
What I would like to know is did the Democrats do internal polls on Kamala, and what were the results? Did she do better than Biden? The public polls I have seen show she doesn’t do any better than Biden against Trump.
“ The public polls I have seen show she doesn’t do any better than Biden against Trump.” That is correct at this point in time. But she has not campaigned at all and Trump has. I have no idea whether she can beat Trump, but there was no way Biden was going to make another four years so there was no option.
Kevin Kilty
July 21, 2024 12:04 pm
Since a bit of this open thread became a forum on radiation, heat transport, and energy conversion, I thought a couple of additional relevant points might be of value.
Near the Earth’s surface bulk transport from convection and evaporation dominate probably everywhere over net radiation transport back to space. Radiation in a clear sky carries more and more of the transport burden as one rises in the atmosphere. At some height there is little bulk transport simply because there is little mass and almost no water vapor.
Someone upthread mentioned that LWIR absorbed in the atmosphere is converted to kinetic energy of diatomic molecules. Since much discussion involves conversion of PE and internal energy to KE, this produces a possible point of confusion. The KE of diatomic molecules (O2 and N2) is part of internal energy, not part of what we’d call KE of the atmosphere. The KE of molecules makes up the velocity distribution in a gas and would be related to the local temperature of the gas. The KE of molecule translation can, though collisions, be transferred to various molecular vibrations and rotations and thence to the radiation field again. The transfer of energy back and forth between matter and radiation is quite complicated and is not uni-directional.
In any problem involving radiation boundary conditions are very important to understanding what goes on. The atmosphere has an obvious lower boundary that behaves nearly like a black body. But there is no distinct upper boundary. Instead there is a broad region of varying temperature, density and composition with a growing net upward radiation transport. It’s a complex boundary – there is no layer of 255K where radiation leaves the planet. Why the surface boundary is so integral to understanding what goes on is this. Radiation from the “black body” surface is a continuum determined by its absolute temperature. Some of this radiation is absorbed immediately by IR active gasses; i.e. the 15um wavelength is almost completely absorbed in about 10m of atmosphere by CO2. But this is only a small portion of the spectrum. Through conversions a portion of this radiation reaches the ground surface again (the GHE). Along the way all information of it having begun as 15um radiation is lost. It is absorbed by the ground as a black absorber, becomes “internal energy”, then emitted again in a thermal spectrum with some probability in a wavelength band transparent to IR radiation. Out to space it goes.
In clear sky the tropics are about 12% transparent, in midlatitudes 20+% transparent, in the subarctic or above 2,000 meters in mountainous regions 30+% transparent. Thus, the outgoing boundary for radiation starts at the ground surface. Add clouds and the picture is more complex for LWIR and solar irradiance both and the complexity is at a scale smaller than the cell dimensions in computer models.
I find your comments interesting with bits of truth and much that seems a bit confused. This statement in particular, “The KE of diatomic molecules (O2 and N2) is part of internal energy, not part of what we’d call KE of the atmosphere,” makes no sense to me. How can the kinetic energy of 99% of the atmosphere not count?
it may surprise you to know that at STP the non-radiative deactivation of GHG molecules exceeds the spontaneous emission rate by a factor of approximately 50,000:1. This has serious implications for GHE narrative that almost every one has acquiesced to.
I have submitted our essay on this topic to WUWT and hope to have it published here in the near future. In the meantime, we have presented the work in video podcast on the Tom Nelson channel.
If you don’t have an open mind, don’t bother. On the other hand, if you think debunking the GHE would be of benefit give it a watch and I’d be happy to discuss any questions you might have.
The random translation of molecules, their collisions etc, do not move the center of mass of a volume of gas. Thus, there is no macro-scale motion of the air, which is what we would call KE. There is still energy involved, however, and this energy is part of what we call internal energy. In fact, the distribution of speeds of molecules is what we would identify as something proportional to the temperature of the gas. It’s one item that connects kinetic theory of gasses to thermodynamics.
I don’t get involved in “debunking” the GHE because I can calculate it. I can also measure it. I don’t debunk things that have an objective reality. Now, whether its modification by a trace amount of IR active gasses is a danger to life on earth or a stable climate, whatever that means, well … I doubt it.
The random translation of molecules, their collisions etc, do not move the center of mass of a volume of gas.
This doesn’t seem quite correct. Granted the center of mass does not change but something does occur. There are two possibilities. One, the pressure rises when volume is constant or the volume increases when the pressure is constant. Both of these will cause a given parcel of air to rise, as in hot air rises. It doesn’t matter if it is H2O, N2, or O2. Energy is then transported upwards to a different location, i.e., convection.
I normally consider the rising air to be doing work against gravity which causes a temperature reduction as a parcel rises.
What about water which is the major greenhouse gas. Presently, a cubic meter of air contains only about 0.8 grams of CO2, which can heat up air by only a very small amount. At 20 deg. C, a 1 cubic meter of air has a mass of 1.20 kilograms.
At 70 deg. F and 70% RH, the concentration of water is 17,780 ppm. This is 14.3 grams of water per cubic meter of air. For these weather conditions, water is about 98% of the greenhouse effect.
We really do not have to worry about this trace amount of CO2 in the air.
That is one of the conclusions of our work. Water is everything, and it provides a natural negative feedback. Climate change is natural. We have no control.
Joe Biden and Kamala both speak gibberish. Xi and Putin probably couldn’t tell the difference. the only difference I can see is that Joe Biden was bought and paid for by the Chicoms and Russians, whereas, I don’t see that Kamala has been compromised in this way. But she’s so stupid it doesn’t really matter.
We are in unknown territory when it comes to deterring our enemies. Just the notion that Trump is going to be president again will cause them some pause. One of the Bad Actors may try something in the next few months since they think they can probably get away with it as the U.S. is distracted. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mad Mullahs of Iran set their surrogate terrorists into attack mode again and blow up the Middle East even more. It would have never happened under Trump. When Trump left office the Mad Mullahs were practically bankrupt and could not afford to support terrorist actions. Now, under Biden, the Mad Mullahs have 250 billion dollars. Plenty of money to start trouble in the Middle East, and that’s just what they did. And Biden is enabling the Mad Mullahs to build nuclear weapons. The latest report says the Mad Mullahs have enough enriched uranium to build two nuclear weapons now.
It will be interesting to see how Harris tries to balance the ‘river to the sea’ crowd vs. the deep pockets of the so-called donor class. My concern is that both groups are so infected with TDS that they will hold their noses and support the Democrats.
Yes, and some of my in-laws have already said they’re ‘energized’ by the news. This election was never going to be a layup, but I think it will be tougher yet now that Biden’s obvious dementia is no longer an obstacle to the Democrat base and the regime media.
And “we’ve always been at war with Eastasia” (or Russia or whom ever).
Tom Shula
July 22, 2024 1:28 pm
If a self identified “climate skeptic” believes so strongly in the “Greenhouse Effect” that they won’t even look at work that might refute it, are they truly a “climate skeptic”?
I just saw a commercial for one of those retractable hoses.
Now, I have two and, for what I use them for, they’re great.
But this one for a newer model that had “copper infused” connections. (I read that a copper alloy.). That’s fine.
But they showed a scene where kids were drinking from the hose and claiming, because of the “copper infused” connection, it was lead free.
That can’t be true.
“Copper infused connections” won’t remove lead if it’s already in the source water. (From plumbing or otherwise,) Even in California.
Deceptive advertising always bugs me.
(Not faulting the newer version of the “self retracing” hose. Just it’s commercial.)
Steve Z
July 23, 2024 10:31 am
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From CNBC (Business News)
23 July 2024
Reporter – Sam Meredith
“World logs hottest day since records began — with fresh highs expected in the coming months”
“The EU’s Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S) found that the global average surface temperature rose to 17.09 degrees Celsius (62.76 degrees Fahrenheit) on July 21.”
Edstone Miliband has been getting all the attention lately with his mission to deindustrialise and dedevelop the UK. This has taken the spotlight off of developments in the capital.
Our glorious Mayor has wasted no time in resuming his neo-Napoleonic style of rule. Yes, we’ve had Ulez expansion and the war on the motor car, but there is plenty more to come.
The Blackwall Tunnel
The tunnel was originally opened as a single bore in 1897. A second bore opened in 1967 to relieve congestion, handling southbound traffic while the earlier 19th century tunnel handled northbound traffic. These tunnels were long paid for and were free to use.
But, when you’re overly profligate – a massive black hole in TfL coffers etc – and short of a few quid what do you do? Add another charge, of course. Thus from 2025…
“”Sadiq Khan charges drivers £8 a day to use Blackwall Tunnel
Those failing to pay the mayor’s latest motoring charge face fines of £180
…
The charge is partly intended to deter people from using the tunnels “”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/07/10/sadiq-khan-charges-drivers-day-use-blackwall-tunnel/
But we know some will still stump up. Simply because they have to.
What many abroad may not know about is Sadiq Khan’s culture war on the English nation and the British in general. This one starts with the start of the European football (soccer) championships held recently in Germany…
“”London Mayor Sadiq Khan’s Transport for London (TfL) authorities state that the St George’s Cross could potentially “distract” other drivers and cause accidents.***
The capital’s 125,000 drivers have been warned they could face serious penalties, including losing their black cab licence if they display the red and white banner. Drivers argue that the flags are no more distracting than the colourful advertisements on vehicles.””
https://londonlovesbusiness.com/tfl-ban-london-taxis-from-flying-england-flags-during-euros/
Indeed, London was the only UK city to ban display of the national flag. But it does get worse. Normally, at such sporting fests like the Euro’s and the World Cup areas are set up in the city for people to watch the games on a big screen. E.g. Google Euro 2016…
“”Where to watch the Euro 2016 final live in London: The best pubs, bars and outdoor screens””
https://www.standard.co.uk/going-out/attractions/where-to-watch-euro-2016-in-london-a3267271.html
But not this time, not with this Mayor…..
England’s heartbreak was made worse in London for football fans who tried to find places to watch the Euros final against Spain, only to realise that outside screenings – traditional in the capital’s big parks – had been banned by Sadiq Khan. Mayoral miser Khan blocked the provision of outside viewing areas or big screens for fans in the capital. Londoners were lucky to find a spot in a packed pub – or they had to win a ballot for City Hall’s limited capacity screening of the match at the O2…
The Met slapped an antisocial dispersal order on central London – somewhat confusingly given street gatherings were banned by the Mayor. The force said in a statement:
“If you were thinking of travelling in, perhaps consider other options and remember to plan your journey home.”
Meanwhile, Sadiq Khan was spotted in the Royal Box for the Men’s Final at Wimbledon – along with Labour MP chum Stephanie Peacock. One rule for Labour…””
https://order-order.com/2024/07/15/miseryguts-khan-banned-millions-from-enjoying-euros-final-while-he-went-to-wimbledon/
*** An English flag is more distracting than a roadside billboard? Of course it is.
To give you a measure of the little man
Any Questions…
LibDem London Assembly Member Hina Bokhari sought to ask Sadiq Khan a simple enough question today at Mayor’s Question Time: Seeing as he repeatedly lobbied the Tory government to remove the two-child benefit cap, will he do the same with this government?
Flying the ‘Palestine’ flag was no problem for Sadiq.
The Wimbledon finalists were not….
Sharia law does not look favorably upon professional sports. Hopefully there will be an Islamic reformation that will lighten up on what is haram.
What if there’s already been an Islamic reformation and the outcome is the full-blown Sharia state?
French ex-Muslim Majid Oukacha explained that you can’t even applaud according to these rules. The number of prohibitions is staggering, 99% of Muslims (99.99% in Western liberal countries) have never heard of most rules.
Then there’s this
Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, is shortly to unveil a new public memorial to commemorate the victims of the slave trade, and highlight London’s role in their suffering.
Daily Telegraph
As the article says no mention in Sadiq’s world of the Royal Navy’s role in ending European involvement in the slave trade. Nor which the article doesn’t mention a memorial to the people of the South and South West taken by Barbary Slavers. Nor a memorial to all the people taken by the Islamic Slave Traders noted as the longest slave trade, having occurred for more than 1,300 years. Turkey only passed legislation explicitly prohibiting slavery in 1964. Some would say the Arabian Peninsular still has Slaves and still makes money from using them.
Argh
Beam me up Scotty
Any mention of the Quakers getting England to pass a law against slavery? What 1783?
In a sense, they have a memorial.
“Amazing Grace” written by an ex-slave trader who found Christ and became an abolitionist.
(Here in the US, they try to “cancel” that song.)
Sometimes learning a bit of the history of the author adds more meaning to the lyrics.
“It is Well With My Soul” is another such song.
This guy is a NAZ1.
Most leftists are, given the chance and position to show their inner self..
Will there ever be a way to reliably attribute a planet-wide warming trend to human emissions of CO2 from using fossil fuels? I think not. And is there any good reason to be concerned about it to begin with? No. The incremental static radiative effect is valid, but the dynamics of the atmosphere’s circulation prevent the energy involved in this effect from being retained as sensible heat.
Consider the concept of energy conversion in the atmosphere: [Kinetic energy] <-> [Internal energy + potential energy].
Lorenz described it. The ERA5 reanalysis model computes it explicitly as an hourly parameter, as the “vertical integral of energy conversion.” The units are W/m^2.
Why is this dynamic aspect of atmospheric circulation so important to grasp? Because it means that a “warming” effect from incremental GHG concentrations can never be isolated for reliable attribution of a reported trend. It also means there is no good reason to expect energy to accumulate as sensible heat in the climate system (land + ocean + atmosphere) from the minor radiative effect of incremental CO2, CH4, N2O, etc. It cannot be otherwise and make any sense at all out of the established math and physics of compressible fluids in numerical weather prediction, which is the basis of the ERA5 reanalysis model.
The “climate” movement has made a mountain out of the “greenhouse gas” molehill. It’s not even a molehill – it’s a flea on the mole in the molehill.
This is the reason I made this time-lapse video of plots of this particular parameter from ERA5. Full explanation pasted below in a reply. This is the same as the text description at the video on Youtube.
https://youtu.be/hDurP-4gVrY
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Are CO2 emissions a risk to the climate? No. The static “warming” effect of incremental CO2 (~4 W/m^2 for 2XCO2) disappears as kinetic energy (wind) is converted to/from internal energy (including temperature) + potential energy (altitude).
This time lapse video shows the daily minimum, median, and maximum values of the computed “vertical integral of energy conversion” hourly parameter from the ERA5 reanalysis for 2022. Values for each 1/4 degree longitude gridpoint at 45N latitude are given. The vertical scale is from -10,000 to +10,000 W/m^2. The minor incremental radiative absorbing power of non-condensing GHGs such as CO2, CH4, and N2O vanishes on the vertical scale as the rapidly changing energy conversion in both directions is tens to thousands of times greater.
So what? The assumed GHG “forcings” cannot be isolated for reliable attribution of reported surface warming. And with all the circulation and energy conversion throughout the depth of the troposphere, heat energy need not be expected to accumulate on land and in the oceans to harmful effect from incremental non-condensing GHGs. The GHGs add no energy to the land + ocean + atmosphere system. Therefore the radiative properties of CO2, CH4, and N2O, and other molecules of similar nature, should not be assumed to produce a perturbing climate “forcing.” The concept of energy conversion helps us understand the self-regulating delivery of energy to high altitude for just enough longwave radiation to be emitted to space.
References:
The ERA5 reanalysis model is a product of ECMWF, the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts. The computed parameters “vertical integral of potential + internal energy” and “vertical integral of energy conversion” are described at these links.
https://codes.ecmwf.int/grib/param-db/?id=162061
https://codes.ecmwf.int/grib/param-db/?id=162064
Further comment:
This is for just one latitude band at 45N. Similar results were observed for 45S, 10N/S, 23.5N/S, and 66N/S.
More Background:
From Edward N. Lorenz (1960) “Energy and Numerical Weather Prediction”
https://doi.org/10.3402/tellusa.v12i4.9420
“2. Energy, available potential energy, and gross static stability
Of the various forms of energy present in the atmosphere, kinetic energy has often
received the most attention. Often the total kinetic energy of a weather system is regarded
as a measure of its intensity. The only other forms of atmospheric energy which appear
to play a major role in the kinetic energy budget of the troposphere and lower stratosphere
are potential energy, internal energy, and the latent energy of water vapor. Potential and
internal energy may be transformed directly into kinetic energy, while latent energy may
be transformed directly into internal energy, which is then transformed into kinetic energy.
It is easily shown by means of the hydrostatic approximation that the changes of the
potential energy P and the internal energy l of the whole atmosphere are approximately proportional, so that it is convenient to regard potential and internal energy as constituting
a single form of energy. This form has been called total potential energy by Margules (1903).
…
In the long run, there must be a net depletion of kinetic energy by dissipative processes. It
follows that there must be an equal net generation of kinetic energy by reversible
adiabatic processes; this generation must occur at the expense of total potential energy. It
follows in turn that there must be an equal net generation of total potential energy by heating of all kinds. These three steps comprise the basic energy cycle of the atmosphere. The rate at which these steps proceed is a fundamental characteristic of the general circulation.”
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Post says:”…generation of kinetic energy by reversible…”.
To quote my thermodynamics book, “Reversible processes actually do not occur in nature.”
Ideal gases, and adiabatic compression and expansion “actually do not occur in nature” either, but still the ideal gas laws and the dry adiabatic lapse rate have useful meaning.
David the post is saying “ generation must occur” when it can’t.
Just please be reminded that the entire quote is from the Lorenz 1960 paper to which I linked for reference. Don’t get hung up on his reference to “reversible adiabatic processes.”
All processes have an inefficiency, therefore are not reversible without incurring more losses, a basis law of thermodynamics
Climate science has transmogrified CO2 into a “source” of temperature, even quantified as Watts / m2, the same units as real heat flux or irradiance. Thermodynamics should tell them this is total nonsense: temperature is an intensive quantity, and is the result of heat transfer, there is no such analogy to an irradiance source.
Irradiance: double the number of radiation flux sources incident on a surface, and the irradiance doubles (if they are similar in magnitude).
Temperature: double the number of temperature “sources”, does the temperature double? This is absurd. Temperature increases and decreases are the result of heat flow changes.
Yet this is the core of climate science and modeling.
Greenhouse theory relies upon radiative effects only. It is far too easy to just ignore or not even be cognizant of all the other effects occurring in heat transfer.
And the claim is always made that the GC models are “physics-based” (whatever this means). I guess thermodynamics is no longer part of physics.
Shula and Ott argue that due to collisions in the atmosphere, virtually all energy that greenhouse gasses absorb from surface long wave radiation is transferred to inert gasses N, Ar) as kinetic energy. This is transferred to the TOA via convective processes. At the TOA radiative gasses (Co2, H2O, ect) are excited by collisions and then radiate to space. Any down radiation is quenched by further collisions with inert gasses.
Tom Shula and Markus Ott : The “Missing Link” in the Greenhouse Effect | Tom Nelson Pod #232
Thank you for the “plug” regarding our presentation on the Tom Nelson Channel, Fran.
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For those who are interested in learning why energy transport via radiative transfer in the troposphere is not possible, the video link is
https://youtu.be/JtvRVNIEOMM?si=UAiRKr0tTeuQvjvc
We are hopeful that the essay on which the video is based will be published here on WUWT in the near future.
I have to argue a little bit on that.
Energy transfer by radiation in the troposphere is possible, but only over very short distances, a matter of metres depending on the source intensity.
eg… if you are near a fire you can feel the radiant heat.
Convection, conduction and bulk air transport controlled by the gas laws, ie pressure, density difference are what governs the bulk of atmospheric transfer of energy.
Great presentation, by the way 🙂
Maybe number the slides so people can refer to them easier ?
I understand your perspective. I’ll just say that the statements in our work are specific to the issue we are addressing, i.e., transport of the energy from Earth’s upwelling long wave radiation to space. And, that radiative transport means a net movement of energy in a specific direction as a result of the cascading absorption and emission of photons.
The GHG molecules near the surface absorb ULR and enter excited states. Within ~ 10 microseconds, 99.998% of them are thermalized, and their vibrational energy is converted to sensible heat in the atmosphere. The remaining 0.002% or so manage to spontaneously emit a photon. And so it continues. The absorbers of those photons will likely be thermalized, as will any molecules that are thermally excited by collision. The thermalization converting rotovibrational energy to sensible heat is an irreversible process. There is no radiative energy to drive radiative transfer in the troposphere.
So, as you say, conduction, convection, and air transport govern the transfer of energy in the atmosphere.
It would appear that we are in “violent agreement” on this.
What I find paradoxical is that many in the so-called skeptic community agree with the conclusion, but insist that the GHE is REAL.
And thanks for the nice feedback on the presentation. Please encourage others to go to Tom Nelson’s channel. There are a lot of great presenters there, and I think those that want to govern how we think are messing with his channel a bit.
Yep, a slightly different perspective on short distance radiation.. It was just a point I thought needed clarifying before some AGW loon picked it up..
But in total agreement on everything else. 🙂
ps. I assume you have seen the work of the Connelly father/son duo…
… basically proving the gas laws rule the atmosphere, hence CO2 can cause no warming
https://youtu.be/XfRBr7PEawY?t=1483
Tom, I watched this video (at the link you shared) just now with great interest. Thank you! Do you have an opinion on my post here, with the short video of daily plots, and the explanation? It is consistent with what you have concluded, but adds some perspective about the different forms of energy in the atmosphere’s circulation, and which completely obscures and negates the so-called GHG “forcings.”
I would also invite you to view and to read the description at this very short video I posted last year about the Band 16 images from the GOES East geostationary satellite.
https://youtu.be/Yarzo13_TSE
First, thanks for checking out the video and please share. Your feedback is greatly appreciated.
I did see your earlier post as I was perusing the thread and it peaked my interest for the reasons you stated. I need to spend more time to understand it better and I plan check out all of the links you provided today. I have taken a quick look at the time lapse and it’s fascinating.
It is ultimately all about the energy, so I’ll try to learn more about ERA5. Thanks to you for sharing it in the thread.
This has long been my description of what occurs in the atmosphere. One of the processes that is never discussed by warmists is the fact that as O2 and N2 are warmed by collisions, they convect just like H2O. Lots of heat is transported upwards for radiation higher in the atmosphere.
You are 100% on point with that.
It is quite simple. There is no measurable impact on the energy balance. If you do not believe that then explain how CO2 is causing cloud to reduce at all latitudes apart from a few degrees north of the Equator where it has increased over this century.
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As you can see from the CERES data, SWR is down everywhere except the region just north of the Equator and a tiny region of Antarctica. OLR does the opposite but not quite so much as the SWR so the net retention is 1.1W/m^2 accepting that CERES instruments can be calibrated to this accuracy.
Regulation of energy in and out is controlled by the phase changes of water on land and in the atmosphere. The upper limit is regulated by convective instability and only the atmospheric mass and properties of water play a role here. The addition of fossil carbon has made negligible contribution to the mass so negligible contribution to the energy balance.
The real changes are the axis precession cycle and the solar output now approaching a modern optimum similar to what occurred during the peak of the Roman Empire.
100%
Absolutely in agreement. We came to the same conclusion about water in our work.
I recommend articles by Jay Valentine on the subject of Democrat election fraud.
His latest article was a simple explanation of the problem. (see link below)
His estimates of excessive names on state voter rolls of up to 500,000 names per state may be somewhat too high.
He includes state residents who moved to a different location within the state but never changed their voter registration address. That makes no difference in a Presidential or Senate election, but could affect the House election and local elections.
Valentine’s numbers do not yet include many illegal aliens being registered to vote. The best timing to register them is after August 7. After August 7 (90 days before election). there are no mass deletions allowed from state voter rolls. Every name believed to be wrong must be challenged individually. The investigations, if there are any, will rarely happen before the election.
There will be many millions of names on state registered voter rolls that are all potential illegal votes for Biden … or whoever the Dumbocrat is. Maybe Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris?
Absentee ballots make the fraud easy if post office employees cooperate.
Let’s say there are 27 voters registered at a 7/11 store. 27 ballots could be sent to that store. The store owner, employees, mail carrier etc. could sell those ballots to a leftist NGO or give them away.
If Trump is leading by less a few percentage points in a swing state, it is still possible that illegal votes will show up and cause him to lose that state. Just like in 2020 ballot dumps AFTER midnight on election day in Detroit, Atlanta, Milwaukee and Pheonix.
Now That the RNC Is Over – Republicans Should Not Fool Themselves that Democrats Are Not Going for the Steal – This Time with Very Different Dynamics | The Gateway Pundit | by Guest Contributor
Accusing others of what you are going to do yourself? Real evidence: 0
Also why is trump distancing himself from project 2025 – I thought it’s such a great plan?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-now-bleeding-support-in-gop-dominated-state-as-more-women-voters-gravitate-to-biden/ar-BB1qitbs
His distancing himself from “2025” is just smart politics.
How so? I’ve been told it is absolute fine – so why would voters not like it?
Wokesters will hate it as if it’s Mein Kamp. Non wokesters love it- so no need to promote it.
Project 2025 is a conservative thinktank’s version of what should be done in the future, according to their particular version of conservatism.
Trump had nothing to do with formulating the 2025 plan and has serious disagreements with some of the policies.
Trump has his own polices. Good, common-sense policies like stopping the EV mandates and stopping the “Green New Scam” (as he calls it), and reducing taxes and regulations, and “drill, baby, drill!”.
The Democrats seize on a conservative thinktank’s writings and find some policies to not be acceptable to a mojority of Americans, such as their position on abortion, and the Democrats then claim Trump supports this extreme abortion position, when Trump specifically does not agree with their policy.
But you wouldn’t know that if all you listen to are the lying Democrats. They lie about everything, esepcially where it concerns Trump.
Trump is not a radical, despite what the Democrats say. It is the Democrats who are the radicals.
+100
I like the part of Project 2025 that requires my approval before my wife can cast a ballot.
His party is still working torwards abortion bans – so wether he likes it or not, he doesn’t seem to have influence on the party. And therefor voting for him will bring their policies, wouldn’t it?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ovs2aRZpmt0
Trump is calling other people vermin, and still denies a democratic election, without any kind of proof that would last in court.
Trump tells Proud Boys: ‘Stand back and stand by’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIHhB1ZMV_o
Doesn’t sound like a moderate to me.
Of course it wouldn’t… you have no real love for the USA.
No, sorry, don’t expect me to love a country.
You hate yourself so much…. no-one expects you to have any other feelings for anything.
Trump, I believe, supports abortion up to the 16th week of pregnancy, similiar to what is in force in Europe.
Trump does call some people vermin. Some people *are* vermin.
Trump was cheated out of an election. Many of the State Electors were not elected legally, they were elected without State legislative approval. There is no doubt about this. So if illegal State Electors elect Joe Biden, then Trump should feel like he was cheated.
Trump tried to have these illegal State Electors rejected by the U.S. Congress (like the Democrats did to him in 2016) but Vice President Pence didn’t want any part of this controversy even if it ended up with Joe Biden being elected. There were alternatate State Electors that Trump wanted to be accepted as the legitimate electors, but that didn’t happen due to personal cowardice on the part of Pence.
Chris Wallace is a leftwing propagandist. It was two against one in that debate.
So tell me, what does Trump mean when he says “stand back and stand by”?
Does he mean “stand back”? He said it. Maybe you are jumping to conclusions about Trump’s meaning. Democrats do that a lot in their efforts to demonize Trump.
And Trump specifically denounced Proud Boys and White Supremacists in his Charlotteville speech. You know, the one where the Democrats claimed he called them “very good people”. Of course, that’s a lie and anyone who listened to the speech would know it is a lie because Trump specifically condemned them. But that doesn’t matter to Democrats. They spread the lie anyway hoping gullible people will believe them.
You couldn’t find enough Rightwing extremists in this nation to fill up a football stadium. They have zero influence on the Republican Party. The Democrats build them up to be a huge problem and try to hang that around Trump’s neck. It’s all part of the demonization effort. And it’s all a Big Lie.
His party is still working towards abortion bans”
WRONG. Just making it a state concern, where it should be.
2020 elections were very far from being “democratic”, everybody with more than a single working brain cell knows that.
People like you are vermin… Truth Social.
Most American used to be PROUD to be American.
The Democrats and ultra-left press now hate real Americans… label them “far-right”
“WRONG. Just making it a state concern, where it should be.”
Exactly.
Right wing Republicans, have every right to express their views at the ballot box. If it results in an abortion ban in a state, so be it. If you don’t like it, either move or work to change the law.
Rememer, the U.S. was created by individual states, each of which had different and sundry expectations. The states reserved many powers to themselves. Like it or not, that is the current state of law in the United States.
You apparently want a national law whereby abortion is allowed anywhere at any time in gestation or after, paid for federally. It is up to you to convince the U.S. Congress to pass and the President to sign a Federal law doing so.
When you want a national law that applies to everyone, you are removing the ability of people in states to judge for themselves what the law should be. That my friend, is authoritarianism personified. Telling everyone how to live and what they should do.
Neither Trump nor the Supreme Court changed any law. The Supreme Court simply vacated a prior ruling that was never specifically enumerated in either the Constitution or Federal Law. Many of us believe that the Supreme Court was wrong originally because the Supreme Court simply can’t make up law out of whole cloth. If the U.S. ever comes to that, we are doomed. There is a prescribed methods in the Constitution to either amend it or for Congress/President to pass a law. That is how a change should be handled and leave the Supreme Court free to judge actual written law.
That what is called the Squeeze.
Trump is now getting $US45 million per month from EV maker Elon Musk.
He is now getting some of the Green action. .
Meanwhile, back in the real world.
Biden Vs. Trump 2024 Election Polls: Trump Expands His Lead—As More Democrats Pressure Biden To Drop Out (msn.com)
Trump’s national lead over Biden grows — CBS News poll – CBS News
Does Clinton get the call? “Hello Hillary, this is Lucifer…”
She’d love it. Thinks she’s “entitled”. But too much baggage.
Us older folks remember. (Benghazi, “Wipe it like with a cloth?”, etc.)
And who didn’t see that coming?
At the last minute The Dems will blame Brandon for all their failed policies BUT, at the last minute, a Dem will arise from the ashes to continue the same failed policies.
(Maybe RFK Jr. will rejoin the ranks? … after a sufficient pause where no one wants Kamal either?)
IF RFK Jr. name comes up, maybe he’d pick a RINO like Romney as his running mate?
Remember PNAC?
Project 2025 is not now and never was affiliated with Trump. Project 2025 is a set of policies created independently of any campaign or party.
Leftist women are never going to vote for Trump. The are the most radical, most misinformed voters in America.
“Leftist women are never going to vote for Trump. They are the most radical, most misinformed voters in America.”✔✔✔✔
M A G A
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No point replying to this poster – he/she is only posting to get a rise out of everyone. Not interested in participating in any proper discussion.
There are a few other accounts here which have the same tone, style and obvious objective.
The thing to do is ignore them all, and eventually he/she will get tired of it and go away.
How he any different from Nick Stokes?
Nick puts a lot of thought into his posts. He’s almost always wrong but at least he’s thoughtful. Nick also has occasional good insights.
Stokes uses all kinds of sophistry and debating tricks to prop up anything and everything generated by the IPCC.
why is trump distancing himself from project 2025
Simple: Because he has his own plan
It’s not his project?
He had nothing to do with it?
msn?
😎
There are some in the MSM that are saying, “He wasn’t really shot.”!
(I suppose Hollywood supplied him with a fake blood pack to slap on his ear.
OH! And he set up a couple of people to die for a few votes. Donald’s last name is not Clinton.)
You may be conflating absentee ballots with vote-by-mail. Absentee ballots must br requested by the voter. For vote by mail, the election office blindly mails ballot to each registered voter.
Vote by mail is outlawed in most countries. It’s an open invitation for voter fraud. The Democrats don’t have to try hard to steal an election where vote by mail is legal.
Good description of the differences.
I vote with an absentee ballot usually, although I may stand in line this time around.
As you say, I must request the absentee ballot from the Election Board, and there are safeguards in place to verify that I am the one voting.
What are those safeguards?
Here in Ohio, last time I did absentee, A copy of my birth certificate, driver’s license, utility bill, and others. Not ALL of them but some verification of ID was required with the the request for an absentee ballot before it was even sent out.
Vote by mail for federal elections is allowed in in eight states. But not in the swing states that helped Biden in 2020.
If everyone on the voter rolls automatically receives a ballot by mail, fraud is even easier than in states where people have to request an absentee ballot.
The state voter roll fraud can be done with on site poling place voting when there is no ID required to cast a vote.
Every name on the list is able to vote whether the vote is legal or not.
No proof of being a US citizen is required for federal vote registrations. The person must check a box and sign his or her name. That is proof of nothing. A recount does not catch this problem.
Eight states—California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont and Washington and the District of Columbia—allow all elections to be conducted entirely by mail.
Two states—Nebraska and North Dakota—permit counties to opt into conducting elections by mail.
IIRC it was the electoral office of Michigan that when asked if they checked that the returned ballots that were automatically bulk-mailed out to everyone on drivers license, welfare etc databases were cross-checked to confirm citizenship, they replied –
“not our job”
In my previous reply, I should have added that Ohio “purges” their voter rolls.
That is, if a name doesn’t show as having voted in the last 6 elections (Maybe the last 6 years?), that name is dropped from the voter roll.
A notice is sent out in plenty of time before they are actually dropped so they can re-register in their district.
(Fewer of the dead still vote in Ohio by absentee or “in person”.)
Correction.
They need to respond OR they will then need to re-register.
Changes in the strength of the sun’s magnetic field affect the climate through changes in the ozone zone. The resulting changes in the circulation of the jet stream lead to major climate changes, especially at mid-latitudes, as happened during the Little Ice Age. The cooling will mainly affect North and South America in winter, due to the weakening of the geomagnetic field. UVB radiation, on the other hand, which is high-energy, may increase and raise temperatures in sunny regions.
http://wso.stanford.edu/gifs/Polar.gif
For some reason, ozone waves are appearing over the Indian Ocean. They initially form in the upper stratosphere in the region of the great geomagnetic anomaly in the South Atlantic and move toward Australia in the lower layers of the stratosphere (opposite to the Earth’s rotation). Ozone is a heavy gas (much heavier than O2 and N2), so when ozone concentrations are high in a region, air pressure in the stratosphere increases and pressure in the troposphere rises.
Ozone is diamagnetic, so it is repelled by a strong geomagnetic field. During the winter season, ozone in the stratosphere is directed toward the polar circle and at the same time repelled by the strong geomagnetic field over the pole. Therefore, it accumulates in regions with a weakened geomagnetic field.
An increase in ozone and pressure between Australia and Antarctica can already be observed, causing waves of Antarctic air in Australia.
The weakening of the earth’s magnetic field is what I am concerned about in terms of near term climate change. I am surprised it doesn’t get more attention. Magnetic storms on the sun of a given level are now having a greater impact on the Earth because of the weakening of the magnetic field. The Swarm data shows that the Earth may currently be losing 5% of its magnetic field strength per decade. I expect this to become a front page story in time.
Here in Wokeachusetts- as published in a local paper.
House climate and clean energy legislation passes
GOP opposes bill that blends siting reforms with new clean energy procurement plans
By SAM DRYSDALE
State House News Service
BOSTON — The Massachusetts House was split along party lines Wednesday night in voting to support climate and energy legislation that would “help accelerate the green transition,” according to the bill’s lead architect.
“The bill before you continues this commitment to empower municipalities as trusted partners and foster local control. It will bring local expertise and innovation to the table and will help accelerate the green transition,” Rep. Jeff Roy, chair of the Committee on Telecommunications, Utilities and Energy, said during opening floor remarks on Wednesday afternoon.
The bill passed around 7:30 p.m. on a 131-25 vote with every Republican in the chamber opposing the legislation although no Republican stood to speak on the bill at any point during Wednesday’s hours-long deliberations.
Climate change is often pointed to by public officials as a major issue facing society, but few Democrats opted to publicly debate or discuss the bill, with only two legislators making brief statements on amendments that were quickly approved.
The 107 amendments to the bill were dealt with quickly and without much debate. Roy spoke at length about the details in the underlying bill that is meant to simplify and limit the duration of permitting processes to ensure that new clean energy infrastructure can be built.
Roy cited clean energy infrastructure delays stretching from five to ten years, and “the often duplicative processes and the inaccessible proceedings for host communities.”
Rep. Steven Owens of Watertown spoke in favor of the bill, saying that each of those years of delay to permit new clean infrastructure is another year of climate change worsening.
Owens wore a tie with blue and red stripes. He said each thin line represented a year over the last century demonstrating Massachusetts’ temperature, with blue stripes representing colder than average years and red stripes for years when temperatures were high.
“From last session, I’ve had to add two more red stripes. Two more years hotter than average, and two more hotter than ever,” he said. “We don’t have to wait for clean energy projects. This bill will help streamline the permitting process. We’ve heard of projects taking up to 10 years going through permitting and review. Ten years of red tape, 10 years of more red stripes, 10 hotter than normal years.”
Owens spoke about a section of the bill modeled after a bill he filed to allow natural gas companies to sell and distribute utility scale non-emitting thermal energy, including network geothermal and deep geothermal energy.
He said by changing the definition of a gas company, National Grid and Eversource could more easily launch new pilot programs to generate energy through ground source heat pumps, and the language “keeps the doors open for other innovations beyond geothermal.”
The provision will help “future-proof the utilities and the industry writ large,” Owens said.
In his opening remarks, Roy discussed highlights of the bill, including: consolidating permitting at both the local and state levels, setting 12- to 15-month limits for the issuance of all final permitting decisions; streamlining the appeals process; establishing community engagement requirements for developers; creating guidance on the suitability of sites for future energy infrastructure development.
It would also clearly delineate between local and state authority to approve these infrastructure projects, allowing small clean energy projects under 25 megawatts and small energy storage systems under 100 megawatts to be under the control of a municipality, which would be required to issue a final decision within a year of receiving a permit application. The bill includes a number of provisions to provide resources and technical support to municipalities who need state approval for projects, or to do their own local reviews.
The Healey administration helped craft the siting and permitting reforms in the House and Senate bills with input from top lawmakers.
The Senate took up its version of the bill in late June and sent it to the House on July 1.
Though both branches agree on the need to reform the siting and permitting process, the House bill calls for the procurement of 9.45 million megawatt-hours of clean energy, including from nuclear generation, as well as 5,000 megawatts of energy storage — neither of which feature in the Senate bill.
The Senate bill includes changes to the wind procurement process that the House dropped in their version.
Couldn’t get all of it here in one post – here’s the rest
“What they sent was a far more expansive bill beyond the siting and permitting work, and contained some provisions that have not been subject of public hearings,” Roy said during his Wednesday speech. “So it required more study and an expansive response.”
With approval from both chambers, the bill will now likely head to conference committee where negotiators will have less than two weeks to come to a compromise before the end of formal sessions for this two-year term.
Roy and Barrett made headlines earlier this session by having such significant disagreements that they conducted hearings on energy policy separately, rather than function as a joint committee. If a compromise surfaces after July 31, any single opponent of the bill could block it from advancing during the regular informal sessions that will be held over the last five months of 2024.
Feel I’m goin’ back to Massachusetts.
Something’s telling me I must go home.
And the lights all went out in Massachusetts.
And Massachusetts is one place I have seen
I will remember Massachusetts.
The Gibbs brothers.
Hardly woke when you have an opposition voting against such nonsense. Australia and UK politics have no opposition to the madness. It is just a matter of degree. The UK just voted to accelerate the madness.
Australian State oppositions just offer faster transitions. The Federal opposition is offering a slightly different transition.
Except that the state legislature is something like 90% Democrat- so if split on party lines, means nothing. And, those Republicans are probably in opposition just to go along with the national party. I don’t think a single one actually dares to vigorously oppose the woke policies.
We’re heading for a similar collapse to 1177 BC. All the ingredients are there. A naturally changing climate, pandemics CV19 and now H5N1 apparently, supply chain issues, computer systems falling over in a more and more cashless society, mass migration across the Mediterranean and you can probably think of a few more.
https://youtu.be/wqWTqUk-3FE?si=HCt5w3G3cgiSeufK
I couldn’t be happier about the CrowdStrike crap. I use MS and they forced me to go from the old MS mail system to the new Outlook. The new Outlook is worse than the old MS Mail.
BUT when CrowdStrike went down they apparently took the NEW outlook down with them and I now have the OLD MS Mail program back. LOLOLOL
Now if they only just leave it alone, It appears the new Outlook is LESS stable and secure than the old MS Mail.
The collapse was associated with the end of of the medieval climate optimum. The optimums are associated with half periods of the 1680 year gravitational cycle of the sun. It was also during a period when the axial precession of Earth was reducing peak sunlight over global land.
We are not yet at the end of the present optimum and peak solar is increasing in the NH. As well as increasing sunlight over the land mass, both CO2 and atmospheric water have strong upward trends so that all favours improving agricultural outcomes.
The Mediterranean is reaching monsoon conditions, which pumps a lot more water over Northern Africa.
The biggest threats now are man made rather than climate. Notably the demonisation of fossil fuels and the various wars.
Trump surviving the bullet was a positive outcome. This time around he is better placed to clean up the swamp. Maybe he will be a positive influence on the peace process. He should shift the UN to Africa. I expect that will reduce its burden and influence substantially.
Nuclear option would mean shutting off shedloads of cheap solar to use expensive power
https://www.queenslandconservation.org.au/nuclear_option_shutting_off_cheap_solar
Don’t feed the troll!
Which trolls are we allowed to mock, and which must be ignored? Is there an official list?
LOL!!
“Which trolls are we allowed to mock, and which must be ignored? Is there an official list?”
None that I’ve ever seen. But there are some that I voluntarily choose to (mostly) ignore. 😎
I hear you.
Study after Study proofing renewables are the best way forward. More and more countries go renewable. Guess reality is trolling now. And please tell me how this “we build nuclear in australia” is not trolling a whole continent. It may have been an option 30 years ago – and even then economics were against it.
Tell us how destroying vast areas of pristine rainforest and environment to install wind industrial estate, is in any way “conservation”
Nuclear will save that pristine environment, just as oil and coal save forests and whales.
But “conservationists” DON’T CARE about conserving the environment.
They would rather see it destroyed on the virtue-seeking altar of erratic, unsustainable parasitic wind and solar.
“Study after Study proofing renewables are the best way forward.”
And then Reality sets in…
“cheap solar”: anything like “cheap fakes”?
Nah, “cheap” solar is the stuff that gets sold fresh on fine, sunny days.
It’s the solar stuff that gets sold at night and on dim cloudy days that costs an arm and a leg.
Apparently it needs some special treatment and storage to make it usable before it goes off.
Why can’t they just freeze-dry it if it’s that perishable?
Haha! Made my day.
How does nuclear “shut off” solar at night or on a overcast day ??
Someone is very confused. !
Grid wind and solar are NOT cheap.. It is environmentally destructive and economically very expensive, because it disrupts the stability of the electricity supply system.
Everywhere there is a significant infection of wind and solar on the grid, electricity costs skyrocket because the cost of providing electricity when they fail to supply becomes greater and greater.
They are parasitic JUNK, sucking on, and destroying the grid supply system.
If they get away with all the wind industrial estates in Queensland, it will mean the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of large areas of pristine rainforest and gorgeous scenery.
This is apparently what “Queensland Conservation” WANTS to happen !
Green conservation => environmental destruction.
Proposed renewable energy projects across Queensland. (youtube.com)
A thing of beauty:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/500hPa/orthographic=-107.87,75.57,350
Notice the two big low-pressure systems in the North Pacific ocean.
These are the so-called upper lows at an altitude of 5,000 meters. These are closed loops of the jet stream with a trapped mass of cold air. At their outskirts, lows form at an altitude of about 850 hPa. Stream currents operate , even up to an altitude of 3,000 meters (700 hPa), forming highs and lows in the lower troposphere.
This is what the jet current looks like in the tropopause, where the wind is by far the strongest.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/250hPa/orthographic=-110.31,86.35,350
The Ferrel Cells doing their thing – shifting lots of energy northward.
President Trump said last night in a speech in Michigan, that he would terminate the Biden EV mandate on “Day One” of his next administration.
And he said he would terminate the Biden “Green New Scam” and use the money to rebuild roads.
He also said he would bring back coal last time. Now that didn’t work out, did it?
Get help PDQ.
So did he say it? Did he do it?
He tried. Trump got rid of Obama’s Clean Power Plan that would have made coal plants uneconomical. Biden reversed that. Without the GHG penalties imposed on coal generators by regulation they would come roaring back. It’s regulation, not economics, that kills coal. Look at China.they are still building out plenty of coal powered generation
I agree, look at china.
Yep, massive industrial expansion.
You know, manufacturing the things that people need to make their lives less miserable.
Bet you have several Chinese manufactured items you depend on..
… just as you are totally dependent on fossil fuels for basically everything in your miserable locked-up existence.
Good place for you to visit and fall in love/.a coal pit.
“Trump got rid of Obama’s Clean Power Plan that would have made coal plants uneconomical.”
Yes, Trump saved my local coal-fired power plant. Obama and Biden wanted to convert it to natual gas, but that stopped when Trump was elected.
During the blackout in Texas and surrounding areas in February 2021, our local coal plant kept chugging right along, despite the cold weather, and we didn’t have any blackouts or brownouts around here.
Thanks for keeping the lights on, Donald!
He same exactly the same at the RNC last Thursday.
s/same/said/
I heard JD Vance, Trump’s new vice presidential pick, call it the “Green New Scam” just like Trump does, so I guess JD is onboard with the plan.
Donald Trump is a self-serving blowhard of epic proportions.
His rambling speeches are filled with lies, exaggerations and many promises that will never be kept. The speeches are like a comedy act.
Based on his speeches, Trump is the best President in American history who had the best economy in American history. In fact, Real GDP growth under Trump was the worst for a four year term since Herbert Hoover in the 1930s.
If one compiled a list of everything Trump claims he will get done on “day one”, it would be possible for Trump to retire on day two!
Meanwhile, CO2 remained a pollutant throughout all four Trump years as President from January 2017 through January 2021, and the Keystone pipeline extension only got 8% completed.
The worst problem, in my opinion, is that conservative media never fact check Trump. They let him get away with constant BSing in his speeches.
I spent an hour searching for an honest conservative fact check article of Trump’s acceptance speech. Similar to my search for a good fact check article for the Trump portion of the debate with Biden. My time was wasted. I had to recommend CNN fact checking articles on Trump because at least they made an effort. They were biased against Trump but not too much
Here is the CNN fact check of the Trump acceptance speech, which was far too long and contain far too many lies an exaggerations.
Fact-checking night 4 of the Republican National Convention | CNN Politics
It looks like the 2024 election will be between a self promoting narcissistic blowhard and dementia Joe. The low quality of those two choices is disappointing. Neither man has a history of reducing the size and spending of the federal government.
THERE WERE TWO OT THREE SHOOTERS
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This video shows Shots 1, 2 and 3 were definitely fired by Crooks on the roof. These shots have echos.
Shot 1 went through Trump’s ear, travelled further to injure a person in the stand.
Shots 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 were fired by a different weapon through an open window at lower location. These shots sound muffled and have no echos, because they are inside the building.
One of these shots was meant for Trump, but hit a person high in the stand, meaning it was fired from a lower position than Crook’s. It when through the person and vaporized on the metal railing.
Shot 9 was fired by the Secret Service sniper on the roof 15.8 seconds after Shot 1; it killed Crooks.
Why did it so long for the SS sniper to fire?
Did he know more shots were coming?
Was he told to wait for more shots?
https://player.odycdn.com/v6/streams/32fa8f31a491fb3833071984be7d49b6315c1dca/427ed8.mp4
I see an Oliver Stone movie being written as we speak, Wilpost. 🙂
“Evil Jill” to be played by Stormy Daniels?
Or maybe E. Jean Carroll?
Three shooters is correct
(1) Crooks
(2) An unnamed PA sniper who missed
(3) An unnamed Secret Service sniper who killed Crooks with one shot.
A second shooter claim sounds like conspiracy theory BS just like the claim about JFK
And your whole screed above is just BS.
Until the China Virus, TRUMP! was pulling the US out of the 8 year intentionally drawn out great recession created by the actions of Obama and the congress while he still had control of both houses.
As to TRUMP! getting nothing done, it was not for the lack of trying but with the control of both houses of congress by the K Street lobbyist controlled majority especially Paul Ryan as House Speaker, he could not get much done the first two years. Then the China Virus and Democrat control of the House.
SO I must assume you support the control of the federal government by the monied power brokers as has happened the last 3 1/2 years under Brandon’s handlers??
Your current personality is really imbecilic.
We will know a whole lot more about the assasination attempt tomorrow (Monday) as the Secret Service Director testifies before Congress.
Congress members are very upset with how the Secret Service Director has avoided answering questions, so expect some heated conversations tomorrow.
Three shooters?
I don’t know about that.
The perp had a demi… er…semi-automatic.
The “rules of engagement” required a shot to be fired before a lethal response was allowed. (Seems like a “warning shot” would have been OK but it didn’t happen.)
One thing is clear, the Secret Service failed miserably to provide adequate protection for an ex-president, being a candidate should have made no difference. (What does Obama’s SS detail look like?)
From
Choose One: Law Enforcement at Trump Shooting Was Either Incompetent or Complicit
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/choose-one-law-enforcement-at-trump-shooting-was-either
PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS; THERE WERE THREE OR MORE SHOOTERS
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The perimeter of Secret Service protection zone excluded the building where Crooks was lying on the roof, with a direct line of fire to Trump, and several nearby buildings, with windows, also with a direct line of fire to Trump.
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Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.
The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.
The local police chief said (was told by the FBI) 8 cases were found near Crook’s body
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Per CNN report
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The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final “acoustic impulse” was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.
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Audio analysis has also confirmed, the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.
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This conclusion aligns with CNN’s analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.
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The shots exemplify a “crack-pop” sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the “arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound,” .
Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.
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The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second.
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The acoustic signature shows Shots 1, 2, and 3 appear to be fired INSIDE the building; no echos
The supersonic shockwave of Shot 1 arrived at a mic near Trump in 0.18 second.
The muzzle sound took another 0.22 second to arrive at that mic
Bullet travel time 0.40 second, i.e., about 0.4 x 1000 = 400 ft to the target
Shot 2 was fired 1.04 second later, and Shot 3, 1.72 second later
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Trump had tilted his head to look at a chart, felt the impact of Shot 1 on his ear, raised his hand to his ear, looked at the blood, and ducked, all within about 1.5 second, which caused Shot 2 and 3 to miss.
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Secret Service people surrounded Trump within about 2 to 3 seconds, and held him down for about 20 seconds, until the “all-clear” was given.
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Shots 4 through 8 require further analysis; all missed Trump
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Shot 9 was fired by the highly visible Secret Service sniper on the roof behind Trump about 15.8 second after Shot 1; the bullet entered above Crook’s left eyebrow.
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A skull contains brain matter, plus about a gallon of blood.
The shockwave would blow the back part of a skull in pieces, with blood, etc., over a large area of the roof.
A nearby bystander mentioned “they blew his head off”
The aerial photo shows the body and a clean roof.
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A few days later, an FBI person was seen hosing down the roof.
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Why did it take an eternity for the SS sniper to fire?
Did he know more shots would be coming?
Was he told to wait for more shots?
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A botched hit with more than one shooter. You can watch it Full Screen on X
Chris Martenson, PhD on X: “https://t.co/pHtnPNKz69” / X
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Did you find a CNN fact check about Biden’s assertion that
“there were no soldiers killed in my term as president”
(apart from the 13 US military personnel lives sacrificed during the botched Afghan withdrawal, which Biden later claimed was advised by Gen Milley, who rejected Biden’s claim)
The CNN fact check on Biden in the debate was biased — they went too easy on him. But Biden lies so often it would be easier to list the statements he made that were true.
Biden really rescued those 13 killed because his botched Afghan withdrawal.
He hid them in his 18 wheeler.
They were going to march out on stage during Dem Convention.
But then he dropped out because he missed a Covid booster or two. (He should have listened to Fauci.)
We’ll never see those 13 alive again.
Either way, Thanks to Brandon.
So stick with Biden, then, RG. Those are the options you have.
Too late for RG, now he’s got Kackles.
I voted for Trump in 2020 and will vote for him again in 2024.
No one could be worse than Biden. He won’t be running in 2024 so maybe Kamala Harris will be the other choice. She might be worse than our current President Jill Biden … I mean Joe Biden.
NBC is just now reporting that Joe Manchin might throw his hat in the ring.
As an initial shot just know that Joe Manchin portrays himself as a moderate and an independent, but he has voted almost 100 percent in favor of radical Democrat Biden legislation, so in reality, Joe Manchin is just as radical as every other Democrat.
I don’t even think the Democrats will go big for Manchin.
Manchin is a fraud, no different than all the rest of the marxo-democrats.
This is true.
Manchin would say he opposed of what the Dems were doing, but when it came to an actual vote….
He reminded me of Ohio’s Republican ex-rep and governor. “You can count on Kasich until it counts.”
Many forget that Biden gave his wife a well paying job overseeing some Federal post in West Virginia.
If they ditch the kackler, it would really be sending a message…
… that they KNOW she is unfit to be President…
… yet she was elected as vice president.
What does that tell you about the Democrats!
LOL, I did a “find – replace” edit function on your post Richard, replacing “Trump” with “Biden”, and it fits perfectly.
TDS is never a pretty sight.
“Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve – And never was! He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement. All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t – And now, look what he’s done to our Country, with millions of people coming across our Border, totally unchecked and unvetted, many from prisons, mental institutions, and record numbers of terrorists. We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112825895959090517
Trump tells the truth, and the Democrats hate the truth, because the truth makes the Democrats look bad. They are bad.
“Dickei-boi is a self-aggrandizing arrogant mal-informed blowhard non-entity.”
“My time was wasted.”
All you found were fantasy far-left fact-checks.. which you gullibly took as word.
You really are a far-left marxist, occasionally trying to pretend to be a conservative… aren’t you.
“Based on his speeches, Trump is the best President in American history who had the best economy in American history. In fact, Real GDP growth under Trump was the worst for a four year term since Herbert Hoover in the 1930s.”
You conveniently ignore, just like the Democrats do, the pandemic and its effects on the economy. The reality is it is a miracle the U.S. economy did as good as it did under the circumstances and it was all due to Trump’s efforts.
You should cite the economic statistics before the pandemic appeared. They *were* the best in U.S. history. Then the pandemic hit and the economy shut down and unemployment went from three percent to over 13 percent in a matter of months, and after the efforts of Trump to keep the economy going by spending lots of money to keep people in jobs (which you condemn as worthless) Trump reduced the unemployment rate from over 13 percent to less than seven percent in a matter of months.
As a comparison, the Obama-Biden administration took eight years to reduce the unemployment rate by three percent.
You are cherry-picking your data just like the Democrat liars do. I suspect TDS is involved.
“I suspect TDS is involved.”
I suspect a deep-seated closet leftism/marxist is involved.
Despite the façade, it ooozes through in many of his comments.
“You should cite the economic statistics before the pandemic appeared. They *were* the best in U.S. history.”
No they weren’t Tom. Never at any time has Trump had the best economic data.He lies. You know that.
We know YOU lie, every time you post something. !
You are a rabid leftist.. It is what you do.
https://www.npr.org/2018/01/08/576552028/fact-check-trump-touts-low-unemployment-rates-for-african-americans-hispanics
“The long answer
Trump is right that African-American unemployment hit a record low in December. The unemployment rate for black Americans is currently 6.8 percent, the lowest level recorded since the government started keeping track in January 1972.
And he’s also right that the Hispanic unemployment rate is down a point over the last year — it was at 4.9 percent in December, down from 5.9 percent in December 2016. That is close to a record low, though it’s also up 0.1 point from November.
But still, fact check: true on Trump’s numbers.
However, that’s not all Trump is doing in this tweet. He is implying that he caused these low African-American and Hispanic unemployment rates.”
end excerpt
Well, you know NPR is not going to have anything good to say about Trump. Judge for yourself. The numbers are clear and indisputable. NPR wants to pretend Trump had nothing to do with the numbers, just like a good Democrat propaganda outfit would do.
All presidents take credit for job increases on their watch, including Joe Biden. Joe Biden even took credit for jobs created during Trump’s last quarter in office, where 500,000 jobs were created. Joe was quick to claim credit for them even though he was not in office when they were created. That’s how dishonest Joe Biden is.
As you can see from the NPR reporting above, Simon, Trump did in fact preside over record low unempolyment numbers for blacks and hispanics in 2018, and these numbers went lower as time went along, and included all demographic groups, until the Covid Pandemic hit in early 2020.
Presidents can do things that enhance economic activity and they can do things that inhibit economic activity. Trump enhanced economic activity by cutting taxes, and cutting regulations and by making energy production one of his main focuses. All of these things enhanced economic activity. The Trump tax cuts that the Democrats decried, actually resulted in the U.S. Treasury receiving tens of billions of dollars more because of the increased economic activity stimulated by the tax cuts. So Trump has a legitimate claim that his actions helped the unempolyment rate.
Joe Biden, on the other hand, did just the opposite of what Trump did, and inhibited economic activity in numerous ways, and we now have double-digit inflation, high interest rates, and companies laying off employees by the thousands and some closing up shop.
The people of America are still reeling from the crushing Biden inflation and the illegal immigration Biden and the Democrats are enabling.
Kamala is the Border Czar. We’ll have to ask her about that now that she is running for president.
So you site one racial groups unemployment as proof Trump had the greatest economy ever? Sorry Tom that is one metric. Even though he says it, Trump never had the best US economy. Trump lies, you know that. And Biden’s economy is not the best ever either. But he is doing pretty well with inflation down and wages up and unemployment down. The stock market doing very well too. But Biden is gone now.
What CNN considers “lies”… are usually NOT !
RG doesn’t know the difference.
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Next head to roll, the USSS director:
https://conservativeplaybook.com/rumor-u-s-secret-service-director-kimberly-cheatle-to-resign-monday/
don’t know why
she did her job
“she did her job”
You mean leaving massive holes in the security for Trump ?
Part of her job description ?
Yes! I’m going to be watching the hearings tomorrow. The Secret Service Director has angered a lot of Republicans with her refusal to answer questions about the attempted assasination.
She won’t be able to run away from them tomorrow, although I suppose she can still refuse to answer. I did see where one Democrat is already calling for her to resign. I expect more will follow.
In my quest to model Stratospheric Water Vapor from aviation exhaust and its effect on climate, it appears that the Battle of Britain heated, the oceans, and then US involvement. The same for the Korean war. But the 60’s oh my, a massive strato-volcanics SO2 event, with large anthropogenic Stratospheric H2O emissions, but with some very high Stratospheric particulate loads (B-52s) caused very large perturbations.
Does anyone know of a source for the best lower stratospheric compilation of a weather ballon dataset?
The great climate shift of 1977 is global Aviations forcing emerging from the B52 smoke forcing of the Vietnam War. The trend diverges from the solar trend, and at 2000 the weakened Sun and the aviation exhaust rates were constructively interfering (the pause). Then humanity pushed stratospheric water vapor emissions to unsustainable levels and caused the warming of the last decade.
Two early eruptions Askja 1875 and Tarawera 1886 both had similar injections of water vapor into the stratosphere. Tarawera is unique because it was a huge ash and water vapor event, and you can see on the response the ash rained out sooner than the water vapors warming effects dissipated.
Stop aviation, back of the napkin indicates global temperatures will drop by 1.25 C in 3-4 years.
If aviation stopped the world’s population would likely become unsustainable.
Who would have thought that a bombing campaign would cool sea surface temperatures by 0.4C
Cambodia bombings and Linebacker II indicate that it happened, twice.
The great climate shift of 1977, the Vietnam war ended.
You ask the smartest Climatologist to explain the events of the 60’s.
Yeah dude, there were like these Sulfur emissions and stuff they like kind of like cooled the planet and stuff, but we cleaned it up.
Peter Ridd’s old alumni running another promotional campaign for the IPCC and associated taxeater swamp-
Beyond the Barrier Reef: Australia’s 3 other World Heritage reefs are also in trouble (theconversation.com)
I hope that Project 2025 eliminates all government funding of the Conversation.
2 pm EST Sunday
from Fox News
Joe Biden has dropped out and is endorsing Kamala Harris for President.
Buy a Kamala Harris word salad magic gibberish decoder ring.
With enough election fraud she could win.
So could Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama
Legal votes don’t always determine an election.
Does dementia Joe or cackling Kamala meet Benjamin Netanyahu next week.
Netanyahu should head straight back home to stop the USA embarrassing itself.
Trump calls her “laffin’ Kamala”. Trump even told us how to spell it.
Trump says Kamala will be easier to beat than Biden. I think so, too. And I think that because of that, the Democrats are going to try to oust Kamala next.
If they ditch the kackler, it would really be sending a message…
… that they KNOW she is unfit to be President…
… yet she was elected as vice president.
She is like getting the candles for free when you buy a birthday cake at the store. The important thing is the cake, even though the candles come with it.
Phew… so who will replace Joe?
I think it will be Kamala. Not saying I want her, but I think she is in the best position to get the job. So many questions now…..
And trump looks really old now 😛
But not having the dementia of Biden or being a cackling mindless hen with the mind of a 12-year-old girl, like Kamala.
So do sharks fall out of the sky when the sun goes down?
Only when pigs fly…
“when the sun goes down”
Another moronic brain-dead LUSER comment.
Irrelevant and pointless.
And no, sharks get their energy from eating CARBON-based food…
Not from solar panels.
Funny that the OLD guy TRUMP! pissed off all the leftist news media because his 90 plus minute acceptance speech kept them up past their bedtime, LOLOLOL.
That was pretty funny! All these leftwing reporters complaining about the length of Trump’s speech.
And then they want to claim it makes Trump into a Hitler clone since Hitler used to give long speeches. The Democrats are desperate to demonize Trump. It’s probably what got him shot.
A Trump speech is a “Tour de Force”. He hits every topic.
“The Democrats are desperate to demonize Trump. It’s probably what got him shot.”
Your words are dangerous and untrue Tom. The shooter was a registered republican. His house had Trump banners over the lawn at times. He was known as a conservative at school.
But actually his political affiliation does not override the fact he was a disturbed young man living in a house full of available guns. That is a recipe for disaster.
Strangely, nothing has been said about the political affiliations of the shooter’s parents. Both of them are apparently counselors. I’d be surprised to discover that they were conservatives.
They had Trump banners on their lawn so……
WTF??
Well it seems there have been reports saying they have…
https://www.newsweek.com/thomas-matthew-crooks-donald-trump-sign-yard-neighbor-assassination-attempt-1925678
But again, I think it matters not what his political leanings are…. he was one screwed up young man (I’m sure both sides have them) and that’s all it takes when guns were so easily available.
From the far-left CNN.
Are you trying to make my point? The boy was a head case. You should relate to that. It wouldn’t matter who he was shooting. He just needed a gun.
All the Fake News talking heads are crying in their Wheaties:
https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2024/07/22/profound-ignorance-and-lack-of-self-awareness-by-msnbcs-maddow-as-she-lauds-biden-for-dropping-out-n2177207
https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2024/07/21/leftists-melt-over-demise-of-bidens-reelection-campaign-struggle-to-hold-back-the-tears-n2177205
If it didn’t matter why did you mention it?
Because some people on the right (including JD Vance) are trying to paint this a some sort of hit job by the left. It isn’t.
You have overlooked the fact that the gun was owned by the father, and his kid took it without his permission (if not, the father is in a lot of trouble).
Guns were available in the home I grew up in. I would never have considered using one of my father’s firearms without his permission even for legal activities, let alone something that is a heinous crime. Before I was the shooters age I owned my own guns, and never once shot anybody.
There is an old saying that “The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.” The other way that can be expressed is that the apple on the ground tells us a lot about the tree it came from — as with Hunter Biden. In any event, these professional counselors did a poor job of raising their son. They failed to realize their son was “screwed up.” If they did realize it, they failed to correct it. Perhaps because they shared some of the same problems and were therefore blind to it being a defect in their son. They may realize it now that his actions led to his death.
“You have overlooked the fact that the gun was owned by the father, “
No I haven’t. Guns were in the house. Crazy kid wants gun. Crazy kid takes gun. Shoots trump.
Remove gun. Remove ability to shoot Trump. Seriously….. it is not rocket science.
But it is Prior Restraint, which the courts have consistently held is unconstitutional with respect to at least the First Amendment. That is, you would have his father, and all other fathers, deprived of the right to own something based on what they or their children might do with it.
Be careful what you wish for. Explosive devices were found in the kid’s car. Had they been his only option, far more people might well have been killed and maimed. It is not the first time that shooters had also built bombs, but chose to not immediately use them, and were neutralized before they tried to detonate them. Something has to be done to reduce the level of craziness in society, and identify the crazies before they have a chance to act out their craziness. Your preferred course of action would result in ignoring the relatively new and growing problem of craziness in exchange for people being unable to protect themselves against criminals and risk the possibility of being the victim of a bomb.
The signs could have been a way to ‘fit in’ in a conservative neighborhood, or a mischeavous prank by some of the shooter’s former bullies. Who knows why the signs were allegedly there? Personally, I wonder why anyone puts signs in their yard. I consider voting to be a very private act.
A psychopath can be any political pursuasion or none at all.
If you keep calling someone Hitler and say he is going to destroy Democracy and the U.S. Constitution, like the Democrats constantly do with Trump, then you are going to agitate some psychopaths in the general public to the point that they act out violently.
This guy Crooks, is a perfect example of a school shooter or a mass shooter. He fits the template. He was bullied all his life, which turned him into a social misfit, just like all the other shooters, and he finally acted out on it.
His motives remain unknown, but I’m sure his mental condition was harmed by what he heard and read in the Democrat mass media.
Maybe the Secret Service will know his motive and disclose it today in the hearings.
“If you keep calling someone Hitler and say he is going to destroy Democracy and the U.S. Constitution, like the Democrats constantly do with Trump, then you are going to agitate some psychopaths in the general public to the point that they act out violently.”
I am so pleased you posted this Tom because …. I once called you on making racist remarks. You defended yourself by saying they are not racist if they are true. OK, well then, for the same reason I 100% defend anyone who says Trump is like Hitler. He has many comparisons. Calling people vermin is so Hitler like. The way Trump plays the crowds at his rallies is very Hitler like. The way he senses what the crowd want to hear is exactly what Hitler did. The way he riffs and feeds on hate. The way he plays on racial denigration.
And how is someone who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power not a threat to democracy?
“This guy Crooks, is a perfect example of a school shooter or a mass shooter. He fits the template. He was bullied all his life, which turned him into a social misfit, just like all the other shooters, and he finally acted out on it.”
Thank you. My point exactly. His political affiliations are irrelevant here. Give a crazy a gun and they shoot.
“His motives remain unknown, but I’m sure his mental condition was harmed by what he heard and read in the Democrat mass media.”
So are you saying that a politicians and the media should temper what they say about others? OK let’s start with the vile insults Trump threw out yesterday when Biden resigned.Biden a broken, but brave man stood down for the good of his party and country. Most opponents would have had the decency to STFU at this time. Not Trump, he puts the boot in….
“We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
“He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement,”
“All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t.”
So sorry Tom, you have absolutely no right to complain about Trump being called on his actions when you support a man who says stuff like this, at a time like this….
Calling people vermin is so Hitler like.
Willing to hold everyone to the same standard?
The way Trump plays the crowds at his rallies is very Hitler like. The way he senses what the crowd want to hear is exactly what Hitler did.
So being good at playing crowds at rallies is Hitler-like? Is liking dogs Hitler-like? Is being a vegetarian Hitler-like? That’s a ridiculous comparison that would include most strong public speakers.
The way he riffs and feeds on hate. The way he plays on racial denigration.
That’s how the MSM presents it, not necessarily the truth.
And how is someone who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power not a threat to democracy?
DID HE STEP DOWN? Doesn’t seem very hitler-like.
Now, what about all the hysterical screaming about how he’s a threat to our very freedom and the fabric of the country? That’s he’s going to take away all women’s rights? That he’s going to throw people into concentration camps?
NONE of which is based on any evidence.
You think THAT is not inflammatory?
The marxist-left does not need no stinkin’ evidence.
“Calling people vermin is so Hitler like.”
How deplorable !!
Biden is great at putting crowds to sleep.
Kamala great at giggling like a teenage twit !
It is a politician’s job to engage the crowd, Obama did it well.
Most of the racism and societal division comes from the far-left, woke, marxist Democrats.
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Talk about kicking an own goal, simpleton.. !!
How many of your stinking feet can you fit in your rancid gob at one time !!
“Calling people vermin is so Hitler like.”
How deplorable !!
Deplorable a whole lot better than vermin. We kill vermin we just laugh at deplorables.
Biden is great at putting crowds to sleep.
Newsflash Biden is no longer running. But even as a crowd pacifier he beat Trump. What does that say about the Donald?
Kamala great at giggling like a teenage twit !
Just so you know…..I am so hoping that this black woman can beat Trump. It will bring me unmeasurable joy. The fascist, sexist, criminal con man beaten by the black, female, prosecutor.
It is a politician’s job to engage the crowd, Obama did it well.
I have no issue with Trumps skill to capture a crowd. Good on him. It’s what he does with that skill that I have issue with.
Most of the racism and societal division comes from the far-left, woke, marxist Democrats.
Really? Let’s see what level of racism and sexism flows from the right over the next few months. You started it well with your “giggling” sexist comment. Own goal I’d say…..
You make it sound as though you are more concerned about having your twisted sense of justice satisfied than you are about having the most competent person elected. That seems to be a characteristic of the Left: more concern over appearance and symbolism than support for meritocracy. It explains a lot about how England has gone from being a world power to a has-been, also ran society.
“Calling people vermin is so Hitler like.
Willing to hold everyone to the same standard?”
Sure. Name a democrat leader who has used a term that lowers human beings to the status of hated animals?
“So being good at playing crowds at rallies is Hitler-like?”
No. There is a specific way Hitler, as a populist, worked out what the crowd wanted to hear and went with it. Trump does it. It can be used for good or evil. When Trump starts going down the racial hatred path with this strategy it is vile.
The way he riffs and feeds on hate. The way he plays on racial denigration.
That’s how the MSM presents it, not necessarily the truth.
It’s the truth. We have all seen him do it. “They are sending people from their mental institutions….” “They are rapists….”
“Now, what about all the hysterical screaming about how he’s a threat to our very freedom and the fabric of the country?”
He absolutely is. He tried to stop the transfer of power with no evidence whats so ever. He made up the whole the election is stolen thing. As Steve Bannon said before the election. If Trump loses he will say the election was stolen. He had it planned all before the election took place. What more evidence do you need?
I’m only going to address that last point, Simon, because that it the biggest issue.
It’s been pointed out that he used LEGAL means – that is, worked within the system – to challenge the results of the election (I know you will disagree, there is no convincing you otherwise). Whatever he THINKS about the election, in the end he abided by its results.
He made up the whole the election is stolen thing.
So? Hillary has said the same about 2016. Even if you dismiss that, are you saying that a politicians opinion about an election is a threat to democracy and freedom?
If Trump loses he will say the election was stolen.
Again, a politicians opinion is a threat to freedom?
Funny, though – it’s not what he’ll do if he loses that’s framed as the threat, but what he’ll supposedly do if he wins. You are arguing the opposite.
What more evidence do you need?
How about evidence “That’s he’s going to take away all women’s rights? That he’s going to throw people into concentration camps?” if he wins?
If someone is an ACTUAL threat to our democracy and freedom, then it follows that he MUST be stopped or our lives are at stake. THAT is the most dangerous rhetoric. But again, you won’t accept that. You are participating in the rhetoric.
“It’s been pointed out that he used LEGAL means – that is, worked within the system – to challenge the results of the election (I know you will disagree, there is no convincing you otherwise). Whatever he THINKS about the election, in the end he abided by its results.”
Haha you are kidding right. Tell half the story why don’t you. Yep he tried the legal path and when that failed he set off to use illegal means. He has never conceded that he lost. Never. Unlike every other president in history. And Hillary never tried to subvert the democratic process. She didn’t use a group of fake electors and send a rabble to stop the democratic process.
Clyde has already addressed most of that better than I can, so I’ll leave you with his response.
But you still won’t acknowledge that HE STEPPED DOWN.
Again, where is the evidence “That’s he’s going to take away all women’s rights? That he’s going to throw people into concentration camps?”
The hate-mongering is all about the hysterical claims about what we would do if he wins, with no evidence whatsoever to back them.
If a woman goes to the police with a complaint of rape, they do not send her away and tell her come back when she has evidence that will allow them to prosecute the perpetrator. Instead, the police do the investigation and then make a recommendation to the public prosecutor as to whether of not the evidence will probably lead to a conviction. Basically what happened is that the courts told Trump to come back when he had evidence — which would have required a bipartisan body with power of subpoena and investigative staff to obtain — and the Media routinely called what Trump said a “lie,” without any evidence and judgement to demonstrate that what he said was knowingly a lie. It was a miscarriage of justice which you support, despite obvious evidence to the contrary.
““We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!””
“He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement,”
“All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t.”
EVERY word of that is the truth.
Sorry if you think telling the truth is evil. !
Says all we need to know about you, though.
They are not irrelevant. This was not a random act of violence. It was, instead, a high-profile political target. Certainly the Media has culpability in generating anger towards Trump. Remember the old aphorism, “Two wrongs don’t make a right.” The Media has more influence, collectively, than any single person, because the Media also controls what gets reported to the public and how it is framed. The Media, therefore, has a responsibility to set an example and establish standards. Unfortunately, the Media has consistently set the standard in the basement.
My recollection of the events was that there were documented irregularities in the collection and counting of ballots, and there were upsets in some districts where the pre-election polling favored Trump. There were also claims made that Biden received more votes than there were registered voters in some districts. Not surprisingly, Trump and others felt there was evidence of voting fraud. The courts refused to get involved by saying without evidence Trump did not have standing.
What Trump wanted was an immediate investigation of the various charges. That didn’t happen. What Trump and the rioters in the capitol wanted was a delay in the casting of electoral votes, not a “stop” to the peaceful transfer of power completely, so that the charges could be investigated. It is not unlike inspecting the forms before pouring the concrete after a whistle blower claimed the forms were not placed according to code.
“There were also claims made that Biden received more votes than there were registered voters in some districts. “
They were investigated and found to be wrong. Complete nonsense.
Luser is looking totally juvenile.. as usual.
Can’t cope with anyone being older that 12, his mental age.
Trump looks great to me. I guess it’s all in one’s persepctive.
Actually, Trump looks like his mind is still very much in its prime.
Physically quite fit as well.
Aging like a fine wine! 🙂
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Unlike your mind which is highly unlikely to even progress passed that of a 12 year old.
Does this mean dementia Joe or cackling Kamala meets Benjamin Netanyahu.
Either way, USA leadership will be seen as a complete farce on the world scene. !
I would say all the world leaders have known the condition of U.S. leaders.
It’s the American people who have been kept in the dark about Joe’s condition.
“so who will replace Joe?”
It’s Kamala, at the moment.
I saw a report earlier today that claimed the reason Biden finally decided to quit was because he was shown internal Democrat polls that showed Biden had no path to victory over Trump.
What I would like to know is did the Democrats do internal polls on Kamala, and what were the results? Did she do better than Biden? The public polls I have seen show she doesn’t do any better than Biden against Trump.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/what-happens-now-a-dem-civil-war/
“Obama’s statement emphasized the “leaders of our party” deciding. So much for democracy.”
Well that article turned out to be a flop. Kamala sailed on through with the party behind her. You have to stop reading those propaganda sites…..
“ The public polls I have seen show she doesn’t do any better than Biden against Trump.”
That is correct at this point in time. But she has not campaigned at all and Trump has. I have no idea whether she can beat Trump, but there was no way Biden was going to make another four years so there was no option.
Since a bit of this open thread became a forum on radiation, heat transport, and energy conversion, I thought a couple of additional relevant points might be of value.
Near the Earth’s surface bulk transport from convection and evaporation dominate probably everywhere over net radiation transport back to space. Radiation in a clear sky carries more and more of the transport burden as one rises in the atmosphere. At some height there is little bulk transport simply because there is little mass and almost no water vapor.
Someone upthread mentioned that LWIR absorbed in the atmosphere is converted to kinetic energy of diatomic molecules. Since much discussion involves conversion of PE and internal energy to KE, this produces a possible point of confusion. The KE of diatomic molecules (O2 and N2) is part of internal energy, not part of what we’d call KE of the atmosphere. The KE of molecules makes up the velocity distribution in a gas and would be related to the local temperature of the gas. The KE of molecule translation can, though collisions, be transferred to various molecular vibrations and rotations and thence to the radiation field again. The transfer of energy back and forth between matter and radiation is quite complicated and is not uni-directional.
In any problem involving radiation boundary conditions are very important to understanding what goes on. The atmosphere has an obvious lower boundary that behaves nearly like a black body. But there is no distinct upper boundary. Instead there is a broad region of varying temperature, density and composition with a growing net upward radiation transport. It’s a complex boundary – there is no layer of 255K where radiation leaves the planet. Why the surface boundary is so integral to understanding what goes on is this. Radiation from the “black body” surface is a continuum determined by its absolute temperature. Some of this radiation is absorbed immediately by IR active gasses; i.e. the 15um wavelength is almost completely absorbed in about 10m of atmosphere by CO2. But this is only a small portion of the spectrum. Through conversions a portion of this radiation reaches the ground surface again (the GHE). Along the way all information of it having begun as 15um radiation is lost. It is absorbed by the ground as a black absorber, becomes “internal energy”, then emitted again in a thermal spectrum with some probability in a wavelength band transparent to IR radiation. Out to space it goes.
In clear sky the tropics are about 12% transparent, in midlatitudes 20+% transparent, in the subarctic or above 2,000 meters in mountainous regions 30+% transparent. Thus, the outgoing boundary for radiation starts at the ground surface. Add clouds and the picture is more complex for LWIR and solar irradiance both and the complexity is at a scale smaller than the cell dimensions in computer models.
I find your comments interesting with bits of truth and much that seems a bit confused. This statement in particular, “The KE of diatomic molecules (O2 and N2) is part of internal energy, not part of what we’d call KE of the atmosphere,” makes no sense to me. How can the kinetic energy of 99% of the atmosphere not count?
it may surprise you to know that at STP the non-radiative deactivation of GHG molecules exceeds the spontaneous emission rate by a factor of approximately 50,000:1. This has serious implications for GHE narrative that almost every one has acquiesced to.
I have submitted our essay on this topic to WUWT and hope to have it published here in the near future. In the meantime, we have presented the work in video podcast on the Tom Nelson channel.
https://youtu.be/JtvRVNIEOMM?si=UAiRKr0tTeuQvjvc
If you don’t have an open mind, don’t bother. On the other hand, if you think debunking the GHE would be of benefit give it a watch and I’d be happy to discuss any questions you might have.
The random translation of molecules, their collisions etc, do not move the center of mass of a volume of gas. Thus, there is no macro-scale motion of the air, which is what we would call KE. There is still energy involved, however, and this energy is part of what we call internal energy. In fact, the distribution of speeds of molecules is what we would identify as something proportional to the temperature of the gas. It’s one item that connects kinetic theory of gasses to thermodynamics.
I don’t get involved in “debunking” the GHE because I can calculate it. I can also measure it. I don’t debunk things that have an objective reality. Now, whether its modification by a trace amount of IR active gasses is a danger to life on earth or a stable climate, whatever that means, well … I doubt it.
That’s an interesting perspective. Based on that, from your perspective, what is the GHE, how do you calculate it, and how do you measure it?
This doesn’t seem quite correct. Granted the center of mass does not change but something does occur. There are two possibilities. One, the pressure rises when volume is constant or the volume increases when the pressure is constant. Both of these will cause a given parcel of air to rise, as in hot air rises. It doesn’t matter if it is H2O, N2, or O2. Energy is then transported upwards to a different location, i.e., convection.
I normally consider the rising air to be doing work against gravity which causes a temperature reduction as a parcel rises.
Harold the Organic Chemist Says:
What about water which is the major greenhouse gas. Presently, a cubic meter of air contains only about 0.8 grams of CO2, which can heat up air by only a very small amount. At 20 deg. C, a 1 cubic meter of air has a mass of 1.20 kilograms.
At 70 deg. F and 70% RH, the concentration of water is 17,780 ppm. This is 14.3 grams of water per cubic meter of air. For these weather conditions, water is about 98% of the greenhouse effect.
We really do not have to worry about this trace amount of CO2 in the air.
That is one of the conclusions of our work. Water is everything, and it provides a natural negative feedback. Climate change is natural. We have no control.
In case you haven’t heard, Joe Biden has withdrawn from the 2024 presidential race and endorsed Kamala Harris for president.
roflmao.
Just trying to imagine the cackler trying to speak with Xi or Putin or the Iranians.
America would become a complete joke, far worse than under Biden.
Joe Biden and Kamala both speak gibberish. Xi and Putin probably couldn’t tell the difference. the only difference I can see is that Joe Biden was bought and paid for by the Chicoms and Russians, whereas, I don’t see that Kamala has been compromised in this way. But she’s so stupid it doesn’t really matter.
We are in unknown territory when it comes to deterring our enemies. Just the notion that Trump is going to be president again will cause them some pause. One of the Bad Actors may try something in the next few months since they think they can probably get away with it as the U.S. is distracted. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mad Mullahs of Iran set their surrogate terrorists into attack mode again and blow up the Middle East even more. It would have never happened under Trump. When Trump left office the Mad Mullahs were practically bankrupt and could not afford to support terrorist actions. Now, under Biden, the Mad Mullahs have 250 billion dollars. Plenty of money to start trouble in the Middle East, and that’s just what they did. And Biden is enabling the Mad Mullahs to build nuclear weapons. The latest report says the Mad Mullahs have enough enriched uranium to build two nuclear weapons now.
That’s the Joe Biden legacy.
It will be interesting to see how Harris tries to balance the ‘river to the sea’ crowd vs. the deep pockets of the so-called donor class. My concern is that both groups are so infected with TDS that they will hold their noses and support the Democrats.
I think Kamala is going to express even more support for Hamas than did Biden.
I agree, which I think would be a big issue for one of the most loyal and financially supportive blocks within the Democrat party’s coalition.
Yes, and some of my in-laws have already said they’re ‘energized’ by the news. This election was never going to be a layup, but I think it will be tougher yet now that Biden’s obvious dementia is no longer an obstacle to the Democrat base and the regime media.
Soon they will say, “Kamala has always been our candidate.”
And “we’ve always been at war with Eastasia” (or Russia or whom ever).
If a self identified “climate skeptic” believes so strongly in the “Greenhouse Effect” that they won’t even look at work that might refute it, are they truly a “climate skeptic”?
I just saw a commercial for one of those retractable hoses.
Now, I have two and, for what I use them for, they’re great.
But this one for a newer model that had “copper infused” connections. (I read that a copper alloy.). That’s fine.
But they showed a scene where kids were drinking from the hose and claiming, because of the “copper infused” connection, it was lead free.
That can’t be true.
“Copper infused connections” won’t remove lead if it’s already in the source water. (From plumbing or otherwise,) Even in California.
Deceptive advertising always bugs me.
(Not faulting the newer version of the “self retracing” hose. Just it’s commercial.)
Story Tip
From CNBC (Business News)
23 July 2024
Reporter – Sam Meredith
“World logs hottest day since records began — with fresh highs expected in the coming months”
“The EU’s Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S) found that the global average surface temperature rose to 17.09 degrees Celsius (62.76 degrees Fahrenheit) on July 21.”
Climate crisis: World logs hottest day since records began (cnbc.com)
I wonder if the data exists for heat vs cold related deaths for the period 1930-1940 which had numerous heat waves. AC was absurdly expensive then