Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. writes on The Climate fix (and asks me to share)
Public Debate Challenge to Judd Legum
People are funny. Judd Legum is a die-hard partisan who works for the Center for American Progress. For some reason, four years ago he decided to use his position to (successfully) get me removed as a writer for 538. You all know the story.
Well Judd is back to harass. Apparently more than 160 articles about me at CAP were not enough.
Well, I’ve long had enough abuse and bullying from these guys. So Judd, rather than you sniping at me on Twitter with lies and innuendo, let’s do this in person and for real. Let’s debate the issues that you profess to care so deeply about, and that I am so wrong about, in a public forum. Should be an easy win for you.
OK@juddlegum of the Center for American Progress persists with an aging smear campaign against me.
Let’s cut to the chase.
I challenge him to a public debate on climate science & policy.
Please spread this far and wide.
Let’s see if he can back up his Wikileaks🙏
I’m ready Judd. https://t.co/c72XwXm1ho
— Roger Pielke Jr. (@RogerPielkeJr) April 5, 2018
I have no doubt we can use the event to raise money for important charities. Mine will be Doctors Without Borders.
Judd, whenever convenient, I’ll come to you. You can come here. Whatever.
What do you say? You got some substance behind the Wikileaks and Twitter bravado?
It’s guaranteed he will decline the offer. And that will tell you all you need to know.
Roger has been an occasional commentator elsewhere. He gives his views politely and has been attacked and savaged. It is his fault because he did not toe the line on hurricane frequency and damage. Instead of facing up to the facts, years of decreasing hurricanes and damage costs the messenger is attacked. This has been a repeated line whenever anyone with warmist views has access to the mainstream media.
The hypocrisy at times in not allowing people to put alternative views safely is a worry.
Basically it is another way to remove the skeptic viewpoint and save face rather than debate the issues.
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Judd Legum.
A tweeter with invective?
Do not see the need to do this, Roger.
Has he got in street cred for you to do this, does he have a scientific or a climate interest background or is he just an activist.
If so I would ignore him.
And Nate.
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It would be good to see Roger becoming an active force once again but friends and family with liberal green views are best not offended too often, as we all unfortunately know.
warmist should read skeptic, sorry all. Mod?
It won’t end well for the Climate Alarmists. All they have are insults and sophistry.
Dr. Willie Soon Exposes Scientific Deceit; Is Anyone Listening?
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https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2018/04/05/dr-willie-soon-exposes-scientific-deceit-is-anyone-listening/
If Society Can’t Trust Scientists, Who Can They Trust? Climate Sophist is Playing San Francisco Judge as a Complete Fool
Dr. Myles Allen must think that the San Francisco Judge is a complete fool. I just finished a post refuting many of his claims, but one example needed to be singled out. In his presentation, Dr. Myles Allen replaced the poster child Mt. Kilimanjaro, which was exposed as a fraud in the Climategate emails, … Continue reading
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2018/03/25/climate-alarmist-is-playing-san-francisco-judge-as-a-complete-fool/
Some might view that SF judge as foolish, while in others’ view, complicit.
Yep, I hope that isn’t the outcome. A whole lot is riding on that case. We are either a nation of laws and justices, or a nation of looters.
The public debate is the best venue for the Climate Realists. Climate Alarmism crumbles under scrutiny. Just look at what happened in SF. It isn’t pretty.
Climate Sophistry In San Francisco; Half-Truths are Twice the Lie
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2018/03/24/sophistry-in-san-francisco-half-truths-are-twice-the-lie/
Scratch any Chicken Licken and you will find someone who’s just plain….
buk-buk-bwaaaack!
Facebook has one less harasser this week, but there are plenty more “vegan PETA” members out there.
Center for American Progress.
That tells you all you need to know about the low life right there.
I think Judd Legume is a bean-head.
Pea brain.
That was my next thought…. Or maybe a beanie-baby.
It must be annoying, frustrating and enraging but why should a highly qualified and respected scientist bother with the emanations from a second rate political hack, with no known scientific background, published in a left wing, possibly corrupt lobby group?
The nearest I could get to finding out who or what funds CAP was the following:
https://www.thenation.com/article/secret-donors-behind-center-american-progress-and-other-think-tanks-updated-524/ .
CAP is missing the letter “R”.
CARP?
Putting it politely, yes.
Must have been a liberal arts grad.
One suggestion Roger: There are many suitable and fair venues for this (suggested) debate — it’s a mistake to challenge your adversary entirely on his terms (you’ve given him the option of choosing to meet you in a bat cave at 3 a.m.).
What are the chances of a live broadcast on WUWT TV Anthony?
Even if a debate occurred, the portion of the audience that was activist alarmist would hear only what THEIR representative said, while what Roger said would sound like “la la la la la” [with fingers in ears].
Alarmist ears convert all entering sounds into “la la la la la” [with fingers in ears], if certain key words do or do not exist. For example, “Humans are destroying the planet” gets through loud and clear, while “Climate sensitivity has been grossly overestimated” gets transformed into “la la la la la” [with fingers in ears], and then nothing else supporting the “la la la la la” gets in, because it all sounds like “la la la la la” too, after that.
This is the main advantage of being “right”.
Too little too late.
A lawsuit for totuous interference with his job, precede by challenging Legum and pointing iut his utter illiteracy regarding climate from the start would have helped.
If we really want civil discourse, bring back the duel.
As a 5-time national qualifier, I’ll pick sabers, thanks.
[The mods also choose sabers. Light-sabers. Explosive light sabers. With the add-on hand-grenade launcher. .mod]
Apparently the mods have been binge watching Star Wars movies with the odd Rambo saga thrown in. 😉
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Post his home address.
“I have no doubt we can use the event to raise money for important charities. Mine will be Doctors Without Borders.”
They openly support the invasion of western Europe. I forbid you to donate
to them !!!
Roger I will gladly make a financial contribution to the event if and when it happens
Two years where you clearly qualified as their “Man of the Year.” Wow.
It would be interesting to see a similar graph of posts attacking or mocking Anthony Watts from the various sites obsessed with him. Entire blogs would vanish (including this one I suppose) without Mr. Watts.
Isn’t that where the hockey stick comes from?
those trying to get Scott Pruitt fired need to be called out.
4 Apr: TheLid: Media Campaign Against EPA’s Scott Pruitt Orchestrated By Obama & Clinton Cronies
by J.E. Dyer
My contribution in this post is adding a bit about the source going in. As (Daily Caller’s Michael) Bastasch notes, the source of much of the negative narrative-building on Pruitt is the Environmental Integrity Project (EIP). The EIP is a nonprofit founded in 2002 by Eric Schaeffer, a disgruntled EPA official. Here is how EIP describes it…
EIP has a strong animus against coal, as you can learn from the website…
Regarding funding, prominent sources for EIP, as documented by a congressional report in 2014, are the Wallace Global Foundation and the Energy Foundation, which in turn gets much of its funding from the Sea Change Foundation set up by renewables billionaire Nat Simons, a major beneficiary of Obama’s green-energy cronyism. (And yes, both foundation sources send money to and from the Tides Foundation and others in the standard list of progressive and radical-left money sumps.)…
https://lidblog.com/media-campaign-against-scott-pruitt/
5 Apr: Fox News: Trump and the US need Scott Pruitt to stay at EPA
by Steve Milloy
“I do,” President Trump said Thursday afternoon when asked by reporters whether he still has confidence in embattled Environmental Protection Agency head Scott Pruitt. And well the president should.
Pruitt has been the most effective appointee in implementing the Trump agenda. If Pruitt is forced out of his job because of charges he behaved unethically, America will suffer…
First, President Trump would have a hard time finding an EPA chief as competent and committed as Pruitt. Next, even if the president did, Senate Democrats would go all out to block confirmation.
President Trump should ignore the partisan attacks over trivialities. Let’s keep our eyes on the ball of EPA reform and restraint. Our national interest demands it.
Just let Pruitt do it.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/04/05/trump-and-us-need-scott-pruitt-to-stay-at-epa.html
flood the White House with support Pruitt.
The smart Vegas money is on Roger.
In my experience, many of the people who go into journalism are people who have failed at everything else they have tried.
As a result they feel the need to prove their superiority. They do this by bullying those who don’t have the resources to fight back.
MarkW, I tend to disagree, in my own experience. I think students go into journalism because they start out with the (right) passion for being investigators and storytellers for the sake of an open democracy. The problem is, these students arrive at college– fresh out of high school, highly impressionable and desiring to impress– and they get sucked into the giant political-academic monster that almost immediately exploits their impressionability. It’s truly a sad thing to witness– I was able to intermingle with journalism students while pursuing my own undergrad and it was frankly sad to see how quick the “machine” of progressive ideology could convert incoming students into what I can only classify as “troops for the cause”. Truly, very sad. Occasionally a bright star would emerge that defied the predictability of the progressive ideology machine but they were and still are very rare.
Funny, in french Judd Legum sounds like “jus de légume”, that means “vegetable juice”