The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels

Review and Summary of “The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels”

By Andy May

The best-selling book The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels was first published November 27, 2014 by Penguin. The author, Alex Epstein, took a BA in Philosophy from Duke University in 2002. He is the President of the Center for Industrial Progress, a former fellow of the Ayn Rand Institute and an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute. He was also named as one of the top 10 in Rolling Stone’s 2013 “Global Warming Denier Elite.” High praise indeed! He was fourth on the list.

Epstein presents a very well written discussion of the climate change debate. He destroys the 97% consensus myth, explains that the carbon dioxide greenhouse effect decreases logarithmically with concentration and shows that the climate computer models used to compute man’s influence on climate have never successfully predicted anything. He also shows that global warming has not increased extreme weather of any kind and that the dangers from extreme weather are less today than at any time in man’s history largely due to fossil fuels. He discusses Craig Idso’s pioneering research proving that increasing carbon dioxide acts as a powerful fertilizer for many plants. But readers of this review know these facts, so we will focus on his discussion of the merits of fossil fuels. He is a good writer and has superhuman skills at laying out a compelling logical argument. He would have put Daniel Webster and Clarence Darrow to shame. I highly recommend the book.

According to ExxonMobil’s 2016 report, in 2014 fossil fuels produced 82% of the energy in the world. Fossil fuels have produced more than 80% of the energy used in the US for over 100 years according to the EIA. They predict that in 2040 fossil fuels will still produce 78% of the world’s energy. Oil will grow at a 0.7% annual rate and natural gas will grow 1.6% per year. Coal will slightly decline. Yet, many in society think fossil fuels are bad for us and the world.

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Figure 1: Energy demand in 2014 and 2040, by source

The book challenges this idea that fossil fuels have a negative effect on society. It is a fascinating, fact filled and well-reasoned discussion of the impact fossil fuels have had on our world since they were introduced on a mass scale over 120 years ago. There are 7 billion people on the Earth today and we are better fed, live better and longer than nearly every one of the 900 million people who lived in 1800. It is worth remembering that the average life expectancy, at birth, in 1800, in the UK was about 39 years. Epstein argues that with fossil fuels:

“We don’t take a safe environment and make it dangerous; we take a dangerous environment and make it far safer.”

So what about those that argue against fossil fuels? Fossil fuels are largely responsible for the quality of life we enjoy today, the food we eat, the rapidly falling rate of poverty, our longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality and many other humanitarian benefits. How could someone argue to take away fossil fuels if they valued human life? It seems they value “pristine nature” over human life. Figure 2, below, shows the expected result:

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Figure 2

In McKibben’s book The End of Nature, he argues that we need a ‘humbler world” and “Human happiness [should] be of secondary importance.” A Los Angeles Times review in 1989 of McKibbon’s book calls man a cancer and plague upon the Earth. The author, David Graber, continues:

“McKibben is a biocentrist, and so am I. We are not interested in the utility of a particular species, or free-flowing river, or ecosystem, to mankind. They have intrinsic value, more value–to me–than another human body, or a billion of them. Human happiness, and certainly human fecundity, are not as important as a wild and healthy planet.”

Whew! We might need to report him to the Department of Homeland Security. This is the precise opposite of Epstein’s priority of humanity first. Thus, to effectively debate the use of fossil fuels it is important that the debaters state their priorities. Does humanity come first? Or does minimizing human impact on the environment come first? It turns out that this choice makes a huge difference.

The book argues that even if fossil fuels created no waste, including no CO2, if they were even cheaper, if they would last forever, the “Green” movement would still oppose them. The Green movement is not just for a pristine environment untouched by man, they are against human progress. In the 1980’s it was thought that controlled fusion of hydrogen into helium was just around the corner. This was pollution free energy. What did the environmental leaders have to say about that?

Jeremy Rifkin: “It’s the worst thing that could happen to our planet.” Inexhaustible power only gives man an infinite ability to exhaust the planet’s resources, to destroy its fragile balance.

Paul Ehrlich: Developing fusion for human beings would be “like giving a machine gun to an idiot child.”

Amory Lovins: “It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it.”

This “idiot child” would like an inexhaustible, clean source of power. It does often seem that radical environmentalists think everyone else is an “idiot child.” Prince Phillip, the former head of the World Wildlife Fund wanted to be reincarnated as a deadly virus in order to cure overpopulation.

Keeping the air, water and land as clean as possible is a benefit for man and the environment. But, fossil fuels can and do help keep our environment clean. Ask anyone in London (or New York for that matter) in 1894, wading through the horse and human manure in the streets at the time. Automobiles powered by fossil fuels were seen as a huge benefit for the environment. They had mostly replaced horses by 1912 and London was a much cleaner place for it. Automobiles and coal fired electrical plants do emit toxins and cause air pollution, but because of modern technology the air in the US is cleaner now, according to the EPA, than in 1970. This is despite the fact that we burn much more coal and gasoline than we did then. Eliminating fossil fuels would cause untold death, famine, and disease. Their elimination will not help the environment. As humans, in order to live healthy, long, quality lives we must modify our environment. We have to be careful about it to be sure, but that does not mean we should minimize it. In Epstein’s words:

“The relationship between energy and environment is usually considered in a negative way; how can we use the energy that will least “impact the environment”? But we have to be careful; if we’re on a human standard of value, we need to have an impact on our environment. Transforming our environment is how we survive. … If we’re on a human standard, we should be concerned in a negative way only about impacts of energy use that harm our environment from a human perspective …”

He continues:

“But we should also assume that energy gives us more ability to improve our environment, to make it healthier and safer for human beings. … the natural environment is not naturally a healthy, safe place; that’s why human beings historically had a life expectancy of thirty.”

Finally:

“Being forced to rely on solar, wind, and biofuels would be a horror beyond anything we can imagine, as a civilization that runs on cheap, plentiful, reliable energy would see its machines dead, its productivity destroyed, its resources disappearing.”

Consider, as Mr. Epstein does, that the average human burns at least 1,800 kilocalories of energy a day. The range is from around 1,800 to 8,000 (very intense exercise can burn 12,000 kilocalories in a day) depending upon the level of activity. When we say “calories” of food we are really talking about kilocalories of energy. A 100 Watt light bulb if left on for 32 hours uses 2,000 kilocalories of energy. In the United States in 2011, the average person’s daily energy use (according to the EIA) is 216,095 kilocalories (very similar to the value Epstein gives of 186,000). This includes gasoline, electricity and other outside sources of energy. This is between 27 and 120 human beings worth of energy. So, Mr. Epstein makes this point:

“In the past, before modern energy technology, the main way to overcome the problem of human weakness was putting others into a state of servitude or slavery— which meant that only some could prosper, and at the great expense of others. But with machine energy and machine servants, no one has to suffer…”

We are all descended from slaves, the Roman’s, English, Vikings, Greeks, Chinese, Indians, Native American Indians, every culture in the past had slaves. Slavery really only disappeared after man learned to build machines that used fossil fuels for power. One of Epstein’s themes is “energy is ability.”

As Milton Friedman, the famous economist once wrote:

“Industrial progress, mechanical improvement, all of the great wonders of the modern era have meant little to the wealthy. The rich in ancient Greece would have benefited hardly at all from modern plumbing— running servants replaced running water. Television and radio— the patricians of Rome could enjoy the leading musicians and actors in their home, could have the leading artists as domestic retainers. Ready-to-wear clothing, supermarkets— all these and many other modern developments would have added little to their life. They would have welcomed the improvements in transportation and in medicine, but for the rest, the great achievements of western capitalism have redounded primarily to the benefit of the ordinary person. These achievements have made available to the masses conveniences and amenities that were previously the exclusive prerogative of the rich and powerful.”

Thus, the poor and middle classes benefit the most from fossil fuels. Is it any wonder that the main proponents of taking them away are the wealthy like Al Gore (2 mansions, $200M), John Kerry (“5 mansions Kerry”) and Leonardo DiCaprio (also 5 mansions)?

There are seven billion people in the world today 1.3 billion of them have no electricity, three billion more do not have adequate access to electricity. For everyone to have the access to electricity that every American enjoys would require four times the electricity we produce today. When one considers that 82% of our energy comes from fossil fuels how can we imagine quadrupling the world’s supply of electricity with only intermittent wind and solar?

Regardless of whether climate change is man-made or not, it can be dangerous. Traditionally, drought, extreme temperatures, wildfires and storms caused many deaths. But, climate related deaths worldwide have fallen by 98% in the last eighty years. Further, the data shows that there is a dramatic difference between the heavy fossil fuel users and the light fossil fuels users. You are much safer in an industrialized country than in a developing country. For example, the United States has had zero deaths from drought in the last decade according to the EM-DAT International Disaster Database.

Historically, drought is the number one climate related cause of death. Worldwide it has gone down by 99.98% in the last 80 years for many energy related reasons. Drought relief convoys, more food due to modern fossil fueled agriculture, better fossil fueled water wells and water treatment plants make drought a lesser threat. As Epstein says in Chapter 5:

“The popular climate discussion has the issue backward. It looks at man as a destructive force for climate livability, one who makes the climate dangerous because we use fossil fuels. In fact, the truth is the exact opposite; we don’t take a safe climate and make it dangerous; we take a dangerous climate and make it safe. High-energy civilization, not climate, is the driver of climate livability. No matter what, climate will always be naturally hazardous— and the key question will always be whether we have the adaptability to handle it …”

Epstein argues that the idea that we live in an ideal and delicate climate we are about to screw up is silly:

“The sophisticated version of the idea that our climate is naturally safe or ideal says that because man has flourished in the current climatological period, the 10,000-year post– Ice Age stretch known as the Holocene, that is the only global climate we can live in and if there’s a risk that fossil fuels will break the “natural” temperature highs of that last 10,000 years, we need to stop using them. “Just like us,” says Bill McKibben, “our crops are adapted to the Holocene, the 11,000-year period of climatic stability we’re now leaving . . . in the dust.” This argument does not reflect reality. First of all, the Holocene is an abstraction; it is not a “climate” anyone lived in; it is a summary of a climate system that contains an incredible variety of climates that individuals lived in. And in practice, we can live in pretty much any of them if we are industrialized and pretty much none of them if we aren’t. The open secret of our relationship to climate is how good we are at living in different climates thanks to technology.”

Weather and climate change matter to us, but much less than before the age of fossil fuels. Too hot, go into the air conditioned house; too cold, go into the house heated by natural gas. Absent fossil fuels? Best of luck. Mother Nature is not a real mother, it doesn’t take care of us. To have a good life we need to transform our environment and we need energy to do that.

I’ll close with a quote from Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand that Alex Epstein included in the book. In the midst of a violent storm, Hank Reardon is talking to industrialist Francisco d’Anconia in the safety of d’Anconia’s house. They are watching the storm through a window:

“You stood here and watched the storm with the greatest pride one can ever feel— because you are able to have summer flowers and half-naked women in your house on a night like this, in demonstration of your victory over that storm. And if it weren’t for you, most of those who are here would be left helpless at the mercy of that wind in the middle of some such plain.”

Do you wish to go back to nature? Is your goal to minimize your impact on the environment or is your goal to improve the environment? Epstein shows we should not conflate minimizing our impact with improving the environment. Man is not totally depraved and evil as the environmentalists and the Calvinist’s believe, we can improve the environment and do good work. The key point is, if we value human life we will value fossil fuels and what they have allowed us to do.

If you want the book, it is available at Amazon.

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Jacob Zeise
August 12, 2016 10:38 pm

Great review. Nit picking here, but that conversation between Reardon and D’Anconia happened in Reardon’s house, not D’Anconia’s.
Epstein’s focus on the alternative standards of value are of paramount importance to any environmental discussion, especially climate change. Are we for humans or are we for non-impact?
The machine calorie discussion may be the most interesting in the long term. I am excited to see someone develop that concept so it is more easily communicated. That could be a huge “Ah ha!” moment for people struggling to understand the benefits of fossil fuels.

SAMURAI
August 12, 2016 11:10 pm

It’s becoming painfully obvious that Leftists’ CAGW policies are very: anti-human, tyrannical, economically disastrous, ineffective, unsustainable, irrational, illogical and anti-capitalistic, while skeptics’ epistemology is very pro-human, free-market based, sustainable, economically sound, effective, efficient, rational and assures a prosperous future.
Every year that passes sees skeptical views becoming increasing validated, while the CAGW hypothesis becomes increasingly absurd, and Leftists’ wastefuly squandering $trillions on unwarranted CO2 sequestration policies becomes increasingly insane…
Once the CAGW hypothesis becomes completely untenable to the point of ridicule, I hope the world learns the important lesson that Leftist ideology is a failed, oppressive and dangerous construct that needs to be abandoned. Like the CAGW scam they created, it doesn’t work.

Reply to  SAMURAI
August 13, 2016 2:39 pm

But it is worse than anti-human. The “greens” are against every other form of life as well. For example, in a Trenberth presentation, the emergence of a living tree was proof of global warming. The change from ice to tree indeed indicates warming–and they object!

Reply to  ladylifegrows
August 13, 2016 2:44 pm

The emergence of a living tree in the arctic at a place of ice melt

gallopingcamel
August 13, 2016 1:42 am

In 2002 Alex wrote some features for the Duke University “Chronicle” that impressed me so much that I met with him to find out why he was prepared to put up with the negative consequences of denying “Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming’. It is no surprise to me that he has written this excellent book.
The Duke university physics department has employed several “Deniers” including this camel, Robert G. Brown, Nicola Scafetta and Edward Bilpuch. Duke university is also home to the “Nicholas School of the Environment” that has employed “Alarmists” such as William Chameides and Gabriele C. Hegerl.
Over the last ten years the Nicholas School has expanded into space previously occupied by the Physics Department. IMHO opinion this shows that it pays to “Go Along to Get Along”. Science in the USA is no longer a “Search for Truth”. All that matters is government patronage.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  gallopingcamel
August 13, 2016 10:26 pm

I miss Dr. Brown’s posts here. I hope all is well for him.

biff33
August 13, 2016 2:02 am

The book argues that even if fossil fuels created no waste, including no CO2, if they were even cheaper, if they would last forever, the “Green” movement would still oppose them. The Green movement is not just for a pristine environment untouched by man, they are against human progress.

They are against human progress because they are for a pristine environment untouched by man, as your text following this passage explains.
Thank you for this review.

August 13, 2016 3:37 am

Presentation of Evidence Suggesting Temperature Drives Atmospheric CO2 more than CO2 Drives Temperature
September 4, 2015
By Allan MacRae
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/06/13/presentation-of-evidence-suggesting-temperature-drives-atmospheric-co2-more-than-co2-drives-temperature/
Observations and Conclusions:
1. Temperature, among other factors, drives atmospheric CO2 much more than CO2 drives temperature. The rate of change dCO2/dt is closely correlated with temperature and thus atmospheric CO2 LAGS temperature by ~9 months in the modern data record
2. CO2 also lags temperature by ~~800 years in the ice core record, on a longer time scale.
3. Atmospheric CO2 lags temperature at all measured time scales.
4. CO2 is the feedstock for carbon-based life on Earth, and Earth’s atmosphere and oceans are clearly CO2-deficient. CO2 abatement and sequestration schemes are nonsense.
5. Based on the evidence, Earth’s climate is insensitive to increased atmospheric CO2 – there is no global warming crisis.
6. Recent global warming was natural and irregularly cyclical – the next climate phase following the ~20 year pause will probably be global cooling, starting by ~2020 or sooner.
7. Adaptation is clearly the best approach to deal with the moderate global warming and cooling experienced in recent centuries.
8. Cool and cold weather kills many more people than warm or hot weather, even in warm climates. There are about 100,000 Excess Winter Deaths every year in the USA, up to 50,000 in the UK and several million worldwide.
9. Green energy schemes have needlessly driven up energy costs, reduced electrical grid reliability and contributed to increased winter mortality, which especially targets the elderly and the poor.
10. Cheap, abundant, reliable energy is the lifeblood of modern society. When misinformed politicians fool with energy systems, real people suffer and die. That is the tragic legacy of false global warming alarmism.
Allan MacRae, Calgary, June 12, 2015

Toneb
Reply to  Allan MacRae
August 13, 2016 9:50 am

My rebuttal of your points:
1).The point is that carbon-cycle CO2 is not the problem – ACO2 is.
That is leading …. obviously.
2).As Above – yes science does know this – climate scientists found that fact out for you.
Anthro Co2 is leading. It’s a GHG and so reduces Earth’s cooling to space.
3).Again irrelevant as ACO2 leads and is what has caused the 280ppm to 400ppm rise in atmos CO2 since the start of the industrial revolution.
4).How can they be “deficient”, as man evolved during a period when CO2 was at 400! Don’t need any more my friend.
And Ocean PH is slowly reducing. That means it is absorbing more CO2 than it is out-gassing.
Out of balance. The carbon cycle is in balance (over times-scales of decades to centuries).
5).Nope there are multiple lines of evidence that contradict that hand-waving.
6).Again, mere hand-waving the “natural part” was an EN event, after nearly 2 decades of a -ve PDO/ENSO regime. So your “cooling” was natural as well by that argument. They are both *riding* on a background AGW warming signal. BTW: if all warming caused by EN’s were to take the GMT to record levels then the oceans would have boiled away a long, long time ago.
http://blog.chron.com/climateabyss/files/2013/01/GISTEMPjan13.gif
7).There is no evidence of “cooling”via a fading of the Sun that would be anywhere sig against the ongoing AGW warming …. just ask Leif Svalgaard (solar scientist).
8).We are going to have to adapt, as we are already too late. The hard times will come in generations to follow. A fact that seems lost on here, as *predictions* are are deemed to have failed …. when in fact they lie decades ahead (in terms of SL rise in particular). Will cost much, much more to adapt (for future generations) that to develop new energy systems at an accelerated pace – it will have to be done eventually anyway.
It is incumbent on us to not sh**t in our own home.
9).Cold deaths come in advanced countries taking the old and infirm. Heat deaths largely occur in 3rd world countries affecting all generations when accompanied by drought and starvation.

catweazle666
Reply to  Toneb
August 13, 2016 3:39 pm

Oh dear, where to start…
“5).Nope there are multiple lines of evidence that contradict that hand-waving.”
Ah, the “multiple lines of evidence” schtick.
No there aren’t.
Stop making stuff up.
“when in fact they lie decades ahead”
The only evidence for which being computer games.
So total alarmist twaddle from start to finish…

gallopingcamel
Reply to  Toneb
August 13, 2016 9:48 pm

Amen to Catweazel’s comment.
You should not present GISTEMP data here. We are not swayed by data that has been manipulated to serve a political agenda.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Toneb
August 13, 2016 10:44 pm

Tone(deaf)b, The hard times to come will be at the hands of bureaucrats, not nature. We have the ability to provide affordable electricity, affluence and therefore population reduction to the third world. It is within our grasp to keep innocents from perishing due to cold or heat so your stilted statistics are moot.
I can’t think of a better way to “sh**t” on our world than to cover it with pinwheels and mirrors.

Reply to  Toneb
August 14, 2016 11:24 am

Toneb,
I just happened across your comment. You wrote:
Anthro Co2 is leading.
That’s called an ‘assertion’. But empirical evidence contradicts your assertion:comment image
Your whole argument is based on your claim that since human CO2 emissions lead global temperatures, CO2 causes global warming. But that has been proven to be wrong. On all time scales, ∆CO2 follows ∆T.
Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

Reply to  Allan MacRae
August 14, 2016 4:46 am

Toneb – You might actually read my above-cited paper, rather than misinterpreting it.
I will not respond in detail to your points, which I regard as false CAGW nonsense.
I have an excellent predictive track record, dating back to my first publications on this subject in 2002. In contrast, none of the scary predictions of the IPCC and the global warming gang have materialized – they have been consistently wrong.
The global warming gang have perfect negative credibility and yet they have caused our society to squander trillions of dollars of scarce global resources on a false crisis.
It is a professional and ethical obligation to speak out against such destructive nonsense. Cheap abundant reliable energy is the lifeblood of society. When misinformed politicians fool with energy systems, innocent people suffer and die.
Of my ten points above, the only one that I am not highly confident of is my point 6, and I hope to be wrong about imminent global cooling.
The global cooling from ~1940-1975, as fossil fuel combustion strongly accelerated, effectively disproves the CAGW hypothesis.
Regards, Allan

Reply to  Allan MacRae
August 14, 2016 5:30 am

I suggest that the scientific community would benefit by adopting the Code of Ethics of Professional Engineering societies.
One recent example:
I reported a very serious safety concern regarding the Mazeppa sour gas plant near Calgary to the Alberta Energy Regulator (AER) on May 28, 2016. Several of the sour gas wells and pipelines are within 1.5 miles of highly populated areas of Calgary. H2S concentrations of 0.5% are instantly lethal. The Mazeppa sour gas plant was processing up to 40% H2S.
As a Professional Engineer, I am obliged to report issues of public safety. I was notified about this extreme hazard, made inquiries to verify the facts and advised the AER within one week. The Mazeppa plant was shut down one month later. Further action was taken by the AER on August 9, 2016.
I have no business or professional relationship with this plant or the company that owns it. I was General Manager of Engineering of an unrelated company that built and owned the plant circa 1992. My obligation, once I was informed of this problem, was to ensure public safety.
– Allan MacRae, P.Eng.
Recent History of the Mazeppa Sour Gas Plant Issue
An excerpted version of my letter to the AER is here.
From: Allan MacRae
Sent: May-28-16 12:28 PM
To: Senior Executive, Alberta Energy Regulator
Subject: Critical Sour Gas Alert
Importance: High
I have, on usually reliable authority, the following information.
The Mazeppa Sour Gas Plant reportedly has very serious safety concerns, including:
a) Failure to pay surface lease rentals and resulting loss of access to sour gas wells;
b) Infrequent anti-corrosion chemical injection of sour gas pipeline gathering systems;
c) Major cost skimping on sour gas plant maintenance, including on major plant turnarounds.
If true, I regard this matter as very high risk, given that the Mazeppa plant and gathering system collects and processes sour gas (as high as ~30-40% H2S) and is close to highly-populated areas, including the City of Calgary.
Thank you, Allan MacRae, P.Eng.
Calgary
An August 9 article in the Calgary Herald is here.
http://calgaryherald.com/business/energy/energy-regulator-sounds-alarm-about-safety-at-oil-and-gas-company
An August 9, 2016 Order by the Alberta Energy Regulator is here.
http://www1.aer.ca/compliancedashboard/enforcement/201608-01_Lexin%20Multi%20Act%20Order%20Aug%209%202016.pdf

Reply to  Allan MacRae
August 17, 2016 2:21 am

Correction:
H2S concentrations of 0.1% are instantly lethal.

August 13, 2016 6:17 am

This is fine review and commentary on the inconsistency of the environmental movement. Unfortunately, the throwaway line ‘like Calvinist’s [sic] believe’ betrays both a lack of knowledge of Christian teaching and a misunderstanding of the ethical foundations for true concern and care for the environment. I think the points are made perfectly well without throwaway lines like that. Anyone interested in reading a fine essay on what Calvin actually taught should read Marilynne Robinson’s book The Death of Adam.

Reply to  thomasbrown32000
August 13, 2016 10:05 am

Thomasbrown32000 – Andy May wasn’t talking about what Calvin taught, but what followers of a wide group of protestant sects (widely, colloquially and – OK your point is taken – erroneously referred to as “Calvinist”) tend to believe. When I lived in Scotland, I saw a good deal of various protestant churches that evolved out of the teachings of John Knox, who certainly gave Luther and Calvin a run for their money with his contempt for, and intolerance of anything that gives people pleasure, with his obsession with sin, sin, sin and nothing but sin, and his promotion of non-stop, all-pervasive guilt about sin About 97 percent of what constituted sin in those Scottish sects comprised either acts of a sexual nature between consenting adults, or doing anything on Sunday other than go to church. I suppose committing a sexual act on a Sunday would have got you two consecutive eternities in hell.
Those “calvinist” beliefs cover a fairly wide spectrum, but “we are all sinners” is pretty ubiquitous among them, and I think that’s what Andy was getting at.
Many of us sceptics have commented on the similarities between religion and the CAGW philosophy. No need to go into them again at length, but here are the biggies:
1. the use of guilt about your sins as a motivator to believe;
2. the inability of even strong believers to really abstain from the things they feel guilty about;
3. the promise of salvation if you REALLY believe
As a proudly self-declared atheist, I have a real problem with what I think of as “hard” protestant Christianity. I find its anti-human philosophies repellent, but I have no choice but to admit that – if you look at the countries of western Europe (for example) there appears to be a correlation between their attachment to protestantism and their level of prosperity. I think it’s a real causative correlation, with the one leading to the other. Also, what I’ve seen, the growth of “bible-thumping” in aboriginal communities in northern Canada has (often, not always) led to a decrease in alcoholism, drug use, glue sniffing etc.
That said, just because a particular religion leads to positive social changes, doesn’t mean its beliefs are true.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Smart Rock
August 13, 2016 10:54 pm

Religion is the ultimate drug with which to treat the commoners. Don’t remember who said that first.

Editor
Reply to  Smart Rock
August 14, 2016 5:13 am

You captured the point I was trying to make perfectly, thank you. Sorry about the errant apostrophes, I’ll try and avoid that in future.

Johann Wundersamer
August 13, 2016 7:34 am

“We don’t take a safe environment and make it dangerous; we take a dangerous environment and make it far safer.”
‘luja, sog i.
https://youtu.be/FW6P_crgp8M

August 13, 2016 7:53 am

Excellent book that I’ve read twice.

Johann Wundersamer
August 13, 2016 8:11 am

And thus we engaged ourselves into armageddonist coronary breakdown.
http://www.kino.de/film/tatis-schuetzenfest-1949/
CO2? No, bored.

Johann Wundersamer
August 13, 2016 8:32 am

I know my gods are laughing.

Johann Wundersamer
August 13, 2016 9:38 am

Until since, 80% of commenters with noli me tangere aliases.
Inert 3 months flipping to impressing Ph.Ds.
Die März gefallenen, eager for niedrige Parteimitgliedsnummern.

Retired Kit P
August 13, 2016 10:46 am

My philosophy is simple. My wife needs A/C to extend her fragile life.
Our plan was to spend the next two weeks off grid in the mountains or at the ocean. That requires the big generator in the motor to run the A/C unless we can travel in the cool part of the day with the sun behind us.
Unfortunately the big generator will not start. I checked the simple stuff but main an appointment for early in the morning on the way to the mountains. The computer control card failed. That is $500 where I went and $1000 at an authorized dealer.
This a violation of the kiss (keep it simple stupid) principle. The A/C and fridge also have expensive computer control cards. These provide all kinds cool features that would require me to remember to push a button or turn a switch.
Violation of the kiss principle also precludes a $50 do-it-fix.
Being old school in nuclear power, I have long advocated the kiss principle. I think computer controlled electronic ignition is great in your car because it is more reliable than the old technology.
So we are back on the grid. The choice now is a $500 repair to $10,000 generator or replace it with a kiss principle $500 generator that meets the A/C needs. The kiss principle requires manual starting, manual warmup, manual loading, and manual fueling.
Since these activities occur where there is no internet, it would not hinder posting here.

Retired Kit P
August 13, 2016 11:15 am

Safety and the environmental impact of making electricity are two of my areas of expertise. In the US, regulations require that we show we do it safely and with insignificant environmental impact. We demonstrate this every day.
In other words, there is no ethical dilemma.
There is the ‘want to buy my book’ effect. Books about the sky is falling are popular among those who enjoy electricity and have time to worry about problems that do not exist. In this case, the book to buy is one explaining the morality of dealing with ethical issues that do not exist.
We can save a lot of time. Send me $20, I will not write a book. You will not have to read this book. I will make good use of the money. My wife will buy me more red wine out of bottle than a box. Send me enough $20 units and I promise to tour wineries in the motorhome comparing cheap Walmart box wine to more fashionable tourist wine destinations.
It is like comparing nuclear power to local windfarms. One works and the other make some feel good about having a comfortable life style.

Dick of Utah
August 13, 2016 7:57 pm

If you listen to podcasts:
Power Hour with Alex Epstein
Rubin Report episode 42 (fair minded liberal Dave Rubin hosting Alex E.)
All can be found free on Itunes.

August 14, 2016 4:00 am

All of mankind’s progress is due to fossil fuels. Smelting of metals early on was down C reducing oxides producing CO2 giving us the tools to hack through the wilderness and earn a living. Without C combustion we would still be back in the stoneage; which is probably where the greens would like to be.

Reply to  chemengrls
August 14, 2016 9:40 am

Alex Epstein is brilliant…..

Reply to  chemengrls
August 14, 2016 9:43 am

….greens would like us to be…..

Reply to  chemengrls
August 14, 2016 4:25 pm

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/21/the-economic-impact-of-greenhouse-gas-emissions/comment-page-1/#comment-2220950
Agree – fossil fuels have delivered humanity from the worst forms of poverty and slavery.
Now, warmist scoundrels and imbeciles want to deny the benefits of cheap fossil fuel energy to the poorest of humankind, and drive the rest of us backwards into energy poverty. What the warmists are advocating is not only wrong, it is harmful and it is evil.
Cheap, abundant reliable energy is the lifeblood of humanity – it IS that simple!
Best regards, Allan MacRae, P.Eng.

August 14, 2016 9:41 am

..down to C reducing oxides….

Tom Anderson
August 14, 2016 10:19 am

What, still surprised by the McKibben, Ehrlich, et al., jeremiads?
Environmentalism is absolutely, necessarily anti-human. It was as essential Nazism as to the Greenpeace corps of social engineers. It’s part and parcel of the program. What do you think that “Renaissance Faire” fantasy is about?
The only contemporary writer who seems to have scented the green pathology’s DNA is Martin Durkin, a documentary maker for, among other media, the History Channel.
Once again, to all who will take a few well-spent minutes I highly recommend a look at his 25 pp. on what led to the Nazi-Green shack up and beyond. Nothing has changed friends; just not been paying attention, have we?
Here . . . as we used to say in the newspaper biz, read it and weep.
http://www.martindurkin.com/blogs/nazi-greens-inconvenient-history

Reply to  Tom Anderson
August 15, 2016 4:15 am

Thank you for this article Tom.
http://www.martindurkin.com/blogs/nazi-greens-inconvenient-history
NAZI GREENS – An Inconvenient History
By Martin Durkin
The modern State did not arise in or order to ‘curb the cruelties’ of capitalism. Far from it. It arose specifically to preserve the privileges of the existing ruling classes against the democratic, liberating, enriching and levelling forces of capitalism.

co2islife
August 15, 2016 3:46 am

Alan Epstein has a few reap solid videos over on Prager University:
https://youtu.be/BJWq1FeGpCw

co2islife
August 15, 2016 3:47 am

Here is another one:
https://youtu.be/ObvdSmPbdLg

co2islife
August 15, 2016 3:48 am
radzimir
August 15, 2016 3:54 am

Alex Eppstein is a frequent guest on Free Domain Radio.
In chronological order:
1. Episode 3086 “Why You Should Love Fossil Fuel | Alex Epstein and Stefan Molyneux” http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3086/why-you-should-love-fossil-fuel-alex-epstein-and-stefan-molyneux
2. Episode 3141 “Inconvenient Facts About Global Warming | Alex Epstein and Stefan Molyneux”
http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3141/inconvenient-facts-about-global-warming-alex-epstein-and-stefan-molyneux
3. Episode 3192 “America’s Energy War: Fossil Fuels, Ethanol and Industrial Progress! Inconvenient Facts About Global Warming | Alex Epstein and Stefan Molyneux”
http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3192/americas-energy-war-fossil-fuels-ethanol-and-industrial-progress
4. Episode 3349 “Free Speech Under Attack | Alex Epstein and Stefan Molyneux Inconvenient Facts About Global Warming | Alex Epstein and Stefan Molyneux”
http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3349/free-speech-under-attack-alex-epstein-and-stefan-molyneux

August 15, 2016 12:00 pm

It was a good book in 2014.
Seems like it took along time for you to read it.