(Note – I saved this for the weekend, when people who might read this would likely be more relaxed. This is not the usual fare for WUWT, but it is something that is revealing, enlightening, entertaining, and educational, while at the same time sad and sunny all at once. If you want science, skip this article. If you want a perspective on life, read on – Anthony)
Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
Warning: Viewer discretion advised. This post discusses adult themes and content. Oh, not the usual adult themes we get on TV, like D: Suggestive Dialogue or V: Violence. Instead, it is a discussion of the following well-known wanted criminal:
Figure 1. The one with many names … the Pale Rider. The Grim Reaper. The Angel Of Death. Thanatos. Azrael. Cronus.
I’ve been thinking a lot about death lately. The gorgeous ex-fiancee is a Family Nurse Practitioner, and she and I have been taking care of her 86-year-old father in his final illness. “Billy”, that’s what the rest of the guys in the band always called him, so that’s what I called him when I came to be friends and play music with him over the past four years. He was a jazz drummer his whole life, and a very good one. Having had the honor of playing music with him myself, I can testify that he was a very skillful, fun, and inventive percussionist. But when he came out of the hospital back in February, he hung up his sticks and said that was it. His time with music was over. I knew then that his days were short. So we’ve been giving him all the love and support possible in the face of his approaching death.
Here in the developed world, we tend to distance ourselves from death. But in the third world, it is ever-present. The first dead man I ever saw who wasn’t rouged, perfumed, and embalmed was on a side street in Trench Town, a dirt-poor, less than fragrant, and more than turbulent suburb of Kingston, Jamaica. It was a strange scene.
Trench Town is not a good place to be at night. Even in the middle of a hot afternoon, it’s a place where you feel a need to take an occasional look over your shoulder. I was walking down the street, the only melanin-deficient guy in sight. (I hear that the new PC term is “melanin-challenged”, by the way, to avoid hurting people’s feelings by making them feel deficient … but then I’ve never been politically correct.)
In any case, halfway down the block, a man was lying in the gutter. At first I thought he was just drunk and sleeping it off, until I got nearer, and I saw he was lying in the proverbial pool of blood. I remember particularly the sound of the flies. I was reminded of when I used to kill and butcher cows and sheep and other animals out in the farmers’ fields for a living, and how fast the flies would appear. Seeing that man lying dead in a cloud of flies, in the middle of just another average city afternoon, was a shock to me. The cities I was accustomed to back then didn’t feature much in the way of dead bodies in the gutter. I was beyond surprise.
But the bigger shock was the reaction of the people in the street. By and large it was ho, hum, another day in the life, step over his corpse and keep going, Many people looked once and didn’t give him a second glance. The public level of concern seemed to be on the order of “It’s the tropics, mon, cover him up ‘fore he stinks”.
I realized then that in such places down at the bottom of the economic ladder, the death of a stranger is no big deal. Oh, I don’t mean that people don’t mourn or grieve their loved ones the way it happens in the industrialized countries. That’s the same everywhere. But in countries where death is more common, countries where most families have lost a child, countries where malaria or some other tropical fever takes away the young and otherwise healthy, everyone lives in much closer proximity and familiarity with death and the dead. Like the song says about a tropical murder,
Nobody talks about it no more, though it happened just a week ago. But people get by and people get high, in the tropics, they come, and they go.
A decade later in the Solomon Islands, my good friend Willie died after a long wasting illness. Willie was a Solomon Islander who was loved by all, and in those fractious, jealous, contentious islands, that says a lot. There was no funeral home in the Solomons then, may not be one now. So family and friends do everything. Willie died in “Number 9”, which is rumored to be a hospital. In reality it is a collection of buildings left over from World War II that vaguely resembles a hospital. From the curbside, that is. If you don’t focus too closely.
I went there as soon as I heard Willie had died. Up close, it’s an ancient, sad collection of sticky hot rooms baking in the sun, most without even fans to cool the patients. I was already sweating before I got inside.
When I went in the room, Willie’s wife was there, weeping. I joined her. We spoke for a bit. She had brought his clothes, she said, to dress him. She wept. I wept. She made no move to dress him. We sweated. We waited. Solomon Islanders are good at that.
After a while, I asked if she wanted help dressing him. Oh, yes, she said. I stood up, and walked over and lifted the sheet off his legs … ah, the legs that used to run had been replaced by bone and parchment. I lifted them up one by one. They were almost weightless. She and I slid them into his pants. Dressing a dead man proved to be much harder than I thought. Perhaps unsurprisingly, their level of cooperation is quite low. I had the crazy urge to apologize to him for moving his legs. Finally the pants were on. After that it was easier. With his pants on, I could take off the sheet entirely. We put his shirt on. I’d been very close with him for two years. I’d never seen either the pants or the shirt before. My sense was that they were “Solomons new”, meaning bought from a Chinese store which imports used clothing by the bale. Willie looked good in his new outfit. I hugged his wife, and left her to her sorrow. It was the first time I had ever touched a dead body.
Tropical death plays no favorites. My friend Turk was in his forties, a local airline pilot. He went into Number 9 to have a doctor look at his hemorrhoids, and never came out … you learn to watch your step very carefully on small tropical islands, and in particular, do your best to never step into a “hospital”.
I was back in the US when my father died. The gorgeous ex-fiancee was his nurse in his final days. He refused an operation for his bladder cancer. Said he wouldn’t leave my beloved stepmother broke, and besides, he’d done everything he wanted to do. He’d been a well-known architect, made money, built the house he lived in, his kids all loved him, things were getting painful, there wasn’t much left to keep him here. Enough, he said. He didn’t want to go to the hospital, he wanted to die at home.
Sadly, bladder cancer is a painful way to die. When the pain got bad, he asked me to see if I could get some pills that he could take to end his life. He was in chronic intermittent but intense pain. I did not want to, but I had no choice, and I set out to do that. I would have said that I could have found the pills, because I’ve always knows lots of people with strange proclivities. But for whatever reason, I was unable to find any downers. I looked for reds, or any kind of barbiturates. I asked my friends in low places and I never got more than a couple of pills.
And so each time I saw my Dad again, and the pain was even worse, I had to confess that I had failed him. It was gut-wrenching, worse each time. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
The night that he died, the gorgeous ex-fiancee and I went to his house. Again I had to tell him that I hadn’t found the pills … dear friends, he smiled and said what he’d said the other times, that it was OK. It broke my heart. I hugged him and turned away so he couldn’t see my face.
That night I found out how thin the line is between tragedy and comedy. I had brought my guitar, because I knew Dad always loved to hear any of his kids play music. I sat on his bed. He was moaning as the waves of pain rolled over him. I sang for him the songs of his childhood that I knew he loved. I sang him the songs of my childhood that he used to sing to me, as he shifted restlessly and groaned in pain. Finally I was weeping too hard to go on singing, but I kept playing the guitar for a bit. And then I broke down entirely, and the music stopped. I couldn’t play another chord.
He opened his eyes, and he smiled his smile that went so deep, and he said “Oh please, don’t stop playing … I swear I’m not moaning on account of your music!”
We both broke up laughing. I didn’t know I could laugh and weep at the same time. I don’t know how he could laugh and moan at the same time. He fell asleep with without saying another word as I played and wept. What can you do with a man like that?
I left at around ten that night and went home. The gorgeous ex-fiancee said she thought she should spend the night with him. I got up at four thirty and went out commercial fishing, trolling for salmon. Around noon, my dear nurse called on the ship’s radio. I knew what the message was before I got to the microphone. I was glad I was on the ocean. I kept fishing, it calmed and soothed me. I was fishing with my long-time shipmate and fishing partner. He understood my silence.
My mom’s death, on the other hand, surprised everyone. When she knew she was dying of lung cancer, she wrote and asked me to come see her. I was in the Solomon Islands at the time, but that’s not a request you can ignore. I flew to Sedona, Arizona, where she was parking the RV she’d lived in for four years by herself, traveling all around the US. She was 69 at the time. I found out something strange. The main reason she wanted to see me was to find out whether I took my dad’s side of the ancient argument and whether, like him, I blamed her regarding their divorce thirty-four years earlier … go figure. She wanted absolution from me, or at least to know that I didn’t blame her for what happened, thirty plus years in the past.
I told her the truth, that I didn’t have a dog in their fight. I said that I used to think that one or the other of them had done wrong, and to be sure they had each caused the other one a lot of grief and sorrow, they had hurt each other deeply. But by then, I was old enough to know that both of them were just fools whose intentions were good, and that they had both striven in their own way to make it work. The fact that they couldn’t make it work was not important, I knew they’d both given it their best shot. She liked that, and she sent me on my way.
About a week later, she took a fistful of pills and was found dead in the morning. I was glad she found the pills somewhere, lung cancer’s not a good way to go. I was even gladder that she hadn’t asked me to find them for her. The family believed for years that I’d given her the pills because I’d visited just before her death, and they knew I’d tried to find pills for my dad. But I hadn’t given her anything but love and support, as best as I knew how, and at the end of the day no one ever knew where she got the pills.
Later, when we were living again in Fiji, my daughter was about 12. One night, the matriarch of a Fijian family I worked with died. Her daughter, grand-daughter, and son-in-law all worked alongside me for the same company. I took my daughter to the wake, which was the very next day. Without embalmers, tropical funerals are never delayed long. It was late, there were only a few people still there. The night was warm and enfolding. In back of the house was a wooden table. It was spread with a nice cloth. The matriarch lay in state on the table. The family welcomed us. We gave them our best wishes and condolences. I had told my daughter I wanted her to touch the dead woman. She caressed her shoulder. The mom saw it and smiled. I didn’t want my child to be the stranger to death that I had been. Touching a dead person makes it all real.
There’s an old tale about these matters, one that the Fijians understood without ever knowing the story. A man goes to a sage and asks him to write down a good luck charm. The sage gets out his inkstone and brush, grinds some ink, and on a crisp new sheet of rice paper he writes something down, folds it up and gives it to the man. The man opens it and reads it. In exquisite calligraphic script it says:
Grandfather dies.
Father dies.
Son dies.
The man can’t believe it. “What have you done! Did my enemies pay you? This is a curse on my entire family, it’s not a good luck charm!”
“Ah, no, that’s the best good luck charm I can give you,” the sage calmly replied. “If it happens in any other order, that is very bad luck …”
The first person I saw actually die was my sister Kristen. Well, half-sister, but us kids all decided among us early on that half- and step- were out, we were all brothers and sisters. She was about 50 at the time. She’d gone to the hospital to get some tests for intestinal discomfort, walked in the door, and passed out in the reception area. So they checked her, and after testing they decided that they had to do an immediate exploratory operation to see what was wrong. Her mother, who was our beloved stepmother Virginia, and a bunch of us brothers and sisters and I all went immediately to the hospital, to be there when she woke up from the operation.
When the operation was over around noon, the surgeon called us all in. She started talking, and she only got partway through the explanation of the operation before she started crying. She said that a 6-foot section of my sister’s intestines had died, and that was too much of a loss for her to live. She said medicine was powerless. She said when they saw what it was and how bad it was, they immediately closed up and got out to prevent further harm. They did not know why part of her had died, but there was no human power that could save her. She had maybe 24 hours. That was it.
We were stunned. What now, we said. The doctor said my sister was out of the OR and that she would be waking up soon. She’d likely stay awake for maybe an hour or two, perhaps a few more. But then the pain would start, and so she would be on a morphine drip. After that, she’d be awake some but she would mostly sleep. I felt so bad for the doctor. She had all of her knowledge and all of her skills and tools, and here she was, totally powerless. I could see she was shaken, frustrated and sad.
So we were all there when Kristen woke up. Of course, she was glad and surprised to see us. She remembered passing out in the lobby. But she was still kind of groggy. So as she became more alert we mostly made small talk. We told he she’d had an operation. We hadn’t though ahead about who would tell her the bad news, we didn’t have a plan or anything, the usual family deal. Finally she asked what the doctor had said about the outcome of the operation, what they had found … silence.
After a long pause, one of my brothers stepped in. But he kind of danced around the subject. He is a lovely man and he did his best, but he described it in all kinds of generalities, words like “preparing for the end” and “short time” and “so sorry”, and “inevitable”, but nothing concrete. I could see he wasn’t getting through, my sister wasn’t following him.
Finally I couldn’t stand her confusion. I said something like “Kristen, the doctors operated, but they can’t help you. They said that part of your intestines died, and there is nothing that they can do. They say that you will die within a day.”
Silence.
“Can’t be”, she said after a bit of thought. “I feel fine.” She wouldn’t believe me. I repeated that she was certain to die within twenty-four hours, by far the saddest and most final news I’ve ever had to deliver in my life. She looked in my eyes. She didn’t like what she saw. She turned to Virginia. “Mom,” she said, “that’s not true, is it?”
Her mother had to do then what must assuredly be one of the most difficult things that a human being can do. She had to tell her darling, her joy, her only daughter that she had only a day to live. Ah, my friends, I can only fervently wish that no one would ever, ever in their life have to say what she said to her daughter then—Oh, sweetheart, I’m so sorry. The doctors say you only have a day to live. It’s true.
I couldn’t bear watching Virginia say it, how could she bear the saying of it herself?
Silence …
It can’t be true, my sister finally replied.
Yes, it is true, my stepmother said.
It is not true!, said Kristen.
Yes, it is true!
IS NOT!
IS TOO!
They voices had gradually raised until they were almost shouting, and all of us realized at about the same instant that it was such a prototypical grade-school playground level argument, and we all laughed at the absurdity. When death is present in the room, our feelings simply overflow, and tragedy and comedy get all confused and mixed up.
We talked for a while after that. Fortunately none of us had much that was left unsaid with Kristen, we were always pretty honest with each other. She’d been a good kid and was a good woman, and we told her so. So we talked, and even laughed some more. But all too soon, the pain from the operation started hitting her. Pretty soon, I couldn’t take it any more, my heart wouldn’t bear it. In the afternoon, I left her with her mom and the others and went home.
But then in the early evening, my brother called. He said everyone had gone home but him. He said Virginia couldn’t stop weeping, she was beside herself, and another sister had taken her home. He said he had to leave, he needed to do some things and then go to work the next day.
Well, there was no way she was going to die alone. That was not on the list of options. So once again I drove the solitary miles and miles back to the hospital. When I got there she was sleeping. She woke once, but didn’t say anything. She saw me, and it seemed to comfort her, or perhaps that was just my wishful thinking. Death was in the room. I stayed well to the side. Time slowed. I held her hand, and moistened her lips with ice water with the little pink lollipop sponges they use for that, and told her that she’d been a good sister to me and a good friend, and she had been, too. Around two in the morning, her breathing slowed, and then she slipped away.
I found out then that there is an odd kind of peace in being alone in a room with someone who has just died. After all the anguish and the turbulent emotions, the succeeding absolutely inalterable finality of her death obviated the need for any further struggle on anyone’s part. There was nothing more she could do. There was nothing more I could do for her. She was beyond my reach. Death had left the room, and with it, the need for wariness. I sat in the room with her for a while, and wept, and turned off my mind. The silence was so deep it was almost subsonic. If that silence of death had a color, it would be the darkest ebon, the deepest Elvis velvet black. I wrapped the silence around me and listened to my own breath, the only sound in the room.
Then after a while, I pressed the call button, and the doctor came and pronounced her dead.
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The main thing that I have learned in all of my curious interactions with the dead and the dying has been to take Death as my advisor. I have learned that Death gives me better advice than anyone. When it comes to sage wisdom, I found that Death beats all the books and advice columnists and psychologists and grief counselors and what all the authorities say. Whenever I’m all in a fluster about how bad things are at the moment, how everything’s going pear-shaped and I just can’t take it, at that time (if I have my wits about me) I’ll I look over my left shoulder and ask Death what he thinks about it all.
By this point, I know what he’ll say. He’ll say no, Willis, don’t worry about this penny ante booshwa. That’s nothing, he tells me … I haven’t touched you yet …
All of us, myself assuredly included, tend to live as though we are immortal. We talk of wasting time as if we had it to waste, when it is our most precious possession and we have so little of it. Taking Death as my advisor cuts through that fatal illusion. He reminds me that my days are numbered, that I need to live every day to the fullest. He tells me to work and play and laugh and produce and treat each hour as though it were my last. He reminds me that I am at war, and I need to acknowledge that this might be my ultimate battle. And as such, it is imperative that I forth to that battle in a warrior’s spirit of true abandon, holding nothing back.
Which brings me back to where I started this roundabout tale, back to William Alfred Schneider, my dear friend Billy, fellow musician, and father-in-law. I finally got to know him after they moved out here. The man was a jazz legend. He got his first gig playing drums in a St. Louis strip joint when he was a teenager in the 1940’s, and never looked back. He was the drummer for Barbara Streisand at the Crystal Palace in St. Louis in the fifties, and was a fixture in the famed “Gaslight Square”. He played with Liberace. He said when “Lee”, as he called Liberace, went on a minimum no-frills tour, he took only two people—Billy, and Liberace’s hairdresser … with Billy smiling his silly grin and slightly emphasizing the word “hairdresser”. Unusually for a man born in the 1920’s, he didn’t care in the slightest what someone did in bed, as long as they could play good music and put on an entertaining show. But he was always ahead of his time.
Billy played with Frank Sinatra, and with Dave Brubeck. He toured with Roger Williams. In the 1950’s Billy was the drummer for “The Nervous Set”, starring the recently-deceased Larry Hagman as the lead singer. It was the first Broadway musical with a jazz quartet instead of an orchestra, Kenny Burrell was the guitarist. Among other innovations of the musical, Billy played the tympani along with his normal jazz drum kit, to fill out the sound. You can hear Billy’s understated musical style on the drums here. The song is a masterpiece of late 1950’s angst, with lyrics that were hilarious in their own way then and now. The musical both celebrated and mocked the dawn of the “Beat Generation”. Jack Kerouac came to a performance. He was drunk, and tried to force his way backstage, they wouldn’t let him in. Billy’s stories went on and on …
He went legally blind a couple of decades ago, macular degeneration. But he was doing OK, still playing music, until his wife had a stroke. She was half-paralyzed and bedridden after that, which was hard on him, and he stopped playing. About four years ago, my gorgeous ex-fiancee talked them into moving to California from St. Louis so we could take care of them. She found a nursing home for her mom, and we found him a mobile home to buy in a nearby mobile home park … he laughed about that. He said it proved he wasn’t trailer trash, he lived in a mobile home. He visited his wife in the nursing home almost every single day until her death a couple of years ago. She was the envy of the place to have a husband like that, all the poor souls in the nursing home who got one or two visits a year were jealous of her. I think he was atoning for previous misdeeds, the man was a jazz musician, and by all accounts a tom cat … but atone he assuredly did, and impeccably. When she needed him, really needed him, he was by her side every day. The only way we could keep him from going was to tell him we’d go ourselves, and we did, week after week, to give him some days off. He paid off all of his debts to his wife with true devotion.
Right up to the end his mind never weakened, and curiously, he was one of the few people with whom I could discuss my climate research. You have to understand that I’m a long ways out of the loop compared to many climate researchers. They typically have some circle of peers around them with whom they can discuss their ideas about the climate—other researchers, professors, graduate students, mentors, people from other departments and fields, they work and publish in teams and groups and can bounce ideas off each other.
I do all of my research alone. Around here, I have Billy and one other guy to talk to, neither one a climate scientist but both interested intelligent layman, and that’s it. So it was always a pleasure to read my work to him. He had me read each piece out loud, and then asked good questions. And we always had the music.
But his kidneys finally betrayed him. His last public appearance was in January, a couple of half-hour sets. He was as good as ever. Almost blind and nearly deaf even with his hearing aids, he never missed a beat. Then he was hospitalized, and they had to re-inflate him with a carload of IV fluids and such. His other daughter came out from Tennessee, she was a huge help during and after his hospitalization. But then, of course, she had to go back to work. She left with our profound thanks.
When Billy came out of the hospital, he told me he wasn’t going to play any more music. I said, you mean not play any more music in public? No, he said, he was done with music … my heart sank. He’d said the same thing when his wife had her stroke, and he didn’t play any music at all for a couple of years back then. But when he moved to California and still wasn’t playing, I knew that if I could get him to play again, he’d live much longer. So I just kept bugging him to play … and finally he gave in. We started to play a bit. I put my keyboard, amplifier, bass, microphone and guitar at his place so he could rock out anytime I or one of his friends was there. But he was kind of half-hearted about it, like he hadn’t made up his mind to get back into it.
And then he met some local musicians, and one of them told him that an old drum student of Billy’s from 50 years ago named George Marsh was now a music professor at the local university. Well, that put the cat among the pigeons. Just the rumor of George Marsh did what I couldn’t do. Billy immediately started seriously practicing, hours every day—Billy Schneider wasn’t going to have his student show up and find his old teacher unable to play the drums, oh, no, that wasn’t on. And so by the time George Marsh (who is now in his seventies and still teaching) made it over to his house, Billy was seriously playing his drums again and had his old chops back. And for the next four years, he played a lot, both with me and with various combinations of other musician friends in his house, as well as playing various gigs again in public as he’d done for so long. He played with a floating jazz group at a local restaurant, you’ve never seen a man so happy as when the band clicked.
Here’s a funny story. Billy met a friend of mine who’s up to his ears in Haitian drumming. So Billy started trading lessons with him, showing him jazz drumming in exchange for being taught something about Haitian drumming. Here’s the crazy part. My friend was taught Haitian drumming by a man named Kendrick. Kendrick was a very good drummer with sticks as well, in part because at the start of his drumming career he’d once spent six months on the waiting list to become for several years a student of George Marsh … who was, of course, taught drums by Billy himself, and so the circle was complete.
So when Billy announced he was hanging up his sticks, my heart grieved, I knew his time was short … not good news. Curiously, he told me that in some ways it was a great relief, because the music had always been a burden for him. I understood what he meant. I’m a musician, but not like him. I never practiced, even when I was making my living playing music. I just played and played and played, Oh, sometimes I’d play one song over and over for three hours, but I never called it practice. You’re doing the same thing, but from a very different point of view of music. I hate to practice, and I love to play, despite the fact that they’re the same. In my opinion, they call it “playing music” for a reason—because it’s not ever supposed to be work or practice. My aim is to play music like children play their games, for the simple joy of the sound and the passion of creating something stirring and moving and lovely.
But Billy was old-school. For him, there was practice, and there was performing. Billy had always driven himself to practice, a minimum of three hours a day until the day he quit. It was why he was so good. And now, he said, he was just tired to the bone. He didn’t want to practice like that any more … and if he couldn’t practice three hours a day, he wouldn’t play at all.
I told him that was OK by me. I told him he’d played music for people all his life, and all they’d had to do was sit back and listen. I said that now I could return the favor. I’d play, and all he had to do was listen. He laughed, he liked that plan. We joked about him being my captive audience. And so when I visited, I played for him the tunes that he and I had played together, over the following weeks, as he lay back in his easy chair. We talked about everything, including his impending death.
His health got worse and worse. The doctors said that he was a candidate for dialysis. But like my father, he refused treatment. His music was done, he said, and he’d had enough of being old and blind and deaf and most of all, he was just so tired. The only medical treatment he said he wanted was a morphine drip if things got bad.
For a while he could still take care of himself. We begged him to come live with us, but he was fiercely independent. His proud warrior’s spirit refused to let him to leave his mobile home even after he began to fail. So about two weeks ago, the gorgeous ex-fiancee and I moved in with him in shifts, with her there one night and me there the next. He was mostly sleeping. His voice grew less clear, with gaps in the words. I was reminded of times in the past when some friend and I were talking on our fishing boat radios, and my friend was in a boat going over the horizon. As the boat moved farther away, my friend’s words became indistinct, with static and gaps like Billy’s words, and both of us saying, Do you copy, do you read me, over? … I could see Billy was frustrated that his body wouldn’t obey him. It wasn’t that his mind couldn’t form the words. It was just that he was sailing over the horizon, and slowly getting too far away to send back final communications to those left behind on the shore …
When the pain got bad, his loving, ever-patient nurse, my dear wife, got him a prescription for morphine … and we dripped it into his mouth, just a bit from time to time, like he’d wanted. I think the fear of the pain was worse than the pain itself, and the morphine eased both his body and his mind.
On Friday night, he was nearing the end. I went down to his place, and my dear lady went home to feed the cat and get some sleep. It was proper. She had been at my father’s bedside when he died, and on that night long ago I had gone home. So it was right she should go home now. After she left, I put on some of Billy’s recordings from back in the day, the soundtrack from “The Nervous Set”, recordings he’d done with other musicians. I held his hand, and stroked his head. I sang to him. I told him he’d been a good husband and father, although neither were strictly true. But like my own mom and dad, he’d done his best with the poor interpersonal tools that were to hand in the 40’s and 50’s, and that’s all I could ask.
When I could feel his death approaching, I made myself small and turned sideways. I’m very careful when Death is in the room. First off, if you look at that joker’s eye-sockets, you can tell right away that his vision isn’t of the finest. Plus, his record isn’t that sterling either. It’s because he grew up outdoors, that’s my theory at least, where there’s plenty of room to swing a scythe. As a result, too often he’s been known to misunderestimate the distances involved inside a house, so his scythe bumps the refrigerator on the backswing or something, and as a result the blade hits the wrong man, and boom—Dick Nixon lives for another 117 years, and some good guy ends up dying young.
And although these days I’m mostly out of danger in that regard, being neither that young nor that good, I did not want to get mistaken for Billy right about then.
But Death found the right man, in my opinion at least, and probably in Billy’s opinion as well, and he died around nine o’clock. His breath went out, and it never came back. I leaned over and kissed his cooling forehead. His other daughter later said that for years, he’d had an evening gig, and the second set always started at 9:20 … that made sense. Much as he would have liked to stay and talk to me, he had to leave, the boys were headed back to the bandstand, Barbara Striesand was already on stage, the next set was about to start …
So I turned off his old recordings, and once again, I found myself sitting alone in a silent room with someone I’d just watched die. Again I wept. And again I took solace in the profundity of the silence, and in the soothing fact that there was nothing pressing any more, no urgency, nothing he needed to do, nothing I could do for him.
Then, when the time of silence was over, I went to do the necessary tasks. But of course, as I have learned in my life, death often brings both tragedy and farce, and this was no exception. Earlier in the day I’d called the mortuary, to see what the procedure was for them to pick up his body. The Mortuary Lady said they couldn’t pick him up without a Death Certificate. OK, I said, how do I get one of those? Oh, she said, you can’t do it, his doctor has to sign it.
Mmmm … but what if his doctor is out of town? Because, you know, he is out of town. Until Monday. And Billy will likely die before then.
Well, she said, after he dies you should call the County Coroner. They will send a doctor over to sign the certificate. They always handle that. It’s not a problem
So I did … but being a skeptical fellow, I did it right then, I didn’t wait until afterwords. I told the nice Coroner Lady the situation. She said oh, no, we don’t handle dead people at home in bed. You should call the Sheriff’s Department. They always handle that. It’s not a problem.
So I did, right then. But the nice Sheriff Lady said they didn’t deal with dead people at home in bed. She said just call the emergency number 9-1-1. They always handle that. It’s not a problem … I guess not many people die at home with their family any more. Eventually my doctor said, just call the local police. They’ll know what to do. So after I’d sat in the silence in his bedroom for a while, I did that very thing.
However, the nice Police Lady said that unfortunately, his passing had to be classified as an “Unattended Death”, all capitalized and everything, because there was no doctor present. Again I was reminded of the difference between the first and the third world. What we call “an Unattended Death” they call “a death”—the presence of a doctor is a rarity, and absolutely not a necessity. In any case, the nice Police Lady said that she was sorry, but since his doctor was out of town, they’d have to send a detective out to investigate the Unattended Death for signs of foul play … plus of course the Emergency Medical Technician had to come out to to make sure he wasn’t still alive.
The mind works strangely at such times. I was tempted to say that it was clear that he wasn’t pining for the fjords, and that I took “didn’t breathe for the last fifteen minutes” as kind of a clue to his general state of animation, but I forbore … I could see that I was now just a pawn in the bureaucratic machinery. I had entered the zone where it didn’t matter what I said or did.
The detective turned out to be a pleasant young man. Clearly, however, he was hoping that this would turn out to be the crime of the century, that I’d just snuffed Howard Hughes or something. He came in, and first thing, we had to fill out some paperwork. I figured he’d want to see the body first, but no, it’s the government. Paperwork first, last, and in between, it’s the way we render modern death sterile and unthreatening.
While we were doing that, the EMT wagon arrived. I’d asked the nice Police Lady if they could leave the lights and sirens off to avoid disturbing the neighbors, and they did so. The EMT came in and went in the bedroom to see the body. He came out and told us that Billy was really most sincerely dead. He had a whole other set of paperwork, which I signed, and he gave his condolences and left. But of course he couldn’t sign the Death Certificate, so I’m not sure what his purpose was.
After the paperwork was done, the Detective said he wanted to see the “scene”. He did manage not to call it a “crime scene”. We went into the bedroom. He took out his camera and said he was sorry, but by law he had to take pictures for the record. I said I understood. He asked me to take the covers off of Billy’s body. I could see that he was disappointed to find out that it was just an ancient dead man weighing about 80 pounds, call it 35 kg, with pipe stem legs and sunken eyes, and not a crime victim of any kind. So the Detective took his pictures. And knowing that it made absolutely no sense, I put the covers back on Billy and tucked them in around him because it was night time, and I didn’t want him to be cold. We are truly bizarre creatures, we humans …
Then the Detective asked if I had a measuring tape. He said he had to measure the distance of the body from the walls of the room for his sketch of the scene, but he didn’t have a tape … I got the tape measure. Somewhere in there, it seems the gears in my mind had stripped entirely, and I found myself wandering around the bedroom, numbly measuring how far it was from the walls to Billy’s body while the detective wrote down the numbers … life is endlessly strange. Somewhere in the bowels of the local Police Department there is an official “Unaccompanied Death” form with a sketch on it showing that William A. Schneider aged 86 died approximately nine feet from the south bedroom wall of his mobile home, and about seven feet from the east bedroom wall …
When all that was done, all the measurements and pictures taken, all the papers signed, I asked the Detective if now the mortuary folks could pick him up.
The Detective said no, first I had to get the Death Certificate …
I wanted to pound my head against the wall, but I was afraid I wouldn’t feel a thing if I did. It was that kind of evening. So I told the Detective the whole story, about the Mortuary Lady, and the County Coroner Lady, and the Sheriff Lady, and the Police Lady, and my Doctor’s advice, and he took pity on me. He called his boss, and she called someone she knew at the Coroners Office. In about five minues she called him back and said OK, Billy could be moved, the doctor could sign off when he returned on Monday.
So the Detective told me the body could go, and he gave his condolences. He was sincere and kind and professional throughout, and I thanked him for that and said I knew he had to do what he had done, and I was glad it was him that had done it. When he left I went back inside and called the mortuary.
Soon, the folks from the mortuary arrived. They brought a gurney. The mobile home was tight quarters. They had to stand the gurney on end to get it around the corners to his bedroom. I couldn’t figure out how they would get him out, there was nowhere near enough room. They wrapped him in a white shroud and put him on the gurney. Then they started lashing him on, with three webbed belts. I left the bedroom and sat down in the living room to wait.
When they came out of the bedroom, I found out that the gurney folded down, and it had wheels on one end, so they could use it like a hand truck. They came breezing out of the bedroom, wheeling him on what looked just like a hand truck, wrapped in white in a standing position. Their sudden appearance was so bizarre, they were moving fairly fast, or perhaps I was moving fairly slow, but in any case they looked for all the world like museum curators on the Discovery Channel merrily rolling one of the mummies to a new display location …
I must confess, I broke out laughing at sudden appearance of Billy disguised as a mummy on wheels in some museum. The attendants looked at me strangely, but I suppose they’d seen all kinds of grief, so they just keep wheeling the mummy on out to the van. Yeah, I know, I’m likely going to hell for laughing right then, but I knew that Billy would have seen the humor in it. He was a rascal and a gentleman and a rogue, crabby and thoughtlessly hard on the women in his family who loved him nonetheless, a wonderful musician and a bad family man who somehow managed to successfully raise a couple great girls to productive adulthood, and always someone with a deep sense of humor and a profound enjoyment of the ridiculous, inane, bizarre things of this world. He’d have laughed at the mummy image. My old shipmate, the one I was fishing with when I heard of my father’s passing thirty years ago, remarked on Billy’s death, “We don’t grieve for him. We grieve for our own loss, that he’s no longer around to laugh with us.”
Anyhow, that’s why my mind has been revisiting the topic of death lately. I have no great insights gained from all of this, except to keep listening to Death’s excellent advice, and to keep the gas pedal firmly pressed to the floor. Oh, and what George Marsh told me. He said he’d been meaning to get over to see Billy again, he’d been invited, but this and that had gotten in the way, time went by, and now Billy was dead … he said he wasn’t ever going to let that happen again if he could help it.
After Billy’s death, I went for some long walks on the cliffs overlooking the ocean with my gorgeous ex-fiancee, and we let the immensity of the water and the insistent wind and the endless waves wash away the sorrow and the struggle of the last few months. We both fished commercially together, we both are children of the waves. We saw a whale spouting far out in the vasty deeps—there is no better balm for the heart than untamed wildness.
I give my good lady immense props for her role in all of this. She has been the captain of our good ship since the first day, I was just the crew. And having skippered my share of boats, I assure you that crewman is by far the easier job. Crewmen sleep well at night, while the skipper tosses and turns and considers tomorrow. Billy was not always nice or kind to her or her sister, but they both bore up under it without complaint to him, and simply kept supporting him and her mother in every way they wanted and needed, from before the time they moved out here until their deaths. I told that good woman that she was the perfect daughter, that she did everything they needed and more, and that she had done it with style and with a warm and open heart. She has my profound admiration and undying thanks for her unwavering support of both of our parents in their extremity.
My conclusion from all of this? Hold your family and friends close, remember to taste the strawberries, play your own music whatever that might mean to you, and do what you love … because the night is never far away.
Best regards, and thanks for coming on the journey. Everyone grieves differently. This time around, writing seems to be part of how I do it. Tonight, the midnight moon is nearly full, with a single band of altostratus on one side of the sky and a hint of summer in the air. The coyotes are mumbling to each other on the far ridge, the saw-whet owl is sharpening his lethal blade. The intoxicating smell of the lemon tree in the yard lies thick on the dark air. The moonlit forest around my house is alive with unseen eyes, predator and prey alike, hidden death on all sides for rabbits and mice … stay well, dear friends, life is far too short.
w.
William A. “Billy” Schneider
Jazz drummer extraordinaire
1928-2014
He lived and died surrounded by his music
and loved by his family and friends.
Sleep well, my dear companion.
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This thread is turning into a ‘domestic’ isn’t it. LOL. Yeah I am quite fascinated to not delete it, but when we look at it, it just started when Janice tried to comfort Willis and he rejected it violently.
Then it went into religious persecution and arguments, over the manner that Willis handled his negative respondents of him. And some are wrong, not all creationist religions, believe in the exact description in the Holy bible that the earth was formed in 6 days. However, the processes are spot on. That’s if you add 000,000, 000, to the time period. I mean Sarah Palin reckoned humans walked with dinosaurs. We would never have survived if we had! You have to remember, people were not scientifically minded and nor were the prophets, they were more interested in calming people and to support their way of life.
By the way, just remember we obey conventions in our particular society, and we tend to dislike extremists who without any invitation, come along and try to assume if we don’t believe in their God and religious laws, we obviously believe in the Devil. But behind it is politics, politics rules our way of life. Be it male vs female, child vs parent, a lawgiver vs criminal.
But one of my cliches is, I will not stand by and see harm done, or I am as bad as the perpetrator of harm. Anyway keep going, the Gods are watching and hearing you all. LOL
milodonharlani says:
April 23, 2014 at 3:29 pm
Quite so, I agree.
Mark Bofill says:
April 23, 2014 at 8:00 pm
As I noted, it’s actually better, based upon heretic burning & other measures of tolerance. When the Puritans were in control under the Commonwealth, they did try to force all parishes in the Church of England to worship along their lines, but didn’t kill priests or punish parishioners who wanted to go the “High Church” route & emulate Catholic ritual.
I fault them for their iconoclasm, which destroyed much wonderful statuary & many stained glass windows, somewhat restored. And for suppressing the English stage, although the plays that might otherwise have been written in the 1650s would probably not have been of the highest quality.
Cromwell tried to ban Christmas (the pagan part only, Christmas puds, and festivities rather than total Christian devotion only).
He didn’t succeed either. You talk about James lst of England and James VI of Scotland, whose mother Mary Queen of Scots was a catholic. What about Guy (or Guido) Fawkes, the catholic and his 12 conspirators? Who conspired and nearly succeeded in the Gun Power plot. They still burn an image of him on Nov 5th with fireworks each year, although not anti Catholic, Catholics were not emancipated until the 19th Century. If I remember rightly he may have died the worst death of all, hanged, drawn and quartered, but avoided mutilation by jumping from the scaffold and breaking his neck.
What about Salem too. Religion has been the source of terrible conflicts, and it still is.
bushbunny says (April 23, 2014 at 7:54 pm): “Anyway keep going, the Gods are watching and hearing you all.”
We are indeed, and We are NOT amused. You puny humans squabble too much. That’s why we’re gradually replacing you all with machines:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/cows-make-friends-with-robots–everybody-s-happier-135937575.html
Ha, ha, ha Gary, with so much negativity on this thread, just make sure our puters, don’t rebel, and get struck by lightening. LOL.
johanna says:
April 23, 2014 at 7:09 am
I fear that you have mistaken me for someone else. I absolutely don’t rock a pony-tail, and I didn’t even when my hair was long back in the 1960s. I wore a bandana instead. In any case, I’ve had short hair for forty years now.
So I fear that once again, your accusation proves to be merely a fantasy on your part … no surprise, I guess …
w.
bushbunny says:
April 23, 2014 at 7:54 pm
Bushbunny, if I told a grieving Christian giving a eulogy for a dead relative that Christ is a liar who can never bring him lasting peace or hope, would you consider that “comfort”?
Serious question, bushbunny. I keep asking this question. Nobody’s had the nerve to answer yet. Not Johanna. Not Hilary, Not you, Not Nancy.
I don’t call that comfort, bushbunny, and that’s exactly what Janice told me. I did not find it a comforting in the slightest, I found it aggressive and insulting, and I’m astounded that you think it would comfort me. Comfort me? Telling the man who just explained his fundamental beliefs to you that he’s listening to a liar and his beliefs are all wrong is supposed to be comforting?
Really?
w.
Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001) says:
April 23, 2014 at 12:46 am (Edit)
Let me get this straight. You accused me of being a very bad and foolish person for not quoting something.
I point out that I did quote it, in the very comment you were discussing.
Your answer above is that it’s still my fault, because you don’t like something else I said, and because my errors were so funny you were unable to control your laughter.
Got it. However, a simple apology for your most unpleasant and untrue claim would have sufficed. People notice when you are wrong and don’t admit it when you are wrong, Hilary, and “OMG! How could I have possibly overlooked that?” is not such an admission. That’s merely an attempt to minimize the fact that you attacked me in an ugly manner over something that was just your fantasy.
Since once again you haven’t bothered to quote the words you disagree with, I’m clueless where I “wrongly attributed [my] very own words to johanna”. I don’t recall doing that, although all things are possible, but without a quote that’s just more of your accusations.
Next, Johanna did not quote what I’d said, Instead, she falsely claimed I’d called Janice a coward, saying:
Her clear implication is that I said or implied that Janice was a coward. I neither said nor implied any such thing. The main problem it is not that “coward” is “unacceptable, inaccurate or whatever your self-serving scathing scolding of the hour might be”.
The problem is that her accusation is untrue, simply johanna’s fantasy made up out of the whole cloth. Do you expect me to praise johanna for trying to bash me with her fantasies?
In any case, I’m happy to summarize the essence of what I said. I said it was both bad tactics and bad strategy for Janice to make a statement someone finds offensive and then walk away without responding when they protest. You lose a whole lot of traction that way.
Regards,
w.
johanna says:
April 23, 2014 at 7:09 am
Ah, my apologies for my lack of clarity. I am absolutely not advising that you say nothing.
I am saying that Janice has not told you whether she wants an apology from me all … but despite that, you are insisting on her behalf that I apologize to her, in some specific manner you find acceptable. That contains the assumption that she is too weak to speak for herself.
But no, I’m not advising that you say nothing. I’m saying that you are perpetuating the “weak woman” syndrome by setting yourself up as the spokesmodel for Janice, in order to tell me what you think I should say to Janice. But that doesn’t mean I’m advising saying nothing. There are lots of things you can say for yourself.
You can strongly register your disagreement with what I’m saying. You can find errors in my logic. You can answer the question I asked everyone that no one has answered. You can quote what I said to Janice and tell me what you think is wrong with it. You can say a host of things for yourself, the world is your lobster.
But you can’t speak for Janice. That’s not going to fly with me. I have invited her quite clearly and warmly to resume the discussion. The next move is up to her. It’s not up to you. You claiming to speak for her says that Janice is incapable of answering for herself so you are appointing yourself to make demands on me on her imaginary behalf… really? Do people buy that kind of thing in your world? Because I don’t. Neither you nor I know what Janice wants, that’s up to her alone.
You want to show the world that women are strong? Don’t bother telling me how Janice feels and what kind of apology Janice needs and wants. Tell Janice to stand up and tell me how she feels and what she needs and wants. That’s what strong women do, they stand up for themselves …
Best regards,
w.
Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001) says:
April 23, 2014 at 3:17 pm
So you make a host of unpleasant accusations without quotations, and then you promise that “perhaps one day” if you have nothing better to do you’ll provide the evidence to back up your accusations … that’s real cute. Is that what Nixon called the “semi-limited hangout route”?
In any case, I agree with you in encouraging people to visit the posts in question, folks should definitely read them. I’m more than happy to have the lurkers get the facts and then decide.
The accusations leveled against me by yourself and others that I “browbeat” or “bully” people in this context is a curious one. You see, to bully someone means to force someone to do something by using threats. The classic line of the bully is “Give me your lunch money, kid, or I’ll punch your lights out!”.
But in this context, what possible threat do I have? That I’ll say bad words? That I’ll jump up and down? “If you don’t give me your lunch money, Hilary, I’m gonna do … I’m gonna …”
I’m gonna do what? Spew spittle on my screen? Write a really long reply that you decide not to read? Request the UN to send you a strongly worded letter? OK, Hilary, if you don’t give me your lunch money I’m gonna call you a big poopy-head? Where is the threat that is a required part of bullying?
This idea that I’m the mean man bullying all the poor weak women is just more fantasy. The poor weak women can say anything they damn well please about me, and I can’t do one thing about it. Not one thing. I can’t cut you off half-way through what you say. I can’t drown you out. There’s nothing I can do about what you want to say, I can’t stop it or delay it or mute it or change it one iota.
So no, Hilary, I’m not bullying or browbeating anyone. But not because I’m somehow different from everyone else. I’m not bullying anyone for the same reason no one else is bullying anyone here—because a bully has to have a threat, and this lovely context here just doesn’t have any threats except calling someone a poopy-head.
And as a result, here nobody’s bullying anybody, myself included.
All the best,
w.
Willis Eschenbach says: April 25, 2014 at 3:01 am
And had he done so, I think it might well have been a first in this particular thread!
Instead – as anyone who might take his/her mouse for a scroll back through this thread can plainly see – we are treated to five consecutive encores (beginning at 2:30 a.m. and winding down at 3:54 a.m.) of recycled self-serving churnings from the windmills of Willis <even when he’s spectacularly wrong, he’s right> Eschenbach’s brilliant mind.
IOW, while Willis demonstrates (for the umpteenth time) his somewhat … well … elastic interpretation of the word “exactly” [Translation for newbies: Because. Willis. Said. So. (BWSS for short) Over and over and over again], if we choose to comment, we’re supposed to play his little game of ‘my claim, prove me wrong’.
And we must be sure to don our kid gloves first! Not that it will make much difference, once he finds some words or other that he can glom onto as a hook in order to regale us with further iterations of the non-responsive self-serving same!
Because, folks, it’s his thread and his and – most important of all – his perceptions that are the only ones that count. Unless, of course, you choose to demonstrate that you hold him ‘n all his words in the same unimpeachable high esteem as he does, forever and ever. Amen! Then you’ll probably get a “pass”!
In the meantime, since Willis had earlier indicated that he has no way of contacting Janice privately (to apologize and invite her back) and as I had subsequently remarked to John Whitman, I still cannot imagine why any self-respecting person should be expected to monitor and/or resume participation in a thread whose ‘owner’ had very clearly and unambiguously declared that s/he was not welcome.
Yet, Willis still appears to harbour a very strong expectation that such a person should somehow have divined his subsequent “apology” (that clearly really wasn’t) and returned to the thread to defend her/himself against his accusations.
And if – sin of all heinous sins – anyone should have the audacity to call a spade a spade by pointing out that this (or any of his myriad BWSS claims for that matter) is not a very reasonable (or rational) expectation (and/or “argument”) on his part, then such an individual is deemed (by he whose interpretations and/or inferences are the only ones that count) to have “accused [him] of being a very bad and foolish person.”
In this instance, I am the one who has been so deemed. Not because I had actually written anything that might resemble such “accusations”, but simply BWSS. As is, unfortunately – and notwithstanding his protestations to the contrary – all too often the case.
Willis is certainly not one to cite scriptures with any noticeable frequency. And now we most certainly do know why; even if it wasn’t evident in this particular post of his, or in any others that I can recall!
But once he’s thrown a BWSS on the virtual table, he does seem to be quite fond of running (and re-running ad nauseam) his very own carefully crafted scripts. Although it is worth noting that – perhaps for a little variety – he does, on occasion, sparingly (albeit sometimes jarringly!) pepper them with words and/or phrases he might well have picked up from someone else’s table.
YMMV, but that’s the view from here, so to speak 😉
P.S. Willis, don’t worry your un-pony-tailed head! When I do get around to pulling together the evidence (of which, as I had noted, you have very kindly provided an abundance over the last few years) for a post on my own blog, I’ll be sure to let you know. Or, at the very least, I’ll try my best to do so!
In the meantime, do carry on, Recyle-man!
Willis Eschenbach says (April 25, 2014 at 2:30 am): “I fear that you have mistaken me for someone else. I absolutely don’t rock a pony-tail,”
I watched one of your presentations, and thought “Hey, Johanna is right, he does have a– Oh, wait, it’s just his loose eyeglass band.” Might that be the source of her misconception?
Willis Eschenbach says (April 25, 2014 at 3:54 am): “But in this context, what possible threat do I have?”
Ah, the internet, the great equalizer…where the 90-pound weakling who gets sand kicked in his face at the beach is a match for the biggest, hairiest man (or woman) who ever lived!
This thread is a hoot…
Janice makes two posts, is told she is proselytizing for her religion….and leaves over a week ago
…and for the next week, people are proselytizing against religion
proselytizing for a religion…. proselytizing against religion
They are both disgusting
proselytizing is proselytizing……
oh crap, I keep forgetting the mandatory quote:
Willis Eschenbach says:
April 18, 2014 at 11:27 pm
Janice, you using my father-in-law’s death as an excuse for proselytizing for your religion is disgusting.
[snip – personal love dramas written in SHOUTING ALL CAPS aren’t for publication here -mod]
Latitude says:
April 25, 2014 at 6:10 pm
I haven’t noticed anyone doing much proselyzing against religion. I’ve been objecting to proselytizing, but I’m not saying that religion is bad. I said above that I think the Christian message is excellent. I have lauded people above who practice their faith without proselytizing. So clearly I’m not proselytizing against any religion. Nor have others, not that I’ve noticed.
As a result, your claim that there is some kind of moral equivalence is a joke. Janice tried to convert me to Christianity, and told me that my beliefs were all wrong and screwed up. Other than that, nobody’s tried to convert anyone to or from Judaism, Islam, Christianity, atheism, non-theism, Buddhism or any other belief.
Claiming that both sides are somehow equivalent is just a cheap trick to try to win a debate. Sorry, Latitude, you’ll need to do better than that.
w.
Gary Hladik says:
April 25, 2014 at 3:03 pm
Possibly, but inquiring about the manifold sources of johanna’s misconceptions would be a full-time job, so I’ll give the whole subject a pass …
I do find it hilarious, though. I mean, when the worst accusation that your opponent in a debate can aim at you is that you have a ponytail, you’ve won even if you do have a ponytail. But in this case it’s even funnier, because I don’t have a ponytale.
It’s like Hilary above, accusing me of wrongdoing for not being animated enough in my speeches … really, Hilary? She won’t answer my simple question (although to be fair everyone’s run from it just like she has), but she’ll tell me that she doesn’t like the way I give a speech.
Like I said … when your opponents are reduced to that level, it’s clear that they’re out of ammunition and the fight is won.
w.
Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001) says:
April 25, 2014 at 3:03 pm
Willis Eschenbach says: April 25, 2014 at 3:01 am
Dang, Hilary … just dang … so many accusations … so little data. Truly, dear lady, your bitter invective-filled rants, free of any actual facts and full of wrath and venom, are approaching the imbalanced stalker range. “Kid gloves” and “glom onto” and “non-responsive self-serving” and “churning from the windmills” and … seriously, Hilary. You’re losing the plot, and you’ve lost sight of me entirely. You’re talking to some personal funhouse mirror version of me that has nothing to do with who I am.
This is another example of why I ask discourteous folk such as you to quote what I said. In this case, I had said:
As you can see, contrary to your foolish claim, I have had NO expectation that she would return. I wished she would, but there seemed little hope for that. However, I asked her in all good faith to return. You seem to think this was wrong … so if I don’t ask her back I’m bad, and if I do ask her back I’m also bad. Here’s another quote from above:
As I said, your sick fantasy that I harbored a “very strong expectation that such a person should somehow have divined his subsequent “apology” (that clearly really wasn’t) and returned to the thread” is just more of your trying desperately to find something with which to accuse me. As my quote clearly shows, I had no strong expectation that she’d return, that’s just your fevered imagination.
Next, you keep saying that my apology wasn’t sufficient. As I said before, there is only one person on the planet who can judge whether my apology to her was or wasn’t satisfactory, and that’s Janice. Not you. You’re just sticking your long nose into someone else’s business, despite being asked to butt out. Janice may be totally satisfied with my apology, or totally dissatisfied with it … but what you have to say about it is MEANINGLESS. It’s just another attempt to attack me.
I indeed said you accused me of being a very bad and foolish person, for not remembering something. I said:
In response to your totally false accusation, you said it was still my fault you made a false accusation. I was amazed, and said:
I stand by that. You were so consumed with your dislike for me that you stupidly tried to bust me for not quoting something THAT I HAD ACTUALLY QUOTED. Now, you are flailing around trying to get people to not remember that it was your asinine untrue accusation that was the topic under discussion. Nice try.
Actually, I believe I’ve quoted more scripture than you have on this thread, both Buddhist and Christian scripture, plus paraphrasing the gospel according to Saint Godel … I do wish you’d pay attention. Another of your pathetic fantasies strikes a reef of facts.
Oh, great. Now you’re a literary critic … look, Miss Self-Appointed Editor, I get a million page views every year, from people who want to read my words. And you, who also have a blog and are lucky to get a few hundred page views a year, you’re going to school me about how to write a strong and powerful piece?
That’s hilarious. Your arrogance knows no bounds. But like I said elsewhere, when my opponent in a debate starts whining about my writing style, I know for a fact that they’ve lost both the plot and the debate …
I can hardly wait. I love posts that are shrines to hating on me, they’re hilarious. It is so bizarre, though, that people who claim to dislike me so much would spend so much time thinking about me, and planning a hate shrine to me. I can assure you, Hilary … I spend zero time thinking about you.
But if you want to join the other dweebs who can’t stop thinking about me, and are making hate-shrines to me around the web, please be my guest. All that such shrines do is drive traffic to this site, because people will want to see what you are frothing and bellowing about, and then they read my words. I’ll take that comparison any time, I’m bound to look good compared to that.
I truly don’t understand that expletive, “Recyle-man!” I suppose you’re trying valiantly to spell “Recycle”, but that doesn’t make any sense either. What is a recyle-man, or a recycle-man for that matter, and why is it that whatever a recyle-man does is such anathema to you that you are trying so hard to unsuccessfully paste that label on me? What is it supposed to mean?
Truly, Hilary, your endless stalking and content-free abuse of me is becoming a bit creepy, and while the idea of you building a hate-shrine to me as you threaten above is pretty funny … well, your bitterness doesn’t touch me, but that kind of obsession isn’t healthy for you. I’d suggest that you quit while you’re behind, because hating on people is not a good way to go through life.
All the best,
w.
Claiming that both sides are somehow equivalent is just a cheap trick to try to win a debate. Sorry, Latitude, you’ll need to do better than that.
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No I don’t……You would be the first one to jump on me for my lack of reading skills
“people are”….is not followed by some rambling post with a bunch of “I’s” in it
A million page views per year! Just on your own merits, like if you started your own blog!.
Not.
Face it, Willis, your wild and irrational responses to women you don’t like have caused you a lot of trouble. Now, you might claim that this is because they are all lunatics.
But, your response is, oh please, please, don’t throw me into the briar patch!
I also noticed that above you scoffed at the suggestion that someone like Hilary Ostrov might do a systematic review of your feral behaviour when challenged.
Let’s put it this way. Its comparable to having a right-of centre group being audited by the IRS, a greenie being checked out for rorting taxpayers or Michael Mann being audited by McIntyre, as having Hilary Ostrov on the case about posts and comments on blogs. Your arrogant assumption that everyone else is dumber than you has got you into trouble in the past, and will again.
But, whatever floats your Hemingwayesque boat, Willis.
Why is it than every one of your posts starts with things like “now I’m a curious guy”, and so on? People like Bob Tisdale, who I greatly respect, don’t need to insert their favourable personal characteristics into their posts. I mean, Bob could say “Now I’m a handsome guy”, or “Well, none of you will be surprised to hear that I had to find out more about this” in front of his posts. But he doesn’t.
Oh, and in case anyone is in doubt about Wliis’ “position”, he said:
“Janice tried to convert me to Christianity, and told me that my beliefs were all wrong and screwed up.”
Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001) says (April 25, 2014 at 3:03 pm): “P.S. Willis, don’t worry your un-pony-tailed head! When I do get around to pulling together the evidence (of which, as I had noted, you have very kindly provided an abundance over the last few years) for a post on my own blog, I’ll be sure to let you know.”
Careful, Willis. Hilary is the proud owner of WillisEschenbachStinks.com, .net, and .org. What does that tell you?
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Willis, I can’t see how Janice called you a liar, sorry. If her comments have hit a raw nerve, for reasons I can not understand, I don’t think Billy would like you going on and on about something Janice said and you took offense. You were obviously looking for sympathy and understanding and I honestly believe you have handled this very badly. Other people on this blog, have gone through loss and anguish losing those close to us. Especially losing parents or our children. I think the way we handle this without support can become very lonely and we grapple with anger, and setting blame, and deep sorrow one could have done something to prevent a tragedy. We question ‘why’ this happened, it is easier when a person has lived their life to old age. Keeping alive becomes sometimes a burden when someone is terminally ill. And also to those who watch their slow demise. And the feeling you could have done something to stop a child from committing suicide or lack of appropriate support as they spiraled into self destruction.
I am on chemotherapy at present, not because I have cancer or AIDS, yet the same pill is for these disorders. Because I have high platelets. I am angry about this, as I don’t feel as well as I used too before taking this powerful drug. But – my mother died of AML but she was 91. Anyway, my first blood test will see if it is lowering them. But I am not looking for sympathy, just understanding but my mortality seems a bit closer to me now, than it did one month ago. I am determined to fight it. Death is the final solution of ill health and we should find sympathy for those who are faced with it, everyday. Enough said I think.
Sheesh! an 1835-word wall of text rife with so many examples of BWSS (Because. Willis. Said. So.) Although once you remove the hooks from my post to which he’s appended one or more of his non-responsive ‘even when he’s wrong, he’s always right’ recyclings, the word count is reduced by approx. 600.
Not to mention the fact that my comment wasn’t even addressed to him (except for my postscript), but rather to those who might be inclined to do their own research, in order to verify for themselves whether or not my observations of his posting patterns are valid. Unlike some, I prefer not to tell people how they’re supposed to (or in the case of some, virtually obliged to!) read my comments (or those of others).
Is that so?! Silly me! Of course, it must be so. BWSS.
Oh, but I do understand, completely! What I don’t understand – and what you seem to be misreading, misapprehending and/or incapable of explaining – however, is why anyone in his/her right mind would be still be “waiting for an apology” (regardless of whether or not s/he was “hoping for”, “wished for” or “expecting” such “apology”) when s/he had clearly and unambiguously told the “offender” that her/his presence on the thread was not welcome. Notwithstanding your oft-repeated self-serving excuse that you had subsequently (i.e. when there was no indication that the alleged “offender” was even reading the thread) “apologized” while continuing to blame the victim.
No, I have said no such thing. What I have said, although perhaps not in so many words, is that it was beyond “insufficient”. I appreciate that this may well be your perception. And if so, I thank you for confirming an observation I have made previously to the effect that your “perceptions” are the only ones that count – and will trump the actual words of others every single time.
What I did say earlier in this thread, however (not because I’m “defending” anyone, but because I don’t believe in re-inventing perfectly good wheels):
I appreciate that you may not think it’s permissible for others to paraphrase or use analogies, when making their case. But the fact remains that for many, this is perfectly permissible – notwithstanding any of your perceptions.
I didn’t say it was your “fault” (or “still your fault” for that matter). Nor did I say I “disliked” what you said. Hell, I didn’t even tell you how ignorant and off the wall it was of you to declare – as you most certainly did – in your “response” to johanna:
I took full responsibility for my laughter and for my unforgivable oversight. You may not perceive it that way, and perhaps in your eyes, such unfounded accusations emanating from your keyboard are no laughing matter.
But … well, to be honest I’m not quite sure how to break this to you, Willis. So (brace yourself!) I’m going to be quite blunt: While you have repeatedly made it quite obvious that your perceptions are the only ones that count, the fact remains that your perceptions are your problem. Not mine, nor that of anyone whose words you choose to depict in a way that is so utterly far-removed from anything they might actually have said!
No doubt BWSS rules, as usual!
Oh, look at that folks! The only valid apology is one that is delivered in the manner Willis has decreed that it should be delivered! Amazing, eh?!
Now, isn’t that just the cat’s whiskers?! He starts off by accusing me of “stalking” and he ends by accusing me of “stalking”. Such poetic and “powerful” crafted symmetry, eh?!
But just for the record, so that I can prepare myself for your next performance, Willis … I do wonder what the “tipping point” might be in your books, before you feel justified in hurling one of your patented volley of baseless insults and declaring (BWSS) that the person you are ostensibly addressing is “obsessed” and “approaching the imbalanced stalker range” and/or engaging in “endless stalking”.
You see, by my count (as of this writing and excluding this comment), there are 528 comments on this thread; of which I had written nine (9). Four (4) of the nine were directly addressed to you, Willis. And while the other five may have been about you and/or your words/actions (as are many comments by others in this thread), I’m not aware of any rule which says this is verboten.
OTOH, of your approx. 84 comments in this thread, nine (9) were – at least ostensibly – addressed directly to me (plus a few other comments of yours in which you took my name in vain, so to speak!)
So, as I said, just for the record … What is the magic “formula”, eh?!
Since your direct comments to me outnumber mine to you by more than two to one, perhaps you would kindly quantify the number by which your comments to me must exceed mine to you before you make the determination that I (or anyone else for that matter) am “obsessed with proving that [you are] the devil incarnate” and “approaching the imbalanced stalker range” and/or engaging in “endless stalking”.
P.S. Also just for the record … Notwithstanding your accusation/declaration/allegation that I had “[accused you] of wrongdoing for not being animated enough in my speeches […] she’ll tell me that she doesn’t like the way I give a speech.” And notwithstanding your failure to “quote my words” (or even provide a link!), what I had actually written (four days ago!) was:
By what leap of logic do you infer/perceive – and/or whatever the hell it is you do before you put fingers to keyboard – from the above simple observation of a (mere but obvious) contrast that I have “[accused you] of wrongdoing” or that I “[don’t] like the way [you] give a speech”? Or, for that matter, that I – or anyone – has declared you to be a “bad and foolish person”?
Or is this simply yet another of far too many instances of ‘it must be true’, BWSS – over and over and over again?!