Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
As we were driving north today from the Lake District, we passed through the town of Troutbeck, and I was reminded how much of my knowledge of the UK derives from songs and poetry. In this case the song was:
D’ye ken John Peel, wi’ his coat so gray?
He lived at Troutbeck once on a day
But now he’s gone, gone far far away,
Wi’ his hounds and his horn in the morning.
It was in a book of folk songs we had as a kid, along with a picture of John Peel like this one:
As I was living on a cattle ranch in the American West, this represented another planet to me, a world where men rode saddles without saddle horns, and used their horses to chase foxes instead of cattle … so I can’t tell you what a pleasure it was to chance to go through Troutbeck on our way to Scotland. What towns in Scotland do I know from songs?
The only town I can think of is from the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens, a ballad about the ocean, which begins:
The king sits in Dumfermline town.
Drinking the blude-red wine: O
‘O whare will I get a skeely skipper,
To sail this new ship of mine?’
O up and spake an eldern knight,
Sat at the king’s right knee:
‘Sir Patrick Spens is the best sailor
That ever saild the sea.’
We might get to Dumfermline town, it’s a bit north of Edinburgh. As a sailor, the song impressed me because whoever wrote it knew a lot about ships. In particular, they describe something only a sailor would recognize, a procedure called “fothering”. Fothering is used to plug a hole below the waterline of a ship, and I’m glad I never had to do it.
To fother a hole below the waterline, you tie ropes to the corners of a piece of canvas, and you pull the canvas underneath the ship to where the hole is. The pressure of the water pulls the canvas into the hole, and the ropes from the four corners keep the canvas from being sucked inside. Here’s the description from the ballad.
He hadna gane a step, a step,
A step but barely ane,
When a bout [bolt] flew out of our goodly ship,
And the salt sea it came in.
‘Gae fetch a web o the silken claith [cloth],
Another o the twine,
And wap them into our ship’s side,
And letna the sea come in.’
They fetched a web o the silken claith,
Another o the twine,
And they wapped them roun that gude ship’s side,
But still the sea came in.
O laith [loathe], laith were our gude Scots lords
To weet their cork-heeld shoon [shoes];
But lang or a’ the play was playd,
They wat [wet] their hats aboon [also].
Any mony was the feather-bed
That flattered on the faem [foam],
And mony was the gude lord’s son
That never mair cam hame [home].
But I digress … we rolled north through the pastoral glacier-smoothed countryside to Vindolanda, the Roman fort along Hadrian’s wall, that dates from around the first century AD. It was the perfect day for it, overcast and rainy … I can see why the soldiers might not have cared for the duty along the northern frontier of the Empire. The fort is quite impressive, covering a large area.
It’s easily distinguished from the ancient local stonework because that is mostly laid without cement, that amazing Roman invention, while the walls of the fort and the buildings were all mortared into place.
There is a most engrossing museum at Vindolanda of all of the things that they’ve found excavating the fort. For whatever reasons, much of the leather goods have survived, and are in the museum. And wandering around the museum, the thing that struck me the most is how little our basic human actions have changed in 2,000 years. For example, look at the lovely workmanship on this pair of leather shoes:
With their graceful lines, they’d be high fashion on the streets of Rome today. What I learned was that humans, then and now, have been driven to design things, not just for utility, but also for the sheer style and beauty. Here’s the sole of another pair of shoes:
The Roman cobbler 2,000 years ago could have just put the nails in a random pattern, or in squares, or whatever. But noooo … he put them in a lovely, graceful pattern, so whoever walked with those shoes left lovely footprints.
Here’s an axe, from the same time. Check out the lovely lines. It could have been just an equally functional but ugly chunk of iron, but whoever made it built a thing of beauty:
From the “nothing new under the sun” department, here’s a Roman safety-pin brooch …
… and a brass necklace with an exquisitely wrought chain:
At one time I earned my living making jewelry, and although I’m a decent silversmith, I can assure you that the making of such a chain by hand requires someone with much, much greater skill than mine … and that although you can buy a chain made along the exact same lines today, with equally fine chainwork, it will have been made by machine.
One of the stranger finds was a ladies wig, which the label said was made out of “hair moss”, whatever that might be:
Note the combs. The design of that double-sided comb has remained unchanged until this very day.
The other thing that was amazing were the collection of letters (written on wood rather than paper) that have been excavated. The concerns of the soldiers back then are just the same as the people of today—friends, and debts, and birthdays. They’re all online here, and are fascinating in their ordinariness. Here’s a sample:
… I have sent (?) you … pairs of socks from Sattua, two pairs of sandals and two pairs of underpants, two pairs of sandals …”
My main conclusion from the museum was that while we have come a long way in the last two millennia, the things that impel us and drive us, the things that we value and create for our own use, the things that we care about, haven’t changed much at all—lovely objects, and warm socks …
After that we drove out to see Hadrians wall. The Romans did like straight lines … mostly though, I was impressed by the scope of their imagination. I mean, if I’d been in charge of the northern defenses, I don’t think that my first thought would have been “Hey, how about we build a giant stone wall that cuts the whole country in half, yeah, that’s the ticket … and oh, yeah, we’re gonna complete it in six years. OK, andiamo, boys, we don’t have much time … “
In any case, here’s a section of Hadrians wall …
I can understand why they abandoned it after only a few decades … heck, it’s only about a metre tall, what good would that do against even the shortest of Scottish barbarians? …
We’re up in Glasgow now, tomorrow we’re turning east, off to see the famous Falkirk Wheel. At least it’s famous to me, one of the few places in Scotland I knew much about before coming here.
My best to all, thanks for all of the support,
w.
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Every little helps Willis (see Latimer Alder video above) . Was that a Freudian slip?
RoHa says:
September 11, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Invermuir is too great a sacrifice for grammar & rhyme, I’m afraid, although Inverness is indeed on the sea, ir muir.
righttimewrongplace says:
September 11, 2013 at 6:23 pm
You’re welcome. The TV show is thought-provoking, but pure rubbish, I’m afraid to say. The presenter needs to explain why he’s presenting the history of the period in English instead of Welsh.
The fact is that the Saxon pirates raided the coast, whether invited in or not, & over the course of centuries AD 400 to 600 established themselves in eastern England. The invasion may not have featured battles & genocide, yet the replacement was inexorable.
milodonharlani says: “… although Inverness is indeed on the sea, ir muir.”
I sense a conflation of “muir” and “mer” or “mare”, the latter being from the language that gave name to the famous Weston-super-mare (locally known as Weston-super-mud).
But “muir” is Scots for “moore”. Inbhir + muir make a strange mix. Probably a parody.
A very obvious suggestion for the Edinburgh area is Rosslyn Chapel. Amazing stone carvings.
As you pass from Falkirk to Edinburgh you will see the evidence of the first shale oil boom. Great rust red hills of shale waste – what was left when the hydrocarbons had been evaporated off. Good news for the whale, because before that oil for lighting and lubrication came mostly from the whale. The shale was howked out by hand underground. James, Paraffin, Young made his fortune. The discovery of crude oil in USA made mining and processing shale uncompetitive.
Good luck with you travels and thanks for the posts.
Here’s the evidence WJohn mentioned:
http://goo.gl/maps/BDDyT
That pile of red sand is what remained after the paraffins were baked out. In it, you can recognise the same red sandstone used as a building material in the area.
Anthony B says:
Willis – the Border country south of Edinburgh and on your route back to England is very beautiful, and if you wander by Melrose you’ll want to visit Abbotsford, the home until 1832 of Sir Walter Scott, Scotland’s greatest gift to the world of letters, an imaginative genius and the only writer in English whose name can be spoken in the same breath as that of Shakespeare.
When the Romans were here it was much warmer so wet gray days were perhaps not as numerous. They also grew red grape vines to the north of York so drinking the local water was not on the menu, red wine was the drink to have. The wall has a good example of the communal crapper with washing facilities.
As has been mentioned, John Peel would hunt on foot, but not because horses can’t cope with Lake District fells (they can, if you get a fell pony not one of the expensive thoroughbreds, which wierdly enough is what locals tend to do). It is more because unlike in the south, hunting was not an aristocratic pursuit (or exclusively so anyway). Cumbria has long been sheep country, and the Lake District breeds (apart from the recent Leicester-Herdwick crosses) tend to lamb late (something to do with living on reasonably big and exposed hills). Foxes however have their young consistently about the same time across the UK (late-April to May, about the time the Herdwick and Swaledale lambs are gambolling about). So in Cumbria a fox might take a lamb quite frequently, whereas in the south lambs were older and bigger (generally) and a fox would never take one. Thus fox hunting in Cumbria was always an affair for the farmers, rather than those with game to protect. As Cumbria industrialised (that landscape is actually post-industrial, if not intensive, not natureal) the farmers’ neighbouring miners and smelters, quarrymen and smugglers would also joint the hunt for the ‘sport’. Hence John Peel’s popularity in song – he’s not some aristocratic huntsman, but rather a hunt leader where fox hunting was a popular activity.
Where did the virgins go from Inverness? why, to Kirriemuir, as we all know; that’s where the real action was.
While in that area try to get a copy of the poems of William McGonagall, well known as the world’s worst poet, particularly on the subject of the Tay bridge disaster
if you return South, I hope you get the chance to visit places such as Fountains Abbey, Whitby Abbey -synod of whitby (wikipedia) – or Alnwick. They will give you a sense of time that is almost unbelievable for a Californian – substantial structures from a long time ago that have been ruins for 500 years.
“””””””…….Diogenes says:
September 12, 2013 at 8:56 am
if you return South, I hope you get the chance to visit places such as Fountains Abbey, Whitby Abbey -synod of whitby (wikipedia) – or Alnwick. ……”””””””
Well my paternal grandparents came from Alnwick (anik), which I understand is about as far north as you can be in England, and not be in Scotland. Never been there so I don’t know if that’s true.
But Alnwick is famous the world over, as being the home of Hardy Bros; the builders of “gentlemen’s” fly reels, and rods. Of special note is the Hardy “Perfect” model fly reel, which in its original classic form, is a lot less than perfect.
Oh it works great, but it just doesn’t like any normal fishing environment; paint wears off, and some of the metals corrode. Who would paint a fly reel. I have one; the 2 7/8ths inch model; somewhat uncommon, if not rare. Sadly I did not discover that it needs to be enclosed in a vacuum or perhaps Argon atmosphere at all times, so it doesn’t corrode. Well I still fish it; I shouldn’t even own it, since I do not fly fish for trout. Works great on White Bass though.
Hardy recently came out with a brand new updated “Perfect” to eliminate the muck metals. Too expensive for me these days.
But seriously, Hardy Bros, are a great name in the angling game; compared to Hardy, Orvis, is kind of a Volkswagen outfit.
I envy you Willis on your trip. Thanks for taking us along with you.
Err … because nobody outside N. Wales speaks ‘Welsh’ and so rather than having a potential audience of any English speaking individual on the Planet (billions) we would have a potential audience of about 100,000 whining gits living north of ‘Aberystwyth’. Just accept the fact that you were defeated under Edward the first about a thousand years ago and get on with your life (in English).
I swear to my many and various deities that once we are rid of whining Jocks in 2014 we will have an England wide vote as to who else can go. Whining Welsh and Northern Irish will be out 20 minutes after voting starts. Good luck to you all in your new venture.
3×2 says:
September 12, 2013 at 11:57 am
Plaid Cymru thanks you!
After your proposed devolution (degitification?) process of Great Britain, then what becomes of Little England? Yorkshire & Northumberland have never liked being ruled by London, in fact seemed historically to prefer Copenhagen or Oslo. Ditto Cumbria Dublin. The industrial West Midlands might want to join its neighbors to the north. The rump Littler England of the south would at least probably enjoy a permanent Tory majority in its parliament.
Can’t tell to what extent you’re kidding, but my point was that without the Anglo-Saxon invasion or settlement, the language of what is now England would resemble modern Welsh. Or maybe Danish or Icelandic, unless you also rule out the invasion of the Great Heathen Army, leading to the Danelaw, & the Norwegian colonization of eastern Ireland & Cumbria.
Hi Willis,
glad you are enjoying the UK. Sorry to backtrack on your earlier posts about canals. Solition waves( wave packets) were first obseved in a canal in 1834. Wikipedia provides a good source for this phenomenon for those who may be interested.
Due to your general popularity, next time you or Mr Watts are in the UK please let us know, avoiding the obvious trolls. It would be a pleasure to have a reasoned and amicable open minded discussion in a suitable setting ( i.e a pub). Looking at your following on your posts you have a large choice of such venues
All the best
London247
Please consider, on your way back down the east side of the UK, CRAGSIDE. This is where William Armstrong lived and built an estate based on hydroelectricity.
Willis,
It was the Antonine Wall that was abandoned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonine_Wall
My generation of school children were taught reading, writing & ‘rithmetic by rote & reciting our tables. Thus were we equipped to enjoy novels like “Eagle or the Ninth” & learn about our history at the same time. Rosemay Sutcliffe based her book on the disappearance of the Legio IX Hispana (Ninth Legion) from the historical record, following an expedition north to deal with Caledonian tribes in 117 AD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_of_the_Ninth
Septimius Severus was a Berber, who became Roman Emperor and had he not died in 211 AD in Eboracum (York), then the Romans might have conquered Scotland as well?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimus_Severus
Best regards,
Perry
Perry,
I love that kind of history. Give me more!
And thanks, Willis, for another fine article!
Google says “*gay”:
http://mainlynorfolk.info/martin.carthy/songs/johnpeel.html
http://www.joe-offer.com/folkinfo/songs/svg/355.svg
Fell off ‘is ‘orse, poor lad.
John peels coat wasn’t grey, it was GAY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel_%28huntsman%29
As a couple of others have mentioned, John Peel’s was a foot pack – it’s impossible to hunt on horseback over the fell country; the image is therefore quite wrong. It’s a mistake made by man Brits too of course.
Peel hunted what is now Blencathra country (the area over which a hunt operates is called a ‘country’) and some of their hounds are descended from his:
http://www.blencathrafoxhounds.com/BlencathraLeafletbyHuntsAssociation1950.htm
Their main web page: http://www.blencathrafoxhounds.com/
There are several versions of the song – it would have been sung extempore, not written down, originally of course. I’ve never encountered one which mentions Troutback, I have to confess. These are the usual versions:
http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/salbu/JohnPeel.html
A little about Peel – there is a lot online – from a local admirer, with a portrait of the rugged farmer who hunted into his 70s:
http://blog.mikerendell.com/?p=3365
It’s worth mentioning that in the main, exactly the same self-styled ‘liberals’ who fanatically follow the global warming scam are just those who tried so hard to get hunting banned, in the face of all the evidence from those who actually know what they are talking about. If they had entirely succeeded, individual packs of hounds bred for their own terrain, with bloodlines traceable in some cases back to the C18th, would have been eradicated
PS The version of ‘D’ye ken John Peel’ which Mike Rendell quotes, which is I believe from the original Ms, does mention Troutback in the final verse, Willis will be glad to know
Never mind the lowlands. Get yourself up to Skye and a visit to the Talisker distillery.
All will become clear after that.
Bob says:
September 11, 2013 at 5:40 pm
“…the wall allowed the Romans to control commercial activity between Scotland and England. You could not get through the gates without paying a toll, or being taxed on your merchandise…”
Correct, and a view that a few of the mainstream archaeologists are starting to support.
If Hadrian was sane, and there is no reason to think otherwise, he would not have invested the huge amounts of funds needed to build his trade restricting wall without wanting a profit.
The Romans, like the British, were a nation of traders and the toll system and the related traveller ‘comfort’ facilities on the major Scotland/England trade routes should have given him a very good return on his investment. A sceptical approach is needed when reading mainstream history, just as with CAGW, – always follow the money.
Nicholas Peel says:
September 12, 2013 at 8:28 am
I sing my sad song of the Tay Bridge disaster,
Of which William McGonagall is the undisputed master …
w.
I could use a wee dram of Talisker right about now.
Sam The First says:
September 13, 2013 at 3:35 am
There are several versions of the song – it would have been sung extempore, not written down, originally of course. I’ve never encountered one which mentions Troutback, I have to confess. These are the usual versions …
Many, many of the versions on the web have Troutbeck in the song, and also have him riding a horse. Here’s one from the Wiltshire Council:
Here’s another comment in an interesting history here:
See the bit in there about the horses? I doubt that he had them and didn’t ride them to hunt.
Wikipedia (FWIW) sez:
Unless he fell off of a cow, a fox, or a dog while hunting, that sure sounds like a fall from a horse. This was common because of the obstacles that needed to be jumped. And from an early version of the song:
Unless he and Peel could jump like Olympians, I think they might have been on horses when they went over the rasper-fence, the gate and the bar …
So I’m not buying the idea that John Peel didn’t ride to the hunt … sorry, too much evidence the other direction.
w.