Rolling With The Sarsen Stones

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

I woke up this morning in London to a gentle rain, and was reminded of a comment by Mark Twain. When Twain was living in the UK, a couple of his friends from the US were out to his house to tea. A week later, he writes to someone else:

“We furnished them a bright day and comfortable weather—and they used it all up, in their extravagant American way. Since then we have sat by coal fires, evenings.”

So, hoping I hadn’t used up all the good weather, in a light rain we packed and stowed and jumped on the tube to Heathrow, where we rented a car and drove west to Salisbury.

And as always, there were surprises. The first surprise was how quickly the city was replaced by lovely green countryside. And not only countryside, but farms, large farms, growing wheat from the looks of it. I’d expected miles and miles of suburbs, but that didn’t happen at all.

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(Click to enlarge) The second surprise was that the rain went away, and although the day was cloudy, it was lovely.

The very best part of the day, however, was being taken on a tour of both Stonehenge and Avebury by Tim Daw. It was great to finally meet Tim. Back in 2007, a couple of years before I started writing for WUWT, Tim was gracious enough to post an article of mine about the Central England Temperature (CET) record. At present, that blog is inactive, but he is still running his family farm … and in addition, he also  works at Stonehenge, and is an amateur archaeologist himself. So there could not have been a better guide.

So we all jumped into Tim’s car and he drove us from Salisbury to Stonehenge. I knew nothing about Stonehenge … and as it turns out … nobody does. Oh, that’s not quite accurate, we know that they made urns with collars around them, and that they built long barrows for their dead, not round barrows. We know that the blue stones came from Wales, and that the sarsen stones came from about twenty miles north of Stonehenge. We know that in the Middle Ages people thought Merlin built Stonehenge.

Other than that, however, I fear we know very little more than the people from the Middle Ages about who built Stonehenge, or why. But despite that lack of knowledge, or perhaps in part because of that, the place has an awesome and remote majesty that captures nearly everyone’s imagination. Here’s what it looked like today when we were there:

stonehenge

From there, we went to Avebury, which I’m told is another “henge”. My obviously over-valued estimate of my own knowledge of the oddities of the English language has taken a thrashing on this trip. I’ve found out a few things about British place names I never knew. One was that a “minster”, as in “Westminster”, means a big church. Next, a “stoke”, as in Greystoke, is a stockade. I found out that a “staple” or “stable” in a place-name means a market, and that “Bury”, as in Salisbury where I am now, means a fortified town. I learned that “sarsen” is a corruption of “Saracen”. My new bible on these matters is here.

I also now know that a “henge” is a circular earthen wall with a ditch inside it.

Now, all over the planet people dig circular earthen walls with ditches. Why? Well, for defense, of course. It’s a great plan. The attackers are all down in the ditch, and you stand up on top and shoot at them with whatever armament you might have. So, what’s wrong with this picture?

Well … the henges on Salisbury plain all have the ditches on the inside, not the outside. They would be totally useless for defense. So the obvious question arises … why were they built?

Bad news in that regard. Nobody knows. After asking Tim question after question about any and all aspects of the builders’ lives, I decided I could just record him saying “Sadly, no one knows”, and dispense with him altogether—I could just ask the question, and then play the recording. Not that he is ignorant on these matters, quite the contrary. It’s just that regarding why the henges were built … no one knows. Regarding the beliefs or origins of those who built them … no one knows. How did they move the stones? See the previous answer …

So with my ignorance doubly confirmed, and then reconfirmed, we left Stonehenge, and Tim took us onwards to Avebury. This is another famous nearby henge. It is much larger, encircling the entire village of Avebury. And the henge is much bigger as well, perhaps a thousand feet (300m) across, with a much higher wall and a much deeper ditch.

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Again, like Stonehenge, Avebury is imbued with a sense of profound mystery—what is the purpose of the wall and the ditch? But this time the mystery is bizarrely juxtaposed with everyday life:

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avebury 3

After we walked all the way around the circular earthen mound and came back down to the inside of the henge, the only thing I noticed was the sense of privacy, enclosure, and comfort that the surrounding earthen wall provided. Was that why they built the hedges? Mentally, I press the button on the tape recorder and hear Tim’s voice saying “No one knows …”.

From there, it was a lovely afternoon drive back to Salisbury. The clouds had built up. There were a few thunderstorms in the distance, and beneath a couple of them was “virga”, falling rain that evaporates before hitting the ground. The earth’s climate control system was back in operation, keeping the English countryside from overheating.

Back in Salisbury, we thanked Tim for his kindness. He was the very best of guides, knowledgeable and patient with rank novices like myself … a point of view for me to ponder on, indeed.

Then we walked into Salisbury town to see the Cathedral … and I’m here to tell you that it’s not any ordinary pile of stones. I’ve seem piles of stones in the form of cathedrals before … but this is a double-dyed, no holds barred cathedral.

We didn’t have much time to go in, it was late and just before closing, but it was open. The Salisbury Cathedral was built in the 13th century, and has been used continuously ever since. One of the four copies of the Magna Carta is kept there, but because of the late hour we didn’t see it. However, a service was going on, and the girl’s choir was singing when we entered the Cathedral. It was the perfect accompaniment to the structure, lovely voices echoing around the massive vaulted interior:

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Even in the Cathedral, however, my karma seems to be following me, no surprise there. In this case, I seem to have English clocks on the agenda. Here’s the clock from the Cathedral:

salisbury cathedral clock

And a closeup of the gear train:

salisbury cathedral clock gears

So what’s unique about this clock? Well, other than the bizarre nature of the gears, there’s nothing unique … other than the fact that it’s rumored to be the world’s oldest working clock, and it’s been running since 1386. It’s so old it never had hands to tell the time, just a bell that it rang when it was time for prayers. How curious, that the desire of humans to pray on a regular basis should set in train the long chain of clockish events that end up with John Harrison’s chronometer …

Anyhow, that’s all the news that’s fit to print from Salisbury. Tomorrow, we’re off to Bath. My thanks to all of the folks who have provided commentary, suggestions, and most importantly, offers of assistance. They are much appreciated even though they are not individually acknowledged. And my particular thanks to Tim for a most enjoyable and educational afternoon.

Regards to all,

w.

PS—On the way back from Avebury, Tim stopped in the village next to his to show us a version of the British Library that he was involved in setting up. It looks like this:

british library

It’s a “Take One, Leave One” library, and despite plenty of nay-sayers, it has worked well both there and in Tim’s village. It seems that when Post and Telecom were taking out the phone booths, they offered to sell them to the villages for one pound. So in his village, Tim and some others said sure, we’ll take it, it’ll make a great library.

But of course, this being the UK, nothing goes so simply. The day before they were to take possession of it, some drunken yobbo hit the phone booth with his car and knocked it at an angle. Didn’t damage it much, just bent it over some.

“That’s no problem”, sez Tim and his mates, “we’ll take it anyhow.”

“Oh, no, no,”, say the P&T folks, “can’t do that. It’s all super-dangerous now, someone might get hurt, we can’t sell it to you”.

So Tim and the villagers say, “So what if it’s dangerous? I mean, we’ll just put a chain ’round it and tip it back to vertical.”

“Ooooh, you can’t do that!”, sez the P&T, “It’s not your property, it belongs to the UK Government”.

Hard to fault that logic …

So then the P&T sent out a big truck and a big crane, along with one man to work on the job, two men to direct him, three men to lean on shovels and explain things to the villagers, and an Obersturmbannführer to run the whole show. They stood the phone booth back up at great government expense, and said “OK, now it’s not a dangerous phone booth any more, so we can turn it over to you”. So Tim and the folks thanked them, and put in the books.

And to complete the story … the P&T never did come around to collect their pound. Government work at its finest, find someone doing something imaginative and useful, and get in their way. What strange animals we are indeed …

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steveta_uk
September 7, 2013 3:52 am

Willis, a little bit of ‘henge’ trivia for you.
The origin of the word henge seems to be that it is what “Stonehenge” is – a henge of stone. There is no known use of the word henge prior to it being a part of the name Stonehenge.

Tim Crome
September 7, 2013 4:06 am

Willis,
When you get further round I would recommend a drive along the North Norfolk coast, it’s very beautiful and nit on the way to anywhere so is relatively undeveloped. There’s an active fishing industry and has been for hundreds of years. Visit Brancaster Staithe and watch the 8 or more m high tides cover and uncover the salt marshes, Burnham Market (sometimes Chelse by the Sea) has a fantastic open green in the centre with a stream running through it when it rains enough. In Overy staithe and Blackney watch out for the marks high up ob the houses showing where the last great flood in 1953 got to (60 years ago!) and in Wells you can see an old harbour that, at the height of the wool trade, wa the 3rd largest in the UK, you wohldn’t think so now but it has seen a new lease of life as the maintenance and operation centre for offshore wind in the are
Living in Norway the last 30 years it’s the bit of Britain I miss most.
Enjoy it while you can.

SadButMadLad
September 7, 2013 4:10 am

@eco-greek. So the UK country side is all man made and man maintained. Even our wild animals are maintained by man. It is not natural anymore. It’s all designed to look good in the eyes of the public not necessarily for the best interests of actual nature. And all done in a very overbearing overly bureaucratic manner when in reality very little planning and control is actually necessary. 90% of the UK is green but the environmentalists make it seem like even a small housing estate is concreting over the whole landscape so the aims and needs of humans come second to that of “nature”.

dave ward
September 7, 2013 4:45 am

Another interesting reminder that people rarely explore their “own back yard”, so to speak. I’ve travelled all over Australia and New Zealand, but large parts of Blighty are still a mystery to me!
I must make amends…
By the way, the “Post & Telephones” as you called them would have been BT (formerly British Telecoms) by the time that phone box was sold off. So It wasn’t “government property” after all, but a private, stock market listed company, trying to divest itself of anything not making a profit!

richardscourtney
September 7, 2013 5:16 am

SadButMadLad:
re your post at September 7, 2013 at 4:10 am.
Clearly, you have not understood the excellent post by eco-geek at September 7, 2013 at 2:58 am
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/09/06/rolling-with-the-sarcen-stones/#comment-1410209
There is no square inch of the UK which is not affected – directly or indirectly – by the hand of man. This has been true for many centuries, and much we take for granted is not ‘natural’: for example, our downlands only exist because we introduced rabbits many centuries ago.
And as eco-geek says, we now have the wealth to deliberately decide how we want our environment to be. We live in a garden of our own making, and we tend that garden.
Willis will understand much more of what he sees in England if he reads the post from eco-geek.
For example, Willis would not have been surprised at the distinction between urban development and ‘countryside’ which is fixed by areas of Green Belt.
And if Americans understood these things in the same way we British do then they would not be building over the Kona coast on Hawaii so they would not be destroying my favourite piece of our planet.
Richard

Nick Mearing-Smith
September 7, 2013 5:18 am

There is an excellent book that considers megalithic structures in the UK, including Stonehenge, and their original purpose. It is called Uriel’s Machine: Reconstructing the Disaster Behind Human History by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas. Their hypothesis, that such structures were astronomical devices, has more credibility to me than archaeological theories about religious purposes, since they correlate physical evidence with written evidence.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
September 7, 2013 5:55 am

The “public library” apparently has a fire extinguisher inside. So if the outside was on fire, you’d enter a burning structure to get it. If the books inside caught fire, then the “best practice” is to leave the door closed anyway.
Since you’re already trusting the public to respect the books and the “building”, why not leave the extinguisher outside, either mounted to the side or in its own enclosure?
People, I am very surprised by you all. This many comments, and you haven’t asked something of Willis that’s very important.
Willis, when you were in Salisbury, did you stop for a steak? I’ve heard they’re very good.

London247
September 7, 2013 6:15 am

Dear Willis
I am glad you enjoyed the scenery around Stonhenge. A lot of this is due to the fact that large areas of Salisbury Plain area a military training ground and have been for over a hundred years. Just a couple of miles to the north of Stonehenge are Upavon and Larkhill where British miltary aviation have their origins. Larkhill was the first RFC ( predecessor of the RAF) airfield and Upavon provided training for many of the pilots for WW1.
If you enjoy fishing try some of the chalk rivers ( espacially) the River Test. You will need a licence and landowners permission ( and pay a fee).
Hope you enjoy Bath.

Gareth Phillips
September 7, 2013 6:18 am

Coming from a family which includes archeologists, I have always understood that Stonehenge marked the winter solstice and lunar positions more than the summer solstice. The rationale is that Neolithic farmers needed to be pretty precise about when to sow crops and carry out various time related activities. In the absence of clocks the stones are pretty useful for that purpose. Marking midsummer would not have been much use to early farmers. It must also have had a ‘ceremonial’ use, otherwise why did neolithic people visit from as far away as the Alps, and why go the the trouble of obtaining high quality blue stone from the Prescelli Mountains in Wales? I suspect it may have also generated models on climate related issues. 🙂

phlogiston
September 7, 2013 6:35 am

A beautiful photo of Salisbury cathedral. With the girls choir this must indeed have lifted ones spirit. Folks sometimes attack Christianity for trampling on older pagan religions but its good to see inspiring symbols of both beliefs peacefully coexisting. Some “religions” one can think of would never tolerance this. Freedom, tolerance and the preserving of ancient beauty are worth fighting for.

Ian Austin
September 7, 2013 7:02 am

No were in the UK is very far from the coast. Try to see (or is it sea!) some of it. Some of the best scenery in the British Isles and Ireland is at the coast.
See
Ian.

deklein
September 7, 2013 7:03 am

In the car park at Stonehenge there are said to be the remnants of pine post holes, the oldest of which is approximately 10,000 years old, twice the age of the henge itself. At that time, Britain would not have been an island but would still have been attached to the rest of Europe.
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/daysout/properties/stonehenge/history-and-research/history/

Ian Austin
September 7, 2013 7:03 am

…See: plenty of guides on line.

johnmarshall
September 7, 2013 7:04 am

If you like cathedrals then here is a list on your trip round the UK.
Durham.
York Minster
Lincoln
Ely
All worth a look. All different. Lincoln also has a copy of Magna Carta.
Stonehenge is much older than Middle Ages, about 4500 years old and used by Druids, we are told. It is aligned with the Summer Solstice sunrise.

September 7, 2013 7:07 am

Silbury Hill. As a somewhat wild 20 year old. I took Mescaline on Silbury Hill on Midsummer’s Night of 1972. A fine night 🙂

David
September 7, 2013 7:40 am

Willis: ‘I expected miles and miles of suburbs…’
The reason, Willis, is because of our Green Belt policies – which ensure that towns and cities do not spread ever outwards..
EXCEPT of course that our present government is in the process of dismantling this bastion of town planning policy – or at best allowing developers to ‘bend the rules’…
‘Follow the money’, eh..?

Barbara
September 7, 2013 7:42 am

One interesting point about Stonehenge is that, although it is the origin of the term ‘henge’, strictly speaking it isn’t a true henge (as you mention in your piece, true henges have the ditch inside the bank – like Arbor Low, for instance – while Stonehenge’s ditch is actually *outside* the bank). Technically, in that sense, Stonehenge is more akin to early neolithic causewayed camps rather than other henges. Fun, eh.
If you want to delve further, the most recent attempt to try and understand Stonehenge is the Stonehenge Riverside Project (2003-2009) – an integrated programme of landscape study and excavation involving co-operation between specialists from five universities (Sheffield, Manchester, Bristol, Bournemouth and UCL). They concluded that Stonehenge had been associated with cremation burial right from the start, and that it had been built as a unifying project to bring people of east and west stone age Britain together. Details and book reference (21012) here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge_Riverside_Project

Theo Goodwin
September 7, 2013 7:50 am

ralfellis says:
September 6, 2013 at 9:05 pm
I am pleased to have my knowledge expanded. Thank You.
What I see as distinctive about brochs is the double-wall construction and the egg shell shape of the walls. The walls are not vertical. Somewhat less distinctive is the flat-stone engineering. The brochs in Scotland that I have visited have a flat-stone construction that could have been erected by one man working over a long period of time.
The double wall encloses a space about four feet in width and there are several floors in that space. At Glenelg, there are three floors, I believe.
Brochs in Scotland have a living space that is about 30 feet in diameter at the base of the broch. For the elite among a small community, a broch would serve nicely as a safe place during a raid. The very fact that these structures are not forts that might survive a siege is another aspect of their distinctiveness.

Theo Goodwin
September 7, 2013 8:00 am

ralfellis says:
September 6, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Please specify your criteria for what counts as a broch. Best as I can tell, any round, walled stone structure built within the last 5500 years will do. Notice that I have been rather specific in describing the brochs in Scotland. What I have emphasized is the double-wall construction and the egg shell shape of both walls. I continue to believe that such structures are unique to Scotland. Do you have examples of double-walled egg shaped structures outside of Scotland?

RACookPE1978
Editor
September 7, 2013 8:04 am

Tim Daw says:
September 6, 2013 at 11:08 pm
If I were to build a “perpetual monument” today in England, I’d go to the other side of the crossroad parking lot at Stonehenge. And build two more Henges.
The first, a copy of the original of course, but as complete as we know it. Accurate to the stars and moons as they are today, 3000 years after the first circles and stones. Build it of stainless steel perhaps, or, more iconically, of poured concrete with stainless steel reinforcements and pins. Do not duplicate the original stones, but make them the same size but squarely cut and perfectly edged – build them as the shapes the orignal rock would have been if the original were not made of hand-hewn boulders with wooden mallets.
So, we would be telling the next 90,000 years: We know and respect what was done here 3000 years ago, and this is when we built the second stone henge, and how we built the second henge to honor the original. This is how we think it was used, and this how we make “stone” today.
But the third henge is to show the future witnesses that we are thinking of them: Build it next to the second, but align it to show the stars and sun 3000 years in the future. Like the “Modern” henge, build the Third Henge as complete as we know, with all posts and columns and lintels and circles complete and full.
Build that third henge of cut marble and granite foundations and granite walkways, (the hardest stone we know of) but make the new monoliths and posts from the original quarries, cut exactly to shape as they were from the original quarries. Anchor the third henge in rock and stone as best we can so it can last without falling, and so it will become the future, when all else built today has fallen.

Annie
September 7, 2013 9:00 am

I’m so glad you are enjoying your visit Willis. I love Salisbury Cathedral…it is such a light and airy place. Did you notice the amazing altar frontals there? And the glass by Lawrence Whistler? And so on and so on…too much to take in on one visit. What always stuns me is the consideration that the cathedral was built in only 52 years. Nowadays, with computers and modern cranes, we produce hideous square glass, concrete and metal monstrosities!
Stonehenge is amazing in a completely different way.
BTW, Salisbury is a city, not just a town!

SandyInLimousin
September 7, 2013 9:28 am

Willis,
You seem to be a bit of an island person let me recommend Orkney.
If you like neolithic and such like remains Orkney is particularly well endowed. Maeshowe, Stenness and the Ring of Brodgar, Skara Brae (pre-dates the pyramids in Egypt, Broch of Gurness and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Then there is the shortest scheduled airline flight between Westray and Papa Westray all 1.7 imperial miles. I can’t remember i you’re into diving but there is some interesting stuff in Scapa Flow.

September 7, 2013 9:29 am

Annie says:
September 7, 2013 at 9:00 am
BTW, Salisbury is a city, not just a town!
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Indeed. However small the place, if you have a cathedral, it is a city. Wells is the smallest English city – and has yet another beautiful cathedral. Indeed, Willis, you could do a cathedral tour of the UK – Ely Cathedral is a fine sight as it hoves into view above the fens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ely_Cathedral
Ely Cathedral (in full, The Cathedral Church of the Holy and Undivided Trinity of Ely) is the principal church of the Diocese of Ely, in Cambridgeshire, England, and is the seat of the Bishop of Ely and a suffragan bishop, the Bishop of Huntingdon. It is known locally as “the ship of the Fens”, because of its prominent shape that towers above the surrounding flat and watery landscape

David Ball
September 7, 2013 11:11 am

Bath is definitely worth seeing. The technology the Romans implemented is impressive.
Stonehenge seems to be a “hippie magnet”. Works quite well, especially during solstices.

Scottish Sceptic
September 7, 2013 11:19 am

steveta_uk: “The origin of the word henge seems to be that it is what “Stonehenge” is – a henge of stone.”
The origin of Henge is most likely derived from an Anglo-Saxon root from which we also get “hanging” and “hinge. The exact meaning is unclear but the essential ingredient would be the lintels.
As for their origin:
About 5000 years ago the kingdom which included the land we know as Wales and the Kingdom of the land to the East fort a long war. Tired of the war, the two kings agreed to meet to agree a truce at the 2nd full moon after the summer solstice.
First the easterly king arrived … and waited, and waited and after a few days the moon had clearly turned and it was clear the other king was not coming. Insulted by the lack of attendance of the other king, the Easterly king sent his warriors to invade the kingdom of the west and the war resumed.
After a few more years of bloodshed, the two kings eventually met to agree a truce and it emerged that both kings had wished to attend … but because the full moon had been very close to the solstice, one group of “scientists” had said that moon had turned before the solstice and the other had said it was after … so they were both willing to meet … but that year their calendar had been 28 days out of sync.
Well the kings duly sacrificed their chief scientists and promoted an underling and said: “now build me a way to precisely predict the solstice”. Not willing to be held accountable in the same way the scientists stalled for time and said: “such a prediction would require a supercomputer the like of which has never been seen before”. But the kings were not daunted and both agreed to build this massive supercomputer.
Eventually … the scientists worked out that it was easier just to meet about the solstice and agree the date than to measure it in the fog and cloud of the English countryside … but like certain other scientists we know they continued to fake their results – exaggerate their ability to predict anything, whilst simultaneously asking for more and more resources to build bigger and bigger computers.
And of course, the only people who “knew” how to use Stonehenge to do anything was the scientists.