Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
I woke up this morning in London to a gentle rain, and was reminded of a comment by Mark Twain. When Twain was living in the UK, a couple of his friends from the US were out to his house to tea. A week later, he writes to someone else:
“We furnished them a bright day and comfortable weather—and they used it all up, in their extravagant American way. Since then we have sat by coal fires, evenings.”
So, hoping I hadn’t used up all the good weather, in a light rain we packed and stowed and jumped on the tube to Heathrow, where we rented a car and drove west to Salisbury.
And as always, there were surprises. The first surprise was how quickly the city was replaced by lovely green countryside. And not only countryside, but farms, large farms, growing wheat from the looks of it. I’d expected miles and miles of suburbs, but that didn’t happen at all.
(Click to enlarge) The second surprise was that the rain went away, and although the day was cloudy, it was lovely.
The very best part of the day, however, was being taken on a tour of both Stonehenge and Avebury by Tim Daw. It was great to finally meet Tim. Back in 2007, a couple of years before I started writing for WUWT, Tim was gracious enough to post an article of mine about the Central England Temperature (CET) record. At present, that blog is inactive, but he is still running his family farm … and in addition, he also works at Stonehenge, and is an amateur archaeologist himself. So there could not have been a better guide.
So we all jumped into Tim’s car and he drove us from Salisbury to Stonehenge. I knew nothing about Stonehenge … and as it turns out … nobody does. Oh, that’s not quite accurate, we know that they made urns with collars around them, and that they built long barrows for their dead, not round barrows. We know that the blue stones came from Wales, and that the sarsen stones came from about twenty miles north of Stonehenge. We know that in the Middle Ages people thought Merlin built Stonehenge.
Other than that, however, I fear we know very little more than the people from the Middle Ages about who built Stonehenge, or why. But despite that lack of knowledge, or perhaps in part because of that, the place has an awesome and remote majesty that captures nearly everyone’s imagination. Here’s what it looked like today when we were there:
From there, we went to Avebury, which I’m told is another “henge”. My obviously over-valued estimate of my own knowledge of the oddities of the English language has taken a thrashing on this trip. I’ve found out a few things about British place names I never knew. One was that a “minster”, as in “Westminster”, means a big church. Next, a “stoke”, as in Greystoke, is a stockade. I found out that a “staple” or “stable” in a place-name means a market, and that “Bury”, as in Salisbury where I am now, means a fortified town. I learned that “sarsen” is a corruption of “Saracen”. My new bible on these matters is here.
I also now know that a “henge” is a circular earthen wall with a ditch inside it.
Now, all over the planet people dig circular earthen walls with ditches. Why? Well, for defense, of course. It’s a great plan. The attackers are all down in the ditch, and you stand up on top and shoot at them with whatever armament you might have. So, what’s wrong with this picture?
Well … the henges on Salisbury plain all have the ditches on the inside, not the outside. They would be totally useless for defense. So the obvious question arises … why were they built?
Bad news in that regard. Nobody knows. After asking Tim question after question about any and all aspects of the builders’ lives, I decided I could just record him saying “Sadly, no one knows”, and dispense with him altogether—I could just ask the question, and then play the recording. Not that he is ignorant on these matters, quite the contrary. It’s just that regarding why the henges were built … no one knows. Regarding the beliefs or origins of those who built them … no one knows. How did they move the stones? See the previous answer …
So with my ignorance doubly confirmed, and then reconfirmed, we left Stonehenge, and Tim took us onwards to Avebury. This is another famous nearby henge. It is much larger, encircling the entire village of Avebury. And the henge is much bigger as well, perhaps a thousand feet (300m) across, with a much higher wall and a much deeper ditch.
Again, like Stonehenge, Avebury is imbued with a sense of profound mystery—what is the purpose of the wall and the ditch? But this time the mystery is bizarrely juxtaposed with everyday life:
After we walked all the way around the circular earthen mound and came back down to the inside of the henge, the only thing I noticed was the sense of privacy, enclosure, and comfort that the surrounding earthen wall provided. Was that why they built the hedges? Mentally, I press the button on the tape recorder and hear Tim’s voice saying “No one knows …”.
From there, it was a lovely afternoon drive back to Salisbury. The clouds had built up. There were a few thunderstorms in the distance, and beneath a couple of them was “virga”, falling rain that evaporates before hitting the ground. The earth’s climate control system was back in operation, keeping the English countryside from overheating.
Back in Salisbury, we thanked Tim for his kindness. He was the very best of guides, knowledgeable and patient with rank novices like myself … a point of view for me to ponder on, indeed.
Then we walked into Salisbury town to see the Cathedral … and I’m here to tell you that it’s not any ordinary pile of stones. I’ve seem piles of stones in the form of cathedrals before … but this is a double-dyed, no holds barred cathedral.
We didn’t have much time to go in, it was late and just before closing, but it was open. The Salisbury Cathedral was built in the 13th century, and has been used continuously ever since. One of the four copies of the Magna Carta is kept there, but because of the late hour we didn’t see it. However, a service was going on, and the girl’s choir was singing when we entered the Cathedral. It was the perfect accompaniment to the structure, lovely voices echoing around the massive vaulted interior:
Even in the Cathedral, however, my karma seems to be following me, no surprise there. In this case, I seem to have English clocks on the agenda. Here’s the clock from the Cathedral:
And a closeup of the gear train:
So what’s unique about this clock? Well, other than the bizarre nature of the gears, there’s nothing unique … other than the fact that it’s rumored to be the world’s oldest working clock, and it’s been running since 1386. It’s so old it never had hands to tell the time, just a bell that it rang when it was time for prayers. How curious, that the desire of humans to pray on a regular basis should set in train the long chain of clockish events that end up with John Harrison’s chronometer …
Anyhow, that’s all the news that’s fit to print from Salisbury. Tomorrow, we’re off to Bath. My thanks to all of the folks who have provided commentary, suggestions, and most importantly, offers of assistance. They are much appreciated even though they are not individually acknowledged. And my particular thanks to Tim for a most enjoyable and educational afternoon.
Regards to all,
w.
PS—On the way back from Avebury, Tim stopped in the village next to his to show us a version of the British Library that he was involved in setting up. It looks like this:
It’s a “Take One, Leave One” library, and despite plenty of nay-sayers, it has worked well both there and in Tim’s village. It seems that when Post and Telecom were taking out the phone booths, they offered to sell them to the villages for one pound. So in his village, Tim and some others said sure, we’ll take it, it’ll make a great library.
But of course, this being the UK, nothing goes so simply. The day before they were to take possession of it, some drunken yobbo hit the phone booth with his car and knocked it at an angle. Didn’t damage it much, just bent it over some.
“That’s no problem”, sez Tim and his mates, “we’ll take it anyhow.”
“Oh, no, no,”, say the P&T folks, “can’t do that. It’s all super-dangerous now, someone might get hurt, we can’t sell it to you”.
So Tim and the villagers say, “So what if it’s dangerous? I mean, we’ll just put a chain ’round it and tip it back to vertical.”
“Ooooh, you can’t do that!”, sez the P&T, “It’s not your property, it belongs to the UK Government”.
Hard to fault that logic …
So then the P&T sent out a big truck and a big crane, along with one man to work on the job, two men to direct him, three men to lean on shovels and explain things to the villagers, and an Obersturmbannführer to run the whole show. They stood the phone booth back up at great government expense, and said “OK, now it’s not a dangerous phone booth any more, so we can turn it over to you”. So Tim and the folks thanked them, and put in the books.
And to complete the story … the P&T never did come around to collect their pound. Government work at its finest, find someone doing something imaginative and useful, and get in their way. What strange animals we are indeed …









RomanM says:
September 6, 2013 at 5:07 pm
Well, rats! That would indeed have been fun. Sorry to have missed you.
w.
philincalifornia says:
September 6, 2013 at 4:56 pm
He did mention that, Phil. The crop circles are to me the perfect metaphor for the position we find ourselves in with the climate. People hate to be made fools of more than anything. So even after the two guys who started the crop circle craze confessed, and showed people exactly how they’d done it, people STILL would not believe that they had been conned.
Doesn’t bode well for the future of the climate debate, I’ll tell you that …
w.
We know that, the Romans, marching past Stonehenge shuddered – seeing them, the Stones were ancient and invoked a vague but tangible fear, great civilization though ‘Rome’ undoubtedly was – for they themselves were steeped in superstition and ignorance.
As Tim will have told you.
We are pretty short of real facts concerning the standing stones, at best some are educated guesses.
Writer’s poetic license……………..and some other help from myriad sources.
The most important date for ancient people’s, was the winter solstice, fathoming and comprehending the solar calendar, needed a grand monument dedicated thus. The shortest day was a feast day. A day of celebration, to welcome the new year, the new season and the Sun tarrying a little longer – each day until the summer solstice zenith.
Longer days, meant farmers could plan for and plant the summer crop and that was all about the stones, naturally they were also intertwined, doubled as sacred sites where surely solemn ritual was observed. In all, the science of prediction, the Sun and the celebration and worship of the dead.
4.500± years ago [maybe 3000bc], man had gotten pretty sophisticated, more so than they’re ever given credit for, these men traded all over the known world.
If only, these ancient peoples, they could have better pooled, then refined and related their gleaned expertise in; carving, sculpting, weaving, pottery, boat building, ore extraction, metallurgy, astronomy, science, horticulture and agricultural knowledge, sophisticated but not quite there. Though, we dismiss them and that’s down to modern mankind’s arrogance, we should not think of these guys – coloured with our overwhelming and ingrained bias – it is mankind’s biggest failing to dismiss his forbears.
England, a treasure trove of mystery and delight, the weather’s
crapinfelicitous but the history is rich. I am lucky enough, to live near Eboracum, you should try and see it and stop off in [some other favourites of mine]; Kent, Hampshire, Dorsetshire, Cornwall/ Devon, Berkshire, Hertfordshire, Warwickshire, Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Shropshire, Leicestershire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Lancashire on the way.Brings back memories of my visit. I did manage to get to see Stone Henge but spent the rest of my time underground (and in pubs) as a guest of a British caving club.
I would love to go back and see the historic sights now that I am a bit too arthritic to crawl around in the mud.
Hi Willis,
No body knows indeed, a close examination done many years ago showed the entire English countryside was landscaped, rivers redirected, hills moved and all the sites you visit are connected by lines called lay lines. The geometry and distances are pretty special, but as you say nobody knows who or when.
Britain’s new Stonehenges are the windmills, a brand new religious cult with Green Fascist High Priests and Priestesses praying for absolution from the imaginary Sky Dragon whilst the banks, hedge [henge?] funds and some big energy companies like the disgusting Shell Corporation prey on the poor with carbon taxes, compulsory donations to the new State Religion.
And then we have the equally disgusting hangers-on like the Climate Alchemists busily altering past data and the bureaucrats in local and national government using the Sky Dragon to become our new Brown Shirts, any excuse to oppress the people as this replacement for Nazism takes wings.
In the absence of any actual facts I suppose that would leave……climate change.
So you did not try to improve on JMW Turner by taking a photo of the Cathedral from a distance?
I could imagine putting ditches on the inside of the henges if they were used to keep something in, rather than out. Perhaps they were dragon enclosures.
Thank you, Willis! You brought back memories of my own stint in the UK (1993-5), when I lived in Exeter, Devon and did environmental consulting with a wool-spinning plant inside Dartmoor National Park.
My chappie Robert (local fellow) once took me on a trip & showed me neolithic monuments as old as Stonehenge, but largely unknown to all but locals. Stonehenge itself was not very impressive, as it was surrounded by an immense chain-link fence to keep the hippies, Druid wanna-bes etc. at distance.
I hope you will have the chance to travel through the hills and hedgerows of Devon, which is essentially the largest, oldest continuous garden in the world. Cheers, Charles
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/46541000/jpg/_46541730_hedgerow_466.jpg
Willis,
Awesome pictures, thanks!
v/r,
Dave Riser
Willis Eschenbach
Well … the hedges on Salisbury plain all have the ditches on the inside, not the outside.
Internal trenches; Keeping the congregants from exiting to learn about the outside. So the inner trenches were more likely than not to keep people in, rather than invader people/ideas out. Think of a prison. Think of an overwhelming belief system. Think of Climate Change prophecy.
D Johnson says:
September 6, 2013 at 6:39 pm
I could imagine putting ditches on the inside of the henges if they were used to keep something in, rather than out. Perhaps they were dragon enclosures.
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It doesn’t make much sense.
Although it might afford the only cover, and the defenders have the yardages calculated to rain down their weapons on the opposing force ?
Inner ditch is reverse slope defense. Pretty standard. Another advantage of inner ditch is collection of runoff. Keeps inner area dry..
Great read Willis! I sent the link to my friend from WA state who is visiting the UK soon. He used to live there long ago.
I really enjoy all your writings.
Stonehenge Decoded, by Gerald Hawkins, has a good history of what is known, what is legend, what is guessed, and how they might have used the holes and posts as a perpetual calender for eclipses of the moon and sun.
Surprisingly, he doesn’t list the stones themselves as important to the calender of eclipses as the wood posts and holes inside the larger stones. (Then again, the large stones in the Pyramids were “for king and country” and just for looks too.” ) In that book, Hawkins sets the first construction about 1900 BC (maybe a bit later), about 1200 years after the plain was first settled. This would place it about 1000 years after the first pyramids, but a little before Troy fell to the Bronze Age Greeks. Stonehenge I was a circular ditch-and-bank system, open to the northeast, with the heelstone about 100 feet outside the circle to the northeast in line to the sunrise at midsummer. The inner bank of this first circle was large: about 320 feet in dia. . The first Aubrey holes (56) came in about this period as well, but they have been dug and refilled several times since 1900 BC.
Stonehenge II built the “avenue” pointing to the northeast heel stone, and the first circle of bluestones, but Hawkins indicates the twin blue stone circles were not finished to the southwest. Stonehenge IIIA was done by the Wessex people, who took down the bluestone circles, then erected 84 sarsen stones. (New archetect, eh? New king who didn’t like the old king? New queen who didn’t like the old designer?) About 1650 BC.
Stonehenge IIIB re-erected the blue stones, this time in their present oval. About 1600 BC it was finished. .
Great picture of the cathedral …. now I know what the architecture of the Balrog scene in the first Lord of the Rings movie is based upon. Peter Jackman almost exactly replicated the Avebury design. Beautiful.
Willis: Read this when I was a senior in High School http://www.amazon.com/Stonehenge-Decoded-Gerald-S-Hawkins/dp/0880291478 …..still the best.
You have to realize that knowning when spring was coming, and not planting TOO EARLY and losing everything to a frost, was enough to give you Druid Priest status. Even, likewise on the “winter end” (knowing when to start getting read…and not being fooled by an “Indian summer” so to speak. The key here is that the “heel stone” has Tilted with time, and when corrected to “upright” the point on the heelstone is framed by a couple of the pilars..and precisely at the spring equinox, the sun rises right over the point of the heelstone. BINGO, the real first day of spring. As your comments on the man who made the first useable chronometers, and a generic comment on Issac Newton, there are a strange number of “eccentrics” in Jolly Old England, who are…also, quite the genius! I guess we don’t have to explain to you the significance of the TIME BALL and TIMES SQUARE in New York, do we?
Willis, great to hear more about your travels.
Coincidentally, just this morning I was watching a NOVA program on some recent archaeology digs around Stonehenge. Indeed, we know very little about those people or those times. It is also interesting, however, how much has been learned just in the last few years. A decade or two ago there was kind of a popular impression that we knew everything that we ever would (little as it may have been). Since then there has been an explosion of new information revealed from archaeology.
As I tell my kids: Don’t ever think that the book has been completely written on a particular topic. In so many areas we are just beginning to scratch the surface. Exciting times of discovery yet await the inquiring mind . . .
If you are going to Scotland, I suggest you see some brochs. Brochs are stone structures that are about 2500 years old and they are unique to Scotland. My favorites are the two at Glenelg which are a stone’s throw from one another.
To imagine the architecture of a broch, take one egg, stand it on the broad end, and cut it horizontally in the middle. Take the top part and make another horizontal cut at the top and remove the top. Now get another egg that is 30% larger than the first, repeat the process, place the larger egg shell over the smaller, add walkways between the two shells at intervals of six feet to create three storage areas stacked vertically. The entrance is protected by huge stones and requires people to get on hands and knees and crawl into the structure.
Truly ingenious engineering and architecture. The most useful structure built with unshaped flat stones that I have seen. A marvel, really.
These buildings are so useful for defense, storage, and housing that it is obvious why they were built. There is some knowledge about the peoples who built them. But there is no knowledge as to the individuals who commanded that they be erected or who chose the locations.
Ahh, Avebury, my favourite ancient temple.
Willis – here is some henge trivia for you.
if you ever forget what latitude Avebury is on, get a calculator and key “360 divided by 7”. The answer is 51.428571. Now pop that figure into Google Map (with Satellite) as a latitude – along with the longitude of -1.854167 and see where that puts the green arrow. (Google Maps allows you to just put in just the coordinates – nothing else.)
In cartographic terms, Avebury lies precisely on the latitude that is 1/7th of the Earth’s circumference – to the nearest two feet. Interesting, huh? Now how did that happen??
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>>They would be totally useless for defense. So the obvious
>>question arises … why were they built?
>>Bad news in that regard. Nobody knows.
Not quite true, Willis. Some of us still know – the knowledge WAS retained by a few.
But if I told you, you would not believe it, which is why the design has remained secret for so long.
(And yes, you are right, they were not built for defence, they were temples.)
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Hi Willis, welcome to my birthplace – sounds like you are having a great time! A lot OT, but I’ve been meaning to ask you about the polarity of water. Water, being a polar molecule, can be attracted or repelled by an electric charge (remember the old school experiment with a charged plastic rod deflecting a stream of water from a bucket?). Anyway, this being the case, and there being (a) a darned lot of water on earth, and (b) a heck of a lot of electric charge in the atmosphere due to various factors, what effect might these electrical charges have on say water levels, water flows, tides, etc? I haven’t seen many comments on this, despite being an avid reader of WUWT and other excellent skeptical blogs.
kind regards,
Willis,
Thanks for that really interesting perspective. My final trip to the UK begins on September 17 and I dread it. Each time I return to my homeland I am depressed to find that this once great nation continues to sink lower and lower.
Your writings will help me to maintain a more positive attitude no matter what.
The picture shows a nice day with fair weather cumulus over picturesque countryside. Cloudy?
More like soaring pilot heaven.