The one year anniversary of the Dr. Peter Gleick theft of Heartland documents under false pretenses is coming up on Valentines day, Feb 14th.
I’ve been given the word today via email that there will be some documents released from Heartland that day, and they won’t be stolen ones.
Many people contributed to help Heartland, and Heartland is planning on putting all the cards on the table now. They write:
On Thursday, February 14, 2013, The Heartland Institute is releasing a 57-page report produced by its legal counsel, Jones Day, presented to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Illinois in support of criminal prosecution in the matter.
On February 14, 2012 – one year ago – Fakegate began. Like Climategate, it was a scandal revealing the dishonesty and desperation of those who claim man-made global warming (alias “climate change”) is a crisis. Fakegate involved criminal activity, repeated lying, and outright theft by a high-ranking scientist in the global warming movement. How the mainstream media covered the incident spoke volumes about how liberal bias pervades media today.
Details here.
Step by step. Good. Pace this out, while the AGW community continues to embrace the lyisng pos. .
trafamadore,
If Bob Tisdale’s comment didn’t show you to be a complete friggin’ idiot, your comment above proves it. You never gave one single example of “disinformation” by Heartland. ALL the disinformation was done by Gleick. This is just more psychological projection from a somewhat stupid member of the alarmist cult. And a teacher to boot; God help your propagandized students.
trafamadore, is there a reason you feel it appropriate to repeat Gleick’s libels?
D.B. Stealey says: “you to be a complete friggin’ idiot”
Ha Ha. Good one. Let’s see, second hand smoke doesnt hurt anyone and a GW conference each year with hand picked pseudo scientists. It’s that enuf? Your sense of outrage is actually outrageously funny.
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He must teach, what I think is called, “situational ethics”. The more familiar term is, “The end justifies the means”. (Gleick’s specialty.)
@trafamadore: You wrote: Really? Heartland’s noble purpose, without exception, has always been to push disinformation for industrial benefit and, of course, industrial funding.
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Please inform us. What disinformation? Show the disinformation and prove it.
“What is the basis of the US Attorneys decision to not prosecute?”
Oh Come On – Friends of Obama don’t get prosecuted. Just ask John Corzine. Or Robert Menendez. Compared to those guys, Gleik’s offenses don’t even count as chicken feed.
Just like everything else “justice” in this country is now completely politicized. Thank you, Eric Holder.
@trafamadore: The Tralfamadorians are a fictional alien race… I did not realize that at least you are self described to be as such. You seem to be in good company of fictional scientists and perhaps you are too self absorbed to realize what deep down inside you know about yourself.
I only wish the self deprecating beings that you are and whom you associate will some day soon realize the harm of you create by existing in a fantasy world… a world of abundance gone down the tubes. Your ilk makes me all the more anxious to right your wrongs.
When you’re old and close to recounting your life, I hope it is you who realizes that your life was spent making the world a less good place thrive.
Trafamadore, you cant even spell Gleick’s name correctly, repeatedly. This and failing to read the Heartland’s press release correctly urge me to ask you; maybe you should finish your education first before commenting here?
@mods: I wrote my post in haste and the grammar was horrible. I have corrected it here. I apologize!
@trafamadore: The Tralfamadorians are a fictional alien race… I did not realize that at least you are self described to be as such. You seem to be in the good company of fictional scientists and perhaps you are too self absorbed to realize what deep down inside you know about yourself.
I only wish the self deprecating being that you are and beings whom you associate with will some day soon realize the harm you create by existing in a fantasy world… a world of abundance gone down the tubes. Your ilk makes me all the more anxious to right your wrongs.
When you’re old and close to recounting your life, I hope it is you who realizes that your life was spent making the world a less good place for life to thrive.
Bernd Felsche says:
February 11, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Maybe I don’t understand how the Rule of Law is supposed to operate in the USA.
Gleick has admitted that he committed wire fraud in pretending to be a member of the board of THI in order to obtain “super secret” documents.
There is evidence of a crime. A person who admits to having committed the crime. But no prosecution?
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Three Words…. Liberal Control Agenda
CAGW is a part of that agenda. the means to get there doesn’t matter and people Like Obama, Jarrett, and others in this admin are criminals who will protect their own.. Remember this is the CHICAGO Federal Attorneys office… Thus CHICAGO thug politics is the norm.. Just like Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Gun Running in Yemen, among other illegal acts by this administration which have been swept under the rug…
There is a lot of stuff under that rug along with people Obama and company has destroyed under the bus..
trafamadore says: February 11, 2013 at 8:42 pm ” …. Let’s see, second hand smoke doesn’t hurt anyone … ”
For the benefit of those of us who fell off a turnip truck after just being born yesterday, please provide the time, place, and full text of any individual associated with the skeptic side who ever made such a statement. Please, take your time, we will wait……….
The release of the file will have some very positive results.. It will show the inept abilities of the US Attorneys office. It will show deliberate indifference by the Obama Administration and the corrupt nature of this Administration. (like we needed more evidence of this). Excerpts will show that the EPA and its regulations are built on falsified data.
Having this in the public domain is not a bad thing… Now getting the main stream media to report on it is another issue..
Oh Dear.
The Thing which calls itself ‘Dr. Peter Gleick’ … is … still alive ?
How absolutely terrible. The Thing should have never been born.
Russell Cook (@questionAGW) says: “For the benefit of those of us who fell off a turnip truck after just being born yesterday, please provide the time, place, and full text of any individual associated with the skeptic side who ever made such a statement. Please, take your time, we will wait……….”
As in the classroom, I ask, can someone pls help Mr. Cook?
James Sexton wrote on February 11, 2013 at 6:32 pm, “Aww, that’s a shame! [Gleick] just launched a new blog column!! Well, maybe they’ll let him keep his ‘puter privileges.”
It’s moderated, of course, so that he can prune out snarky comments like mine:
I believe their claim is that the dangers of second-hand smoke have been overstated, and those of casual second-hand smoke (not by family members of smokers) have been considerably overstated.
Hopefully, with the rise of e-cigarettes, this debate will become moot.
” Like Climategate, it was a scandal revealing the dishonesty and desperation of those who claim man-made global warming (alias “climate change”) is a crisis. ”
A stunning level of hypocricy by Heartland in that sentence. Stealing mails from CRU was fine, just don’t steal anything from us. Getting access to drafts to the IPCC report under false pretenses to publish them was apparently also fine.
trafamadore says:
February 11, 2013 at 8:42 pm
… and a GW conference each year with hand picked pseudo scientists.
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Are you aware that Dr. Gleik was invited to speak at one of those Heartland conferences and turned it down? Just before he lied to ’em about his identity to get unauthorized access to their documents. Nice guy!
Bernd Felsche says:
February 11, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Maybe I don’t understand how the Rule of Law is supposed to operate in the USA.
Gleick has admitted that he committed wire fraud in pretending to be a member of the board of THI in order to obtain “super secret” documents.
There is evidence of a crime. A person who admits to having committed the crime. But no prosecution?
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Prosecution depends on many factors. Availability of police, prosecution and court time will set prorities. Burglary and car theft may not get police response let alone prosecution. Weapons crime, violence and narcotics crimes may be prosecuted first. Poor or good evidence that can be set aside in court will stall a case. A stolen and forged policy paper with no tangible damages would not likely be prosecuted. If Gleick had verbally assaulted his wife and wounded her self-esteem he might be in jail now.
And yes, political correctness and influence are likely at play but would never be admitted.
“Thomas says:
February 11, 2013 at 11:58 pm
” Like Climategate, it was a scandal revealing the dishonesty and desperation of those who claim man-made global warming (alias “climate change”) is a crisis. ”
A stunning level of hypocricy by Heartland in that sentence. Stealing mails from CRU was fine, just don’t steal anything from us. Getting access to drafts to the IPCC report under false pretenses to publish them was apparently also fine.”
Don’t let the facts get in the way of your prejudice! Firstly, and although not proven the CRU emails appear to have been hacked by an insider who apparently wanted the world to see the dishonesty of the warmist claims. Secondly, the IPPC report was leaked by at least one individual who had legitimate access to the report. In neither case has anyone from the skeptic side of the argument sort to introduce promulgate falsified and dishonest material.
Opps! the last sentence should read:
In neither case has anyone from the skeptic side of the argument sort to promulgate falsified and dishonest material.
trafamadore, You mentions Pseudo scientists? You mean like the ones who still believe that the global climate models are correct and it is the planet that is wrong? Those asshats you mean?
God help your students if the grammar and spelling in your posts is typical of your educational standards, let alone your obvious inability to argue any case with actual facts or evidence, your lack of the capability to apply logic and your complete lack of scientific understanding that “if the observation does not match the theory, then the theory is wrong” science 101.
The earth has NOT warmed whilst CO2 has climbed for almost 2 decades now.
Your alarmist “peer reviewed, consensus scientists” are being proven more and more wrong by the actual observation of what is actually happening, as each month passes. And that is what you SHOULD be teaching your students.
Thomas says:
February 11, 2013 at 11:58 pm
The Climategate e-mails weren’t stolen.
A Valentines Day massacre, Chicago style. I’ve ordered the popcorn. 🙂
SteveT