First look: 'Hit on the head with a hockey stick' – some selected emails from the recent NOAA FOIA release 2 years later

Readers may recall this yesterday: NOAA releases tranche of FOIA documents – 2 years later. I have a few to share from CEI now.

Here’s one email, right after Climategate1, that is uproariously funny, given NRO’s response to Dr. Michael Mann today.

Heh. Here’s that email thread plus others as PDF files.

NOAA emails reax to ClimateGate

How IPCC sausage is made in 2007:

IPCC_Sausage_factory

The Team is unhappy with Andrew Revkins post CG1 questions on IPCC, one refuses to look at his blog anymore.

Alarmists not happy with Revkin for noting IPCC probs

Let’s meet with the President-elect.

See comments about the role science must play to help BHO to get cap and trade passed. That’s the old left, viewing science for its use in service of the state. All this amid fretting that people will be distracted by things such as the economic collapse actually going on around them.

Susan Solomon emails regarding Science in Service of the Cause

Revkin asks about why can’t we share temperature data post CG1.

NOAA on Temperature Data Sharing issues

We need an independent and transparent study, but let’s not question the IPCC, ‘kay?

Don’t_Tug_on_IPCC’s_Cape

Trenberth see’s Ben Santer’s paper published in Science as having “substantial problems”, due to spurious artifacts introduced by radiosonde equipment changes over time making the ERA-15 data “corrupted” in Trenberth’s words. Two words sum the problem up: temporal inhomogeneity.

But, why wouldn’t he send this to Science?  Instead he just sends around to (I presume) a few trusted members (pals) of the team?  Oh, right, “the cause” and all that.

Trenberth_just_not_that_into_Santer_et_al

 

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David Ross
August 22, 2012 6:10 pm

In proper science, if “eminent physicists” or “great…intellect[s]” publicly dispute your scientific claims
1. it is an honour
2. you respond publicly
3. a polite scientific debate ensues
In “post-normal” climate science, you:
1. do not answer their arguments
2. pretend they don’t exist
3. claim that only “climatologists” are qualified to speak on climate
4. declare that 97% of climatologists speak in unison
5. declare the science to be settled
6. brand anyone who disagrees with you a “denier”
7. accuse them of being funded by oil-companies
8. question their motives
9. question their sanity
In public, that is. Whisperings within the climate science cabal are different.

I expect you’re aware that part of our problem is all the eminent physicists, like Freeman Dyson, who appear to be under the (understandable!) illusion that the IPCC consensus is based entirely on dodgy climate models. It seems that even so great an intellect as Dyson might be ignorant of what Archer explains so clearly and quickly.
Michael McIntyre
Centre for Atmospheric Science, Cambridge, U.K.
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/noaa-emails-reax-to-cg-1.pdf
page 11

Freeman Dyson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeman_Dyson
Freeman Dyson on Global Warming 1of2 Bogus Climate Models

Freeman Dyson: Heretical Thoughts About Science and Society
Hosted by Pardee Center for the Study of the Longer-Range Future on November 1, 2005.

More videos where Dyson responds to critics of his stance on global warming.
http://bigthink.com/devils-advocate/freeman-dyson-climate-change-predictions-are-absurd

Theo Goodwin
August 22, 2012 6:25 pm

Pat Frank says:
August 22, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Outstanding post! Thanks much for your excellent work.

Crispin in Waterloo
August 22, 2012 6:25 pm

Re Mr Mann
“The bulk of his career will be forgotten and he will be thought a life-long fool.”
I still have hope for Mr Mann to repent. Everyone is capable of it. Were he to do so, we should be ready with respectful acceptance. He can blow this whole thing open probably like no other individual on Earth. There are many who are beyond hope, or seem to be but Michael can still transform the mindless waste that has befallen (particularly) the Western world as the CAGW hype bites deeper and deeper into the bank accounts of the increasingly impoverished and deprived. What drives such a conversion no one can say, but self-realisation and an enlightened understanding of consequences is a powerful agent.
More surprising things have happened. For example, who would have thought that any small clique could impose such an extraordinary financial loss on billions of people around the planet with such a small number of erroneous guesses and downstream cover-ups! No one would have bet on their being able to pull it off. Too many voices of reason would speak up, right? Too much broad understanding in the science community to succeed with such a box of vaporous fluff. Well, this CAGW thing is once-and-for-all proof that scientists and academics are corruptible. Lots and lots and lots of them.
But never completely rule out personal transformation.

David Ross
August 22, 2012 6:27 pm

Hypocrisy squared
John M wrote:

All communications on this issue are being coordinated with White House. Therefore, no communications to Hill or Press should go out without DOC coordinating with WH.

“What was all that whining about censorship of climate scientists during the Bush Administration?”
Wow, that may be the most significant revelation within this latest release of emails.
Hansen’s complaint that his rants had to be cleared by NASA management was the moment the global warming media machine went into high gear -funded by George Soros.
For the Soros funding see my comment here.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/24/fighting-the-mann/

courtdom12
August 22, 2012 6:34 pm

Sorry, this kept playing in my head when I read the last two blog entries as viewed through the eyes of their attorneys…… LOL !

David Ross
August 22, 2012 6:39 pm

cui bono wrote:
“Give up on the jolly hockey sticks, guys. Try another sport – like tossing the caber. That would make Mann the prize tosser in the Team.”
Mann method
1. carefully select caber
2. avoid any with a “latewood density” “divergence problem”
3. attempt to toss caber
4. when your caber fails to soar, hide the decline

OssQss
August 22, 2012 7:14 pm

My grandmother always told me >> “If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said”.
I agree and still follow that rule of thumb today, successfully!
Some folks, so obviously, don’t!

Theo Goodwin
August 22, 2012 7:29 pm

Crispin in Waterloo says:
August 22, 2012 at 6:25 pm
“Well, this CAGW thing is once-and-for-all proof that scientists and academics are corruptible. Lots and lots and lots of them.”
From a slightly different angle, it is a demonstration that when the science is not mature and the government steps on the funding accelerator then the result is corruption on a huge scale. Some very serious dissertations need to be written on this point.

August 22, 2012 7:30 pm

If you see zebras in these emails that’s because you don’t give any legitimate credit to anyone who disagrees with what you want to believe. Pretty sad seeing this stuff as any sort of evidence against climate science when in fact it shows an honest belief in their work. There is nothing to see here…

eyesonu
August 22, 2012 7:34 pm

Pat Frank says:
August 22, 2012 at 5:21 pm
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Thank you.

Eli Rabett
August 22, 2012 7:34 pm

You folks are really reaching.

August 22, 2012 7:54 pm

I’m enjoying ^the bunny’s^ delusion and desperation. ☺

Jeff D
August 22, 2012 8:03 pm

drew says:
August 22, 2012 at 7:30 pm
If you see zebras in these emails that’s because you don’t give any legitimate credit to anyone who disagrees with what you want to believe. Pretty sad seeing this stuff as any sort of evidence against climate science when in fact it shows an honest belief in their work. There is nothing to see here…
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Read a bit more. What is sad is that some of them have guzzled the Kool-aid of a handful trying to stage this farce. So in a way I think you are correct and thousands have been misled by a few. Apparently you as well.
The core “Team” have known what they were doing for a very long time.

Greg Cavanagh
August 22, 2012 8:06 pm

The report threads read like a bunch of cannibals arguing over who they’ll eat last.
A very interesting read indeed.

eyesonu
August 22, 2012 8:10 pm

Eli Rabett says:
August 22, 2012 at 7:34 pm
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We are really reading.
“Finally released” batch of emails. You should check it out. It’s a great way to get to know people.

August 22, 2012 8:15 pm

dp says:
August 22, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Mann reminds me of the Wright Brothers. They wasted their lives and life energy suing everyone..
===========================================================================The Wright brothers are universally known as the inventors of the airplane, I have a degree in aeronautics, which included studying the history aviation, and I never heard that they sued anybody, if Mann is like the Wright brothers he will go down as one of the most important people in history. I doubt that will happen.

Maus
August 22, 2012 8:20 pm

drew: ” Pretty sad seeing this stuff as any sort of evidence against climate science when in fact it shows an honest belief in their work.”
And Hitler had an apparently sincere belief that the Jews were destructive of German Society. Whether he was correct or not has nothing at all to do with whether he believed he was correct or not. And no, there is no “But no, I don’t want to Godwin this..” clause attached.
One can simply go through the emails to find a plethora of insular echo chamber dehumanizations of the out-group. From the ClimageGate reax pdf we have ‘deniers’, ‘professional disinformers’ and an ‘unprecedented attack’ that needs to be counteracted by ‘talking points’, being ‘less concerned about defending the science than defending the integrity of our scientists’, that no communication should be had without being passed by the political minders (”… no communications … should go out without DOC coordinating with WH’), ‘formulating a communications strategy and talking points’, that address ‘legistlative outreach’, signing statments to ‘demonstrate the force of numbers who agree’, that ‘consensus is based on something far greater than any individual’, and other issues of appearance. Especially the notion that Freeman Dyson and other physicists are simply daft when they object to the physics in the models of climate science.
Do these notion support the idea that the folks involved are True Believers? Absolutely and in just the same manner as Uncle Adolf they’re ready to resort to any propagandic twist to sell you on the narrative that they are fighting the good fight against the Evil Jew. Or, in this case, our two-minutes hate is Skeptihassen.
It’s all fine and dandy that they’ve taken such a stance of religious fundamentalism to their weltanschauung as to their own correctness. But that’s not at all anything to do with science. Perhaps a Freudian issue in which dreams of smokestacks are actually phalluses and represent their repressed desire to have sex with someone that drives a Cadillac, an SUV, or owns an air-conditioned home. But self-flagellating Skepithassen and carbon internment camps to deflect from their guilty energy dreams has not one thing to do with the complete and total lack of empirically valid results in this wannabe field of science.
For that they’re left only dividing things into Climate Science and Jew Science. Beg pardon, I mean Denier Science.

David Ball
August 22, 2012 8:51 pm

Anthony Watts says:
August 22, 2012 at 8:10 pm
“I’m sure Joshua Halpern won’t be so amused when we put his emails on display”
Cannot wait !!! Wipe the smug off his mug. Two choices, he is deluded or he is deceptive. We all get what we deserve in the end. In his heart, he knows this.

TomC
August 22, 2012 8:58 pm

The thing I always notice about these released emails is their incessant clamoring about Kerry, Gore, and the Democrats in general – they’re always upset, lamenting electoral losses by Democrat politicians. Is there any question which political party these so-called climate scientists kowtow to? It also proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that their entire global warming theory is nothing more than a political means to reach their Utopian ends.

davidmhoffer
August 22, 2012 8:59 pm

drew;
Pretty sad seeing this stuff as any sort of evidence against climate science when in fact it shows an honest belief in their work. >>>
Eli Rabett (aka Joshua Halpern who insists on referring to himself in the 3rd person as if he was royalty);
You folks are really reaching.>>>>>>
Really? We have Solomon p*ssing all over the paleo researchers (Jones, Mann, Briffa), we have Trenberth p*ssing all over Santer, and we have a “disaster for the climate community”.
So what happened to the consensus? Turns out there isn’t one? What happened to the science is settled? Turns out it isn’t? Why is climategate a disaster? Do you suppose it was a disaster because nothing wrong was found in the emails?
And all those question arise from just TWO emails in this batch. Just TWO.
drew I suppose is anonymous so he can afford to look the fool in defense of the indefensible. Eli Rabett aka Joshua Halpern though out to think twice about publicly doing the same.

dp
August 22, 2012 9:15 pm

TomT – the brothers were credited with inventing control surfaces. In the defense of that patent everyone in the industry made money selling airplanes but them. Their lawsuits included foreign nationals and Glenn Curtiss. It sapped them and cost them valuable business relationships. Wilbur spent his last two years of life in the defense of patents. By 1917 the patent had expired, Wilbur was dead, and Oroville had sold the company in 1915, and took his last flight in 1918. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_brothers#Patent_war
Glenn Curtiss went on to invent (figuratively speaking) the aviation industry.
Your post is a good example of what they are wrongly remembered for. The airplane, and powered aircraft preexisted the Wright flier but none had three-axis controls that were effective. Their aircraft designs were deemed unsafe by the military. Patent concerns doomed them to maintaining faulty components of their design while others went on to innovative designs.
Mann is on that same path.

u.k.(us)
August 22, 2012 9:20 pm

Greg Cavanagh says:
August 22, 2012 at 8:06 pm
The report threads read like a bunch of cannibals arguing over who they’ll eat last.
A very interesting read indeed.
————————————-
Cast your aspersions, they only strengthen the resolve.
Interesting how ?

Crispin in Waterloo
August 22, 2012 9:21 pm

@Theo Goodwin
>>“Well, this CAGW thing is once-and-for-all proof that scientists and academics are corruptible. Lots and lots and lots of them.”
>From a slightly different angle, it is a demonstration that when the science is not mature and the government steps on the funding accelerator then the result is corruption on a huge scale. Some very serious dissertations need to be written on this point.
I work with a social anthropologist who spent 4 years studying the Amerindians in Motto Grosso, Brazil. He compiled a 3-foot high stack of field notes on how they do things and why, what they believe about everything from dreams to who is in those satellites orbiting overhead. He helped bring them out of the stone age in a single generation.
All that is nothing compared with the analyses that will be done on the tribe that took science back a generation. There is so much still to be released. It is inconceivable that the “WH” was not coordinating with “Buck” across the pond on the same points. Clearly a decisions was made long before that there was to be a full scale scare story to create a ‘new economy’ with new energy sources that would be technologically dominated by the developed West who could afford to waste that much money. It is a sort of cold war spending idea that brought the USSR to its knees – they couldn’t compete. Climate fraud in service of geopolitics, yes? And all of NATO bought into this hare-brained scheme? Is this their plan to economically defeat China and India – with electric SUV’s?
Too bad about that crooked Wall Street banker thing – ok… things. Doesn’t look so affordable now. From what has pitched up already, this is Climategate III: let the lawsuits begin. Buy your popcorn at the kiosk out front (this is America). Buy two or more and you get a Carbon Tax ‘Eli Rebate’ coupon.

David Ross
August 22, 2012 9:38 pm

Eli Rabett wrote:
“You folks are really reaching.”
Anthony Watts wrote:
“I’m sure Joshua Halpern won’t be so amused when we put his emails on display”
Yeah, but I’m sure we will 🙂
For those who may not know. Eli Rabett is the troll pseudonym that Howard University Chemistry Professor Joshua Halpern hides behind.
As mentioned in this (interesting) article.
http://thebreakthrough.org/archive/climate_mccarthyism_part_i_joe