Perhaps responding to some of the concerns published yesterday on WUWT about how Steve McIntyre was treated by David Karoly, or perhaps reacting to his reactionary stance at a recent wind farm event, the Australian Book Review has apparently pulled climate scientist David Karoly’s book review of Michael Mann’s Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars from its webpage.
You get a 404 now for the link that was active in our story yesterday:
Here’s the Google cache version:
It does not appear to be a site error, as other nearby reviews are intact. And, the 404 error is very specific to article #1063, rather than a generic 404 error.
No explanation was given that I could find, just “poof”, it was gone. Maybe somebody there at ABR actually has some integrity and has pulled it until Karoly rewrites it, or maybe they just decided they didn’t like the negative attention Michael Mann brings.
Either way, a good move on ABR’s part.
h/t to reader Bob Koss
UPDATE: Steve McIntyre writes on Climate Audit:
I wrote a letter of complaint to Karoly with a copy to the Dean of Research. I’m busy on a submission to the Information Tribunal in the UK right now but will provide more particulars on this in the near future.
That might be the reason the review was pulled.
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I heard that the adulation embarrassed Michael Mann so much he insisted the review be deleted.
Color me purple
Smart move ABR. As the original review sure looked like libel; and I doubt any publisher wants a case of libel. Especially since there appears to be definitive web proof that the reviewer knew he was defaming.
One does wonder if the K guy put up a review that was ghost written for him, by some less than salubrious bootlicker of the ‘team’.
(again, there is that desire for a bottomcase font for describing the bottom dwellers.) /sarc
Yes it has been pulled. The review was crap anyway, just as the Manns book is.
I have read Manns book as well (waste of ten bucks). Just rubbish is all it is .Karoly says “vested interests” Really now, he is the one with vested interests. This is called flipping; the warmists do it all the time. He is really talking about his own vested interests. The tax on carbon is a scam.
Karoly says Mann was pushed out of academia? You probably couldn’t drive him our of government-funded, protected and secure lifetime employment with a hockey stick.
a lot of strange things happen when Mann, Karoly, and Gergis et al are around….
Maybe ABR discovered they want to have standards after all….
“Confusionists” now? I am no longer a “Denier,” I am a “Confusionist?” Drops one label to grab another. It’s not about the label, Davey Boy, it’s about being labelled…
It probably was intentionally taken down, but the 404 page is simply a generic/dynamically generated page. You can demonstrate that by changing the “1063” to “2063” in the URL and the 404 will say article “2063” is not found.
The title is still listed on the contents page but it has vanished otherwise. It probably proved to be too hot a topic for the site. It seems a very low key web site with a decent reputation that was being knackered by Karoly’s bad behavior.
Starting at the ABR home page, their Search function returns the review, but it 404’s.
It also finds it listed on the ” Current Contents” page for the July-August 2012 edition, No. 343:
https://www.australianbookreview.com.au/whats-new/current-contents
Is it really gone, or will it be there if you purchase either print or online editions?
Oh, why is ABR on a secure server anyway, even the home page? With all the “generous sponsors and supporters around Australia” found at the bottom of the pages, including much government support, why so much for the online edition? Here they want AUS$6 just for the current issue! (How much of that is the new carbon tax that they’re not allowed to tell you how much of the price is that tax?)
I hope this is a demonstration of some integrity. There must be more and more people in positions to do the right thing wondering WTF when they come across blatant untruths. I suppose time will tell in this instance.
I hope Davey got a screenshot of it for his “I Love Me” wall before it was yanked — he doesn’t strike me as being bright enough to do a cache-crawl.
His papers get pulled, his book reviews get pulled.
Pull the other one Mr Karoly.
“Hide the decline”….
Academic life used to be easy before the internet. Now everyone can see how “intelligent” some of them really are.
commentator “sHx” at Bishop Hill recommends Karoly for the “Zebra of the Week” award
ah, life and adventures on the Serengeti…..
I suggest a “Carrion of the Week” award since it wasn’t much of a hunt for the lions on this one….
Steve McIntyre stated in his post below at CA that he has sent a letter of complaint to Karoly with a copy to the Dean of Research
http://climateaudit.org/2012/06/08/gergis-et-al-put-on-hold/#comment-342434
That could also be a possible reason for the pulling of the review.
In the review:
“The illegal hacking of emails from a mail server for the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in late 2007….”
This inaccuracy would have made me not approve it’s publish until corrected. Why? Because it still has not been released to the public how the emails got out. No one has officially said they were hacked. No one has officially said it was done illegally. It is the tool of a biased, weak mind to assert either, or both, at this point.
Kadaka asks:
If you paste the IP of the server into your browser you will get to the root web server (it is an OS running in a logical container on a physical machine, and that OS is running a virtual web server which may be hosting multiple web sites). It is quite likely a managed site and ABR doesn’t make many technical decisions.
Visit http://117.55.235.110/ where 117.55.235.110 is the IP returned by running a DNS lookup on the site domain.
“The illegal hacking of emails from a mail server for the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in late 2007….”
Also, it really wasn’t in 2007, but in 2009.
Amino Acids in Meteorites says:
July 11, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Also, it really wasn’t in 2007, but in 2009.
And yet another “commentator with no scientific expertise” finds a Karoly flub…
oh. it’ll be back…they just need a little ‘adjustment’ before restoring it. The MSM are the lackeys of the greens of this world
“Amino Acids in Meteorites says:
July 11, 2012 at 11:13 pm
“The illegal hacking of emails from a mail server for the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in late 2007….”
Also, it really wasn’t in 2007, but in 2009.”
But surely – in climate science accuracy in things like numbers is up for debate? So I suspect that the consensus is now that not only was it illegal but that it took place in 2007.
Anyone who says otherwise is a denier.
The last paragraph:
“Mann finishes the book on a similarly positive note, suggesting that he senses a turning of the tide in the Climate Wars. I am not so sure that this is the case in Australia. With the introduction of legislation setting a price on greenhouse gas emissions from human activities, the Climate Wars have heated up here, with coordinated misinformation campaigns from politicians, from media commentators such as Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt, and from geologists with vested interests such as Ian Plimer and Bob Carter. I hope that steady misrepresentation loses and that science wins the Climate Wars quickly, as further delays in actions to reduce greenhouse gas emissions lock in even more global warming.”
I can pretty much guarantee you that “turning of the tide in the Climate Wars” is definitely happening, but not the way you and your ilk may “sense.” I am an uneducated but very skilled worker in North Queensland, one of those you would label as unqualified to comment. I can, however, read, it’s amazing how many of us can, outside of your hallowed academic halls. And what I have read since the Copenhagen fiasco, the RELEASE of the climategate emails, combined with the hostage situation in our government, (Greens holding Labor hostage for tenuous, tortuous, fingernail holding minority power in our Lower House,) leaves me with a decidedly sick feeling in my stomache.
As far as I can see, you and your kind are hell bent on destroying the scientific principle to further your own careers, and be damned with the truth if it gets in the way of the swilling. I used to respect “scientists” when I was growing up… Since this underbelly has been exposed, every time I hear the words “Scientists say,” I automatically put my BS meter on full alert.
Mr Karoly, you are without doubt, the stupidest academic I have ever had the displeasure of reading. I hope Plimer and Carter sue your sorry arse off, you sanctimonious, public trough swilling, utter PRATT!
JohnnyinNQ
“a good move on ABR’s part”
I dunno. I think the fact the Karoly publicly claimed that Steve McIntyre has no scientific expertise *after* acknowledging McIntyre’s investigation forced the retraction of his paper should stay up there for all to see. That goes for all the other strange and wonderful glowing reviews of Mann’s book I think the MannLove derangement syndrome on offer is something to preserve for future generations 😉