Gosh. Who knew that a massive tax could solve all imagined climate problems?
David L. Hagen writes:
The UN is demanding control over $1.6 trillion per year to control climate. See Section 47 in draft # FCCC/AWGLCA/2011/CRP.39 9 December 2011 #GE.11-71576 at: http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2011/awglca14/eng/crp39.pdf
47. The provision of the amount of funds to be made available annually to developing country Parties, which shall be equivalent to the budget that developed countries spend on defence, security, and warfare. Fifty per cent of that amount shall be for adaptation, 20 per cent for mitigation, 15 per cent for technology development and transfer and 15 per cent for forest-related actions in developing country Parties;
See Reuters: Worldwide military spending edged up in 2010 to a record $1.6 trillion, a leading think-tank said on Monday. Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute’s military expenditure database. http://www.sipri.org/research/armaments/milex/research/armaments/milex/milex_database . . .
Until then, the immediate urgent task is to provide alternative fuels while caring for the poor.Conventional climate mitigation comes in dead last in benefit/cost.”
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.
tallbloke says: December 10, 2011 at 9:12 am: The EU has wasted over 1/4 billion Euro on propping up the european carbon market already. That cash could have rebuilt all coal fired generating plant with filters and reduced co2 emissions 30%.
Half that would have paid all of Portugal’s debt, IMF loans almost all included.
One of the problems that the U.N. has is that it is too far removed from the majority of the countries that make up its membership. I propose that the industrialized countries remedy that by “inviting” the developed nations to contribute to a fund to move the U.N headquarters and the headquarters of those U.N. organizations that are in Switzerland and Paris to Mogadishu. I, for one, would encourage president Obama and Senate Majority leader Reid to direct that 50% of the U.S’s U.N. contribution be restricted to this fund.
Gee a year ago, they would have been happy with holding the temp rise to 2 C. With the climagegate 1 and 2, the dropping sea levels instead of accelerating ones, with Lower Troposphere cooling and no statistical warming since 1995….now they are really teed off. You-all wouldn’t agree to 2C so now we are going to make it 1C allowable and you are being fined 1.6T a year… so there! Hansen’s science now says that 1C is too high (you should have listened and aquiesced last year) and we will be facing many metres sea level rise (H wants to submerge that stubborn Hudson R. parkway under half a dozen metres of water by 2050. Gee, I guess we better sign up before they come out with the big guns.
Green madness strikes again.
How destroy one of the most powerful economic engines in Canada. Spend $ Billions on useless Wind and Solar, don’t plan on how to hook them up to the grid. Drive up the cost of electricity to the point that Industry, businesses and the public can’t afford it. The net result is unemployment and uncompetitiveness on top of a world financial melt down. Thank god for the oil, gas and raw resource sectors or Canada would be bankrupt thanks mainly to the Green socialist policy’s of Ontario and Quebec.
Ontario. Canada – Auditor General blasts Green Energy cost
Ontario Auditor General blasts McGuinty’s Liberal Governments Green Energy Act
WINDSOR, Ont. — The province’s Auditor General has heavily criticized the McGuinty government’s Green Energy Act, saying government subsidies will cost consumers $220 million on their hydro bills and 75 per cent of the jobs created will be short term.
“No comprehensive evaluation was done on the impact of the billion-dollar commitment to renewable energy on such things as future electricity prices, net job creation or losses across the province, and greenhouse gas emissions,” auditor general Jim McCarter in his report released Monday at Queen’s Park.
Read more:
http://www.windsorstar.com/business/Ontario+Auditor+General+blasts+McGuinty+Green+Energy/5813967/story.html#ixzz1gA6X1UgL
As the Durban talks near an end and delegates scramble to reach some agreement, here’s a list of some of the key things under negotiation:
1. Adaptation Fund (Money)
2. Clean Development Mechanism (Money)
3. Green Climate Fund (Money)
4. MRV: Measure, report and verify (Money)
5. MRV for developing nations (Money)
6. Technology Transfer (Money)
7. REDD (Money)
When Europeans arrived in America they had shovels, axes, seeds, plows, some draft animals and a willingness to work hard for what they wanted.
In less than 300 years their descendants (the Americans) had landed a man on the Moon, created the Internet and improved their standard of living through hard work and by using the abundant natural resources, including inexpensive energy.
The countries demanding money have shovels, axes, seeds, plows, some draft animals and …. the ability to ask for a free ride.
The people in North America had to work hard for More than 200 years to get to where they are today, and some people in some countries just want it all right away without the long hard work, and they think they can Guilt us in to giving it to them. Good luck with that.
Cheapest cure for global warming would be to disband the IPCC and spend $10 million, one time, in an ad campaign explaining that the IPCC never was scientific and that AGW was a scam.
As global warming has already taken care of itself by cooling naturally, we’re done.
I love the idea that the money should equal all money spent in security, military, and warfare. You see they think their edict that everybody cease all forms of aggression, now, will free up all of those monies.
Where do the UN clowns live? Same planet? Planet Zanax?
I like the bit where it says “A low carbon society.” That equates to ‘death and non-developement’ Back to the caves!
Dr Burns says:
December 10, 2011 at 10:49 am
They seem to have forgotten their 50% administration fee.
———————————
Kick in another 30% to cover attorney fees.
Josualdo says:
December 10, 2011 at 11:39 am
“tallbloke says: December 10, 2011 at 9:12 am: The EU has wasted over 1/4 billion Euro on propping up the european carbon market already. That cash could have rebuilt all coal fired generating plant with filters and reduced co2 emissions 30%.
Half that would have paid all of Portugal’s debt, IMF loans almost all included.”
Josualdo, Portugal had an extremely green energy policy (as encouraged by Brussels/Berlin)… so part of the 1/4 bn EUR wasted ARE Portoguese debt now!
I tried to post a link more than an hour ago to this Guardian article: “Durban climate change talks: false text diverts race to reach deal.” Rather than posting the link – http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/10/durban-climate-talks-false-text – WUWT apparently prefers to perpetuate the hoax.
[REPLY: Try looking a little harder. Your first post got through just fine. Gonna apologize now? -REP]
Why can’t the Maldives get the money they need the same way we do, borrow it from China?
The interesting thing about Durban is who didn’t go. World leaders stayed away in droves and sent minor functionaries instead. The conference was dominated by … impractical people … and little effort seems to have been made to reign them in. The result appears to be a document so far off the planet that the world leaders (who didn’t go remember) will have absolutely no trouble dissociating themselves from it and rejecting it. One might almost think it was deliberate.
crosspatch says:
December 10, 2011 at 10:25 am
It would be “$Brazillion”; that’s why he thinks South America has so much money.
It is the biggest rip-off attempt in history You have to ask what the military spending of a sovereign nation has to do with their claim to someone else’s money and why is anything owed for nothing? Perhaps the attempt is to coerce the developed countries into becoming defenseless to escape the economy crushing fine they hope to impose.
The most-strange part of the money grab is the crumbling scientific theory and predictions being used to justify the plan of these UN grifters.
I’ve been following the tweets. We are at a pretty dangerous stage. The delegates are so tired and so ready to get out of town that they will likely sign anything. That means that whatever goes in that final document will not likely be read carefully.
Look for something being slipped into that document that hasn’t been discussed.
bladeshearer
I extracted from and linked to the documented posted by the UNFCC at:
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2011/awglca14/eng/crp39.pdf
I also warned about the fake document.
If you can find a posted copy of the fake, please link to it and highlight the differences.
There’s a two word response for this, but the inappropriate language would get me banned.
Really, only $1,600,000,000,000.00 ?
I have that much in my Global Warming BS Swear Jar, help yourself
Number 1: Dr Evil do you expect them to pay that sort of money?
Dr. Evil: No Number 1, I expect them to Die!! Mwaahahahaha!
$1.6 trillion? We could settle the entire Solar System for a tenth of that. Just saying…
Downdraft says:
Climate control is not the issue: Equal poverty for all the the goal.
—
Yes, except it will be equal poverty for all but the elite with sticky fingers who get to redistribute the cash. They expect to live in luxury in the farmhouse while everyone else is freezing and starving out in the barn. In fact, many of them are hoping that most of us starve to death so they can inherit the earth as their own private green preserve. Let’s not forget who these people really are:
“If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
— Prince Phillip, World Wildlife Fund
“Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental.”
— Dave Forman (founder of Earth First!)
AR5 ZOD
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TF234DCZ
What financial institutions are behind this scheme?
“What financial institutions are behind this scheme?”
The UN *IS* a financial scheme!
DirkH says: December 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm:
Josualdo says: December 10, 2011 at 11:39 am:
“tallbloke says: December 10, 2011 at 9:12 am: The EU has wasted over 1/4 billion Euro on propping up the european carbon market already. That cash could have rebuilt all coal fired generating plant with filters and reduced co2 emissions 30%.
Half that would have paid all of Portugal’s debt, IMF loans almost all included.”
Josualdo, Portugal had an extremely green energy policy (as encouraged by Brussels/Berlin)… so part of the 1/4 bn EUR wasted ARE Portoguese debt now!
I’m regrettably pretty much aware of that… Machiavellian, isn’t it? And now we’ll have to keep subsidizing the renewables energy production from our personal pockets — the new Economy Minister clearly meant to stop the subsidies (he wrote about that more than once as a “must be”), but it seems the contracts are absolutely cast in steel, like so many other ruinous ones (public-private initiatives for instance). In a single year, we were done for the next 30.