John Droz writes in with this:
A few months ago a widely-publicized article by Houston and Dean was published in the Journal of Coastal Research (and on your site), noting that although sea-level is rising; the tide gauge data does not show any increased rate of rise (acceleration) for the 20th and early 21st centuries. This was augmented by a recent paper authored by an Australian scientist as well (<<http://www.jcronline.org/doi/full/10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-10-00141.1>>).
In the most recent volume of the Journal of Coastal Research, there is a point/counterpoint on this study. It was started by an attack on this paper by Rahmstorf & Vermeer and followed by a response to this by Houston & Dean (below).
Discussion of: Houston, J.R. and Dean, R.G., 2011. Sea-Level Acceleration Based on U.S. Tide Gauges and Extensions of Previous Global-Gauge Analyses. Journal of Coastal Research, 27(3), 409–417
Stefan Rahmstorf† and Martin Vermeer‡ <<http://www.jcronline.org/doi/full/10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-11-00082.1>>
Here’s the rebuttal:
Reply to: Rahmstorf, S. and Vermeer, M., 2011. Discussion of: Houston, J.R. and Dean, R.G., 2011. Sea-Level Acceleration Based on U.S. Tide Gauges and Extensions of Previous Global-Gauge Analyses. Journal of Coastal Research, 27(3), 409–417
J. R. Houston† and R. G. Dean‡ <<http://www.jcronline.org/doi/full/10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-11A-00008.1>>
Rahmstorf and Vermeer (RV) argue that modeling sea level as a function of temperature using their semi-empirical approach as presented by Rahmstorf (2007) and Vermeer and Rahmstorf (2009) is superior to the standard approach of analyzing sea-level rise as a function of time used by Houston and Dean (2011). Their criticism applies not only to this paper, but also to the work of eminent sea-level experts such as Douglas, Holgate, Woodworth, and others who have used the same standard approach we use. In making this claim, RV present their Figure 1 as the key evidence supporting the efficacy of their model. Figure 1 purports to show good agreement between accelerations based on their modeling and accelerations based on the data of Church and White (2006). However, it is easily seen that the portion of Figure 1 where the agreement is “good” compares their modeling versus increasingly meaningless data, and they have been selective in showing only data that appear to match their modeling and not the data that strongly disagree.
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Houston and Dean (2011) considered only tide-gauge records with lengths greater than 60 years, noting that shorter record lengths are “corrupted” by decadal fluctuations. Douglas (1992) shows that as a result of decadal fluctuations, as record lengths become increasingly shorter than approximately 50–60 years, about half of tide-gauge records display increasingly large positive accelerations, while the other half displays increasingly large negative accelerations. These positive and negative accelerations are uncorrelated to accelerations based on record lengths greater than approximately 50–60 years. Note in Figure 1 that as the record length becomes shorter, the 2-sigma range becomes increasingly large so that for most of the right-hand side of Figure 1 it is not possible to know whether the accelerations are positive or negative, making comparisons increasingly meaningless.
In Figure 1, RV show only the data that agree with their model. On the x axis of Figure 1, record lengths are shorter than 60 years for starting years after around 1940. It happens that at around 1940 the acceleration shown is approximately zero. Thus, as seen in Figure 2, the record from 1940 to 2001 has a strong linear trend with decadal fluctuations but approximately no acceleration. If the record from 1940 to 2001 has zero acceleration, how is it then possible that all shorter records (starting years after 1940) shown in Figure 1 have positive accelerations that increase as record lengths shorten? It is not possible. Again, RV only plot the data as long as they agree with their model. If the plot is extended, e.g., to the starting year of 1985, the acceleration is −0.044 mm/y2, more than twice the range shown for negative accelerations in Figure 1. If the plot is extended further, the folly of analyzing records shorter than approximately 60 years becomes increasingly obvious. The acceleration for a starting year of 1995 is −0.51 mm/y2, about 25 times the range shown for negative accelerations in Figure 1. RV compare their model to data as long as there are positive accelerations and do not continue the plot when accelerations become negative, which must happen for the overall record from 1940 to 2001 to have an acceleration of approximately zero. Their rationale for stopping at a starting time of 1970 is that after 1970 “… short-term noise dominates the calculations and results oscillate strongly” (p. 789). But Douglas (1992) shows, e.g., that 30–40-year record lengths (starting times 1960 and 1970 in Figure 1) show positive and negative accelerations 10–20 times larger than accelerations determined from 80-year records. Yet RV criticize our analysis of 80-year records from 1930 to 2010 as being too short. The fact is that decadal fluctuations begin to dominate records shorter than about 60 years, and accelerations become increasingly meaningless for starting years in Figure 1 greater than about 1940. Moreover, positive accelerations peak some time after the starting time of 1970 and eventually plunge to very large negative values. In summary, RV compare their model results to meaningless data after the starting year of about 1940 and are selective in only showing data with positive accelerations after 1940.
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Church et al. (2004) correctly analyze the same data set (their own) that RV incorrectly analyze and conclude that “Decadal variability in sea level is observed but to date there is no detectable secular increase in the rate of sea level rise over the period 1950–2000” (p. 2624). This conclusion is evident from Figure 2 and in stark contrast to the claims of RV and the acceleration they show in Figure 1 for a starting year of 1950.
RV link sea-level rise with temperature using a simple linear relationship with two free variables of opposite signs that allow them to “fit” any smooth data set. However, they are curve fitting, not modeling physics, so the approach cannot be used to predict future sea level. Holgate et al. (2007) criticized RV’s assumption of a linear relationship between global mean surface temperature and the rate of global mean sea-level change and concluded, “We find no such linear relationship” (p. 1866b). Further they concluded, “… at the 50- to 100-year time scale, the linear relationship has little skill in predicting the observations not included in the original model formulation” (p. 1866b). A recent workshop of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2010) considered the semi-empirical approaches of Rahmstorf (2007), Vermeer and Rahmstorf (2009), and others and concluded, “No physically-based information is contained in such models …” (p. 2) and “The physical basis for the large estimates from these semi-empirical models is therefore currently lacking” (p. 2).
RV also present less fundamental criticisms of Houston and Dean (2010). For example, they note that data considered by Houston and Dean are biased to the northern hemisphere. This criticism would apply to any study of sea-level rise and is attributable to the lack of historical tide-gauge data in the southern hemisphere. In fact, it applies to the historical temperature that RV use in their analysis. However, we note that Watson (2011) published an analysis of sea level in Australia and obtained small decelerations very similar to those of our study.
RV argue that impoundment by dams decreased the rate of sea-level rise after around 1960. They say that our paper claims that groundwater mining would offset this impoundment, and they then argue that this mining is relatively small. They neglect to mention that groundwater mining is only one of the offsetting factors given in Houston and Dean. Houston and Dean (2011) state, “However, in the IPCC, Bindoff et al. (2007) note that the reservoir impoundment is largely offset by other anthropogenic activities that accelerated since 1930, such as groundwater extraction, shrinkage of large lakes, wetland loss, and deforestation” (p. 415). Houston and Dean further state that “Huntington (2008) showed ranges of the contribution of each term of the land–water interchange determined in several studies and concluded that the net effect of all the contributions was to increase the sea-level trend” (p. 415). This conclusion is in direct opposition to the claim of RV that impoundment by dams significantly decreased the rate of sea-level rise.
The important conclusion of our study is not that the data sets we analyze display small sea-level decelerations, but that accelerations, whether negative or positive (we reference studies that found small positive accelerations), are quite small. To reach the multimeter levels projected for 2100 by RV requires large positive accelerations that are one to two orders of magnitude greater than those yet observed in sea-level data.
This article by Anthony Watts should serve as a template for all of us. This article describes the existence of an anti-CAGW camp within the IPCC. There are others in the IPCC and outside the IPCC. Everyone who can find a little time might enjoy writing about one of those other anti-CAGW camps. Then the articles could be posted here as they are completed. Each of them could be posted under a repeating headline along the lines of “The AGW consensus is a myth.”
The anti-CAGW camp described in this article is being challenged by pro-CAGW people whose science is altogether bogus and whose claims of “empiricism” are laughable. However, because it is taking place within the IPCC, one expects that the bogus science will win. This must be watched very carefully and used as gold standard evidence of the corruption of science by the IPCC.
stan says:
“After ‘worse than we thought’ turned out to have a statistical methodology that was worse than we imagined possible, why does Rahmstorf have any credibility left as a scientist? Is making up pretend numbers the gold standard for climate science?”
Yes.
Verbatim quote from the Harry_read_me file leaked during Climategate:
“Here, the expected 1990 – 2003 period is missing so the correlations aren’t so hot!
Yet the WMO codes and station names /locations are identical (or close).
What the hell is supposed to happen here?
Oh, yeah – there is no ‘supposed’, I can make it up. So I have.”
Thirteen years of fabricated data, passed off as the real thing.
Oh dear, RV have stepped out of their safe world of climatology and models and met the world of real science and engineers who look at real data.
The problem with the RV work is these assume a linear relationship, than take a rediculous prediction of future temperatures and get a simarly rediculous prediction of future sea level – no mass balance checks, no physical basis, all built on an assumed relationshop (which doesnt hold over longer periods than they consider).
RV’s niche world of climatology is founded on such studies, but to those in other fields – where good hard science is done or were your crossing into the realms of engineering – this level of study is not tolerated, work must be based on hard solid data and the only models tolerated are those founded in known laws and well tested!
and what of sedimentation into the world’s ocean basins ? … the Amazon alone dumps billions of tonnes of sediment into the ocean every year … further, deforestation is generating increased rates of erosion … given a large chunk of Earth’s rocks are oceanic sedimentary in origin, its clearly an important natural process that must make a measurable contribution to sea level rise over time …
DirkH says:
July 21, 2011 at 7:07 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Joachim_Schellnhuber
“Since 1992, he has been one of nine members of the German Advisory Council on Global Change. He was appointed Commander of the British Empire (CBE) by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II in 2004”
http://www.pnas.org/content/105/6/1783.full
From 2002 to 2005, Schellnhuber was allocated from PIK to serve as the research director at the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at Norwich. Via Oxford’s Tyndall Centre, he became affiliated with the Oxford University Physics Department and the Environmental Change Institute. “I soon became acquainted with Sir David King, who is the U.K. chief scientist,” Schellnhuber says, “and he asked me for advice. I also prepared a conference for Tony Blair for the 2005 G8 summit in Gleneagles.”
Ahem.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Schellnhuber. Seems like a smart guy. Yet, arrogant as he is “‘I’m not interested in giving advice to secretaries of state; I would only do it for the federal chancellor!’ And I got my way.” even he cannot provide much “Schellnhuber and his colleagues chose to consider “policy-relevant” tipping elements, providing examples where the researchers suggest that human activity is causing the change and something can be done about it; the change will occur on a timescale that humans understand, such as a century; and people care about the system because it is economically or biologically important. ” with regard to evidence of CAGW.
I bet the pay is great.
There has been a lot of confusion around sea level data. Houston / Dean have finally discussed the different views and put into context. It is now obvious, why Moerner critisised that sea level discussion has been led by modellers and sea level experts have been shut out.
And I am absolutely ashamed about the “contributions” from Germany.
Meh. Houston and Dean are looking at only US stations, limiting their analysis to 1930 or so (which shows a minima in the acceleration) even though there’s data back to the 1880’s. Looking at all the data gives results completely opposite to H&D.
Their results just aren’t statistically convincing (http://tamino.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/so-what/). Not a very good paper…
It’s also notable that Houston and Dean have some serious conflicts of interest (http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/07/is-sea-level-rise-accelerating/comment-page-1/#comment-210444), in that they have been arguing that Florida and NC beachs are not at risk, on behalf of the American Shore and Beach Preservation Association and the Florida Shore and Beach Preservation Association. It’s worth being wary of people in such advocacy positions.
The tide does seem to be turning. Scepticism levels are rising as evidenced by this article on sea level from The Australian.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/sea-level-rises-are-slowing-tidal-gauge-records-show/story-e6frg6nf-1226099350056
No wonder the Greens are trying to censor the Australian print media.
KR says:
July 21, 2011 at 3:25 pm
” It’s worth being wary of people in such advocacy positions.”
I presume you also extend such precautionary wariness to participants in IPCC and its various NGO cohorts.
No long-term trend (only Ups and Downs) on the Japanese coast for more than 100 years:
http://www.data.kishou.go.jp/shindan/a_1/sl_trend/sl_trend.html
I went to the beach last week. It was still there, pretty much where it has been for the 50 years I’ve been visiting the beach. Why do we pay “scientists” to tell us it’s not actually there?
KR:
At least they used more than one area and they did use long tidal gauge records.
Compare this to Kemp etal, which used one area of NC, two different sets of proxies, splicing of records. And also, they didn’t investigate the validity of said proxies……And yet, somehow that paper shows something.
The Ramstorf paper used cherry picking on a short time scale to try and prove a point that under close analysis is not proved with their paper. Ramstorf was called junk by the IPCC…and rightfully so.
KR:
You won’t have to feel bad by agreeing with me. There are lots of junk papers out there. Just happens the last few by proponents of AGW have really been junky.
By adhering to scientific rigor and analysis in ones thought process, one has to get rid of contention of bias in ones thoughts, look at the validity of evidence presented, and go from there.
Dave Wendt – Only if you look askance at folks from the George Marshal Institute, the CATO Institute, and the like 🙂
Doug in Seattle says:
July 21, 2011 at 6:12 am
“Rahmstorf is making sure his material is out (and presumably peer/pal reviewed) for the next IPCC report.”
Very true Doug but we are all aware of what happened previously, by the likes of Wahl and Amman, in 2005 and are watching closely for the shenanigans to begin!
KR:
So, you agree that folks funded by grants etc have a confirmation bias because of their funding source?
To William McQuiddy
I can’t find the McClenneyPart_1.pdf file on the ICECAP site.
The link doesn’t work, and their search feature doesn’t find it.
Ignore that, Searching for McClenney finds the source of hte threads.
KR says:
July 21, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Dave Wendt – Only if you look askance at folks from the George Marshal Institute, the CATO Institute, and the like 🙂
Why should your logical consistency depend on me? You’re either consistent or you’re not. As for me, I’m epistemologically a pretty hard sell. I don’t “know” much and I believe even less, but I have more faith in history than climate science and my read on history says that whatever “catastrophes” may eventuate from our future climate will amount to a spit in the ocean compared to what will redound to our detriment from the “solutions” to this possibly nonexistent problem which have already been attempted and the even more dangerous ones which still loom on all our horizons.
I use to have the same problem when I was a kid, the square peg would never fit in the round hole, then I grew up and did some learning.
Robert L says:
July 21, 2011 at 4:59 am
Aral sea has lost about 1000km³ amounting to about 3mm or about 1 years worth of current sea level rise.
The Caspian sea depression/basin is pretty interesting – if it was filled it would lower the global sea level by at least 30mm, and it is already a salty sea (about 1/3 of sea salinity)
If we were really worried about sea level rise we could pump seawater up into the middle of antartica or greenland at the rate of 30000m³/s – it would need nearly 1 TW of pumping power (costing a few hundred billion a year) but would actually work (unlike regulating CO2).
A much cheaper solution (not that I think one is needed) may be to dig a trench or lay a large pipe from the Mediterranean to the Qattara Depression in eastern Egypt. No pumping required, and evaporation would do the rest (not sure how much on a global scale, but every little helps). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qattara_Depression
From a report “Pacific Country Report Sea Level & Climate: Their Present State Tuvalu June 2003”
This project is sponsored by the Australian Agency for International Development (AusAID),
managed by Australian Marine Science and Technology Ltd (AMSAT), and supported by
NTF Australia at the Flinders University of South Australia.
Link:
http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/basch/uhnpscesu/pdfs/sam/NTC2003WS.pdf
We find the following comment on page 9 concerning on tide gauges:
“The expected width of the 95% confidence interval (±1.96 times the standard error) as
a function of data length based on the relationship for all National Oceanographic and
Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) gauges with a data record of at least 25 years are
shown in the figure below. A confidence interval or precision of 1 mm/year should be
obtainable at most stations with 50-60 years of data on average, providing there is no
acceleration in sea level change, vertical motion of the tide gauge, or abrupt shifts in
trend due to tectonic events.”
Camburn says:
July 21, 2011 at 9:56 pm
“So, you agree that folks funded by grants etc have a confirmation bias because of their funding source?”
No, you have it reversed, ‘folks’ start of with a confirmation bias and then seek funding from sources that will enable them to ‘confirm’ their bias.
The problem with Dean and Houston however is not the source of funding for this research so much as their long-term involvement with beach-front development and the confirmation bias they have that engineering solutions will be sufficient to defend beach-front property because Sea Level Rise is not accelerating at an increasing rate.
At least not the specific rise in rate of acceleration that they tested the limited data they used for….
@- Dave Wendt says:
July 22, 2011 at 12:04 am
…”I don’t “know” much and I believe even less, but I have more faith in history than climate science and my read on history says that whatever “catastrophes” may eventuate from our future climate will amount to a spit in the ocean compared to what will redound to our detriment from the “solutions” to this possibly nonexistent problem which have already been attempted and the even more dangerous ones which still loom on all our horizons.”
Empirical observation already confirm warming, the majority of the science and scientists expect this to continue because of the rise in CO2.
How much of a ‘problem’ this may be can be seen historically.
I can think of very few civilizations that did NOT find climate change a problem, sometimes a catastrophic one.
Usually it is changes in rainfall disrupting the agricultural infrastructure that feeds those urban civilizations that has caused the collapse.
History indicates that past societies did not respond well to climate change, in ANY direction. Does anything give you optimism for our present societies when faced with significant change ?