Germany's Greens get ugly with climate skeptics

Answer to Mr Doleys part 2 and final
But Mainstream Academia, Media and Bureaucracy, amid the perpetual distortion of truth that you will often find there, often call serial mass murderers “ideologues” instead of murderers: I was talking about National Socialism and about Stalin’ s
-and in a lesser degrees Lenin’ s- philosophy of mass murder and mass theft of property by a despotic state: A normal person with moral feelings instantly knows that murdering people is wrong, an is instantly horrified by such ideologies in the
same way that many of us in this forum are instantly horrified here when we see so many nazi / soviet parallels in the “greens”. A normal person has some compassion and cannot accept such cold blooded butchery, human coexistence needs
obvious moral rules and often religions assembled those rules together in their moral codes. Stalinnism may be an ideology, I do not know the exact definition of “ideology”, but statinnism pretends to “justify” what cannot be justified i.e. serial mass
murder / mass robbery / mass punishment / mass imprisonement and total control & total prohibitions over people’s lives. It is pretty clear that sadism was the main perversion driving Stalin and many other people, and that their “ideology” was a
justification for mass crime. There are Hitlers and Stalins out there, but in modern democracies they are probably in prison and not the rulers of a despotic state. Here http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/bbc.htm you can read an extract of
“The Black Book of Communism” and you can see how bolsheviks were essentially mass murderers and mass robers with a very clear depraved passion for inflicting pain and having power and control, and it is clear how they often pursued a
LAWLESS state, i.e., a DESPOTISM, and that “class warfare” was essentially another excuse for mass murder & theft.
What I said two paragraphs behind about inborn human nature shows that people are born different, and such fact implies that COLLECTIONS OF PEOPLE, i.e., populations of countries are TOO born different and that therefore peoples are
different. That is obvious: For instance in Germany you tend to have white skin while in Africa they tend to have black skin- but mainstream academia often excels in denying obvious truths. Rummel showed statistically that DEMOCRACY is
MIRACULOUS for avoiding MURDER BY GOVERNMENTS http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MIRACLE.HTM and that non democratic governments are the serial mass murderers (but democratic governments can be mass murderers when they
use the dictatorial powers that a state of war gives them). Well, we had several dictatorships in the Americas in the 20th century and none of them were as murderous as the nazi dictatorship (21 million murdered by government in nazi Germany
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM and that does no takes account of the millions deaths in combat) or the soviet dictatorship (62 million murdered) . Our murderours regimes are concentrated on NORTHERN Latin America and are
Guatemala and Mexico -1,4 million murdered, which is far from Nazi Germany but probably in those times Mexico had less population than Germany under Hitler- . The data is here http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.TAB16A.1.GIF . And I
state it again: South America and the Caribbean (and, of course, anglo NORTH America) do not have the history of bloodshed that Germany has. We are different peoples and that is obvious.
About sadism, I clearly talked about SOCIALIST politicians OFTEN being sadists, not about the non politician socialists and I clearly said that MANY politicians, not ALL of them had a penchant for sadism. A “leftist” politician that wants to increase
the exorbitant power & control & punishment power that the political class already has in Germany and in most of Europe must have some sadism for alleging for such an immoral increase in power & control & punishment power because sadism
is the want to have power and control and being able to punish people. I have discussed for years with european style socialists and the discussion overwhelmingly is about they wanting more power & control & punishment power & tax & spend
and we trying to stop their “more power” urges, their frequent obsession for power is TOO OBVIOUS to deny.

@ur momisugly Latin Girl Part II
Lipset called the US „The first new Nation“ – but are the US really a nation, a people? Many of the Doleys-family have gone to the US and have become Americans, distributing their asiatic genes on the „normal“ way – sex was established some hundreds of millions of years ago as a method to mix genes more frequently. Cultures operate contrasting: the exclude other individuals to preserve their cultural group. So the US-Chinese stick to their group, Latinas prefer Latin Lovers, Italians like Italians etc. There are genetic cross transfers, but only at the edges. Huntington asked concerned: „Who are we?“
The most interesting answer gave Max Weber, the „Marx-Killer“, in his essays „The protestant sects and the spirit of capitalism“. The protestant sects came over from Europe and made the American wilderness overtake the wealthy Argentine (Latin „Silver Land“) within 150 Years (see David Landes, Poverty and Wealth of Nations).
So the Americans are the New Europeans, having the same pool of genes, but developing them in individualistic conditions, in an individual and pluralistic cultural framework allowing free enterprise and vitalizing sharp contrasts. This is not really a nation, it is a combination of apt individuals of very different origin in a nationlike frame.
This reminds on the „Germanies“, les Allemagnes, as the French used to say, die Deutschländer, denn „Deutschland“, „Germany“ hat es nie im Singular gegeben, has never existed in a single land. Since 10.000 years all kinds of folks have crossed „Middle-Europe“, the Netherlands are kind of German as well as Austria. The early „Holy Roman German Realm“ consisted of 1789 (!) sub-realms – it was very loose and weak compared with France and England. „Germany“ actually is a late invention of nationalism in the 19th century stimulated and provoked by France and the UK. More France, which attacked the Germanies since Louis XIV., and Napoleon conquering all German lands till Moscow.
It is a great misunderstanding to construct any connection of sadism and socialism, because of the fact, that the marxist fraction exercised terror to reach their aims. Socialism and marxism are branches of christianity, see Th. Morus, Utopia / Savonarola, „De simplicitate Christianae vita” / Campanella, Civitas solis, Der Sonnenstaat. But these christian authors are influenced by the POLITEIA of Platon, the archetypus of idealism, rationalism and a sort of communism. That is a line of tradition which has some merits, it can be and should be contrasted with other ideas and it can be criticised, off course, but it should be considered as serious thinking. It is the true tragedy of thinking, that it can depart from good will and end in mass murder. Consider Robespierre. Consider Robespierre a genuine heir of Rousseau.
I see e.g. Obama in this line of caring Christians, but I personally don’t like caring very much. The same applies to the climate phantasies. Thinking often is entirely wrong. Hayek called it the PRETENSION OF KNOWLEDGE.

[snip take your arguments elsewhere, you are becoming disruptive here, and quite frankly I’m tired of it – Anthony Watts]