Weekly Climate and Energy News Roundup #157

The Week That Was: 2014-11-22 (November 22, 2014) Brought to You by SEPP (www.SEPP.org) The Science and Environmental Policy Project

THIS WEEK:

By Ken Haapala, Executive Vice President, Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP)

Science Adviser: Recently, the once obscure position of official science adviser has garnered the attention in the popular press. John Holdren, President Obama’s chief science adviser, has been active in the US National Climate Assessment, which is little more than the alarmist version of the Fifth Assessment Report (AR-5) of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Summary for Policymakers, with the global climate models adjusted for the United States. The certainty of the science expressed in the reports is not borne out by observations from nature; the climate models on which the Assessment is based have been shown to greatly overestimate 21st century temperature trends.

In a January 8, 2014 video, Holdren attributed the extreme cold the US was experiencing at the time to global warming causing changes to the circumpolar vortex, thereby bringing Arctic cold to the US. For this video, he was soundly criticized. Large variations (meanders) in the circumpolar vortex, known as atmospheric Rossby waves, were first identified by Carl-Gustaf Arvid Rossby in 1939 – long before the fear of global warming and major human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2), the purported cause of global warming. The circumpolar vortex has probably existed since the earth rotated on its axis and had an atmosphere.

The November 15 TWTW linked to reports stating that the European Commission’s Chief Scientific Adviser, Anne Glover, was forced out and her position abolished apparently in response to demands by Greenpeace. Glover, a professor of molecular biology, supported genetically modified crops. Apparently, the radical green organizations prefer corn (maize) that has not been genetically modified and requires extensive processing to be consumed by humans.

Given this latest development, it is refreshing to read the first Annual Report of the [UK] Government Chief Scientific Adviser, Professor Sir Mark Walport: Innovation: Managing Risk, Not Avoiding It.

The report recognizes innovation is not a linear process that starts in the laboratory and ends up in the clinic, the environment or the marketplace. Innovation is essential for economic growth, health, wellbeing, security and resilience. It describes how many of the greatest periods of economic growth in the past have been driven by innovation. The need to innovate is a fundamental requirement for social and economic progress. Innovative economies are more competitive, respond better to change, see higher returns on investment and create increased living standards. Innovative businesses are more productive and grow faster than businesses that fail to innovate. And it is not only businesses that must innovate: governments and social organizations need to innovate, to adapt, respond to and shape the evolution of society. Governments have an essential role in shaping the legal frameworks, institutions and policies that in turn shape the risks and incentives faced by others. It is this balance of risks and incentives that determine what choices innovators, entrepreneurs, investors, inventors, bureaucrats and citizens will make.

As importantly, the report recognizes innovation is not an unalloyed good — almost all innovations can cause both benefit and harm. Because of this, discussion of innovation has become almost inseparable from discussion of risk. Paradoxically, this discussion has become more prominent precisely because the innovations of previous generations have made our lives much safer and free of risk. People living in advanced economies have become more risk averse compared to previous generations. A common denominator of innovation in every generation is that it solves problems, creates wealth and new employment, while at the same time potentially disrupting the status quo of existing wealth and employment, and creating. new problems and challenges.

What is needed are systems of regulations that are based on rigorous evidence and well-informed public debate to balance the need for innovation with the possible harms from it. One of the biggest challenges to accomplishing such systems is the need to distinguish between hazard, exposure, risk and vulnerability. These may vary according to region and culture, making it difficult to adopt a single plan for Western Europe – or for the world.

It is interesting to speculate how the environmental organizations will react to this report. Wind and solar, the methods of electricity generation endorsed by the greens, are failing to supply modern civilization with reliable power. Innovation in electricity storage is crucial to replacing fossil fuels (as well as nuclear and hydro) as the preferred source of electricity generation throughout the world. Will the greens condemn this report and oppose necessary innovation? See links under Seeking a Common Ground, Questioning European Green, and, for the Holdren video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eDTzV6a9F4&feature=youtu.be

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Quote of the Week: Skepticism is the first step to Truth — Denis Diderot

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Number of the Week: 1.42 times area of USA (all territory)

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Lame-Duck: In the US, congressional elections take place every two years. Sessions of Congress are called a lame-duck if the session occurs after a major election choosing the successor Congress and before the new Congress is convened. From now until January 3, 2015, any sessions of Congress will be lame-duck sessions. Although important work remains to be done by the current Congress, such as budget authorizations, such sessions often include efforts by members who were not re-elected to advance favored interests – such as renewal of the production tax credit, a major subsidy for the US wind industry. There are a number of such efforts underway. See links under Cap-and-Trade and Carbon Taxes and Subsidies and Mandates Forever.

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Keystone XL: A major portion of the Keystone pipeline that is within the US has been built. However, the portion of the extended pipeline bringing oil from the tar sands of south-central Canada to refineries on the Gulf of Mexico has been blocked by officials in Washington for six years. [There is now a local legal issue regarding the approval of the pipeline by officials in Nebraska.]

This week the Senate took up the Keystone issue. It required a major election defeat of the Democratic Party and the possible defeat in a runoff featuring Democratic Senator Mary Landrieu from Louisiana, an oil and natural gas state, before Democratic Senator Harry Reid would permit a vote on the issue. The proposal did not garner sufficient Democratic votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster on the issue, 60 votes required. The sacrifice of Ms. Landrieu is an example of the extent to which the greens have seized control of the Democratic Party. After January 3, the new, Republican-controlled, US Senate may re-visit the issue, but the Democratic Party may no longer have the vote of Ms. Landrieu. See Article # 5 and links under Washington’s Control of Energy.

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Antiquated Economics: Reading statements by President Obama on the Keystone issue are reminiscent of some economic writings of the 18th and 19th century praising Mercantilism and urging that economic activity should be kept within the boundaries of a country or geographic region. Apparently, the President does not recognize that trade can benefit societies in general, or that a major issue in the American Revolution and in its founding documents came from Britain’s attempts to control trade. Will the next step be a return of the British Corn laws, by placing heavy import duties on foodstuffs, thereby protecting landed interests at the expense of the general population? See Article # 4.

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Learning from Failure: The high-tech company, Google, spent a great amount of money on internal research and development (R&D) to develop alternatives to fossil fuels, chiefly to develop renewable energy sources for the generation of electricity at costs lower than coal-fired power plants. After 4 years, following an internal review, it was decided that the effort was not on track to meet its target and the company shut down its initiative.

To their credit, two of the engineers published their experiences and observations including that “our society needs to fund scientists and engineers to propose and test new ideas, fail quickly, and share what they learn. Today, the energy innovation cycle is measured in decades, in large part because so little money is spent on critical types of R&D.” In the view of TWTW, unfortunately, Government-funded projects do not fail until it is too late. All too often the technology is deployed, before it is properly developed.

Additional note: in the view of TWTW, the justification for the research was flawed. Google used an analysis from James Hansen, a global warming alarmist. Recent research indicates that the impact of carbon dioxide on global temperatures is far less than calculated by laboratory experiments. See link under Seeking a Common Ground.

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Heavy Snows: The Great Lakes region of the northern mid-west suffered from heavy snows over the past week. As with John Holdren last year, immediately, articles appeared claiming that global warming is driving crazy winters. Roy Spencer quickly dispensed with this notion. Spencer points out that the Great Lakes are unusually cold this year, and that the storms were driven by a very cold air blast from Siberia. Where is the warming? See links under Challenging the Orthodoxy.

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Hottest Month (Year?) Since? It is November, and we are getting predictions as to how hot 2014 will be as compared with prior years. Many historic records used for such rankings, including those used by government agencies, are actually several sets of time-series data spliced together, imperfectly, using models that are not thoroughly tested. Statistician Matt Briggs has words of caution regarding such time-series data:

1) Never homogenize; 2) Carry all uncertainty forward; 3) Look at the data; 4) Define your question; 5) Only the data is the data; 6) The model is not the data; and 7) Don’t use statistics unless you have to (most statistical models stink and they are never checked on new data, the only true test). See links under Seeking a Common Ground and Measurement Issues.

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Comments to EPA: The deadline for the public to comment on the Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to regulate carbon dioxide emissions from existing power plants is December 1. The regulations are the main feature of President Obama’s Climate Action Plan, which seeks to reduce carbon dioxide emissions from existing power plants to 30% below the emission level in 2005, by the year 2030. The impact of these regulations on temperatures is probably so small, it is not measurable. See comments by Patrick Michaels under Questioning the Orthodoxy.

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Number of the Week: 1.42 times area of the USA (all territory). In discussing how gullible people are when confronted by deceptive use of physical features, Tim Ball points out that few people have any idea of the physical world, such as the size and shape of the Arctic Ocean. The Ocean is about 1.42 times the area of the USA [there is some disagreement among sources on the exact area of each.]

Ignorance of geography is all too common in the popular press, even though maps are readily searched on the internet. For an interesting discussion on Climate Perception, Projection and Propaganda please see link under Challenging the Orthodoxy.

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ARTICLES:

For the numbered articles below, please see this week’s TWTW at: www.sepp.org. The articles are at the end of the pdf.

1. A Suicidal Collapse of Western Civilization?

By S. Fred Singer, American Thinker, Nov 16, 2014

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/11/a_suicidal_collapse_of_western_civilization.html

2. EPA rules could double utility bills

By S. Fed Singer, Letters to the Editor, Richmond Times Dispatch, Nov 16, 2014

http://www.timesdispatch.com/opinion/your-opinion/letters-to-the-editor/letters-to-the-editor-nov/article_e0b261a3-ac86-5c95-86cd-2187dc76224c.html?mode=%E2%80%A6

3. Solar flares and EMPs threaten our survival

By Charles Battig, VA-SEEE, Nov 15, 2014

Letters to the Editor: Richmond Times-Dispatch, Nov. 16, 2014

http://www.timesdispatch.com/opinion/your-opinion/letters-to-the-editor/letters-to-the-editor-nov/article_e0b261a3-ac86-5c95-86cd-2187dc76224c.html?mode=%E2%80%A6

4. Obama’s Latest Economics Lesson

He says the Keystone XL pipeline will merely transport ‘their oil.’

Editorial, WSJ, Nov 14, 2014

http://online.wsj.com/articles/obamas-latest-economics-lesson-1416009292

5. The Tom Steyer Democrats

The Keystone XL filibuster reveals the new liberal coalition.

Editorial, WSJ, Nov 20, 2014

http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-tom-steyer-democrats-1416442845

6. Jonathan Gruber’s ‘Stupid’ Budget Tricks

His ObamaCare candor shows how Congress routinely cons taxpayers.

Editorial, WSJ, Nov 14, 2014

http://online.wsj.com/articles/jonathan-grubers-stupid-budget-tricks-1416009107

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NEWS YOU CAN USE:

Climategate Continued

Climategate’s Fifth Anniversary: Grubered Science (revisiting a controversy)

By Steve Gorham, Master Resource, Nov 19, 2014

https://www.masterresource.org/climategate/climategate-fifth-anniversary/

Climategate Anniversary

By Paul Matthews, The IPCC Report, Nov 17, 2014 [H/t GWPF]

https://ipccreport.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/climategate-anniversary/

Challenging the Orthodoxy

Eco-Authoritarian Catastrophism: The Dismal and Deluded Vision of Naomi Oreskes and Erik M. Conway

By Martin Lewis, Geo Currents, Oct 9, 2014

http://www.geocurrents.info/physical-geography/eco-authoritarian-catastrophism-dismal-deluded-vision-naomi-oreskes-erik-m-Conway

Is Global Warming Causing More Snowstorms? No, It Isn’t

By Roy Spencer, His Blog, Nov 21, 2014

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/11/is-global-warming-causing-more-snowstorms/

Climate Perception, Projection and Propaganda

By Tim Ball, WUWT, Nov 17, 2014

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/17/climate-perception-projection-and-propaganda/

A Member of the European Parliament Dissents on Climate

By Roger Helmer, American Thinker, Nov 20, 2014

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/11/a_member_of_the_european_parliament_dissents_on_climate.html

[SEPP Comment: EU climate policy is unnecessary, ineffectual, and ruinously expensive.]

Abbott will soon look like a genius for refusing to drag Australia to yet another climate fiasco

By Tom Switzer, The Guardian, UK, Nov 17, 2014 [H/t GWPF]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/18/abbott-will-soon-look-like-a-genius-for-refusing-to-drag-australia-to-yet-another-climate-fiasco

Australia stands firm against G20 pack on climate change

By Jane Wardell, Reuters, Nov 19, 2014

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/11/19/us-australia-france-climatechange-idUKKCN0J307K20141119

Defending the Orthodoxy

There’s growing evidence that global warming is driving crazy winters

By Chris Mooney, Washington Post, Nov 20, 2014

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/20/theres-growing-evidence-that-global-warming-is-driving-crazy-winters/

[SEPP Comment: See link to Spencer above!]

Ed Miliband: Copenhagen was necessary failure on road to Paris

By Sophie Yeo, RTCC, Nov 21, 2014 [H/t GWPF]

http://www.rtcc.org/2014/11/21/ed-miliband-copenhagen-was-necessary-failure-on-road-to-paris/

G20 urges ‘strong and effective action’ on climate change

By Staff Writers, Brisbane, Australia (AFP), Nov 16, 2014

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/G20_urges_strong_and_effective_action_on_climate_change_999.html

GOP, climate change is not partisan football

By Sally Kohn, CNN, Nov 14, 2014

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/14/opinion/kohn-climate-change/index.html?hpt=op_t1

[SEPP Comment: Climate change has been occurring for hundreds of millions of years. The Clinton-Gore administration, then the EPA, made it a political football by declaring, without evidence, that human emissions of carbon dioxide are the cause.]

GOP victory: Game over for the climate?

Editorial, Washington Post, Nov 16, 2014

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/gop-victory-game-over-for-the-climate/2014/11/16/ff646834-69f0-11e4-a31c-77759fc1eacc_story.html

[SEPP Comment: Will climate end?]

Will Republican Know-Nothings Torpedo Climate Progress?

Obama’s postponement of Keystone XL, EPA emissions regulations and now the China deal are in jeopardy.

By Mark Hertsgaard, The Nation, Dec 1-8, 2014

http://www.thenation.com/article/190465/will-republican-know-nothings-torpedo-climate-progress

Questioning the Orthodoxy

Blow For Green Tories As Climate Sceptics Party Wins By-Election

By Laura Pitel, The Times, Via GWPF, Nov 21, 2014

http://www.thegwpf.com/blow-for-tories-as-climate-sceptics-party-wins-by-election/

You Ought to Have a Look: The Weather According to Maue, Comments on EPA Power Plant Rules, the Government Bogarts the Weed

By Patrick J. Michaels and Paul C. “Chip” Knappenberger, CATO, Nov 21, 2014

http://www.cato.org/blog/you-ought-have-look-weather-according-maue-comments-epa-power-plant-rules-government-bogarts

Climate Reporting Chaos in Oregon

By Sierra Rayne, American Thinker, Nov 17, 2014

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/11/climate_reporting_chaos_in_oregon.html

Energy Flotsam and Jetsam

By Steven Hayward, Power Line, Nov 21, 2014

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/11/energy-flotsam-and-jetsam.php

Gullible leaders, journalists, swallow advertising and cheer it on?

By Jo Nova, Her Blog, Nov 17, 2014

http://joannenova.com.au/2014/11/gullible-leaders-journalists-swallow-advertising-and-brag-about-it/

North Korea — the ultimate low-carbon ideal

By Tom Quirk & Jo Nova, Her Blog, Nov 16, 2014

http://joannenova.com.au/2014/11/north-korea-the-ultimate-low-carbon-ideal/#more-39378

The Climate Scam’s Meltdown

By Walter Starck, Quadrant, Nov 20, 2014

http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/11/climate-scams-meltdown/

China—US Agreement?

Obama’s Climate Deal Is a Man-Made Disaster

By Larry Bell, Newsmax, Nov 17, 2014

http://www.newsmax.com/LarryBell/Barack-Obama-China-China-Climate-Pact-Xi-Jinping/2014/11/17/id/607742/

Partners in Pointlessness

By Tom Quirk, Quadrant, Nov 21, 2014

http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/11/obamas-co2-target/

U.S., China deal includes support for carbon capture in China

Deal expands joint carbon research in China

By Wayne Barber, Generation Hub, Nov 12, 2014

http://generationhub.com/2014/11/12/us-china-deal-includes-support-for-carbon-capture

Buoyed by China deal, Obama seeks world climate pact

By Staff Writers, Brisbane, Australia (AFP), Nov 15, 2014

http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Buoyed_by_China_deal_Obama_seeks_world_climate_pact_999.html

With Friends Like That: Obama Attacks America’s Key Ally

It is a dangerous thing to be an enemy of President Obama’s. It can be fatal to be his friend. – .

By Greg Sheridan, The Australian, Via GWPF, Nov 11, 2014

http://www.thegwpf.com/with-friends-like-that-obama-attacks-americas-key-ally/

Social Benefits of Carbon

Boosts in productivity of corn and other crops modify Northern Hemisphere carbon dioxide cycle

Croplands help drive greater seasonal change in annual cycle

By Cheryl Dyban, NSF, Nov 19, 2014

http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=133162&WT.mc_id=USNSF_51&WT.mc_ev=click

[SEPP Comment: Is this further “proof” that humans are causing global warming/climate change?]

Seeking a Common Ground

Politics, precaution and science

By Martin Livermore, The Scientific Alliance, Nov 21, 2014

http://scientific-alliance.org/scientific-alliance-newsletter/politics-precaution-and-science

Link to report: Managing risk, not avoiding it

The first Annual Report (2013) of the Government Chief Scientific Adviser, Professor Sir Mark Walport, The Government Office of Science, Nov 2014

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/376494/14-1190a-innovation-managing-risk-report.pdf

Climate change and the left

By Andrew Montford, Bishop Hill, Nov 15, 2014

http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2014/11/15/climate-change-and-the-left.html

Netherlands Temperature Controversy: Or, Yet Again, How Not To Do Time Series

By Matt Briggs, His Blog, Nov 19, 2014 [H/t Climate Etc.]

http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=14718

[SEPP Comment: Lengthy post.]

 

What It Would Really Take to Reverse Climate Change

Today’s renewable energy technologies won’t save us. So what will?

By Ross Koningstein & David Fork, IEEE Spectrum, Nov 18, 2014 [H/t Clyde Spencer]

http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/renewables/what-it-would-really-take-to-reverse-climate-change/?utm_source=techalert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=112014

‘Help’ that just slaps the third world

By Bjorn Lomborg, New York Post, November 19, 2014

http://nypost.com/2014/11/19/help-that-just-slaps-the-third-world/

[SEPP Comment: Even accepting the UN numbers, the efforts to curb CO2 will do little.]

The Answer to the Climate Problem Is Innovation—Not Empty Promises

By Bjørn Lomborg, Time, Nov 15, 2014

http://time.com/3587188/us-china-climate-deal-empty-promises-innovation/

Models v. Observations

Who needs an Orbiting Carbon Observatory to track it when you can model Carbon Dioxide movement?

By Anthony Watts, WUWT, Nov 18, 2014

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/18/who-needs-an-orbiting-carbon-observatory-when-you-can-model-of-carbon-dioxide/

[SEPP Comment: See link immediately below.]

NASA Computer Model Provides a New Portrait of Carbon Dioxide

By Staff Writers, Pasadena CA (JPL), Nov 17, 2014

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/NASA_Computer_Model_Provides_a_New_Portrait_of_Carbon_Dioxide_999.html

Model Issues

Nature article: $250 million should be spent on climate models able to skillfully simulate clouds & convection

By Staff Writer, The Hockey Schtick, Nov 19, 2014

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2014/11/nature-article-250-million-should-be.html

Fossils cast doubt on climate-change model projections on habitats

By Anthony Watts, WUWT, Nov 19, 2014

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/19/fossils-cast-doubt-on-climate-change-model-projections-on-habitats/

Warmer Soil Will Expel Less Carbon To Atmosphere Than Modeled

By Staff Writers, Berkeley CA (SPX), Nov 18, 2014

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/As_Temperatures_Rise_Soil_Will_Relinquish_Less_Carbon_to_the_Atmosphere_Than_Currently_Predicted_999.html

Measurement Issues

Earth has warmest October on record as ocean temperatures top charts

By Jason Samenow, Washington Post, Nov 14, 2014 [H/t Timothy Wise]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/11/14/october-was-earths-warmest-month-on-record-as-ocean-temperatures-top-charts/

[SEPP Comment: As if we have continuous, comprehensive surface temperature records dating to the 1880s.]

October temperatures push 2014 closer to hottest year on record

By Laura Barron-Lopez, The Hill, Nov 20, 2014

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/224878-october-temps-push-2014-toward-planets-hottest-in-135-years

[SEPP Comment: Amusing headline as the central and eastern US suffer extreme cold.]

October 2014 Global Surface (Land+Ocean) and Lower Troposphere Temperature Anomaly & Model-Data Difference Update

By Bob Tisdale, WUWT, Nov 15, 2014

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/15/october-2014-global-surface-landocean-and-lower-troposphere-temperature-anomaly-model-data-difference-update/

Changing Weather

RP Jr on disasters

By Andrew Montford, Bishop Hill, Nov 21, 2014

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2014/11/21/rp-jr-on-disasters.html

[SEPP Comment: Another review of Roger Pielke Jr’s new book questioning claims of increased extreme weather.]

That Epic, Fickle, Shovel-off-to-Buffalo Snow: An All-Time U.S. Record?

By Roy Spencer, His Blog, Nov 20, 2014

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/11/that-epic-fickle-shovel-off-to-buffalo-snow-an-all-time-u-s-record/

Changing Climate

Climatologist: 30-Year Cold Spell Strikes Earth

By Clayton Reid, Newsmax, Nov 16, 2014

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/dark-winter-cold-global-cooling/2014/11/16/id/607672/?ns_mail_uid=33788306&ns_mail_job=1595581_11172014&s=al&dkt_nbr=gliwbisr

Climate capers of the past 600,000 years

By Staff Writers, Bonn, Germany (SPX), Nov 18, 2014

http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Climate_capers_of_the_past_600000_years_999.html

Climate change did NOT cause the collapse of the Bronze Age: Cold conditions occurred two generations after population decline

Cold and wet conditions occurred two generations after collapse in 800BC

Experts from Universities in Britain and Ireland think social and economic pressures were primarily to blame – but harsh weather made it worse

When iron production took over, bronze trading networks failed

This caused widespread conflict and social collapse, the experts said

By Sarah Griffiths, Mail, UK, Nov 17, 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2838090/Climate-change-did-NOT-cause-collapse-Bronze-Age.html

Lowering Standards

New term: ‘Grubering’ and how it applies to Climate Alarmism

By M. Paul, WUWT, Nov 16, 2014

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/16/new-term-grubering-and-how-it-applies-to-climate-alarmism/

Gruber ‘Stupidity’ Scandal Implicates The Press, Too

Editorial, IBD, Nov 19, 2014

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-obama-care/111914-727282-media-cover-up-or-downplay-jonathan-gruber-scandal.htm

Opinion/Letter: Academia showing its contempt

By Charles Battig, The Daily Progress, Charlottesville, VA, Nov 18, 2014

http://www.dailyprogress.com/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/opinion-letter-academia-showing-its-contempt/article_bb632576-6ea0-11e4-ab68-e39e204aeb42.html

 

Obama Administration Elitists Have Contempt For Voters

By Victor Davis Hanson, IBD, Nov 19, 2014

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-right/111914-727224-jonathan-gruber-and-other-elitist-frauds-in-white-house.htm

Roger [Harrabin of BBC] throws down the gauntlet

By Andrew Montford, Bishop Hill, Nov 20, 2014

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2014/11/20/roger-throws-down-the-gauntlet.html

Link to article: Rich countries to discuss Green Climate Fund in Berlin

By Rober Harrabin, BBC, Nov 20, 2014

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30123932

[SEPP Comment: With propaganda photo of cooling towers emitting condensing steam.]

Communicating Better to the Public – Exaggerate, or be Vague?

Fortune Magazine Bias

By Donn Dears, Power For USA, Nov 18, 2014

https://dddusmma.wordpress.com/2014/11/18/fortune-magazine-bias/

Study: Polar Bear Populations Have Plummeted 40 Percent in Alaska and Canada

By David Kirbby, Yahoo, Nov17, 2014 [H/t Clyde Spencer.]

http://news.yahoo.com/study-polar-bear-populations-plummeted-40-percent-alaska-234011207.html

Link to paper: Polar bear population dynamics in the southern Beaufort Sea during a period of sea ice decline

By Jeffrey Bromaghin, et al, ESA, No Date

http://www.esajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1890/14-1129.1

[SEPP Comment: The headline writers are ignorant of geography. See link immediately below!]

S Beaufort polar bears largely recovered from known 2004-2006 decline, says new study

By Susan Crockford, Polar Bear Science, Nov 18, 2014

http://polarbearscience.com/2014/11/18/s-beaufort-polar-bears-largely-recovered-from-known-2004-2006-decline-says-new-study/

Communicating Better to the Public – Make things up.

Creating a New Myth

By Donn Dears, Power For USA, Nov 21, 2014

https://dddusmma.wordpress.com/2014/11/21/creating-a-new-myth/

Green disinformation: worse than we thought

By Andrew Montford, Bishop Hill, Nov 17, 2014

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2014/11/17/green-disinformation-worse-than-we-thought.html

[SEPP Comment: Normal expenses and capital costs termed as subsidies.]

Hollande raises specter of war over climate change

By Geert De Clercq, Reuters, Nov 16, 2014

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/hollande-raises-specter-war-over-climate-change-133133544.html

Why does Lord Deben misreport the science of extreme weather?

By Andrew Montford, Bishop Hill, Nov 17, 2014

http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2014/11/17/why-does-lord-deben-misreport-the-science-of-extreme-weather.html

Questioning European Green

Wind Power Push Has Blown Up In Europe’s Face

By Cormac Lucey, Sunday Times, Via GWPF, Nov 16, 2014

http://www.thegwpf.com/wind-power-push-has-blown-up-in-europes-face/

Germany’s CO2 Reductions “Fetish” Causing National Policy Turmoil: Economics And Environment Ministries Collide

By P Gosselin, No Tricks Zone, Nov 17, 2014

http://notrickszone.com/2014/11/17/germanys-co2-reductions-fetish-causing-national-policy-turmoil-economics-and-environemnt-ministries-collide/

Questioning Green Elsewhere

Climate change investment falls for second year in 2013

By Megan Rowling, Reuters, Nov 21, 2014

http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL6N0TB2KB20141121

SEPP Comment: Could it be that the rate of return on such investments is less than 1?]

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop chides Barack Obama over Great Barrier Reef climate change remarks

By Staff Writer, Radio Australia, Nov 20, 2014 [H/t GWPF]

http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/2014-11-20/foreign-minister-julie-bishop-chides-barack-obama-over-great-barrier-reef-climate-change-remarks/1391635

The poorest will suffer if we force renewable energy on the developing world

By Benny Peiser and Daniel Mahoney, City A.M., Nov 20, 2014

http://www.cityam.com/1416512685/poorest-will-suffer-if-we-force-renewable-energy-developing-world

Funding Issues

Obama: ‘We Are Going to Contribute $3 Billion to the Green Climate Fund’

By Terence Jeffrey, CNS News, Nov 15, 2014 [H/t Timothy Wise]

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-we-are-going-contribute-3-billion-green-climate-fund

Nations pledge $9.3 bn for Green Climate Fund: Germany

By Staff Writers, AFP, Nov 20, 2014

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2014/Nov-20/278307-nations-pledge-93-bn-for-green-climate-fund-germany.ashx?utm_source=Weekly+Carbon+Briefing&utm_campaign=8f7b3b8233-Carbon_Brief_Weekly_111114&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3ff5ea836a-8f7b3b8233-215218249#axzz3Jbxzx6ig

Britain Pays Twice Its Fair Share To Green Climate Fund

By Ben Webster, The Times, Via GWPF, Nov 21, 2014

http://www.thegwpf.com/britain-pays-twice-its-fair-share-to-green-climate-fund/

GWPF Calls For Halt To UK Low Carbon International Climate Funding

By Staff Writers, GWPF, Nov 18, 2014

http://www.thegwpf.com/gwpf-calls-for-halt-to-uk-low-carbon-international-climate-funding/

Climate Research needs Re-direction

By Viv Forbes, AUCSP, Nov 22, 2014

http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com.au/2014/11/the-science-is-settled.html

The Political Games Continue

Secret Science Reform Act of 2014: a step towards transparency

By Luboš Motl, The Reference Frame, Nov 20, 2014

http://motls.blogspot.com/2014/11/secret-science-reform-act-of-2014-step.html#more

Why Does Washington Want to Hide Science Data From the Public?

By Nicolas Loris, The Daily Signal, Nov 18, 2014

http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/18/washington-want-hide-science-data-public/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailydigest&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRokva7PZKXonjHpfsX66O0pUKOylMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4CRMRnI%2BSLDwEYGJlv6SgFQrLBMa1ozrgOWxX0TD7slJfbfYRPf6Ba2Jwyr%2Fs%3D

White House taunts GOP on climate change: ‘I don’t believe they can stop us’

By Ben Wolfgang, Washington Times, Nov 17, 2014

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/17/white-house-taunts-gop-climate-change/

Podesta Says Congress Can’t Stop Obama On Climate

Editorial, IBD, Nov 18, 2014 [H/t Timothy Wise]

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/111814-727028-podesta-says-dont-believe-they-can-stop-us.htm

The Insiders: Congress can derail Obama’s global warming fantasies

By Ed Rogers, Washington Post, Nov 14, 2014 [H/t Timothy Wise]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/11/14/the-insiders-congress-can-derail-obamas-global-warming-fantasies/

Cap-and-Trade and Carbon Taxes

Carbon taxes would be ATM for Congress

By William O’Keefe, George Marshall Institute, Letter, Nov 16, 2014

http://www.timesdispatch.com/opinion/your-opinion/letters-to-the-editor/letters-to-the-editor-nov/article_e0b261a3-ac86-5c95-86cd-2187dc76224c.html?mode=%E2%80%A6

Subsidies and Mandates Forever

Worldwatch Institute’s Case Against the PTC (1984 vs. 2014)

By Robert Bradley, Jr, Master Resource, Nov 21, 2014

https://www.masterresource.org/worldwatch-institute-environmental-pressure-groups/worldwatch-vs-ptc-extension/

“How is it that wind, with a 4000-year head start, is such a small player in the energy scene?” asked Howard Hayden. “Could it be—just possibly—that the answer has something to do with physics instead of economics and politics?”

EPA and other Regulators on the March

Business boiled over EPA’s water rule

By Timothy Cama, The Hill, Nov 18, 2014

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/energy-environment/224471-business-boiled-over-epas-water-rule

EPA’s next regulatory tsunami

By Paul Driessen, WUWT, Nov 18, 2014

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/18/epas-next-regulatory-tsunami/

EPA chief Gina McCarthy vows to push major initiatives despite GOP threats

By Joby Warrick, Washington Post, Nov 17, 2014

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/epa-chief-gina-mccarthy-vows-to-push-climate-priorities-despite-gop-threats/2014/11/17/361c4c56-6e93-11e4-ad12-3734c461eab6_story.html

EPA Finalizes Changes to MATS Startup and Shutdown Rules

By Sonal Patel, Power, Nov 19, 2014

http://www.powermag.com/epa-finalizes-changes-to-mats-startup-and-shutdown-rules/?hq_e=el&hq_m=2984627&hq_l=18&hq_v=5e660500d0

EPA moves on new slate of emissions standards

By Lydia Wheeler, The Hill, Nov 21, 2014

http://thehill.com/regulation/225070-epa-moves-on-new-slate-of-emissions-standards

[SEPP Comment: The manufacture of sinks and toilets is a threat to human health?]

Energy Issues – Non-US

China Invest $73Bn In Global Oil Production

By Paul Homewood, Not a Lot of People Know That, Nov 21, 2014

http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2014/11/21/china-invest-73bn-in-global-oil-production/

Ineos to invest £640m in UK shale gas exploration

By Staff Writers, BBC, Nov 20, 2014 [H/t GWPF]

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30125028

Lower Oil Prices Carry Geopolitical Consequences

Analysis, Stratfor Global Intelligence, Nov 3, 2014 [H/t GWPF]

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/lower-oil-prices-carry-geopolitical-consequences#axzz3JcUBKjyd

Overoptimistic

By Andrew Montford, Bishop Hill, Nov 18, 2014

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2014/11/18/overoptimistic.html

[SEPP Comment: Does the UK National Grid windpower capacity estimate fail to account for cold, windless nights?]

Energy Issues — US

Fossil Fuels Industries: Time to Stand Tall! (book review of Alex Epstein’s The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels)

By Erin Connors, Master Resource, Nov 20, 2014

https://www.masterresource.org/fossil-fuel-utility/fossil-fuel-manifesto-proud/

Using Coal, Oil and Gas, the Moral Choice

By H. Sterling Burnett, Heartland, Nov 18, 2014

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2014/11/18/using-coal-oil-and-gas-moral-choice

[SEPP Comment: Another review of Epstein’s book.]

Cheap-Oil Era Tilts Geopolitical Power to U.S.

By Rich Miller, Bloomberg, Nov 19, 2014 [H/t GWPF]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-20/cheap-oil-era-tilts-geopolitical-power-to-u-s-.html

[SEPP Comment: If Washington does not prevent it.]

If You Like Your Utility Rates, You Can Keep Your Utility Rates

By Steven Hayward, Power Line, Nov 19, 2014

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/11/if-you-like-your-utility-rates-you-can-keep-your-utility-rates.php

Chinese Threat To U.S. Power Grid Closer Than Thought

Editorial, IBD, Nov 21, 2014

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/112114-727669-china-cyberwar-may-be-closer-than-thought.htm

Winter Gas Crunch Again Threatens New England

By Thomas Overton, Power, Nov 18, 2014

http://www.powermag.com/winter-gas-crunch-again-threatens-new-england/?hq_e=el&hq_m=2984627&hq_l=12&hq_v=5e660500d0

Decline and fall of coal

By Zack Colman, Washington Examiner, Nov 17, 2014

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/decline-and-fall-of-coal/article/2556187

ERCOT: EPA Clean Power Plan Will Further Complicate Reliability in Texas

By Sonal Patel, Power, Nov 19, 2014

http://www.powermag.com/ercot-epa-clean-power-plan-will-further-complicate-reliability-in-texas/?hq_e=el&hq_m=2984627&hq_l=14&hq_v=5e660500d0

Fracking to be permitted in Virginia national forest

By Timothy Cama, The Hill, Nov 18, 2014

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/224483-fracking-to-be-permitted-in-virginia-national-forest

Washington’s Control of Energy

3 Reasons to Build the Keystone XL Pipeline

By Meredith Bragg & Nick Gillespie, Reason, Feb 17, 2014

http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/17/3-reasons-to-build-the-keystone-xl-pipel

Keystone Senate Defeat Shows Which Party Is Extreme

Editorial, IBD, Nov 19, 2014 [H/t Timothy Wise]

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/111914-727281-keystone-defeat-in-senate-puts-gop-in-good-light.htm

Senate Democrats stiff Mary Landrieu on Keystone XL pipeline; green lobby wins

By Stephen Dinan and Ben Wolfgang, Washington Times, Nov 18 2014

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/18/keystone-xl-pipeline-senate-dems-filibuster/

Power Sector Fossil Fuel Revenues Decrease While Renewable Energy Grows Rapidly

By Aaron Larson, Power, Nov 19, 2014

http://www.powermag.com/power-sector-fossil-fuel-revenues-decrease-while-renewable-energy-grows-rapidly/?hq_e=el&hq_m=2984627&hq_l=5&hq_v=5e660500d0

[SEPP Comment: Growth in renewables are due to subsidies and mandates.]

Oil and Natural Gas – the Future or the Past?

NARUC Addresses the Marriage of Gas and Renewables

By Bentham Paulos, Power, Nov 19, 2014

http://www.powermag.com/naruc-addresses-the-marriage-of-gas-and-renewables/?hq_e=el&hq_m=2984627&hq_l=8&hq_v=5e660500d0

“Power system demands are changing to put a premium on flexible grid operations, and gas-fired power is the best choice for increasing flexibility.”

[SEPP Comment: What is flexible about a system, such as wind, that fails without notice?]

Lower Oil Prices Slow Fracking, but Kill Solar

By Bill Gunderson, American Thinker, Nov 18, 2014 [H/t Timothy Wise]

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/11/lower_oil_prices_slow_fracking_but_kill_solar.html

Nuclear Energy and Fears

UK’s Nuclear Future In Danger Amid Mounting Areva Losses

Aby Adam Sage & Tim Webb, The Times, Via GWPF, Nov 19, 2014

http://www.thegwpf.com/uks-nuclear-future-in-danger-amid-mounting-areva-losses/

IAEA Issues 2014 Edition of Climate Change and Nuclear Power

According to IAEA Director General Amano: Energy Demand to Grow Dramatically, But Carbon Footprint Must Be Reduced

By Bruna Lecossois, IAEA, Nov 20, 2014

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/iaea-issues-2014-edition-climate-change-and-nuclear-power

Link to report: Climate Change and Nuclear Power 2014

By Staff Writers, IAEA, 2014

http://www-pub.iaea.org/books/IAEABooks/10771/Climate-Change-and-Nuclear-Power-2014

[SEPP Comment: Playing on the fears of global warming/climate change to promote nuclear power.]

Alternative, Green (“Clean”) Solar and Wind

Eco-Paradise Lost: Wind Power Bleeds Investors

By Alexander Wendt, Focus Magazin, Trans by Philipp Mueller, GWPF, Nov 20, 2014

http://www.thegwpf.com/eco-paradise-lost-wind-power-bleeds-investors/

Huge solar plant lags in early production

By Michael Blood, AP, Nov 17, 2014 [H/t Clyde Spencer]

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/huge-solar-plant-lags-early-192346351.html

Solar – the greatest market opportunity world has seen

By Giles Parkinson, RE New Economy, Nov 14, 2014 [H/t Timothy Wise]

http://reneweconomy.com.au/2014/solar-seen-greatest-market-opportunity-world-seen-48873

Solar farms will still need subsidies far beyond 2020, industry admits

Solar Trade Association says large solar farm will need subsidies until 2025-2028, despite claiming last month that all solar panel projects could be subsidy-free by 2020

By Emily Gosden, Telegraph, UK, Nov 19, 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/solarpower/11242069/Solar-farms-will-still-need-subsidies-far-beyond-2020-industry-admits.html

[SEPP Comment: Few things are as permanent as a temporary government subsidy program. See link immediately above!]

Alternative, Green (“Clean”) Energy — Other

EPA punts on renewable fuel mandate decision

By Laura Barron-Lopez, The Hill, Nov 21, 2014

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/225002-epa-punts-final-2014-renewable-fuel-mandate

Alternative, Green (“Clean”) Vehicles

Germany’s Sole Electric Car Battery Plant To Be Closed…Yet “Another Setback” For Germany’s CO2 Reduction Target

By P Gosselin, No Tricks Zone, Nov 16, 2014

http://notrickszone.com/2014/11/16/germanys-sole-electric-car-battery-plant-to-be-closed-yet-another-setback-for-germanys-co2-reduction-target/

Carbon Schemes

Carbon Capture and Burial — a Biocidal Policy

By Viv Forbes, American Thinker, Nov 18, 2014 [H/t Timothy Wise]

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/11/carbon_capture_and_burial__a_biocidal_policy.html

California Dreaming in Texas

Japanese bullet train in Texas in seven years

Private company plans to build high-speed rail line between Houston and Dallas, America’s fourth and fifth largest cities.

By Larry Ewers, Spero News, Nov 11, 2014

http://www.speroforum.com/a/QWZVQYXUSF25/75322-Japanese-bullet-train-in-Texas-in-seven-years#.VGoMQ_nF98E

Health, Energy, and Climate

Claim: Climate change will slow China’s progress in reducing infectious diseases

By Anthony Watts, WUWT, Nov 20, 2014

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/20/claim-climate-change-will-slow-chinas-progress-in-reducing-infectious-diseases/

[SEPP Comment: Early 20th century warming did not slow America’s progress on infectious diseases.]

Health Canada Windpower Study: Playing Politics (Grubered up North)

By Lisa Linowes, Master Resource, Nov 18, 2014

https://www.masterresource.org/health-safety-wind/health-canada-politics/

Oh Mann!

Feverish Times for Climate Change Analyses in Virginia

By Sierra Rayne, American Thinker, Nov 19, 2014

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/11/feverish_times_for_climate_change_analyses_in_virginia.html

Environmental Industry

First DDT, now neonics—the harmful effects of “environmentalist”-sponsored, baseless pesticide bans

By Staff Writer, ACSH, Nov 20, 2014

http://acsh.org/2014/11/first-ddt-now-neonics-harmful-effects-environmentalist-sponsored-baseless-pesticide-bans/

Other Scientific News

Jurassic climate was far more complex than previously known

By Staff Writers, Dallas TX (SPX), Nov 19, 2014

http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Jurassic_climate_of_large_swath_of_western_US_was_more_complex_than_previously_known_999.html

Seventy years ago today, a science policy milestone

By Jessica Arriens, NSF, Nov 17, 2014

http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=133384&WT.mc_id=USNSF_51&WT.mc_ev=click

Link to Roosevelt Letter:

The White House, Nov 17, 1944

https://www.nsf.gov/od/lpa/nsf50/vbush1945.htm#letter

Virus fingered as top suspect in West Coast sea star wasting disease

By Cheryl Dybas, NSF, Nov 17, 2014

http://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_summ.jsp?cntn_id=133281&WT.mc_id=USNSF_51&WT.mc_ev=click

Other News that May Be of Interest

China’s New Global Leadership

By Jeffrey Sachs, Project Syndicate, Nov 21, 2014

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/china-global-leadership-by-jeffrey-d-sachs-2014-11

[SEPP Comment: The International Monetary Fund projects China will overtake the US as the world’s largest economy by the end of 2014.]

Ten Arguments against Obama’s Executive Action

By Robert Charles, American Thinker, Nov 17, 2014

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/11/ten_arguments_against_obamas_executive_action.html

Returning bears pose dilemma in Europe

By Staff Writers, Nals, Italy (AFP), Nov 16, 2014

http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Returning_bears_pose_dilemma_in_Europe_999.html

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BELOW THE BOTTOM LINE:

Claim: ‘the pause’ is caused by small volcanic eruptions

By Anthony Watts, WUWT, Nov 19, 2014

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/19/claim-the-pause-is-caused-by-small-volcanic-eruptions/

If 97% of Scientists Say Global Warming is Real, 100% Say It Has Nearly Stopped

By Paul C. “Chip” Knappenberger and Patrick J. Michaels, CATO, WUWT, Nov 18, 2014

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/18/if-97-of-scientists-say-global-warming-is-real-100-say-it-has-nearly-stopped/

The New Consensus: 100 Percent Of Scientists Agree That Global Warming ‘Stopped’ Or ‘Slowed Down’

By Michael Bastasch, Daily Caller, Nov 19, 0214

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/19/the-new-consensus-100-of-scientists-agree-that-global-warming-stopped-or-slowed-down/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter?print=1

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norah4you
November 23, 2014 5:39 pm

When will they, CO2 believers, ever learn? Where have all the money gone?

garymount
November 23, 2014 8:09 pm

Could you use the term “Oil Sands” instead of “Tar Sands”. Even the left wing media in Canada stopped saying tar sands and says oil sands instead.

taptoudt
Reply to  garymount
November 24, 2014 5:22 am

“tar sands” is a pejorative dreamed up by the left wing. In fact, there is NO tar in these sands, only oil, and they should properly referred to as “oil sands”.

November 23, 2014 8:32 pm

Thanks, The Week That Was is always interesting, a wide view.

John F. Hultquist
November 23, 2014 8:52 pm

Number of the Week: 1.42 times area of USA (all territory)
Globes are useful to see the sorts of things mentioned. Large nice globes are expensive but I still reach for one occasionally. Mostly I use Google Earth.
Can the Google folks provide a function that allows selection of a spatial area, say Queensland, or a physical feature, say the Arctic Ocean and then affix a handle that allows one to be moved over the other as a semi-transparent overlay. There are some such applications available but I have not found an elegant one.

johanna
Reply to  John F. Hultquist
November 24, 2014 3:44 pm

John, it’s not that easy because all map projections distort the size of landmasses one way or another.
Better to look up the numbers.

November 23, 2014 9:24 pm

“1) Never homogenize; 2) Carry all uncertainty forward; 3) Look at the data; 4) Define your question; 5) Only the data is the data; 6) The model is not the data; and 7) Don’t use statistics unless you have to (most statistical models stink and they are never checked on new data, the only true test). ”
Exactly what I do with the temperature series I build.

xyzzy11
November 23, 2014 9:56 pm

I realize that this is slightly OT, but given that historically, carbon dioxide concentrations rise and fall following temperature, is it not possible for the current observed rise in those levels to have been caused by (say) the medieval warm period? It’s about the right time delay.

Reply to  xyzzy11
November 24, 2014 1:39 am

I’ve been saying that for years.
But Ferdinand E has shown that the isotope signature of the atmosphere does indicate it comes from burning fossil fuels. And we are burning fossil fuels so it’s not unreasonable.
For me, with the huge exchange of CO2 with the oceans it isn’t proven either way. But if I had to take a punt I’d bet the rise in CO2 was from man’s industrialisation.

Reply to  M Courtney
November 24, 2014 2:48 am

Some of the increase is due to fossil fuel use. But the real question is this:
Is the rise in CO2 harmful in any way?
I’ve asked Ferdinand. He says no. I say no. If anyone says yes, they need to post evidence of global harm from the added CO2. Otherwise, the default position is that CO2 is harmless.

Reply to  M Courtney
November 24, 2014 3:07 am

I didn’t say the increase was harmful. I have no evidence for that.
Don’t look to me for such evidence – if I had it I’d be grabbing my Nobel Prize.

xyzzy11
Reply to  M Courtney
November 24, 2014 5:42 am

I’d like to see the proof of that. How long can carbon dioxide stay in the ocean?

Steve Keohane
Reply to  M Courtney
November 24, 2014 7:29 am

If the increase in CO2 is human-made so be it. My main concern WRT CO2 historically is that every time CO2 gets to its historically highest levels we get re-glaciated. So how does that CO2=warming pan out?

Reply to  xyzzy11
November 24, 2014 12:24 pm

No, it’s undocumented clam farts, bubbling to the surface.

November 24, 2014 10:03 am

xyzzy,
CO2 can stay in the ocean just about forever. Do you know what created the White Cliffs of Dover?
Also: proof of what? You don’t say.
MCourtney says:
Don’t look to me for such evidence – if I had it I’d be grabbing my Nobel Prize.
I hereby award you the Nobel Prize! The same one M. Mann awarded himself.
Goose/gander.

November 24, 2014 11:51 am

Off topic, I have not been able to load either the DMI arctic page, nor Tropical Tidbits for several days now. I am also unable to use Microsoft updates during this same period of time. The other day I had read that Microsoft update is currently unavailable to everyone, including Win 7 and 8 users. Is anyone able to link to the DMI COI arctic info, or Tropical Tidbits?
DMI link…http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php