Josh on “28Gate”

A new cartoon from Josh below on the BBC “28 Gate” scandal.

Speaking of 28Gate, the finder of the “secret” document that BBC hired six lawyers to keep away from the public, will be live on WUWT-TV to talk about the issue and the find, at 3:30PM PST/6:30 EST today. Tune in!

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41 Responses to Josh on “28Gate”

  1. Kurt in Switzerland says:

    Great stuff. Hopefully the Telegraph or the Mail will run it on the front page.
    But you forgot to draw the clown and the cleric.

    Kurt in Switzerland

  2. John Blake says:

    When will these peculiar nasties outgrow their playground prejudices?

  3. toby says:

    Wonder how much the BBC spent on the six lawyers? All that money wasted on trying to block information that was already in the public domain LOL. Well, it’s taxpayer’s money anyway, so who cares right? BBC = Buttheads Bleeding Cash

  4. omnologos says:

    I have the feeling the real transcript will sound way way nuttier than anything Josh or any of us can ever dream…

  5. commieBob says:

    Lord, what fools these mortals be!

  6. Dave says:

    omnologos says:

    November 15, 2012 at 7:35 am
    “I have the feeling the real transcript will sound way way nuttier than anything Josh or any of us can ever dream…”

    And I have a feeling that you’re absolutely spot on…

  7. theduke says:

    Most excellent, Josh! The very truth of the matter.

  8. Will S says:

    Any semblance of a serious opposition effort by WUWT seems to have vanished almost completely, leaving cartoons and polemics as the rearguard

  9. Someone should interview Richard North to see what tidbits he might remember that he hasn’t posted yet.

  10. CK says:

    James Delingpole wrote the following:
    http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/james-delingpole/8758121/heres-a-bbc-scandal-that-should-really-make-you-disgusted/

    Wow. Didn’t realise so many people died from fuel poverty in the UK… 2,700 people frozen to death, thanks to people like Al Gore, Phil Jones, and Michael Mann. Thanks to orgs like IPCC, BBC, and MET office–the Nobel Prize Committee included for recognising these crooks. All these buffoons should be dragged out from their homes in the middle of the night and hung from wind turbines for crimes against humanity. Just a matter of time before Al Gore gets beaten up with a hockey stick, mark my words.

  11. oldseadog says:

    Will S,
    How do you work that out? Seems to me the current WUWT TV 24hr. programme isn’t doing too badly.

  12. John West says:

    @ Will S

    Just as you probably don’t understand that the well-funded and organized denial machine is a fantasy, you probably don’t understand that humor can be serious opposition. I’m not sure you know what polemic means either. Let’s try a substitution with the definition:

    POLEMIC
    1 a : an aggressive attack on or refutation of the opinions or principles of another
    b : the art or practice of disputation or controversy —usually used in plural but singular or
    plural in construction
    2: an aggressive controversialist : DISPUTANT

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/polemic

    So your sentence becomes:

    Any semblance of a serious opposition effort by WUWT seems to have vanished almost completely, leaving cartoons and aggressive attacks on or refutations of the opinions or principles of others as the rearguard.
    I don’t know, but the sentence doesn’t seem to have internal consistency to me.
    WUWT?

  13. Eric Huxter says:

    Will S,

    Since virtually every aspect of ‘the settled science’ continues to be sensibly and scientifically challenged here the odd laugh now and again is perfectly acceptable.

    The attempt to use CO2 as Occam’s razor to cut the Gordian knot of climate complexity has left a very large number of loose ends. WUWT does an excellent job in showing the weight of scientific evidence identifying those loose ends.

  14. This is one section of the BBC trying to lessen the impact of bad news by releasing it when another part of the BBC is reeling from ongoing investigations of paedophilia. Typical.

  15. john says:

    Who is the pivot man?

  16. @ john November 15, 2012 at 9:57 am “Who is the pivot man?”

    Since US anti-skeptic book author Ross Gelbspan seems to be so often found as the central source of the accusation that skeptic climate scientists are corrupt (as I pointed out in my #2 WUWT guest post http://bit.ly/SA5Bfs ), and he seems to have had an audience at the BBC within months of the BBC 28 seminar ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/reports/politics/montreal2_20051129.shtml ), it makes me wonder if he had any input – directly or indirectly – with that bunch. After all, one of the BBC 28 mimics a long-held talking point of Gelbspan’s: http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/joe-smith-dangerous-news-twenty-eight-gate-begins/#comment-34974

  17. Tom O says:

    Will S-
    In reference to your statements, exactly what part of WUWT is it that you don’t read? The part with the words in it? That would be my guess, at least.

  18. Nik says:

    The problem is that it’s now a political football. No politician is willing to alienate the voters who have been suckered, sorry… who truly believe in AGW.

    I wonder if Al Gore will go down in the history books as another of lifes great usurper of people feelings to meet his own ends?… Hitler being another one. Who knows, with a bit of luck he might kill as many.

  19. pat says:

    and how much further damage is bbc inflicting on itself by not interviewing tony newbery and maurizio, given how soon after the Tribunal ruling – paid for by public licence fees – the secret list was published online. surely its publication is OF GREAT CONCERN to the BBC? LOL.

  20. son of mulder says:

    “Lord McAlpine: George Monbiot apologises for paedophilia slurs, but insists: ‘I wanted to help the voiceless be heard’ George Monbiot, the environmental campaigner and Guardian columnist, has apologised for wrongly smearing Lord McAlpine as a paedophile but claimed he only wanted to address “an awful injustice.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9681274/Lord-McAlpine-George-Monbiot-apologises-for-paedophilia-slurs-but-insists-I-wanted-to-help-the-voiceless-be-heard.html

    Even funnier than a Josh Cartoon. One day might we hear “Climate Change: I only wanted to save the poor little puppy dogs and pussy cats”?

  21. UK Sceptic says:

    Josh – an international treasure. Thanks for the belly laugh. :D

  22. Gerard says:

    The Australian ABC program Catalyst ran an Al Gore like scare program on Australia’s climate health last night. According to Catalyst we’re in deep doggy do do!

  23. David Jojnes says:

    John Blake says:
    November 15, 2012 at 7:26 am
    When will these peculiar nasties outgrow their playground prejudices?

    Why would they. They saw last week that their tactics work!

  24. son of mulder, November 15, 2012 at 12:05 pm:
    Even funnier than a Josh Cartoon. One day might we hear “Climate Change: I only wanted to save the poor little puppy dogs and pussy cats”?

    Missed that one, did you?
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/05/friday-funny-think-furry-happy-thoughts/

  25. Robert A. Taylor says:

    Off subject cartoon idea:
    Don’t be Gored by the ‘dirty weather’ bull, with Al Gore as a charging bull breaking crockery.

  26. Silver Ralph says:

    .
    George Monbiot’s second apology:

    This is Mr Monbiot’s statement in full.

    “I have helped to malign an innocent view of the climate and the mechanisms that regulate it. I have done a few stupid things in my life, but nothing as stupid as this. The tweets I sent which hinted – as I assumed to be the case – that the climate was warming were so idiotic that, looking back on them today, I cannot believe that I wrote them.
    But I did, and they are unforgiveable. I helped to stoke an atmosphere of febrile innuendo around a stable climate and I am desperately sorry for the harm I have done to the reputation of science. I have set out, throughout my adult life, to try to do good; instead I have now played a part in inflicting a terrible hurt upon the reputation of science. I apologise abjectly and unreservedly to all scientists worthy of that title.

    What follows is in no sense an attempt to excuse the tweets I wrote, but simply to try to explain them.

    I knew that polar bears had been treated appallingly, and I believed that the terrible things done to them had been compounded by a denial of recognition and a denial of the recourse to public sympathy. When I saw a report on polar bears on Newsnight I was very upset. I trusted this account unquestioningly. I was horrified by what was said, and by the fact that the population census of polar bears appeared to have been kept secret for so long.
    I felt a powerful compulsion to do what I have done throughout my career: to help any mammal that looks cuddly and will generate public sympathy for our new religion. But in this case I did so without any of the care I usually take when assessing and reporting an issue. I allowed myself to be carried away by a sense of moral outrage. As a result, far from addressing an awful injustice, I contributed to one, by destroying businesses in the West, making millions unemployed and plunging millions of mainly elderly people into fuel poverty. I have acted in an unprofessional, thoughtless and cruel manner, and I am sorry beyond words.”

    .

  27. RockyRoad says:

    GroupieThink.

    (Thanks for the laugh, Josh. Then my mind turned morbid on what these people have destroyed.)

  28. David Ball says:

    Love your stuff Josh. You forgot “Let them eat cake” though.

  29. RoyFOMR says:

    Wills and Kate, really enjoyed watching your wedding. Thanks for letting us share.
    But I think I should warn you that, despite what Daddy says, a polemic is not an irishman in drag doing an exotic dance!
    Use a dictionary to find out what it really means (Yes it’s a big word but easy to say if you just think of Dick, Shaun and your little brother Henry’s nickname)

  30. RoyFOMR says:

    Not that nickname Wills! The polite one.

  31. Crispin in Waterloo says:

    The author of a famous polemic on the future of telecommunications was Alexander Graham Bellinski. He was the first telephone Pole.

    [Reply: You are banned for life. — mod.]

    .

    [/ i keed!]

  32. Robert A. Taylor says:

    Some times I’m gullible. For a moment I took
    Silver Ralph says:
    November 15, 2012 at 1:35 p
    George Monbiot’s second apology:
    seriously, and started to ask for a link.

  33. ConfusedPhoton says:

    CK
    Beware of numbers thrown out by both sides of the debate.
    According to the government department (ONS)
    “There were an estimated 25,700 excess winter deaths in England and Wales in 2010/11, virtually unchanged from the previous winter”
    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/subnational-health2/excess-winter-mortality-in-england-and-wales/2010-11–provisional–and-2009-10–final-/stb-ewm-2010-11.html
    I am not sure how this breaks up and what proportion is due to not affording to heat their homes. However, it does indicate how cold will affect us if the temperature significantly falls over this and the next decade.

  34. Pointman says:

    They even went to court, spending what by common estimates is well into hundreds of thousand pounds of license payer’s money, and secured a favourable decision from a panel of so-called independent judges, one of whom seems to think that habitually referring to climate realists as deniers, didn’t somehow disqualify them from acting impartially.

    http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/some-direct-questions-for-the-bbc-that-itll-never-answer/

    Pointman

  35. dave ward says:

    Kurt in Switzerland says:
    “Great stuff. Hopefully the Telegraph or the Mail will run it on the front page.”

    That might take a while. The Mail has just devoted over 7 (print edition) pages to the Leveson Enquiry, and an expose of Common Purpose, the cancerous organisation which has woven its tentacles through the Beeb and every aspect of UK government.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233717/How-Lefts-old-boy-network-helps-appoint-mandarins.html
    About time too…

  36. AJB says:

    Always admire the use of hairstyles in your cartoons Josh. This time you’ve exceled yourself.

  37. Gail Combs says:

    Will S says:
    November 15, 2012 at 7:50 am

    Any semblance of a serious opposition effort by WUWT seems to have vanished almost completely, leaving cartoons and polemics as the rearguard
    ________________________________________
    One debates an intellectual equal, one laughs at a fool. We are laughing.

  38. observa says:

    Well you gotta admit we’ve made some progress with these lefties since the fall of the Wall. They’re now conducting their Show Trials in private. The only worry as usual is their numbers-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_the_Twenty-One

  39. Tony B (another one) says:

    Right – I think I see a t-shirt opportunity here, maybe slightly edited down.

    I would buy it, and wear it, so the world can see the message whenever I take my dog for a walk…

  40. Chris Edwards says:

    Nik isnt there some nonsense about loosing an argument when you invoke Hitler ? Why not use Stalin ? his methods are more like the AGW crowd and he killed far more people as well!

  41. Brian H says:

    Chris;
    You lose an argument when you spell it “loose”, too. ;p Goose!

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