Update on Colorado Wildfires

I have reports from the scene, plus also from the NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

The Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite captured this natural-color image on June 23, 2012. Red outlines approximate the locations of actively burning fires. The High Park and Weber Fires produced the largest plumes of smoke. Credit: NASA Earth Observatory image by Jesse Allen using data obtained from the Land Atmosphere Near real-time Capability for EOS (LANCE).

Nearly half of the United States’ airborne fire suppression equipment was operating over Colorado on June 25, 2012, CNN reported, as tens of thousands of acres burned. Fires raged in southwestern Colorado, northeastern Colorado, and multiple locations in between.

The Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite captured this natural-color image on June 23, 2012. Red outlines approximate the locations of actively burning fires. The High Park and Weber Fires produced the largest plumes of smoke. 

The High Park Fire continued to burn west of Fort Collins. Started by lightning on June 9, 2012, this blaze had consumed 83,205 acres (33,672 hectares), making it the second-largest fire in Colorado history, after the Hayman Fire that burned in 2002. As of June 25, more than 2,000 people were fighting the High Park Fire, and firefighters had it 45 percent contained, according to InciWeb. Nevertheless, The Denver Post reported that the fire had destroyed 248 homes, making it the most destructive in Colorado history, even if it was not the largest.

In the opposite corner of the state, the Weber Fire started around 4:15 p.m. on June 22. As of June 25, the fire had burned approximately 8,300 acres (3,400 hectares) and was being fought by 164 personnel. The cause was under investigation. The fire had high growth potential because of possible wind gusts from thunderstorms, InciWeb reported. On the other side of Durango, the Little Sand Fire had been burning for weeks after being started by a lightning strike on May 13. As of June 25, that fire had burned 21,616 acres (8,748 hectares), was being fought by nearly 200 people, and was 31 percent contained.

West of Colorado Springs, the Waldo Canyon Fire forced 11,000 people from their homes, many of them compelled to evacuate in the middle of the night on June 23rd. The fire started around noon on June 23, and by June 25 it had grown to 3,446 acres (1,395 hectares). InciWeb stated that 450 firefighters were battling the blaze, which retained the potential for rapid growth.

The Woodland Heights Fire just west of Estes Park was small but very destructive, consuming 27 acres (11 hectares) and destroying 22 homes, Denver’s Channel 7 News reported. That fire was completely contained by the evening of June 24.

As fires burned, Colorado also coped with extreme heat. The Denver Post reported that Denver endured triple-digit temperatures June 22 through 24, and the National Weather Service forecast temperatures of at least 100 degrees Fahrenheit (38 degrees Celsius) for June 25 and 26, with temperatures in the upper 90s through June 29.

Colorado’s fires have followed a dry spring. Although the state experienced unusually heavy snow in February, little snow followed in March and April, part of a larger pattern of low snowfall. By June 19, 2012, conditions throughout the state ranged from unusually dry to extreme drought, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor.

On June 25, 2012, Tim Mathewson, a fire meteorologist with the Rocky Mountain Area Coordination Center, remarked: “Current conditions are comparable to 2002 fire season, which was the worst in Colorado history. Fires haven’t burned as many acres at this point, but the drought conditions and fuel conditions are right up there with the 2002 season, if not worse.”

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Reader Mark Katz submits this story:

Just thought I’d submit a rather serious issue with CO Springs. Storms to the west of the Waldo Canyon fire created drafts that pushed the fire up over the ridge into the city proper. RH in the single digits (as low as 1%) coupled with record high temps five days in a row are only making matters worse.

Homes are now burning on the far west side of the city. Flying W Ranch – an icon here, has burned down, and now I’m reading that Garden of the Gods is threatened. Thousands have evacuated (I have a family of 4 coming to stay with me).

It is a sad day though, thankfully, there are no reported injuries by either residents or firefighters. I know MrPete as well as Steve M’s sister both live here as well as many other WUWT fans and readers.

http://www.gazette.com/articles/fire-140851-highway-waldo.html

 

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74 Responses to Update on Colorado Wildfires

  1. Truly frightening consequence of years of fire suppression?

  2. Interstellar Bill says:

    Not to carp but do we always have to use the somewhat over-the-top anthropomorphic metaphor: ‘rage’ when talking about large wildfires.
    In all of nature, only mammals exhibit rage behavior, but in truth wildfires never do, nor do tornadoes or hurricanes.
    Aren’t scientists supposed to discard misleading metaphors?
    I know the media constantly prattles about fires that are ‘raging out of control’ but the thoughtless repetition of that phrase has made it unbearably hackneyed to this grizzled former editor.
    Can everybody please never use it again at WUWT?

  3. wendellwx52 says:

    32,000 are under mandatory evacuation orders tonight. Air Force Academy is threatened.

  4. Mike says:

    Putting every forest fire out may seem like a good idea, but it is the opposite of what nature intended. Fire is required to go through forests every 30 – 40 years to help with seed germination, clear space of old dead standing trees for new growth. It’s natural.
    When we keep putting them out tinder builds on the forest floor and then when fire takes hold – as it eventually must, the heat is now so intense it kills the trees.
    But of course forest management people know best. (If I was an American I would add – ‘sarc’ here, but as i’m a Limey I’ll let you figure it out).

  5. Mark says:

    Uh, technically Takatz, not Katz, though my bad for not signing my full name. :)

    Mark

  6. David Banks says:

    I live in Colorado Springs and I can say it is frightening to watch the fire on the mountain at night. The smoke today was incredible and many people I know are being evacuated. This will leave a huge mark on the town for years to come. I have heard many people say this is proof of GW. What it is proof of is poor forest management as there is an incredible amount of fuel in this area.

    I heard fire fighters as long as 10 Years ago say we were in for a big one someday.

  7. Mark says:

    If you saw the fires first hand, rage is the first thought that would come to your mind as a descriptive term. It is truly quite devastating to watch as friends’ homes burn while you can do nothing. I was evacuated myself from one hurricane and nearly evacuated a second time (which ended up worse than the first) when I lived in Florida and the feeling then was nothing compared to this. For whatever reason, fire is frightening.

    Mark

  8. Mark says:

    What it is proof of is poor forest management as there is an incredible amount of fuel in this area.

    I would not doubt that part of the problem is the beetle damage – an epidemic that is purported to be over, that left a whole lot of standing firewood. Of course, I’m sure they can tie the beetle epidemic to GW somehow as well.

    I’m pretty safe, so not particularly worried, which is why my friends are coming here. I live at least 10, maybe 15, miles from the fires and on the other side of I-25 (a rather decent fire break nearly a quarter mile across including right-of-ways).

    Mark

  9. I thought that the Forestry Service had moved off of the “Jump on every fire” mode and even did controlled burns after those horrible fires of about 15 years ago.

  10. Mark T says:

    Probably did, but 19% of our normal precip + record temps + 1% rel humidity + high winds creates the perfect storm for fire.

    Mark

  11. R. Shearer says:

    A fire is burning behind NCAR in Boulder now.

  12. It’s been raining this night, finally, after about six weeks of continuous drought here in South Colorado (suffocating afternoons, desert-cold early mornings). Hopefully, rain will help putting forest fires out. Of course, forest fires are inevitable natural disasters — but disasters nevertheless, painful for some and tiresome for all.

    I’ve seen nature in its horrible “glory” in Siberian snows, and in the mountains and deserts of Central Asia — not to mention tornadoes and fires here in America. All I can say about people who worship “Nature” in its primeval, uncontrolled state is: fools.

    It’s easy to talk about “beautiful environment” in glitzy kitchens of self-loathing California or while walking in the parks of degenerate European plutocracy. But when you are alone, facing “Nature” and “biodiversity” in their careless, inhuman ugliness… more often than not you’d rather be in your kitchen paving the road to hell with good intentions. Nature worshipers are Death worshipers.

    P.S. Yes, fire rages, however trite is the expression. Only one who has never been in a big fire can say it doesn’t. It behaves like an insatiable, unstoppable monster, thousands of monsters attacking every trace of human habitation and everything alive — the analogy is correct.

  13. Bill Tuttle says:

    Rhoda Ramirez says:
    June 26, 2012 at 10:09 pm
    I thought that the Forestry Service had moved off of the “Jump on every fire” mode and even did controlled burns after those horrible fires of about 15 years ago.

    It takes a lot of time and manpower to prep and do a controlled burn properly — the current growth of the federal gummint is all in DC, and the Forestry Service hasn’t even been getting enough folks to replace transfers and retirees.

  14. Eyal Porat says:

    So many fires simultaneously is a cause for suspicion. Ask the Aussies, they know what it’s like.
    Here (in Israel) most of the big fires are deliberately caused by humans – as a kind of terror acts.
    We just had a large fire near Jerusalem yesterday with 3 centers lit together .
    There are bad people out there.
    And in addition to this, the fact that all fires are put out before they consume the extra dry materials in the woods adds to the next fire potential. I beleive a paper was released not long ago saying just that (I saw it somewhere in WUWT).

  15. Common Sense says:

    It’s definitely looking like 2002, just horrible.

    It’s interesting that before 1996 and the Buffalo Creek Fire, the largest fire was only 3,000 acres (BC was 12,000 in one day). After 1996, we experienced far larger fires, the BC fire, the largest at the time, is now only 14th.

    It really does seem to be a difference of fuels. My dad remembers consistent thinning of the forest and aggressive management of beetle infestations while he was growing up (1940s and on). In our arid climate, there are only supposed to be 4-5 Ponderosa pines per acre yet we now have many more. It used to be managed naturally by fire, but once the area was settled, fires were not allowed to burn. In my lifetime, I can’t remember any thinning of the forests near us. I do remember several smaller fires, maybe a few acres in size. My brother says that Wyoming doesn’t have these large fires because they also aggressively manage their forests.

    Of course now there’s still a lot of fuel because no one was allowed to removed the charcoaled trees from past fires, or the beetle-killed trees, and they now cover the forest floor, the perfect fuel, especially with all the grasses coming back.

    There are also far more people in the Red Zone of Colorado, most who have no idea of the fire risk. Even in the midst of the current situation, my parents found bikers with a grill and no water along our road. And I can’t even count the number of people who throw cigarette butts out the car window. Anything can start one of these, the 44,100 acre Last Chance fire yesterday was started by a sparks from a tire that came off of a car. 11 families lost their homes and many farmers their crops.

  16. Bill Parsons says:

    @ Mike, June 26, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    There is no shortage of people who understand the unintended consequences of fire suppression, but every year, there are more people building their houses in dangerous places. Just as people in wards of New Orleans are willing to live in a house built below sea level, there are folks here who want to live in densely forested areas. It so happens that several front range cities will be poster children for this lifestyle choice. How does this situation happen?

    I imagine one sceneario goes something like this: county governments and municipalities generate revenue by encouraging developments in the hinterlands. Realtors sell secluded parcels to people seeking privacy and a more natural lifestyle in remote areas. But people with homes want guarantees of fire prevention from their local two-engine fire department. Ultimately such areas becomes incorporated into townships whose councils profit from fees. City inspectors restrict tree cutting within the city’s boundaries unless a licensed, taxable agency is called in, or a a city crew can be assigned to do it at homeowner’s cost. My suburb requires permits to cut down trees even if they overgrow and threaten a structure. How many people will pay a fee and hire arborists to cut down trees for $500? Bettter to keep the overgrown eyesore. As you point out, combustible material accumulates naturally – it grows and dies. Unless fires are encouraged every so often, the likelihood of a major conlagration continues to increse.

    The lack of proper zoning and tree-cutting plans can now be seen along the Colorado front range. I’ve lived here all my life, and I can’t recall seeing anything like this. From high ground in Denver’s suburbs, I can look south, northwest, and north-northwest and see plumes of smoke rising from “uncontained” fires … burning (but not “raging”, if it please Interstellar Bill) in Colorado Springs, Boulder and Fort Collins.

    This may not be the “perfect storm” (California’s Santa Anna brushfires may consume more houses, or cause higher dollar damage) but, as I said, it’s the worst I’ve seen up close. The physical factors which made front-range fires almost inevitable this year: an anomalously dry winter and spring, followed by weeks of baking heat with several, record-setting daily high temps within those weeks, unusually strong and persistent winds, humidity in the single digits, burgeoning stands of beetle-killed pine, ample fire-suppressed timber and brush… and of course, more homes than ever built in hazard-prone areas. A dozen lightning strikes, unknown numbers of irresponsible tourists, an arson or two (Google Governor Hickenlooper and “arson”) and you have all the ingredients for people losing their bigggest investments – their homes. No “global warming” policy would help this tragedy – only aggravate it by depleting resources to combat it. Instead, this is combination of just the right physical causes, and a lot of bad decisions made by people who should know better. Topping it off are the news services aided by the entire front range megalopolis aiming hand-held video devices at a spectacle as bizarre and strange as an approaching hurricane. Just so…

    This evening’s news shows the fire creeping down the front range west of Colorado Springs, and into one of the subdivisions, where, according to the reporter doing the story, firemen can only conduct “triage” – determine which structures can and should be saved. Several burning houses illuminated the night sky, while the camera panned across the scene.

  17. Dear oh dear. Too many wrong statements to ignore.

    MBtheK blames fire suppression of the past. Which past fires would you have let burn? Without fire suppression CO Springs would have burned to the ground 5 times by now. I suggest that you dismantle your local fire suppression system and see how long your home lasts.

    In the 1970′s the Gila NF decided to try Let It Burn. Withhold suppression, under the theory that fires would gradually get smaller and benign as time went on. After 50 years of that experiment, the Gila NF just hosted the largest, most destructive fire in New Mexico history. The Whitewater-Baldy Complex Fire burned nearly 300,000 acres.

    Whoops. I guess that experiment failed bigtime. Before people repeat armchair wisdom like “fire suppression is the problem” maybe they ought to examine whether such pronouncements are catastrophically stupid.

    Mike says putting out fires is the opposite of what nature intended. Channeling Mother Nature again? What did Mother Nature intend for you? A short brutish life eating roots you dug with a stick? Please spare us the reading of entrails from the Temple of Nature. You know you know nothing and yet you persist in blaring it with a trumpet. We get it. You know naught, Druid dude.

    David says we knew there were fuels 10 years ago because a firefighter said so. No need to consult any actual expert; you could have seen for yourself rather than rely on hearsay from a high school dropout. Guess what? Fuel is not a static phenomenon. It is biological. Fuel grows. There is even more fuel than there was 10 years ago. News flash, etc.

    Mark say the beetles did it. Guess what? Green wood and needles burn too. If anything the beetles reduced the fire hazard by killing and hence stopping (albeit temporarily) fuel growth. The beetle-killed trees turned red and then shed their needles. That reduced fine fuels in the air. After 5 years a beetle-killed forest will not carry a crown fire, because the crowns are gone. After 10 years the fine fuels grow back, closer to the ground but still able to carry a fire fast and furious. Biology is inexorable. Biomass grows!

    Rhoda exhibits not a clue who is responsible for the land. What the heck is the “Forestry Service”? If you don’t know the name of the agencies responsible for your landscape, it’s like watching a ball game and not knowing who is playing. Have a hot dog and watch the crowd. The game is not of interest to you. In fact, go home, unless of course your home is burned down because your cluelessness finally caught up to you.

    People, please. Take some responsibility for your own lives. Contrary to popular opinion, Big Brother is not watching. If you don’t become engaged in the management your own landscape, from your yard to your watershed, then you deserve whatever catastrophe “nature” throws at you. Passive ignorance is not bliss, it’s deadly. Thank goodness you folks are not my neighbors.

  18. ironargonaut says:

    they let the Yellowstone fires of 88 burn naturally at first and got a lot of flack for it, also. Sometimes stuff just happens.
    spend billions pruning a wild forest or billions rebuilding, which costs more?

    Best wishes to all effected.

  19. Kelvin Vaughan says:

    Once CO has burned out you will get CO2!

  20. Marj the Truck Driver says:

    As someone with many years spent in heavily forested areas, and who has spent many hours driving through Colorado, I find it rather telling that most of what is being written concentrates on the weather, with scant mention of the fuel.
    Hundreds of thousands of acres of Colorado trees have been suffering from disease and lack of cutting and over zealous fire fighting for decades. The forests are/were dead or dying.
    Fires are overdue. If some amount of controlled burn had been done a little at a time, or diseased trees had been logged and cleared, then those fires would not have nearly the power they are exhibiting, since fuel would be far more scarce.
    This lack of forestry stewardship can be blamed on the “green” movement. They believe that any removal of trees is bad… I wonder how they deal with the “carbon footprint” of these fires?

  21. Ed Dahlgren says:

    Forest-management practices and building homes in the woods are wide of the mark now when talking about the Waldo Canyon fire.

    Areas of Colorado Springs that were evacuated yesterday (generally east of Garden of the Gods in particular) aren’t in forest. A house I lived in 24 years ago was in that mandatory evacuation area; it’s on a 10,000 square-foot lot in a suburban tract (Holland Park) in an area built out largely in the 1960s and 1970s.

    My (ex-)mother-in-law lives in a house a bit to the south (just off Mesa Rd.), 6 blocks east of the mandatory evacuation. The last I heard, the plan was for her, a son, and a grandson to bug out last night. That neighborhood is a touch more upscale than my old Levittown, but still not forested. (However, there is a great deal of wild grass and scrub that will burn quickly and easily around there, and if the fire gets to that neighborhood, the houses are likely gone.)

  22. Mark says:

    Mark say the beetles did it. Guess what? Green wood and needles burn too.

    Learn to read. I neither stated nor implied “beetles did it.” Wow.

    Beetle damage is a contributing factor. Yeah, green wood and needles burn, but standing dead trees that have not been cleared burn even better, and ignite from a simple ember. These trees are equivaltent to accumulated fuel on the ground that has not been cleared, fuel that is normally cleared by natural wildfires but no longer because of poor forest management or .

    Try not to sound so smart next time and maybe you’ll sound a little smarter.

    Mark

  23. Mark says:

    People, please. Take some responsibility for your own lives.

    A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Please take responsibility for yours.

    Mark

  24. Pamela Gray says:

    This devastation has more to do with urban sprawl and betting on a house location than anything else. It is newsworthy because homes are burning and is the price paid for the bet. What is the bet? Build a house and surround it with tall trees near a forest boundary. Build a house on a sand spit. Build a house on an unstable hill-side. Live in tornado alley. Build a house near a river or in a flood plain. Some pay the price of the bet. Some don’t. The blame is in the mirror. And I am truly sorry that some have lost the bet.

  25. elmer says:

    Why don’t they just hire these guys to make it rain?
    http://www.weathermodification.com/

  26. Mark says:

    I find it rather telling that most of what is being written concentrates on the weather, with scant mention of the fuel.

    Fuel is much less likely to ignite, and it burns much more slowly, when it’s moist, which is not the case here. The area where the fire started IS maintained, albeit not as well as it should. Had we not had the lack of precipitation, wind, high temps, and low humidity, the fire progress may have been slowed if not stopped altogether. Add in the additional fuel from beetle damage and/or lack of clearing in general, and we have the problems we have now.

    Note, btw, that the fire was not considered a severe threat to the neighborhoods that burned until the winds suddenly shifted as a result of the storm to the west. It jumped containment lines moved over the ridge into Mountain Shadows quite quickly.

    At least all of the people are safe.

    Mark

  27. DirtyJobsGUy says:

    Structure protection is relatively easy in the abstract for fire, storm and flood protection – Don’t build in the hazard zone. Here in Connecticut we have the most trees close to houses and roads of any place in the country. Fire is a low risk but storms take out power on a large scale. Trimming trees away from houses and power lines gets fierce resistance. Adequate preparation for disaster helps as well (access for firefighters, water supplies, etc.)
    People still tend to thing of the “100 year” event as one that will not recur for 100 years exactly, so they can forget the lessons learned. After our power outage here last fall, I beefed up my generator set up and emergency supplies, but many neighbors sold their generators.

  28. Steve Keohane says:

    I moved to Colorado in 1972, to the front range north of Denver. Until sometime in the 90s, one could get a $10 permit from the Forest Service to cut and remove all the dead wood one wanted. Stopping this program certainly added available fuel to the forests here.

  29. Pamela Gray says:

    We continue to be cold and wet here in NE Oregon (thanks to the oceanic and atmospheric conditions). That means it will be hot and dry somewhere else (IE Colorado). Tonight Oregon will likely be setting record low temps as there is a frost advisory in affect in the high plains of Oregon (again) with the possibility of freezing temps. We have also seen long standing rainfall records being pushed aside for new rainfall records. These conditions were predicted based on analogue years in the past when the same oceanic and atmospheric conditions existed. Noisely, we have been experiencing these Spring and Summer conditions for almost a decade now.

  30. Bill Parsons says:

    Ed Dahlgren says:
    June 27, 2012 at 5:02 am

    Forest-management practices and building homes in the woods are wide of the mark now when talking about the Waldo Canyon fire.

    Areas of Colorado Springs that were evacuated yesterday (generally east of Garden of the Gods in particular) aren’t in forest…

    Good point. It isn’t just trees. Anybody who has lived on the plains can speak to the threat of prairie grass fires. Dead grasses and scrub oak could probably carry a fire right through a subdivision like a fuse. Cheat grass – a short grass that “invaded” several hundred years ago – is brown by the end of June under normal conditions. I imagine there are several other taller species that are prettty good tinder right now.

  31. Mike Dubrasich says:
    June 27, 2012 at 12:15 am

    Dear oh dear. Too many wrong statements to ignore.
    . . .
    In the 1970′s the Gila NF decided to try Let It Burn. Withhold suppression, under the theory that fires would gradually get smaller and benign as time went on. After 50 years of that experiment, . . .

    Indeed. Care to have someone competent look at any of your other statements?

  32. FredericM says:

    Political favoritism seems to drive educated man. Educated in what? Science mastered by politicians? Is it not the quest of WUWT in finding truth? Burn or No Burn is the question. Fire is the rapid oxidation of carbon fuel. Rust is oxidation. Department of Agriculture implies man managing soil and its products. U.S.F.S is part of the Ag business of our Federal Government, or so was during the creation of our Forest Reserves of the late 1890′s, soon to become National Forests. Watershed protection was the origin – that to some degree would require managing the soil-flora growth. In brief, Sustain Yield management.

    In the 70′s a narrow purpose study in high altitude Sequoia seed propagation. Ah, discovery that heat-fire augmented the seed release and germination. Oh said some, then let us apply this revelation to the mid altitude flora. Problem solved. Zealot or truth seekers? Burn or No burn. Since that time, adequate verbiage has been added mostly by forest persons that favored some notion of order within a governmental system. Science or Political?

    Sustained Yield – in an acre of land naturally via soil properties and weather produce 10 trees (ex) per year in conjunction with the natural shorter sub specie brushes, bushes and grass, flora of all kinds has a terminal-life span. What grows must die. Trees die via nature. Harvesting may with truthful management reduce accumulations of the 10,000-100,000 hour fuels. And at the coincidentally same time modify those geographic convenient logging terrain areas into a modified fuel break. Nature does not create fuel breaks via prescription. Physics drives the natural fire path. Animals and bugs of all sizes are affected immediately by fire. The little ones that do not hide in the 100,000 hour fuels are all consumed in the fire path. The big ones tend to hot foot it elsewhere.

    Yellowstone fires of 1988, with no version of sustain yield, was manageable only in the very earliest days of the fire origins. There is a break-over point of No-return within fire management that compounds Logistical considerations of man and his attempt to suppress a very large fire. In these fires the effort by man was to herd a finger or section of a very large fire. Weather suppressed the 88 Yellowstone fires.

    An overview of early National Forest and fire by Robert Cermak, “Fire in the Forest, a History of fire control on the National Forests in California 1898-1956″ sets part of the stage for current politicalization of forest management. Burn or No burn. Harvest or No harvest. Fire fuel loading is one of the keys on a large fire management key ring. There are fire weather days that man will not be effective in any form..

  33. Don Bennett says:

    My son-in-law is in the WY Air National Guard. His unit, the 153rd AW based in Cheyenne, was activated for firefighting in Colorado. The WYANG is one of several in the nation that is trained to use the MAFFS (Modular Airborne Fire Fighting System) system in their C-130’s.

    After getting the MAFFS units in the planes (apparently two planes) and checked out, the squadron (AS-187, I have the hat!) deployed to Peterson AFB near Colorado Springs. The planes couldn’t fly on Monday as the winds and smoke were too bad but my son-in-law’s plane got in eight drops on the Waldo Canyon fire near Colorado Springs on Tuesday before their plane broke. Apparently two of the engines need repair; possibly from damage caused by the heat and smoke of the fire. I’ll find out later what happened.

    Here’s the story of the unit being activated: http://www.dvidshub.net/news/90517/wyoming-air-guard-maffs-activated-assist-rocky-mountain-area

    And here’s some video of the fire retardant drops the planes were making on Tuesday: http://www.dvidshub.net/video/147813/maffs-colorado-june-26-2012

    I’m thinking my son-in-law will be busy fighing fires for the rest of the summer and even into the fall.

    Don Bennett
    Evanston, WY

  34. Don says:

    Interesting read:
    http://www.gazette.com/articles/obama-140889-edge-rages.html

    The Obama Admin has been working diligently to reduce the ability of the Forrest Service to fight fires.

  35. Think of all the carbon thats beeing created and released, Al Gore should be horified.
    The only brightside to this, all the seeds that will be released and the new growth.

  36. ann r says:

    In 2008 we had thousands of lighting strikes in N. Cal., and fires all over as a result. Unfortunately, a lot of the forest is classified as “wilderness” which means you can’t use really efficient methods of fire fighting, you can’t construct fire breaks, and the fuel load is tons per acre over what it should be for a healthy forest. Much of the overload is due to lawsuits filed by green groups preventing any kind of harvesting or even thinning of brush. Consequently much of the land was charred with very hot temps to bare earth. I don’t know if the greens have been similarly active in CO, but I would bet they have, with similar results.

  37. Ted says:

    Here is a slice of pie why the West burns as Obama fiddles and play another 18 holes.

    How Obama bureaucrats fueled Western wildfires

    The Obama administration’s neglect of the federal government’s aerial tanker fleet He finally acts: Too little, too late, too fake.
    Ten years ago, the feds had a fleet of 44 firefighting planes. Today, the number is down to nine for the entire country.
    Last summer, Obama’s National Forest Service cancelled a key federal contract with Sacramento-based Aero Union just as last season’s wildfires were raging. Aero Union had supplied eight vital air tankers to Washington’s dwindling aerial firefighting fleet.
    Two weeks later, the company closed down, and 60 employees lost their jobs. Aero Union had been a leader in the business for a half-century.
    As California enters into the fire season. Our aerial firefighting fleet is already seriously undercapitalized.” Both the U.S. Government Accountability Office and the Department of Agriculture’s Inspector General have been critical of the Forest Service’s handling of the matter. All of this has been known to the Obama administration since it took the reins in 2009.
    Nine months after Lungren’s warning, the deadly High Park fire in Larimer County, Colo., claimed a grandmother’s life, destroyed 189 homes and scorched nearly 60,000 acres. Arizona, New Mexico, Washington and Wyoming also have battled infernos this summer.
    After months of dire red flags from a diverse group, President Obama finally signed emergency legislation last week to expedite the contracting process. Obama will borrow planes from Canada and provide $24 million for new aerial tanker contracts.
    BUT THE MONEY WONT COME TILL 2013
    But the money won’t come until next year, and the dog-and-pony rescue moves will not result in any immediate relief.
    “It’s nice, but this problem isn’t fixed with a stroke of the pen,” former Forest Service official and bomber pilot Tony Kern told the Denver Post this week. “You need to have the airplanes available now.”
    Veteran wildland firefighter and blogger Bill Gabbert of WildfireToday.com adds: “The USFS should have awarded contracts for at least 20 additional air tankers, not 7.”
    Imagine if Obama’s Forest Service had been a private company. White House eco-radicals would be rushing to place their “boots on the necks” of the bureaucrats who made the fateful decision to put an experienced aerial tanker firm out of business as wildfires raged and the available rescue fleet shrunk.
    “The Obama administration is scrambling now to help ensure the Forest Service has the air assets it needs to fight the ongoing inferno,” Colorado free-market environmental watchdog Sean Paige reported at MonkeyWrenchingAmerica.com last week. “But the crisis is bound to raise questions not just about whether the cancelled contract created additional weaknesses and vulnerabilities, but about what the administration has been doing over the past three summers to shore-up the service’s air fleet.”
    Where there’s smoke swirling over Team Obama there are usually flames of incompetence, cronyism and ideological zealotry at the source. The ultimate rescue mission? Evacuating Obama’s wrecking crew from the White House permanently. November can’t come soon enough.

    http://www.humanevents.com/2012/06/20/michelle-malkin-how-obama-bureaucrats-fueled-western-wildfires/

  38. Austin says:

    This season is worse that 2002 as we’ve had ten more years to build up fuel. The continuing suppression of the natural fire regime in the forests in the US is the primary cause of these catastrophic fires, not the weather.

  39. CCIS says:

    I would not doubt that part of the problem is the beetle damage – an epidemic that is purported to be over, that left a whole lot of standing firewood. Of course, I’m sure they can tie the beetle epidemic to GW somehow as well.

    If by “they”, you mean people like Jeff Mitton, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Colorado (Boulder) who has studied the mountain pine beetle for more than 30 years, the answer is yes. Warmer winters mean fewer beetles die from the cold; the beetles come out of hibernation 6 weeks to 2 months earlier due to earlier springs and thus consume far more wood. They are also reproducing up to 2x per year, rather than just once.

    The epidemic is not over, it’s just that the beetles have killed so much timber that in some areas there is little left for them to attack, since as much as 70% of the trees are dead.

  40. SteveSadlov says:

    RE: In our arid climate, there are only supposed to be 4-5 Ponderosa pines per acre yet we now have many more.

    =======================================

    I must wonder the extent to which the flood of transplants has resulted in subtle (or not so subtle) pressure on the Forest Service as well as local wildland management agencies to maintain higher densities? The vast majority of transplants hail from humid climates – the notions of “wildland aesthetics” are based on Eastern forests.

  41. sergeiMK says:

    http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2012/06/colorado_wildfires_force_32000.html
    Colorado Springs Fire Chief Richard Brown said “many, many homes” were saved by firefighters. And Hickenlooper, who spoke with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano Tuesday, told anxious residents that “We have all the support of the U.S. government. We have all the support of the state of Colorado. And we want everybody here to know that.”

    Whatever happened to the “we don’t want taxes, we don’t want central government”?
    Where are the private firefighters? still waiting for the cheque to clear?

  42. Dear CCIS,

    What warming????

    Check NCDC Climate At A Glance. Average winter temperatures in the Northern Rockies and Plains Region have fallen 0.62°F over the last 20 years. And their data is biased upwards by UHIE and station dropout, so the real (hide the) decline is more than that.

    Your boyo hypothesizes that rising temps have caused bark beetle outbreaks. But temps have DECREASED.

    That pretty much shoots that hypothesis in the foot. Fatal wound. Hypothesis disproved QED.

    Of course, given the wonders of post-normal sigh-ents and heavily subsidized climatosis, it makes perfect cents to ignore the empirical data and leap to a totally illogical conclusion. Algore is smiling under all that lard.

  43. CCIS says:

    Dear Mike Dubrasich,

    Let’s look at actual research on snowpack and temperature in the Rockies rather than average mean temperatures across a large area, shall we? What matters is the temperatures where beetles are an issue, specifically at higher elevations. From a 2005 paper on this topic: “Recent studies have shown substantial declines in snow water equivalent (SWE) over much of the
    western United States in the last half century, as well as trends toward earlier spring snowmelt and peak spring streamflows. These trends are influenced both by interannual and decadal-scale climate variability, and also by temperature trends at longer time scales that are generally consistent with observations of global warming over the twentieth century.” A number of other studies with similar conclusions are referenced, summarized as follows: “These studies both show strong downward trends in 1 April SWE over most of the domain from about 1950 onward. Mote et al. (2005) also corroborated observed SWE trends by comparing simulated and observed SWE trends from 1950 to 1997 and used correlations between 1 April SWE and winter
    temperatures to show that temperature trends were a major driver of these observed trends, particularly at moderate elevations with relatively warm winter temperatures.”
    http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/JCLI3538.1

    Nice try, though. But try to come up with a replacement for the standard vanilla demonizing of Al Gore. That is so 2007.

  44. just some guy says:

    I am in Denver.

    a.t.m., we are getting a much needed dose of rain and I can hear some thunder off in the distance.

    Hopefully they are getting the same up near the fires.

  45. A Resident of Colorado Springs says:

    I live in Colorado Springs. We only got a few seconds of sprinkles – no real rain so far.

    What is burning is mostly scrub and brush which is not what I’ve heard the pine beetle likes. We’re having a fire because someone either set it or was careless. Waldo Canyon and where the fire has gotten to is very rough terrain. The winds have been erratic and the fire has gone in multiple directions. Experienced fire fighters have expressed frustration with this fire’s behavior.

    Maybe forrestry policies have made things worse, but given how dry it has been, the question has been more of where will fire break out and not if.

  46. Dear CCIS, if that’s your real name, and if it is you must be a robot from Star Wars,

    Citing some warmista nonsense doth not make science, dude. I totally exploded your silly bark beetle warm winter hypothesis, and you have no retort. So you change the subject.

    But let’s slash and burn your beetle story again, for fun. Everywhere there are pine trees, there are pine beetles. Everywhere. They go together. Pine trees are found from southern Mexico to northern Canada, across a huge range of climates. So are pine beetles.

    You want people to believe a tiny change in winter temps in one place causes an outbreak because beetles are soooooo sensitive. But they aren’t. Otherwise how could they survive and thrive across the length of North America?

    And as I pointed out with DATA, winters haven’t gotten warmer. Bang, kapow, your theory bites the dust.

    Ain’t real science wonderful.

    Now to your new theory, snow water equivalents. The FACT is SWE’s have neither increased or decreased over the last 100 years of measurement in the Northern Rockies, Oregon and Washington Cascades, and the Sierra Nevada according to real studies of the DATA.

    You cite Phil Mote et al. That paper has been trashed so often it’s buried deep in the landfill at the gooey level. They cherry-picked the range of years. Why not use them all? Because they pre-concluded what they wanted too, and yamelled the data accordingly. We have had the deepest, longest-lasting snowpacks recently. This year the snow was still 300 inches deep on Mt. Ranier in June! April snotels set records this year. Mote’s alleged trend is a quacking fraud.

    And none of that has anything to do with bark beetles, your original warmista claim! Which, btw, has nothing to do with the fire. Dead trees have no crowns, no fine fuels aloft. It’s brush that’s burning. Catch a clue!

    Get back jack to your Agenda 21 IPCC SUV-hating Gorecal Rio Stumpit Copenfrozen commune and cry your crocodile tears there. Nobody around here buys your claptrap. This is WUWT, not McKibbenville.

  47. Larry Ledwick (hotrod) says:

    It is not only the forest areas that are having fire problems this year.
    These fire conditions are not unusual just rare.

    http://www.julesburgadvocate.com/ci_20951016/last-chance-fire-second-largest-colorado-this-summer

    If you look at historical records there are frontier time tales of similar plains wild fires running on miles wide fronts for days across the high plains in the 1800′s.

    At the time the Flagstaff fire started just west of boulder it was 99 deg F and 8% relative humidity. Later in the after noon we had a brief rain shower which raised the humidity all the way up to 16%.

    Folks from the wetter parts of the country simply cannot comprehend how fire fuels behave in those fire conditions. Add a bit of wind and you have an unstoppable fire front, all you can do is find a safe zone and wait for the fire front to pass and defend your safe zone.

    In the late 1980′s shortly after the Yellowstone fires I was gathering information on wild fire development for the Colorado Office of Emergency management. At the time the emergency management community knew with absolute certainty that we were due for this sort of fire season it was only a question of when it would happen. At the time I talked to a Forest Ranger in the Golden Office who had done fire studies and he said that the front range areas near Denver burn on average about every 75 – 80 years. I then asked him (about 1990) when they last burned and he responded “about 75-80 years ago”.

    This is no surprise to anyone who has studied the historical record of wild fire in the high plains and mountains of the west. It has nothing to do with climate change or global warming. It is a natural cycle of renewal that is inevitable in an ecosystem composed of plants that are adapted to fire conditions and “require” periodic burns, to be healthy and to kill off their predators (pine beetles and other biological competitors).

    The lodge pole pine which is ubiquitous in this area cannot seed without fire to open the pine cones. Without fire the cones are so heavily resin coated that little seed ever gets a chance to grow new trees.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodgepole_Pine

    This is as natural and predictable as a big earthquake on the San Andreas fault system.
    Everyone knows it is going to happen, the only missing info is when.

    Larry

  48. Mark Luhman says:

    I live in Arizona and got to watch the Sunflower progress this spring, it burnt fast and spread rapidly until it got to where past fires had been. Surprise surprise the fire slowed down and it ceased being a problem.

    I grew up in and Minnesota right along where eastern forest ended, unlike the western forest in an eastern forest if a tree fall down in a normal eastern climate it quickly rots on the ground. Unlike the western forest where a fallen tree will remain for years as dry fuel. In the western forest, fire is a normal part of the forest, past fire suppression has allowed the fuel to build. On top of that past forestry practices have also made for a perfect storm instead of patches of trees of different ages and density we now have forest over grown and to many trees the same age for miles. When fire comes it has lots of fuel and mile and mile it can go unimpeded. Like it did last year here in Arizona

    I also remember my grandfather house which was in a jack pine grove there was only one tree within a hundred feet of his house and the grass was always cut short. He was prepared for a fire even though fire never came.

  49. A. Scott says:

    Sadly – and amazingly – the fire has reached and over run entire neighborhood on the west side of Colorado Springs:

  50. A. Scott says:

    I counted over 300 homes IN the city of Colorado Springs within the fire footprint as of 4:39 MDT this afternoon.

  51. McComberBoy says:

    Wake up people. There are a significant number of people in the US Forest Service and in various state forestry services such as the California Division of Forestry and Fire Protection who believe in the same Gaia principles as the climatologists and catastrophic warmistas. If the reason for rising numbers of forest fires was fire suppression and forest fire fighting practices, the data could not show that the biggest fire in North America all came before 1920. Look at the list from the 19th and early 20th century. From Forest History.org
    http://www.foresthistory.org/Education/Curriculum/activity/activ9/Wildfire%20Timeline.pdf

    > October 1825: Maine/Canada Miramichi Fire: After a summer of sparse rain, sporadic wildfires in Maine and the Canadian province of New Brunswick reached disastrous levels. Strong winds spurred the fires, which burned through forests and settlements in Maine and along the Miramichi River in Canada. Among the worst wildfires in North American history, the Miramichi fire burned 3 million acres, killed 160 people and left 15,000 homeless.

    > 1849 Siletz River, Oregon Siletz fire burned 800,000 acres

    > 1853 Oregon Yaquina Fire burned 484,000 acres

    > 1865 Oregon Silverton Fire burned 988,000 acres

    > October 1871 Wisconsin/Michigan Peshtigo Fire burned more than 3.7 million acres in Wisconsin and Michigan. Federal authorities estimate at least 1,500 people died in the fire. Eight hundred died in Peshtigo, Wisconsin alone—nearly half the town’s population. Despite the fire’s extensive devastation and the fact that it killed more people than any fire since, the Peshtigo Fire was overshadowed at the time by the Great Chicago Fire, which began the same day.

    > September 1881 Michigan Thumb Fire located in the Thumb area of Michigan burned 1,000,000 acres in less than a day; 282 lives were lost; damage estimated at $2,347,000.

    > September 1894 Minnesota Hinckley Fire After one of the driest summers on record, small blazes converged to form a firestorm near Hinckley, Minnesota. The flames rushed through the city and surrounded towns in a matter of hours, burning 350,000 acres and killing 418 people.

    > September 1902 Washington/Oregon Yacolt Fire The fire burned across more than 1,000,000 acres in Washington and Oregon. 38 lives were lost.

    > April 1903 New York AdirondackFire burned 637,000 acres.

    > August 1910 Idaho/Montana Great Fire of 1910 Over two days and nights, several small blazes, hurricane-force winds and dry forests combined in Idaho and Montana to form what became known as the Great Fire of 1910. The flames burned about 3 million acres, making it one of the biggest wildfires ever recorded in North America, and killed 86 people. A forester later wrote that the fire was “fanned by a tornadic wind so violent that the flames flattened out ahead, swooping to earth in great darting curves, truly a veritable red demon from hell.”

    The US Forest Service decision to fight wild fires was directly based on events and experiences during the ‘Great Fire of 1910′. How did all these huge fires, unmatched in current events, ever get started if the fault lies with practices instituted after the worst fires were long cold? The arguments being put forward are no different in substance from those of the warmists who claim hottest, worst, wettest when the historical record shows quite the opposite.

    Houses burn in forest fires because recommended defensible spaces around houses are not created and actively maintained. Because do good policies to save trees do not allow fuel to be removed from around buildings. Because people are stupid enough to build a house in the woods and then cry the blues when the woods catch on fire. Because people don’t think they’ll ever need a foam system because there hasn’t been a fire where they live for 150 years.

    While it may be true that slow cool fires are a good thing, there can be no slow cool fires until the forests are cleaned of the fuel load that has accumulated, in part because of the criminal notion that wood burning in the forest is somehow holy, but wood put to use by humans is evil on a scale that rivals the holocaust or the killing fields of Cambodia.

    As Dr. Bill Wattenburg put it in a published essay (no current link):
    “…the fuel load of brush and excessive small trees on the floor of our forests today is so high that any fire generates flames that ignite the limbs of all big trees. Each big tree on fire becomes an enormous torch that ignites all its neighbors. An unstoppable firestorm soon develops. The flames are so hot that every living thing is destroyed. This is not Nature’s plan.

    Many self-anointed “fire ecologists” who have taken over our national parks and forests think this is just great. They stand by and rub their hands with glee as they get orgasmic satisfaction from watching Nature’s most devastating force of fire wipe out our forests. They revel in the thought that man’s past sins for harvesting the forests are being cleansed by the fury of fire. They are never punished for their stupidity. They never pay for the damage to the public’s property. However, their urban cousins who dance a jig behind a fire line and gleefully watch a apartment house burn are called criminal pyromaniacs. Wildfires today kill all living things in the forest, all big trees and all animals. With no vegetation or trees left to hold the topsoil, the rains wash the soil down into the canyons and clog the streams and fisheries with silt. The big trees and the natural forest are gone for hundreds of years.”

    Rant off/

    Everyone needs to stop with the “believe the expert without critical thought or research” and be as skeptical of the burn down the forests in the name of saving the forest crowd as you are of Mann or Hansen and all the rest.

  52. Jack Simmons says:

    Larry Ledwick (hotrod) says:
    June 27, 2012 at 7:19 pm
    It is not only the forest areas that are having fire problems this year.
    These fire conditions are not unusual just rare.

    In the late 1980′s shortly after the Yellowstone fires I was gathering information on wild fire development for the Colorado Office of Emergency management. At the time the emergency management community knew with absolute certainty that we were due for this sort of fire season it was only a question of when it would happen. At the time I talked to a Forest Ranger in the Golden Office who had done fire studies and he said that the front range areas near Denver burn on average about every 75 – 80 years. I then asked him (about 1990) when they last burned and he responded “about 75-80 years ago”.

    Larry, very good comments. Enjoyed them.

    Every time I drive I-70 to Glenwood Springs, I shudder when we pass the western side of the approach to the Eisenhower tunnel. There are endless runs of pine beetle killed trees in every direction. I am moved every time, to comment to my wife it is only a matter of time before lightning or a fool sets the whole mountain range on fire. It very well could be this summer. We haven’t even gotten to the hot and dry time of the year.

    It is very sad to see what is happening to those neighborhoods in Colorado Springs and Fort Collins.

    Last night I was struck at how quickly the Colorado Springs fire got going. At first, I thought the TV reports were commenting on the already existing fires in Boulder and Fort Collins. Up until then, Colorado Springs was just a side show.

    There are reports of arsonists in the mountains, which also provides another level of insecurity in the hills. A close friend of mine has been evacuated twice in recent times and people in his area are very anxious.

  53. Smokey says:

    Jack Simmons,

    This may interest you. The Japanese were even planning it in WWII.

  54. Jim Tierney says:

    What planet does interstellar bill live on? If he has ever been anywhere near a bush fire, as we call them in Australia, he would know that they do rage, extremely so. Feek very sorry for the people of Colorado Springs; it is a beautiful part of the world. Pray god all will be calm soon.

    Jim Tierney,

  55. the_other_steve_jobs says:

    i’ve been reading WUWT for nearly 4 years… this is my first post.

    Not sure what to say but that nothing changes in my mind as my home is threatened…

    we still don’t have nearly enough data to know anything other than that its really hot this year. As opposed to a few years ago when the winter was so bitterly cold that i didn’t go outside for months in Colorado.

    Its always changing. All the time.

    regardless of what happens to my home – He has taken far too good care of me and my family, and the climate changes *all* *the* *time*.

    i am insanely blessed to live in a place where, even if my home is razed, i know that eventually, everything will be back to normal.

    And that is an amazing and comforting realization, is it not?

  56. A. Scott says:

    As noted – the fires burning now – and the recent fires since early 2000′s in the same area – are not “cleansing” or “therapeutic” burns for the forest. Thanks to the abject idiocy of the treethuggers and the protect all the creature-ists – who have gutted all proper forest management practices – these fires are sterilizing fires. They do not encourage new growth as they have so much high quality fuel they burn everything in their path – and with such intensity even the soil is sterilized.

    I spent many days in those same exact forests since the early 2000′s. I was literally in the forest – within a short distance of the fire – during the Hayman fire. I spent many years visiting the areas of the Buffalo Creek fires. There was little left after those devastating fires. The Forest Service had to fly in massive crews to literally replant and then apply ground cover to entire mountains. The area of the Buffalo Creek fire was in many places largely a moonscape for year after and did extensive flood damage downstream when it did rain.

    These forests need help. They need active regular harvesting to reduce the canopy so the forest can thrive. They need dead timber removed. And they need carefully managed burns – when it is safer to do so – to reduce the risks.

    The spotted owl idiots spent decades fighting to “protect” the alleged spotted owl habitat. Preventing any and all management practices in the 100′s of thousands of acres in AZ. And then one day it finally caught fire – and destroyed virtually ALL of the spotted owl habitat.

    Yet I imagine not a one of those treehuggers would admit they were wrong – would admit that their actions caused the destruction of, rather than protection of, the habitat they claimed to protect.

  57. Ric Werme says:

    Here’s a report from the national director of CoCoRaHS, the Community Collaborative Rain, Hail and Snow Network. I’m sure Nolan won’t mind me posting it here.

    While CoCoRaHS was formed in the wake of canyon flooding due to rain that was logged in no NWS rain records, the network can show current disasters from regions of missing daily reports. A new sort of proxy?

    Subject: CoCoRaHS — More fire, some rain
    From: Nolan Doesken
    Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:26:55 -0600 (Thu 01:26 EDT)
    To: CoCoRaHS Mailing List

    Dear CoCoRaHS participants + friends and family

    Many of you have written this week as news of our Colorado catastrophic
    wildfires spreads. Thanks so much for your caring thoughts and
    prayers. Here is an update.

    Wildfire roared into parts of Colorado Springs yesterday afternoon
    (about 100 miles south of here) and the CoCoRaHS family has once again
    been directly affected. Comparing the CoCoRaHS maps for El Paso County,
    Colorado from yesterday to today, areas of the map north and west from
    Colorado Springs have gone blank. We have seen this before — with the
    2011 tornadoes and floods and also with fire. When the rainfall maps go
    blank we know people are hurting. That hits home for all of us. Over
    32,000 area residents in and near Colorado Springs have had to flee the
    fires, and plenty more have done so voluntarily. It is likely that some
    of our volunteers may have lost homes. Last night, Boulder Colorado was
    threatened. Today more fires have ignited. This has been an incredible
    nightmare. Some of you have experience this at other times and in other
    places.

    Here around Fort Collins our huge (nearly 90,000 acres) wild fire has
    settled down a bit. It is still burning but now it is higher in the
    mountains and threatening fewer homes. Still, hundreds of families
    remain evacuated. The Larimer County maps continue to show large blank
    areas where observers once reported — just 3 weeks ago. These are
    indeed terrible disasters — similar to Texas wildfires last year and
    other fires this year and previously. With persisting heat and drought
    (parts of Colorado saw temperatures of 110 or higher for the 4-5th day
    in a row.) we are not out of the woods. But for our family (back from
    our Upper Michigan vacation), we are safe, our home and animals are
    fine, and the worst inconvenience has been the periods of smoke, intense
    heat and lots of ash in my rain gauge.

    Two nights ago I experienced something that is still giving me goose
    bumps. I worked late and drove home about sunset. To get to and from
    work I have to drive past the Incident Command post for our fire (called
    the “High Park fire”). It’s just down the road from our building here
    on the foothills campus of Colorado State University. As the fire
    spread, firefighting crews increased and the National Guard joined the
    effort. The Incident Command post grew to become a huge and noisy tent
    city illuminated day and night. It has been hard to concentrate here
    with all the activity and with episodes of smoke. Of particular
    interest were the large helicopters shuttling back and forth —
    hovering while reloading fire retardant and then racing off to protect
    nearby homes. Helicopter activity peaked each time the fire approached
    residential areas. At last things were quieting down as the active fire
    zone moved farther away. Driving home I passed what used to be a large,
    open pasture but now it was the heliport, the heavy equipment staging
    area, the portable shower and portapotty area, the mess tents and the
    security check point. Beyond that were tents set up with t-shirt sales,
    refreshments and even portable massage tables to bring some relief to
    tired and soar firefighters. Then, to my surprise, the road was lined
    with people — young and old — holding up signs and cheering
    exuberantly for each truck as it returned from the fire to the camp. As
    I drove past, dozens of large trucks were coming back to camp —
    responding to the cheers by honking and sounding sirens. It seemed
    surreal — a slight taste of what it might have been like when our young
    men returning to the U.S. after the end of WW2. I won’t forget this.

    The smell of rain — the glorious rainbow

    Today, we were surprised by rain. We had thought that nature had
    perhaps given up on that part of the hydrologic cycle. Several showers
    moved in dropping temperatures from the 90s back into the 70s and
    bringing the smell that only fresh rain can bring. The winds then
    shifted and blew down from the mountains. Instead of the smell of pines
    – it was that smell you get when you douse a camp fire with a bucket of
    water. For miles, the forest smelled of wet ashes. The National
    Weather Service quickly issued a flash flood warning. Even though
    rainfall was light, runoff from recently burned slopes can bring down
    ash, mud and much debris. And then, as the day ended, the sun broke
    through the clouds and there was the brightest, boldest, beautifulest
    rainbow I’ve ever seen.

    Speaking of the Hydrologic Cylce

    With everything that has been going on, I totally forgot to tell you
    about our new CoCoRaHS video about the Water Cycle. I hope you can
    spare just 6 minutes to watch this video. Then tell me what you think.
    Here is the link

    If you like it, tell others — especially teachers in your community
    that get to teach kids about the water cycle.

    Reporting when it’s dry

    I realize that there is no great joy or motivation to get up, measure
    and report when there is nothing in your gauge. But as the spreading
    drought conditions across much of the country are keenly pointing out,
    it is VERY important to know that it did not rain. So I encourage you,
    if you can spare those few extra seconds — please report your zeros.

    Thanks for Drought Impact Reports

    That’s one of the optional data forms we provide. We’re happy to report
    that more of you have begun using this report to describe the impacts
    you may be observing. These impact reports go directly to the National
    Drought Mitigation Center in Lincoln, Nebraska and are used to help
    interpret the severity of drought across the country.
    http://droughtreporter.unl.edu/ If you are unusually dry in your area
    and the dryness is beginning to (or continuing to ) cause problems,
    please tell us about it by submitting and impact report. Thank you for
    the extra effort. It is appreciated.

    Less Drought in Florida

    It wasn’t long ago that Florida was also dealing with drought. But now
    with two back to back tropical storms this month, drought is a thing of
    the past — quickly replaced (in some areas) with excess water.
    CoCoRaHS volunteers again came through with excellent reports of
    exceptional rains. Hats off to those of you in those storms that had
    the presence of mind to go out and empty your gauges midway to make sure
    they did not overflow. Yesterday, two of our volunteers in Wakulla
    County, FL (southwest of Tallahassee near the the Gulf Coast) each
    measured more than 16″ of rain in a day. Some of your reports have even
    ended up on CNN, the Weather Channel and other national news. So if you
    ever wonder “Is anyone looking at my data?” the answer is always a
    resounding “Yes!”

    CoCoRaHS Blog

    For several years, Chris Spears, a highly motivated CoCoRaHS volunteer
    from the Denver area, maintained the CoCoRaHS Blog. After years of
    meteorological blogging, Chris is taking a break. But we’ve decided to
    keep the blog going. Several people will be helping including our
    CoCoRaHS state coordinator in Illinois, Steve Hilberg. We’ll also try
    to add some of my e-mails to the blog — and maybe add a few pictures
    so you can see our farm, animals, weather etc. So check in
    periodically by clicking the little blog icon on our home page.
    http://cocorahs.blogspot.com/ New posts will begin soon.

    Goslings are more fun than geese

    Our motherly hen ended up hatching several goslings — 6 of which
    survived. Instead of all hatching at the same time, they were spread
    out over a couple of weeks. Now we have big goslings, medium sized and
    small — all in the same family. Since the hen hatched them the adult
    geese at first were not interested. But gradually they decided that
    those youngsters belonged to them. The hen was reluctant at first but
    eventually turned over the parenting to the geese. Wow, and I thought
    papa goose used to be mean! Now he’ll defend those little guys from
    everything. If I so much make a gesture towards touching a gosling, I’m
    toast.

    Thanks again for your concern

    I greatly appreciate all the message of support and the offers to help
    in these times of traumatic wildfires in Colorado. We’re doing OK but
    it will be a long road to recovery for some of our CoCoRaHS family. If
    any of you affected by fire have stories you need to share about your
    experiences, please let me know.

    Have a great summer. May it rain gently — often enough.

    Nolan Doesken
    Colorado State University

  58. benfrommo says:

    Here in North central Florida, we had a large fire in the Government maintained lands on the Florida/Georgia border back in April that “raged” for about a month. The issue with fires is almost non-existant on private lands in this state as people maintain their land for the most part. Of course, with the drought over and the fires being a thing of the past for this part of Florida no mention is being made of how this happened or why.

    The truth is often easier to see when you just apply common sense. The Government does not maintain federal lands well, and there are plenty of home-owners out west who do not do so because I would hazzard to guess they either own too much land or they can’t handle the land they do own. Forests require maintenance such as getting rid of shrubs, clearing dead trees/limbs, etc.

    Of course fires are much more prolific in the west due to that reason…with so much more land and with so fewer people living out there fires are much more common. That is just the way things are. It does not even take that large of a drought when so long has elapsed since the last fire…

    But that is besides the point. We have known since the 70′s how to control fires and make them manageable, but the Government is mostly to blame on this score as they do not maintain the large amounts of land under their control properly…

    Perhaps it is just the amount of funding they have. Perhaps its the fact they have too much land to maintain. Whatever the case, perhaps its time to sell land to the public in auctions and stop hoarding land they can not even maintain.

  59. Larry Hotrod says: The lodge pole pine which is ubiquitous in this area cannot seed without fire to open the pine cones. Without fire the cones are so heavily resin coated that little seed ever gets a chance to grow new trees.

    Wrongo, Larry. Lodgepole pine can and does reproduce without fire. Plenty of Pinus contorta on the coast and all over that generated without fire. That fire-cone myth is Disneyesque. Think about it. The species is 100 million years old. If it needed such special conditions to germinate, lodgepole never would have made it past go, let alone the Ice Ages.

    Larry Hotrod says: This is no surprise to anyone who has studied the historical record of wild fire in the high plains and mountains of the west. It has nothing to do with climate change or global warming. It is a natural cycle of renewal that is inevitable in an ecosystem composed of plants that are adapted to fire conditions and “require” periodic burns, to be healthy and to kill off their predators (pine beetles and other biological competitors)

    Wrongo, Larry. Everyone (with any discernment) who has studied historical fire in the West has discovered that man, not nature, has been the master of fire during the entire Holocene. Anthropogenic (human-set) fire has been the dominant force shaping vegetation every since the ice melted.

    The “natural fire regime” and “fire-adapted plants” rant is another pre-Darwin Disneyesque narrative that has nothing to do with reality.

    Man is the caretaker of nature. Man controls fire. It is human choice that led to this and other fire catastrophes. Man chose to let the fuels build up. Man chose to eschew firebreaks. Man chose to be inadequately prepared for eventual holocausts of his own making.

    We have become impotent pawns of the watermelons, allowing mythical narratives to supplant our heritage, common sense, and responsible stewardship. Big Brother set aside the landscape to build up fuels because the watermelons whined about how “natural” that would be. But their “natural” is a myth, and the direct result is tragedy on massive scale.

    Junk science leads to junk policies leads to extreme disaster. Count on it.

  60. Paul K2 says:

    LA Times actually talked to a forestry expert…

    The reason? Modern firefighting technology has meant fewer fires. Fuel to feed massive blazes has built up. And, Fulé said, climate change has brought warming conditions over the last couple of decades — meaning longer fire seasons, starting early in the spring and extending late into the fall.

    Even if rain and snow amounts remain the same, he said, warmer temperatures mean more evaporation, drying out the landscape. Individual drought years increase the risk of huge fires: “This winter in Colorado, it was quite dry.”

    And the future looks only drier and warmer.

    “The predictions climatologists are developing for the 21st century don’t look any better,” Fulé said. With plentiful fuel and warming conditions, super fires likely will continue to ignite.

    The fallout will include “loss of life, loss of homes and communities and infrastructure,” as well as long-term effects such as soil erosion, flooding, and the invasion of exotic plant species with the death of native species.
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-super-fires-20120627,0,2411143.story

  61. Larry Ledwick (hotrod) says:

    Wrongo, Larry. Everyone (with any discernment) who has studied historical fire in the West has discovered that man, not nature, has been the master of fire during the entire Holocene. Anthropogenic (human-set) fire has been the dominant force shaping vegetation every since the ice melted.

    Yes and the frequent fires created an ecosystem over thousands of years, that is well adapted to and dependent on fire for its normal life cycle. I never said fire had to be naturally caused!What I said was that the periodic fire regime was the norm in this area and anyone that thinks they can live in the wild land urban interface without dealing with fire is an idiot.

    Wrongo, Larry. Lodgepole pine can and does reproduce without fire. Plenty of Pinus contorta on the coast and all over that generated without fire. That fire-cone myth is Disneyesque.

    Yes the lodgepole pine family that does have subspecies that drop seed when mature (murrayana ) which is coastal not in the Rockies and do not depend heavily on fire to reseed!
    The other subspecies “can” seed without fire but not efficiently.

    Please read the whole comment and spend a moment thinking about what is said? I didnot say the lodge pole pine “could not reseed without fire”. I said its seed distribution is very inefficient without fire. Specifically I said:

    Without fire the cones are so heavily resin coated that little seed ever gets a chance to grow new trees.

    For those needing translation, that says, that under non-fire conditions only a very small number of seeds ever find their way to a fertile location to take root and grow. Most are eaten by squirrels etc. Occasional random seeds that do fall to the forest floor cannot germinate with a high success rate because the lodge pole pine grows in very dense thickets where the faster growing trees shade out and kill the slower growing trees.

    As a result new seedlings even if they germinate will never see sunlight unless by plain stupid luck they happen to fall in an opening caused by blow down or beetle kill or some other random event that forms a small island of sun lit forest floor.

    On the contrary after a fire event, the seeding is prolific from the now open cones and the trees grow like grass, hundreds of them growing so close together you can hardly walk between them. Over time some of these trees out compete their neighbors, and the weak trees are shaded and stunted by the faster growing trees that dominate the stand, leaving lots of standing dead wood or wind fall on the forest floor.

    See Routt National Forest blow down where a wind storm blew down over 20,000 acres of trees in a single event. http://www.denverpost.com/trailmix/ci_13264053

    Please get off you high horse and holster your “attitude problem” it does not wear well, and makes you look like the same sort of zealots you rant against.

    Larry

  62. Larry Ledwick (hotrod) says:

    Man is the caretaker of nature. Man controls fire. It is human choice that led to this and other fire catastrophes. Man chose to let the fuels build up. Man chose to eschew firebreaks. Man chose to be inadequately prepared for eventual holocausts of his own making.

    I agree entirely that is exactly what I was saying!
    Proper fire management of structures in the urban wild land interface is essential! without it this sort of fire is absolutely unavoidable and inevitable.

    We need to return to voluntary thinning of the forests. For example the fire wood permits and Christmas tree cut your own programs, knock off the silliness of no fire roads into the forest, and even blocking temporary used of mechanical equipment in and around the wilderness areas.

    Home owners need to be strongly encouraged to get the “pretty trees” away from their houses, build defensible barriers like driveways or concrete walls stone walkways etc. around their property, prohibit use of cedar shake shingles in wild land fire zones, etc.

    Larry

  63. Mike says:

    Who is this guy – Mike Dubrasich? He sure manages to rant holier than though. Perhaps he’s really a warmist troll sent along just to show us what a bunch of jerks they really are.

  64. Larry Ledwick (hotrod) says:

    Another side note for folks who do not live here in Colorado. Look closely at the burned over neighborhood fire pictures. Part of the problem was not wild fire to structure fire progression but structure to structure fire progression due to very close structure spacing in the neighborhood. The fire break distance in modern housing developments has gotten narrower and narrower as the zoning and builders try to squeeze two or 3 more lots into the development to increase profits/tax base.

    Those narrow fire break distances wall to wall on adjacent homes works if a fire response arrives to suppress ignition of the adjacent structure. If the fire is so massive that no active exposure protection is available for the adjacent home, it will with absolute certainty catch fire from the radiant heating from burning house next door.

    In older neighborhoods where there is larger spacing between homes a structure fire storm like this is less likely as the natural fire breaks between structures is large enough that only the structures directly ignited by burning vegetation are likely to burn.

    Some of these modern developments are built with homes just 10 – 15 foot separation between structures. If the wind is blowing the wrong way, you will have direct flame contact and fire transmission from structure to structure.

    The people in those neighborhoods need to hold their zoning people to account for allowing structures built with inadequate fire break separation between structures for this sort of situation where you cannot depend on active fire department intervention to prevent fire propagation.

    Larry

  65. A. Scott says:

    Its funny too – because if he’d bother to actually read what Larry is saying – he AGREES with Larry ….

  66. Mike says June 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm — Who is this guy – Mike Dubrasich?

    Dear Mike???,

    Unlike a lot of drive-by anonymous commenters here, I use my real name. I am not afraid to stand up and express my opinions in public as an adult citizen.

    Since you ask, I have been a practicing professional forester in Oregon since 1975. For the last 31 years I have been a private consulting forester specializing in forest biometrics.

    I have organized three different consulting firms and served as Oregon Chapter Chair of the Assoc of Consulting Foresters of America. I am author of “A Guide to Innovative Tree Farming in the Pacific Northwest.” In 2007 I founded the Western Institute for Study of the Environment, a non-profit educational website teaching environmental stewardship and caring for the land: http://westinstenv.org

    Last month I founded Give Us Our Land Back: http://giveusourlandback.org

    Give Us Our Land Back is a civic coalition spearheading the Petition to De-Federalize Oregon Lands. We seek redress of grievances as authorized by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Our grievances are:

    * Our public lands rightfully belong to the Counties of Oregon,

    * We deserve, indeed are Constitutionally guaranteed, the same rights and privileges afforded other States, and

    * Federal trusteeship over those lands has failed, damaging our environment, our economy, and our social integrity — including creating the conditions for catastrophic fire and exacerbating those fires through Let It Burn polices.

    The redress we seek is transfer of title and jurisdiction of Federal lands to the Counties in which those lands lie.

    Only through .local control can we stop the madness of “natural” holocausts which spread from unkempt, unmanaged Federal land onto private land and even into towns and cities. I have fought against junk science and junk policies for decades, including the Global Warming Hoax which is frequently used to justify and excuse wholly preventable disasters such as is occurring in Colorado today.

    I suggest that it would be helpful if you stood up, too, used your real name, and expressed your grievances with integrity and courage. Only through the united efforts of adults can we stop the destruction of our watersheds, forests, rangelands, towns and cities, and indeed our nation.

  67. Tim Mantyla says:

    @Larry Ledewick

    You’re not the only one who sees Mike Dubrasich as having an attitude problem. His kind of holier than thou, superior seeming ranting that belittles anyone with different knowledge, even if incorrect, is like watching Christian Bale going off on a production assistant – insufferable.

    Looks like a clear case of hubris with severe need of anger management and a lesson in the Golden Rule.

  68. Tim Mantyla says:

    @Mike Dubrasich

    I think most of us reading here get it that you seem to know a lot. That does not make you god or the smartest man in the world or even on this subject.

    I agree with larry ledwick that you have an attitude problem. There is no need to strike a holier than thou pose when others may have just as much or more knowledge than you.

    It bespeaks an inferiority complex, or some other problem relating to others that I hope you get some help for.

  69. Tim Mantyla says:

    In general I see a tendency for some to evince superiority over others with better arguments, more “correct” facts and an attitude of contempt.

    How vital, alive and important do feel afterward?
    Is “topping” others your life work?

    This is so high school, a wolf pack alpha male move. So you know more. So what. Share it with enjoyment and move on. Each of us can learn, each can teach.

  70. Dear Tim,

    Thank you for the advice.

    I’m sorry if you think that correcting destructive falsehoods perped by progressives is unseemly or betrays an anti-social attitude.

    The facts are that bogus science is responsible for massive disaster, and that it is better to correct the bogosity forcefully than to tolerate it.

    Mr. Ledwick quoted the Wikipedia. I have worked as a professional in the woods for nearly 40 years and so I know from experience that Wikipedia is wrong.

    More importantly, I know from long experience that such phrases as “fire adapted ecosystems” (Mr. Ledwick), “species dependency on fire” (Mr. Ledwick, Mike???), “fire suppression is the cause” (Mike Bromley the Kurd, Mike???, Ms. Ramirez, Mr. Parsons) “global warming causes forest fires” (Mark???, CISS) and similar slogans are part and parcel of the progressive propaganda used to justify massive conflagrations and the destruction of our environment, economy, and social well-being.

    When I hear or read those trite pseudoscience phrases, and know too well their source and use, I feel a strong remonstrance is in order.

    Would you go up to a homeowner whose home has just burned down and tell him that is just natural, we did it for the lodgepoles, the fire department’s attempt to put the fire out is to blame, from now on we won’t do any fire suppression at all, so don’t even try to rebuild because you’ll be burned out again?

    Is it wrong for me to point out the cruel stupidity in such remarks? Does my attitude offend?

    Or does the endless spate of catastrophic fires emanating from unkempt, unmanaged public land offend?

    Last summer the USFS firebombed 6,600 acres of old-growth spotted owl forest in my watershed in the name of Mother Nature. Dynamite balls launched from helicopters caused a firestorm with 100% mortality. Since Clinton was elected over 110 million acres have burned in the USA, many in Let It Burn fires — by policy, not by nature.

    So I do feel under attack. When the helicopters fly over your home dropping dynamite balls on your watershed, I bet you’ll feel under attack, too. When your watershed, forest, home, or town burns down, you might just have some reaction other than psychobabble.

    Maybe I can be gentler for you delicate liberals. “I’m so sorry that your contention fails to comport with the real world, but there there, have a cookie. Don’t get your feelings all in a twist. And pretty please, stop firebombing my forests.”

    Deconstruct that, Dr. Tim. Your progressive psychobabble is so on point.

  71. Jim Tierney says:

    So does that mean Mike is a watemellon?

  72. JT,

    Are you impaired? Am I typing too fast for you?

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