John Droz writes in with this:
A few months ago a widely-publicized article by Houston and Dean was published in the Journal of Coastal Research (and on your site), noting that although sea-level is rising; the tide gauge data does not show any increased rate of rise (acceleration) for the 20th and early 21st centuries. This was augmented by a recent paper authored by an Australian scientist as well (<<http://www.jcronline.org/doi/full/10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-10-00141.1>>).
In the most recent volume of the Journal of Coastal Research, there is a point/counterpoint on this study. It was started by an attack on this paper by Rahmstorf & Vermeer and followed by a response to this by Houston & Dean (below).
Discussion of: Houston, J.R. and Dean, R.G., 2011. Sea-Level Acceleration Based on U.S. Tide Gauges and Extensions of Previous Global-Gauge Analyses. Journal of Coastal Research, 27(3), 409–417
Stefan Rahmstorf† and Martin Vermeer‡ <<http://www.jcronline.org/doi/full/10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-11-00082.1>>
Here’s the rebuttal:
Reply to: Rahmstorf, S. and Vermeer, M., 2011. Discussion of: Houston, J.R. and Dean, R.G., 2011. Sea-Level Acceleration Based on U.S. Tide Gauges and Extensions of Previous Global-Gauge Analyses. Journal of Coastal Research, 27(3), 409–417
J. R. Houston† and R. G. Dean‡ <<http://www.jcronline.org/doi/full/10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-11A-00008.1>>
Rahmstorf and Vermeer (RV) argue that modeling sea level as a function of temperature using their semi-empirical approach as presented by Rahmstorf (2007) and Vermeer and Rahmstorf (2009) is superior to the standard approach of analyzing sea-level rise as a function of time used by Houston and Dean (2011). Their criticism applies not only to this paper, but also to the work of eminent sea-level experts such as Douglas, Holgate, Woodworth, and others who have used the same standard approach we use. In making this claim, RV present their Figure 1 as the key evidence supporting the efficacy of their model. Figure 1 purports to show good agreement between accelerations based on their modeling and accelerations based on the data of Church and White (2006). However, it is easily seen that the portion of Figure 1 where the agreement is “good” compares their modeling versus increasingly meaningless data, and they have been selective in showing only data that appear to match their modeling and not the data that strongly disagree.
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Houston and Dean (2011) considered only tide-gauge records with lengths greater than 60 years, noting that shorter record lengths are “corrupted” by decadal fluctuations. Douglas (1992) shows that as a result of decadal fluctuations, as record lengths become increasingly shorter than approximately 50–60 years, about half of tide-gauge records display increasingly large positive accelerations, while the other half displays increasingly large negative accelerations. These positive and negative accelerations are uncorrelated to accelerations based on record lengths greater than approximately 50–60 years. Note in Figure 1 that as the record length becomes shorter, the 2-sigma range becomes increasingly large so that for most of the right-hand side of Figure 1 it is not possible to know whether the accelerations are positive or negative, making comparisons increasingly meaningless.
In Figure 1, RV show only the data that agree with their model. On the x axis of Figure 1, record lengths are shorter than 60 years for starting years after around 1940. It happens that at around 1940 the acceleration shown is approximately zero. Thus, as seen in Figure 2, the record from 1940 to 2001 has a strong linear trend with decadal fluctuations but approximately no acceleration. If the record from 1940 to 2001 has zero acceleration, how is it then possible that all shorter records (starting years after 1940) shown in Figure 1 have positive accelerations that increase as record lengths shorten? It is not possible. Again, RV only plot the data as long as they agree with their model. If the plot is extended, e.g., to the starting year of 1985, the acceleration is −0.044 mm/y2, more than twice the range shown for negative accelerations in Figure 1. If the plot is extended further, the folly of analyzing records shorter than approximately 60 years becomes increasingly obvious. The acceleration for a starting year of 1995 is −0.51 mm/y2, about 25 times the range shown for negative accelerations in Figure 1. RV compare their model to data as long as there are positive accelerations and do not continue the plot when accelerations become negative, which must happen for the overall record from 1940 to 2001 to have an acceleration of approximately zero. Their rationale for stopping at a starting time of 1970 is that after 1970 “… short-term noise dominates the calculations and results oscillate strongly” (p. 789). But Douglas (1992) shows, e.g., that 30–40-year record lengths (starting times 1960 and 1970 in Figure 1) show positive and negative accelerations 10–20 times larger than accelerations determined from 80-year records. Yet RV criticize our analysis of 80-year records from 1930 to 2010 as being too short. The fact is that decadal fluctuations begin to dominate records shorter than about 60 years, and accelerations become increasingly meaningless for starting years in Figure 1 greater than about 1940. Moreover, positive accelerations peak some time after the starting time of 1970 and eventually plunge to very large negative values. In summary, RV compare their model results to meaningless data after the starting year of about 1940 and are selective in only showing data with positive accelerations after 1940.
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Church et al. (2004) correctly analyze the same data set (their own) that RV incorrectly analyze and conclude that “Decadal variability in sea level is observed but to date there is no detectable secular increase in the rate of sea level rise over the period 1950–2000” (p. 2624). This conclusion is evident from Figure 2 and in stark contrast to the claims of RV and the acceleration they show in Figure 1 for a starting year of 1950.
RV link sea-level rise with temperature using a simple linear relationship with two free variables of opposite signs that allow them to “fit” any smooth data set. However, they are curve fitting, not modeling physics, so the approach cannot be used to predict future sea level. Holgate et al. (2007) criticized RV’s assumption of a linear relationship between global mean surface temperature and the rate of global mean sea-level change and concluded, “We find no such linear relationship” (p. 1866b). Further they concluded, “… at the 50- to 100-year time scale, the linear relationship has little skill in predicting the observations not included in the original model formulation” (p. 1866b). A recent workshop of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2010) considered the semi-empirical approaches of Rahmstorf (2007), Vermeer and Rahmstorf (2009), and others and concluded, “No physically-based information is contained in such models …” (p. 2) and “The physical basis for the large estimates from these semi-empirical models is therefore currently lacking” (p. 2).
RV also present less fundamental criticisms of Houston and Dean (2010). For example, they note that data considered by Houston and Dean are biased to the northern hemisphere. This criticism would apply to any study of sea-level rise and is attributable to the lack of historical tide-gauge data in the southern hemisphere. In fact, it applies to the historical temperature that RV use in their analysis. However, we note that Watson (2011) published an analysis of sea level in Australia and obtained small decelerations very similar to those of our study.
RV argue that impoundment by dams decreased the rate of sea-level rise after around 1960. They say that our paper claims that groundwater mining would offset this impoundment, and they then argue that this mining is relatively small. They neglect to mention that groundwater mining is only one of the offsetting factors given in Houston and Dean. Houston and Dean (2011) state, “However, in the IPCC, Bindoff et al. (2007) note that the reservoir impoundment is largely offset by other anthropogenic activities that accelerated since 1930, such as groundwater extraction, shrinkage of large lakes, wetland loss, and deforestation” (p. 415). Houston and Dean further state that “Huntington (2008) showed ranges of the contribution of each term of the land–water interchange determined in several studies and concluded that the net effect of all the contributions was to increase the sea-level trend” (p. 415). This conclusion is in direct opposition to the claim of RV that impoundment by dams significantly decreased the rate of sea-level rise.
The important conclusion of our study is not that the data sets we analyze display small sea-level decelerations, but that accelerations, whether negative or positive (we reference studies that found small positive accelerations), are quite small. To reach the multimeter levels projected for 2100 by RV requires large positive accelerations that are one to two orders of magnitude greater than those yet observed in sea-level data.
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Confusing. It seems to boil down to the fact that models produce a greater sea level rise than observation.
Why is that not a surprise.
I’m fairly certain the obfuscate and confuse CACC group would argue that the accelerations are accelerating faster, then do some really complicated derivative math and lies their pants off.. but these findings aren’t really surprising or shocking, since, y’know, I didn’t believe them in the first place.
And that IS the point. Where is this large amount of land based water going to come from? Not Greenland, which is ablating at the edges, but growing in the middle. Not Antarctica, where apart from the small ice sheet melt in the Peninsula, the major ice sheets are stable and well below freezing.
Like I’ve always said, Sea Level is a local phenomenon. Whether Venice, Vanuatu or the Solomons. Come to think of it, isn’t the tide going out at Vanuatu?
What RV need is a see-level rise.
Dams and irrigation do not necessarily “hold back” waters from the ocean, unless you are talking a very small “ocean” like the Aral Sea.
Uzbekistan has used irrigation to become a world leader in the production of cotton, but as a consiquence the Aral Sea has dried up. This might seem like a proof that irrigation “holds back” water from the ocean, but think more deeply.
Roughly the same amount of water still flows in the tributary rivers. However, rather than reaching the Aral Sea, it is sucked up by cotton plants and then lost to atmosphere. It blows away downwind to other lands, is rained out, and finds its way downstream to the larger, worldwide ocean.
In other words, all the water that once was in the Aral Sea has been added to the larger, worldwide ocean.
Does this not suggest that, in this case at least, irrigation has caused sea levels in the larger, world-wide oceans to rise?
Larger image links appear not to be working …
You mean it’s not as bad as we thought?
Sorry the links to larger graphs don’t seem to work for me – IE9.
The links don’t work for me in Chrome either.
I’m struggling to understand figure 1. AFAICT, it doesn’t tell you anything about what the actual sea-level rise is in a particular year, just what the overall acceleration is between the given year and the present. But does each data point only include guages that start in that year, or does it include all gauges with data in that year?
Overall, it seems a bizarre dataset to have arguments over. It is so well-known that inferring a second derivative from measured data is prone to problems. Why not have your arguments over the actual measured data?
This is a technically detailed and impressive rebuttal. The antics of Rahmstorf and Vermeer show two things:
(1) the effect of the chosen time period on the observed SL accel/deccel, as clearly shown in the rebuttal, serves as important new evidence for the substantial effect of the approximately 60 year wavelength multidecadal oceanic oscillations on global climate and temperature; and
(2) that proponents of CAGW are increasingly forced into deceit and distortion of data to sustain their absurd catastrophist narrative.
Meanwhile in the real world, sea level rise has stopped.
More study is needed. 🙂
The multi meter sea level rise clearly comes from the need to retain funding! how about a graph plotting predicted sea level rise against potential tax payer funding?
James Reid says:
July 21, 2011 at 3:06 am
Sorry the links to larger graphs don’t seem to work for me – IE9.
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Strictly speaking, I don’t think they are html links although they were clearly intended to be links. Too many layers of abstraction/distraction apparently.
If you follow the three links in the text to the papers, then scan through the paper to the graph and click on its link to the graph, you will be able to look at the larger image. I know that works for figure 1.
The only modelling I enjoy looking is the stuff of high fashion and catwalks. the other kind is just, well, modelling.
I thought that the major point was that ‘RV excluded data that did not fit their preconceived views’.
This is Not a direct quote for the trolls here.
Aral sea has lost about 1000km³ amounting to about 3mm or about 1 years worth of current sea level rise.
The Caspian sea depression/basin is pretty interesting – if it was filled it would lower the global sea level by at least 30mm, and it is already a salty sea (about 1/3 of sea salinity)
If we were really worried about sea level rise we could pump seawater up into the middle of antartica or greenland at the rate of 30000m³/s – it would need nearly 1 TW of pumping power (costing a few hundred billion a year) but would actually work (unlike regulating CO2).
University of Colorado is also struggling to make the acceleration bigger:
http://ecotretas.blogspot.com/2011/07/more-hiding-decline.html
Fortunately, all the data is online, and this one more hiding the decline can be exposed.
Ecotretas
So they are accusing Rahmstorf and Vermeer of cherry-picking short time frames to get the data they want to show rapid and accelerating sea level rise. Hmmm… sounds familiar.
Caleb says: July 21, 2011 at 2:58 am
Dams and irrigation do not necessarily “hold back” waters from the ocean, unless you are talking a very small “ocean” like the Aral Sea.
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In other words, all the water that once was in the Aral Sea has been added to the larger, worldwide ocean.
Does this not suggest that, in this case at least, irrigation has caused sea levels in the larger, world-wide oceans to rise?
Using numbers from the UN on the amount of water used in irrigation, that amount of water would raise the sea level 2+mm/year. Of course, all of it may not get to the ocean, but with numbers so close, and assuming some rise from thermal expansion, there is about zero chance of significant melting of anything (glaciers, ice caps) going into the ocean to raise sea levels.
In physics the rate of change in acceleration is referred to as jerk and it is clear that since Algore has been involved in sea level rise there is a big jerk in the data. 😉
> Larger image links appear not to be working …
Busted HTML.
There are really big images at
http://www.jcronline.org/na101/home/literatum/publisher/pinnacle/journals/content/coas/2011/15515036-27.4/jcoastres-d-11a-00008.1/production/images/large/i1551-5036-27-4-788-f01.jpeg
http://www.jcronline.org/na101/home/literatum/publisher/pinnacle/journals/content/coas/2011/15515036-27.4/jcoastres-d-11a-00008.1/production/images/large/i1551-5036-27-4-788-f02.jpeg
but the better thing to do is go to http://www.jcronline.org/doi/full/10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-11A-00008.1 and click the “View larger version” links which run a javascript popup think that displays a reasonable resolution image that I can’t quite figure out the URL for with out more time.
John Marshall says:
July 21, 2011 at 2:10 am
Confusing. It seems to boil down to the fact that models produce a greater sea level rise than observation.
Why is that not a surprise.
To which models are you referring? Usually when people refer to ‘models’ they are talking about GCMs but those actually underestimate recent sea level rise by about 50%. The physics of melting glaciers and ice sheets is clearly not understood well enough to reproduce real sea level change in a physical model like a GCM.
This is why semi-empirical models, such as V&R2009, have appeared recently offering the alternative approach of basing future projections on past observations.
Rahmstorf is making sure his material is out (and presumably peer/pal reviewed) for the next IPCC report. That report will ignore the material published by other researchers and conclude “its worse than we thought”.
The recent et al and Mann paper on NC off shore islands will make a good backstop for the RV paper, the us “proving” his model.
We have seen this before.