July Snow in New Hampshire

Someone should take New Hampshire’s snowfall and rainfall data and sort it out like this:
http://www.robertb.darkhorizons.org/TempGr/WvPrecipSC.GIF
which is according to solar cycle length.
Then, we can see what is going on in New Hampshire, and what the future will be like with 2 long and shallow cycles in the forecast.

In the interest of balance. There is quite a bit of corn already tasseling in Northern Illinois. This will be the first I’ve ever seen corn tasseling by the fourth of July. Of course we all know that the age old gauge was “knee high by the fourth of July” so it is fair to say that this is part of a long term trend of improving corn growing conditions.

No doubt NH snow in July is proof that AGW IS occurring.

Yes, it’s amazing how our Sun effects this Earth…I looking at an early fall this year in the Mid-West! My wild “Monk” Lilies came on three weeks early this year. When ever they do this, fall is coming early. Normally they bloom this week, the week of the 4th of July. Already the last three nights we’ve had low’s in the upper 40’s already! Too soon for me.. 😉

Smokey “If corn is growing that fast, maybe it’s something in the air.”
Actually, what’s in the air is called progress – improved genetics (number one), improved chemicals, improved equipment, improved practices. Average corn yields are said to improve about 1 or 2 bushels per year, and the trend is accelerating.

Has anyone ever been in a cornfield at sundown when the wind was still and quiet? You can actually hear the corn ears grow, stretching the silk and husks. Its a wonderful sound of nature.

What was unusual here in central VA this year was (a) continuous snow cover from Dec 18 to Mar 5; (b) no killing freeze from Mar 1 on; (c) record hot June. Odd. I hope La Nina might moderate summer here: so far it’s been brutal, though obviously it’s been unusually cold elsewhere.

We have July 4th skiing, too!
http://co2insanity.com/2010/07/03/july-4th-skiing-but-its-only-weather/

Climate progress was making a big deal out of a little heat wave in D.C. last week.
A heat wave is not climate change. Record heat in the summer is not climate change.
Snow in the summer is rare, scarce and NOT a sign of warming.
How can Romm face himself on this?
They insist droughts and heat are permanent?
I also noted corn maturity while riding my mountain bike in the country this morning. Being a farmer, it is not unusual. The ground dry enough to plant let us plant early. It is raining today. We have plenty of moisture. I also don’t recall seeing corn tassels in June.

Stephen Brown – Yup, I’m in the south-west, just, and everything is definitely a month late this year. The cold killed off my autumn sown broad beans and the lot I planted this year are just producing. My runner beans are only half way up the poles although I did notice a chap nearby had his in flower so perhaps he started his off in the greenhouse very early. Asparagus was also a month late and I probably could have continued cropping for a bit longer. Spuds nowhere to be seen – plenty of green on top, b***** all beneath the soil. It’s interesting, though, the unpredictability of it all.

Mulberry trees 2 months late here in NW Calif. Cold killed 3 young trees, peach blossoms, and tomatoes think it’s fall (turning red already). The news from the S. Hemisphere says to expect another round of increasing cold winter.
And what is that silly Sun up there doing?

rbateman says:
July 3, 2010 at 10:51 am

Someone should take New Hampshire’s snowfall and rainfall data and sort it out like this:
http://www.robertb.darkhorizons.org/TempGr/WvPrecipSC.GIF
which is according to solar cycle length.
Then, we can see what is going on in New Hampshire, and what the future will be like with 2 long and shallow cycles in the forecast.

I suppose I could, though having grown up in the snow belt in northeastern Ohio I’m more interested in snow fall and snow depth. Especially the latter – if you sum the depths for every day in the snow season, you get “Snow Depth Days”, a handy figure to gauge how snowbound an area is.
The main thing I’ve learned is that the season-to-season and site-to-site differences are so big it would be tough to find any useful correlation.
I’d be reluctant to use rainfall data too – we get impacted by nor’easters (think broad tropical storm) and they often bring a wide range of rainfall to different areas.
Mark Twain was the first person to successfully describe New England weather, see http://wermenh.com/sdd/index.html and follw the link near the bottom.
“There is a sumptuous variety about the New England weather that compels the stranger’s admiration — and regret.” The “European” weather forecast model was predicting a high temperature in part of Massachusetts this coming Wednesday that would be above the all-time official high temp in the state. I think it’s backed off a bit, but it will be hot. NWS says 96°F, 10° below the all time record. A good day for the White Mountains – on a mountaintop.

Mount Washington, the Northeast’s highest peak at 6,288 feet, has recorded snow in every month.
And so it’s remarked upon here… why, exactly?
[Reply: Ask these news agencies the same question. Newsworthy enough for them, should be newsworthy enough to discuss here. ~ mod]

Yep! No warming here. Move along!

This June, I recall hearing recent forecasts on KHB60 Puget Sound area weather radio that the snow level in the mountains of Washington State would be around 6,000 feet.

That is all local weather – not related to climate at all – as the record warm winter for Canada. It’s still that way in the north east where everything is mostly 2-3 weeks in advance. Last week was relatively cold if i compare that to the previous 2 months (april and may), but other than that, it’s been a very mild spring and warm summer start – with the exception of the last few days.
Today everything went back to normal with temps high in the 80s – if not in the 90s.
So, i don’t make much of that event of snow on top of 6000+ feet of elevation. And i don’t make much of that single warm winter – as i’m quite sure it’ll be back way too soon. Still on the long run, it’s been awhile since we’ve had a -40 in our area – the last one i remember was early in the 90s. But it was a common thing prior than that. Things are changing.

Timberati says:
July 3, 2010 at 12:24 pm
No doubt NH snow in July is proof that AGW IS occurring.
Timberati,
You neglected to employ the superlative adjective ‘Catastrophic’ when mentioning ‘AGW.’
You see? In order to freak people out, you’ve GOT to employ the most scary superlatives you might muster in order to have effect!
Now remember this: CAGW = Catastrophic Al Gore Wretchedness.
It’s ‘wretchedness’ because when he gets done with us, we’ll be living wretched lives.

Bruce Cobb says:
July 3, 2010 at 1:52 pm
No doubt though, in the not-too- distant future, snow on top of Mt. Washington will become “a very rare and exciting event”. Then, they will have to call the Presidentials the “Gray Mountains”. They will have to erect barriers to keep the hordes below from overrunning it in their desperate attempts to escape the boiling heat in the valleys.
Dibs on the movie rights.
“No doubt” you say?
Well, hey, get a load of this:
http://butnowyouknow.wordpress.com/those-who-fail-to-learn-from-history/climate-change-timeline/
Or this:
http://newsbusters.org/node/11640
How about that, eh?
How does it feel to be tossed into a washing machine, stuck on the wash cycle?
You know: Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth …
In virtually every decade of modern man, some jerk comes along and plays you people for the fools you are, and you buy it, hook, line, and sinker.

“You do realize that when there are ~20 feet of snow on the ground at 8000′ that it does take a while to melt?”
Gee Rattus…no kidding? Such a genius to figure that one out you are.

rbateman says:
July 3, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Mulberry trees 2 months late here in NW Calif. Cold killed 3 young trees, peach blossoms, and tomatoes think it’s fall (turning red already). The news from the S. Hemisphere says to expect another round of increasing cold winter.
And what is that silly Sun up there doing?
And with all of the weather data pouring in, why the idiots in D.C. STILL want to shove their carbon-come slavery down our throats.
You’d think that by this time they’d have come to their senses. But no, they’ve been read the riot act by the wholly reluctant GOD-KING in the White House, and are determined to kill us off with taxes before we all die of starvation first.
Pull the teats on the cash cows just as hard as one can, before they croak.

Darn cold in Sydney right now
This is several days old and the weather has not warmed up at all.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/30/2941227.htm
But ABC weather specialist Graham Creed says people’s complaints are justified.
“It’s definitely quite unusual to see such widespread cold weather in June, it would be more typical in July and August,” he said.
“So people are complaining about the cold for a good reason.”
Mr Creed says most areas across the south-east are experiencing temperatures well below average.
“Last weekend a cool change moved through and that introduced some significantly colder air across most of south-east Australia,” he said.
“Quickly in behind that we had a high pressure ridge move through, producing clear skies during both the day and the night, but it’s also helping to trap that cold air in.
“The clear skies mean we are losing what little daytime heating there is and overnight temperatures are dropping into the minuses through many of those states, producing widespread frosts.
“On top of that we’ve got quite a breeze in certain areas and the air is very dry so that’s producing very low wind chill, so not only is the sun not providing much warmth, you’ve also got the assistance of the wind making it feel colder than it actually is.”
He says Queensland is in for a particularly rough few days, as widespread rainfall will see the conditions change from cold and sunny to cold, cloudy and wet.
Yesterday, an icy blast through Adelaide brought enough rain to supply the city for a month, with a hail storm capping off the exceptionally wintry day.
Yesterday was also the coldest day in Melbourne in nearly two years, with the city not reaching its maximum temperature of 10.8 degrees Celsius until 7:55pm (AEST).
If the temperature in Melbourne fails to hit its forecast maximum today, it will be the first time in 14 years the city has recorded three consecutive days of temperatures below 12 degrees.
Last night Brisbane was coldest at 9:00pm (AEST), when the mercury dropped to below 8 degrees, but experts say it will be even cooler tonight.
Sydney recorded its coldest June morning today since 1949, with temperatures diving to 4.3 degrees just before 6:00am (AEST).

Its Déjà vu… I thought so… I could kind of remember the scary news about Iceland volcanoes toward the end of the 23-24 solar minimum. Katla didn’t blow then… I’m not saying it won’t now but, anyway. Refreshed my memory of some of the other 1998-1999 eruptions too! We had an El Nino switch to a La Nina then too, and much the same weather patterns we have now. A bit more intense this time though.
Global Volcanism Program | Eyjafjallajökull | Summary
http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/volcano.cfm?vnum=1702-02=
An intrusion beneath the south flank from July-December 1999 was accompanied by increased seismic activity and was constrained by tilt measurements, GPS-geodesy and InSAR.
http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/find_eruptions.cfm
If the Sun is going to get going at all, the time to do it is within the next six months. We may be in for a number of VEI 3-4 volcano eruptions between now and through 2011 if history repeats. Heaven forbid those get worse like the weather.

Washington Governor requests federal farm disaster assistance. Reason: Crop failures due to abnormally cold, wet weather.
http://www.governor.wa.gov/news/news-view.asp?pressRelease=1528&newsType=1

By the way, there is May and June skiing just below the summit of Mt. Washington, in the Tuckerman Ravine, almost every year without fail, and this has been ongoing for at least 80 or 90 years (since the 1920’s). No CAGW needed.
http://timefortuckerman.com/
And here is a live webcam of Mt Washington, with Tuckerman Ravine below and to the left, and Huntington Ravine below and to the right.
http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/cam/ravines/
The snow is gone by now but there are lots of photos posted on the web of snowfields lingering in the ravines right into late June.

Zorro says:
July 4, 2010 at 12:26 am
Is there a message here? You’re describing weather, so what’s new. I believe that not so long ago, there was a white X-mas in the Aussie Alps. The weather is getting more chaotic in terms of extreme events; heat, cold, rain, wind, cyclones, thunderstorms etc.
But the world is cooling, is it? What about trend, could it be less warming? A bit like answering the question How are you? with… Not too bad. What does it mean? Is it bad but it could be worse? Probably not, what people mean is that things are ok but could be better. On the other hand, the tone of voice and/or inflection may indicate that things are in fact quite good. Warming, cooling or warming less than previously? That is the question(s).

Caleb says:
July 4, 2010 at 4:48 am

While looking at weather records I think I may have found a blunder in the Concord, New Hampshire records. The record low for June 30 in Concord was said to be 32 in 2005, but when I looked at the record for June 30, 2005 in Concord, New Hampshire, it said the high was 84 and the low was 61. Somebody goofed somewhere, unless it is just me.

One July 5th several years ago my father drove from Plymouth NH to Cambridge MA very early in the morning. The dew point was very low and conditions were ideal for radiational cooling. He noticed one low spot along I 93 where the grass looked lighter than all the rest and suspected it was frost.
However, the Concord ASOS wouldn’t see an effect like that, though it does get some decent radiational cooling. At my home less than 10 miles away I got:

mysql> select hi_temp, hi_temp_time, lo_temp, lo_temp_time from daily where dt='2005-6-30';
+---------+--------------+---------+--------------+
| hi_temp | hi_temp_time | lo_temp | lo_temp_time |
+---------+--------------+---------+--------------+
|    84.5 | 16:00:00     |    62.3 | 23:50:00     |
+---------+--------------+---------+--------------+

The data is graphed at
http://c-24-91-225-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/cgi-bin/wx_fetch?table=raw&year=2005&month=6&day=28&len=7&vars=out_temp&vars=dew_pt
(if you want to poke around, start at http://wermenh.com/wx/query.html )
So, the 32 is completely unbelievable and completely bogus. Is that data from the NWS at Gray ME or the NCDC? It would be an interesting project to try to get that fixed and document the effort.

What I meant was I could remember the scary news about Iceland volcanoes toward the end of the 22-23 solar minimum, not the 23-24. Katla didn’t blow then…
I reposted it with the correction but I guess the moderator didn’t catch it, my oops.

DirkH says:
July 4, 2010 at 9:04 am
“[…]
I think AGW science has fallen prey to this built-in perception bias.”
One might even say: A positive feedback is something very unlikely. It usually doesn’t happen. The professional slush fund climatologists have been spreading their tipping point writings so often that we’re all used to it now. In fact, most of the time nature has other things to do than crafting self-amplifying phenomena.

DirkH says:
“[…] Continuing this train of thought: A positive feedback runs its course, consumes some accumulated potential in the process and is over quickly.”
from here, we can ask the question: What is the potential that the positive feedback posited by the AGW crowd is expected to exploit? Well, as the suggested mechanism is water vapour feedback, the potential exploited can only be the heat differential between air near the surface and surface waters, leading to a higher water vapour carrying capacity of the air and increased evaporation.
Needless to say, this potential must be used up in the process. Anybody already done the numbers or experiments? We should be able to observe the phenomenon on any hot day, anywhere except in very arid places.

Averages when the differences are large have little to no meaning. Sometimes it is cold, sometimes it’s hot. Some people like it, others not.
Sometimes the temperature is highly variable over longer periods, sometimes not so. Neither makes any difference over the long haul.
The real meaning comes when outliers of weather and temperature happen at a time which causes widespread failure of crops.
A difference in temperature at the high end has few if any bad consequences. When there is widespread failure of crops is when the real hurt happens, and can be caused by too much rainfall, too little rainfall, much later than “usual” killing frosts in the spring or much earlier than “usual” killing frosts in autumn.
This “the weather is getting more violent, climate is changing” must be from people who haven’t read much history. Try the Great Drought (which is what it was called in 1930), throughout Midwestern states in the 1930s or the torrential rainfall in CA in the winter of 1862. http://www.redlandsfortnightly.org/papers/Taylor06.htm
A repeat of either would be a huge catastrophe for the US, however greater our present technology.
“Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get.” ~ Mark Twain
Absurdities do occur in history when “convential” scientists get it completely wrong. As far as I am concerned, this is one of those times which will have future historians and scientists shaking their heads in wonderment.

Here in Philly, June was pretty warm and next week may top 100 a few days in a row. I remember similar weather in 1987 but I’m just waiting for the proclamations of global warming. Snow in July in NH means nothing, but a
typical heat streak in Philly will be proof of AGW.

Douglas DC says:
July 3, 2010 at 1:10 pm

Timberati- I had a warmist I know tell me exactly that. He packs his “Inconvenient
Truth” next to his Bible..
I wish I was joking…

He has a Bible?

Regg says:
July 3, 2010 at 7:00 pm
To Jimbo, most of the thing you said – have been told by people not believing in AGW. They say that AGW proponents are saying that, but i challenge you to find who really said that, and you’ll be surprised that it is coming from some of the most influent people – yet no scientist – in the anti-agw group.

Regg, I was talking about a ‘hypothetical’ ice age and my speculated Warmist responses. We are not at an ice age yet, it’s about the possible future, so I cannot possibly meet your challenge. Sorry! ;o(

R. de Haan says:
July 4, 2010 at 3:25 am
Washington Governor requests federal farm disaster assistance. Reason: Crop failures due to abnormally cold, wet weather.
http://www.governor.wa.gov/news/news-view.asp?pressRelease=1528&newsType=1
Meanwhile, Christine is giving Patty and Maria pats on their respective butts to go pass that ‘Cap and Trade’ legislation.
Talk about duplicitous …
Christine is salivating all over herself for a possible Federal appointment by the ‘Big ‘O.”

addendum to my above post: What’s wrong with the idea that Climate Science should have started at the beginning?

Actually scratch that, looks like it was broken in 1996, Barrow Island, Australia, having trouble finding a good citation, but the claim is that the record is now 253mph.

good