@ur momisugly NIk, @ur momisugly 9.58 could it not read “almost no pressure is “put” on the left rather than “out”? @ur momisugly Sigint@ur momisugly 8.11, “the Obama Party Way” , ie OPW, is more like the OPM way (ie other people money) way!
Bloke down the pub
August 9, 2014 1:57 am
Anthony, I think you mean re-education, unless by reducation you mean instruction in how to be a good communist.
Lank is flannergasted
August 9, 2014 2:20 am
‘Life can be cruel without fossil fuel’
David
August 9, 2014 2:58 am
HIs basic premise is a lie, there is no out of the ordinary extreme weather occurring because of what has been happening with the climate for the past 20, 50, 100 years. In fact for the US if anything the weather has been getting milder with less hurricanes, less tornadoes, less wild fires, etc. This guy is a member of the flat earth society and the people he calls deniers are like those insisting the earth is round. MSNBC is part of the Global Warming Religion and just like the bigots that tried to forced people in the middle ages to believe the earth was flat.
Peter Miller
August 9, 2014 3:00 am
Ask any earth scientist – caveat: not working for government, nor an NGO – and try and find a climate alarmist. They are there, but they are few and far between. However, there are probably quite a few, fresh out of university, who have not yet got into the habit of thinking for themselves.
I think this oaf’s question was wrong, but it is simply corrected by replacing the word ‘Republican’ with ‘Democrat’.
Ralph Kramden
August 9, 2014 4:41 am
Science based on anecdotal data is bad science and all scientists know that.
TBear
August 9, 2014 4:47 am
While Isam murders it’s way to world domination, we are still listening to this crap. Unbelievable.
Geddy
August 9, 2014 5:06 am
[Nah . . we’re better than that aren’t we? . . mod]
The rhetorical technique is brilliant.
The question proposes that only Republicans are deniers, that Democrats are not deniers, that only Republicans need “re-education,” that Democrats do not need “re-education,” that Republicans are dangerous, the Democrats are not dangerous and so on.
This is exactly they type of technique used by despots, tyrants and political mass-murderers throughout the centuries.
If anyone was watching it would be scary.
Alx
August 9, 2014 5:54 am
Ed is obviously ignorant. What makes him ugly is his committment to spreading and enforcing ignorance.
Don Prince, I’m glad there is at least one other Earth Science teacher out there who is able to look objectively at this topic. Keep up the great work.
fhsiv
August 9, 2014 6:49 am
The pronlem is that the “basic earth science course” has become the equivalent of a REDucation camp.
Had a discussion with a recent university grad about ocean acidification and sea level rise. All she could say was “that’s not what my professor said”.
Grant
August 9, 2014 7:00 am
Well Ed should immediately debate Dr. Spencer, Anthony, Lord Moncton, Willis or Dr. Lindzen (he can choose) as a start to show the world how it’s done.
Gary says:
August 8, 2014 at 6:14 pm
I wonder if Mr. Ed has taken [an] Earth Science course.
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Wonder if he could understand it.
David L. Hagen
August 9, 2014 8:07 am
Welcome to the Green Gulag
It uses the same principles as applied in the Soviet Gulag
About 14 million people were in the Gulag labor camps from 1929 to 1953. A further 6–7 million were deported and exiled to remote areas of the USSR, and 4–5 million passed through labor colonies. . . . the actual Gulag death toll was somewhat higher, amounting to 1,258,537 in 1934-53, or 1.6 million deaths during the whole period from 1929 to 1953. Some estimates for total number deaths in the Gulag go beyond 10 million. . . .About half of political prisoners in the Gulag camps were imprisoned without trial;
Estimates on the number of RTL detainees on any given year ranges from 190,000 to two million.
Dr. George Kingman
August 9, 2014 9:16 am
The sound of one alcohol soaked brain cell. It is sad that he is the one who needs enlightening.
stan stendera
August 9, 2014 9:55 am
Mea Culpa! I was mistaken in my assertion that Debbie Wasserman Shultz was married to Ed Shultz. I read it somewhere, probably on Townhall or PJ Media, that such was the case. It just makes such perfect sense that those two loudmouths would be spouses that I fell for it. That she’s married to a banker makes one wonder if her demeanor in private life is very different then her public persona. It also makes one wonder about the safety of any monies you have in his bank.
I just assumed that no one with any sense, from her public ramblings, would be able to be and stay married to her other then a left wing idiot. In case you can’t tell, I don’t like or respect DWS.
Doug
August 9, 2014 10:05 am
I taught basic earth science. I doubt he could pass my course, but if he took it, he would emerge more skeptical.
Ursa Felidae
August 9, 2014 10:38 am
I like what Mark Levin said about the hosts at MSLSD: “a conga line of freaks”
sadbutmadlad
August 9, 2014 10:43 am
He’s entitled to his opinion, just like we are entitled with our opinions. The problem is that according to him, not having opinions that match his is bad and grounds for discrimination. No it isn’t. It’s just having a different opinion.
Ed Zuiderwijk
August 9, 2014 11:00 am
Take it from this Ed: (forced) “re-education” is the resort of the fascist scoundrels of the left and right.
george e. smith
August 9, 2014 11:55 am
“””””…..
Chris Marlowe says:
August 9, 2014 at 12:44 am
News for this guy. In 2005 I completed an M.S. degree at an American university with a GPA of 4.0 .
I was a climate lukewarmer then but am now a full-fledged skeptic. I am not skeptical about the physics, specifically the role of CO2, H2O vapor and other GHGs. …..”””””
“””””…..Inspection of the Black-Body spectra for the Sun (6000K) and the Earth (250K) shows why methane (CH4) is seldom mentioned in regard to CHG. You can see that CH4 lies on the long right tail of the spectrum for the Sun and also on the long left end of the tail of the spectrum for the Earth. Methane is a GHG but its impact is small not merely because of its scarcity but also because of the location along the Black-Body spectra of Sun and Earth of its absorption and emission windows, indicated by the ordinate (height on Y axis of the graph. …..”””””
Chris, not being too critical, but I would have given you a GPA of 4.5, IF you had examined those “black body” spectra more closely.
You are correct that the CO2 bands do lie on the long right (long wavelength) end of the solar spectrum.
But a BB spectrum has NO long left end (short wavelength) tail, including that of the earth.
ALL physicists should know at their fingertips that the Planck Black Body spectrum, has almost exactly 25.0% of the total energy at wavelengths shorter than the peak wavelength, which is about 10.1 microns for earth’s 288 K near BB spectrum, and ONLY 1% at wavelengths below one half of the peak wavelength (5.05 microns for the earth.
There is no long tail at the short wavelength end of the BB spectrum; it is a steep crash dive.
By comparison, the 1% of total energy, on the long wavelength end, is at eight times the peak wavelength (81 microns for earth).
So even the 4 micron asymmetrical stretch mode band of CO2, is looking at way less than 1% of earth’s LWIR radiation spectrum.
At one tenth of the peak wavelength (1.01 microns for earth), the BB spectrum is down by 4-5 orders of magnitude, from the peak at 10.1 microns. (I don’t have the graph handy)
People should not be talking about the black body spectrum, unless they have at least some passing acquaintance with its shape (in numbers).
Otherwise, I liked your post.
g
Ugly is the correct word for almost everything that comes out of Ed,s mouth.
Brian H
August 9, 2014 12:57 pm
William Mason says:
August 8, 2014 at 1:08 pm
Their true colors are showing. I believe re-education camps were something the Soviet Union used to deal with anyone not towing the party line. It’s scary where things are these days.
toeing the Party Line
You can be sure he has specific content and emphasis in mind when preparing the course; of course, he undoubtedly has a very special definition of “Earth Science”.
@ur momisugly NIk, @ur momisugly 9.58 could it not read “almost no pressure is “put” on the left rather than “out”?
@ur momisugly Sigint@ur momisugly 8.11, “the Obama Party Way” , ie OPW, is more like the OPM way (ie other people money) way!
Anthony, I think you mean re-education, unless by reducation you mean instruction in how to be a good communist.
‘Life can be cruel without fossil fuel’
HIs basic premise is a lie, there is no out of the ordinary extreme weather occurring because of what has been happening with the climate for the past 20, 50, 100 years. In fact for the US if anything the weather has been getting milder with less hurricanes, less tornadoes, less wild fires, etc. This guy is a member of the flat earth society and the people he calls deniers are like those insisting the earth is round. MSNBC is part of the Global Warming Religion and just like the bigots that tried to forced people in the middle ages to believe the earth was flat.
Ask any earth scientist – caveat: not working for government, nor an NGO – and try and find a climate alarmist. They are there, but they are few and far between. However, there are probably quite a few, fresh out of university, who have not yet got into the habit of thinking for themselves.
I think this oaf’s question was wrong, but it is simply corrected by replacing the word ‘Republican’ with ‘Democrat’.
Science based on anecdotal data is bad science and all scientists know that.
While Isam murders it’s way to world domination, we are still listening to this crap. Unbelievable.
[Nah . . we’re better than that aren’t we? . . mod]
Remember the study that showed Republicans/deniers had a better grasp of science than the AGW folks?
The rhetorical technique is brilliant.
The question proposes that only Republicans are deniers, that Democrats are not deniers, that only Republicans need “re-education,” that Democrats do not need “re-education,” that Republicans are dangerous, the Democrats are not dangerous and so on.
This is exactly they type of technique used by despots, tyrants and political mass-murderers throughout the centuries.
If anyone was watching it would be scary.
Ed is obviously ignorant. What makes him ugly is his committment to spreading and enforcing ignorance.
Don Prince, I’m glad there is at least one other Earth Science teacher out there who is able to look objectively at this topic. Keep up the great work.
The pronlem is that the “basic earth science course” has become the equivalent of a REDucation camp.
Had a discussion with a recent university grad about ocean acidification and sea level rise. All she could say was “that’s not what my professor said”.
Well Ed should immediately debate Dr. Spencer, Anthony, Lord Moncton, Willis or Dr. Lindzen (he can choose) as a start to show the world how it’s done.
Gary says:
August 8, 2014 at 6:14 pm
I wonder if Mr. Ed has taken [an] Earth Science course.
================================================
Wonder if he could understand it.
Welcome to the Green Gulag
It uses the same principles as applied in the Soviet Gulag
It also applies the methods used in China: “Reeducation through Labor”
The sound of one alcohol soaked brain cell. It is sad that he is the one who needs enlightening.
Mea Culpa! I was mistaken in my assertion that Debbie Wasserman Shultz was married to Ed Shultz. I read it somewhere, probably on Townhall or PJ Media, that such was the case. It just makes such perfect sense that those two loudmouths would be spouses that I fell for it. That she’s married to a banker makes one wonder if her demeanor in private life is very different then her public persona. It also makes one wonder about the safety of any monies you have in his bank.
I just assumed that no one with any sense, from her public ramblings, would be able to be and stay married to her other then a left wing idiot. In case you can’t tell, I don’t like or respect DWS.
I taught basic earth science. I doubt he could pass my course, but if he took it, he would emerge more skeptical.
I like what Mark Levin said about the hosts at MSLSD: “a conga line of freaks”
He’s entitled to his opinion, just like we are entitled with our opinions. The problem is that according to him, not having opinions that match his is bad and grounds for discrimination. No it isn’t. It’s just having a different opinion.
Take it from this Ed: (forced) “re-education” is the resort of the fascist scoundrels of the left and right.
“””””…..
Chris Marlowe says:
August 9, 2014 at 12:44 am
News for this guy. In 2005 I completed an M.S. degree at an American university with a GPA of 4.0 .
I was a climate lukewarmer then but am now a full-fledged skeptic. I am not skeptical about the physics, specifically the role of CO2, H2O vapor and other GHGs. …..”””””
“””””…..Inspection of the Black-Body spectra for the Sun (6000K) and the Earth (250K) shows why methane (CH4) is seldom mentioned in regard to CHG. You can see that CH4 lies on the long right tail of the spectrum for the Sun and also on the long left end of the tail of the spectrum for the Earth. Methane is a GHG but its impact is small not merely because of its scarcity but also because of the location along the Black-Body spectra of Sun and Earth of its absorption and emission windows, indicated by the ordinate (height on Y axis of the graph. …..”””””
Chris, not being too critical, but I would have given you a GPA of 4.5, IF you had examined those “black body” spectra more closely.
You are correct that the CO2 bands do lie on the long right (long wavelength) end of the solar spectrum.
But a BB spectrum has NO long left end (short wavelength) tail, including that of the earth.
ALL physicists should know at their fingertips that the Planck Black Body spectrum, has almost exactly 25.0% of the total energy at wavelengths shorter than the peak wavelength, which is about 10.1 microns for earth’s 288 K near BB spectrum, and ONLY 1% at wavelengths below one half of the peak wavelength (5.05 microns for the earth.
There is no long tail at the short wavelength end of the BB spectrum; it is a steep crash dive.
By comparison, the 1% of total energy, on the long wavelength end, is at eight times the peak wavelength (81 microns for earth).
So even the 4 micron asymmetrical stretch mode band of CO2, is looking at way less than 1% of earth’s LWIR radiation spectrum.
At one tenth of the peak wavelength (1.01 microns for earth), the BB spectrum is down by 4-5 orders of magnitude, from the peak at 10.1 microns. (I don’t have the graph handy)
People should not be talking about the black body spectrum, unless they have at least some passing acquaintance with its shape (in numbers).
Otherwise, I liked your post.
g
Ugly is the correct word for almost everything that comes out of Ed,s mouth.
William Mason says:
August 8, 2014 at 1:08 pm
Their true colors are showing. I believe re-education camps were something the Soviet Union used to deal with anyone not towing the party line. It’s scary where things are these days.
toeing the Party Line
You can be sure he has specific content and emphasis in mind when preparing the course; of course, he undoubtedly has a very special definition of “Earth Science”.